5 philosophers on anger - Delaney Thull
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- Explore different philosophers’ ideas about anger and dig into their theories on how we should handle this complicated emotion.
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Anger is a complicated emotion. It can feel reasonable and righteous or impulsive and uncontrollable. Anger can be an important part of letting us know when something immoral is happening, but finding the right response to those psychological alarm bells can be tricky. So, is it ever right to be angry? And if so, when? Delaney Thull takes a philosophical look at this powerful emotion.
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We should ask Kratos
True facts
Kratos speaks in Caps Lock
I'm not familiar with this ancient Greek philosopher
@@akanshsrivastav8269 He's not. He's a character from the God of War games. He's significant because of his complex character development, and the fact that he used to always shout and brutally slaughter his enemies
You just cracked the 4th wall of jokes . I just laughed real hard .
Anger is something everyone should release during the right moment. Controlling anger isn't bottling it up, it's using it correctly.
How do you know it's the right moment?
@@user-bh7vg8gd4q Maybe when directing your anger to something productive such as boxing or planning your revenge?
@@CCS-RRSR-SMrevenge itself is debatable.
@@shubhamtariyal439 yes, but if you just tolerate the mistreatment, you would just continue to get the short end of the stick. Revenge is, in fact, necessary depending on the situation
@@CCS-RRSR-SMExactly. Some actors of bad deeds do not understand other feedback.
Every emotion serves a purpose, and anger, when channeled constructively, can be a powerful force for positive change. It’s crucial to recognize its role in addressing injustices, rather than letting it lead to harmful actions towards others or objects..!
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Every emotion is there for a reason. And anger has its own place. Getting angry over something unjust, unfair or witnessing a wrong doing and then doing something to address the issue would be anger propelling you to do what was needed to. On the hand hurting people or animals or smashing objects when angry 😐😐
Like Argentinian deputies increasing their own salary while retired people suffer because their wage is pretty low 🫠
The ability to act against what one sees an unjust can be accomplished without anger. The utility of anger is that it can unlock inner strength at the cost of judgement and inhibition.
Many people are jokers. They know how to hurt others without getting angry.
Oh, ok. Good to know it's the anger that makes hurting people, animals, or damaging property bad. So, remember, feel nothing as you drive that bus of 3rd graders after pet show and tell day off a cliff. It's what the stoics would want.
Firstly. Yeah Anger is natural but that doesn mean it can be justify. Secondly you can act without Anger and it is more productive than with Anger. Because Anger can very easily become hatred.
According to Bhagavad Gita, anger towards social injustice is morally right. But anger hurled towards others due to egotistical reasons is unethical.
I had a guy give me a free copy one time. Then he demanded 20$ for it. I refused but he wouldn't take it back. Didn't exactly start me off on the right foot with that theology. Taoism teaches balance and going with the flow, I prefer that.
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Anger is a double-edged sword to be blunt. . . The virtue to counter; it is patience!
Even the blunt side of a sword can have the desired effect.
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PhD psychologist Marshall Rosenberg, creator of non-violent communication, teaches that anger's an emotion triggered by judgment. It's like a desire to punish for that we've judged wrong. In his work, that's always bad, since we're not to judge, but seek empathy and communicate our needs so that the person who's making us angry can have the opportunity to care for us, and grow in the process.
As a clinical psychologist myself I don't know yet if I agree fully with him, but I do know that, in my experience, my anger is frequently tied to judgments I make and, being so, shows me I've been judging a person or situation by my needs lens, not empathetically...
Just adding to the video...
Great work as always, TED.
Lol sure. Now go work in RT/PMIC or a US prison. The odd hypothetical dalliances of psychology are so cute, until tested.
I categorize Anger differently. I would not say its a desire to punish, but a desire to change. If there is something wrong and the locus of control is outside then we get angry. And thats ok. If the locus of control is inside we get frustrated. Also ok.
@Rythmi, nice perspective! Thanks for adding it.
Lol sure. Now go work in RT/PMIC or a US prison. The odd hypothetical dalliances of psychology are so cute, until tested.
Fascinating how this comment keeps getting censored. Anyway, Lol sure. Now go work in RT/PMIC or a US prison. The odd hypothetical dalliances of psychology are so cute, until tested.
When you know absolutely well that anger won't change anything about the situation but you are helpless.
Thats still doesn mean thats the right thing to do. And its justify
bottling up anger is not good for your mental health either, you do sometimes need to get it out of your system. Saying anger is always bad is just a futile attempt to quell down union and protest caused by incompetent leaders
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Anger can always be channeled into something greater than just rage or baseless violence. We need to practice self control and live by tenets we can feel proud of standing on. Avoiding or trying to ignore an emotion only subsides the problem for it to manifest in ways we wouldn’t want or couldn’t control. You must confront all your emotions to live freely. Anger will control you if you do not learn to control it.
It's a case by case issue that one must learn to master and know how to handle ❤
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My therapy experience is that all emotions are justified for all reasons-emotions are not moral entities. Actions can be moral or immoral, and actions can certainly be caused by emotions, but the emotions themselves are just descriptors of an internal state. It would be like asking if having the hiccups is ever justified.
Moral of the story: Anger is necessary but our goal should be that we control our anger and not vice-versa.
Very insightful video, Ted-Ed. This brings to mind a piece of wisdom spoken by the great stoic Epictetus; "Any person capable of angering you becomes your master;
he can anger you only when you permit yourself to be disturbed by him."
I commented this on other video in this channel but i'd like to say one more time~ knowing how to control your emotion is crucial in life, and i'd like to say that only experience is the answer~
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It looks gorgeous!
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I think the Dalai Lama once said anger can be compassionate, and I would say that kind of anger would be born out of injustice.
The philosopher Marshall Rosenberg, however, believed anger is a signal you don't understand what your needs are.
Shantideva, likely, was referring to a specific type of anger born from arrogance, as Buddhists personified anger and syncretzed it with the asuras from vedic traditions.
There is even a Ted talk about how anger can be like gasoline, dangerous when sprayed everywhere but powerful in an engine.
All this is to say there seems to be different kinds of anger: anger born from arrogance, anger born from injustice, and anger born from ignorance of ones needs. Of these three, it seems like anger born from injustice is morally good. Sometimes it can be the most compassionate response. It can help us keep fighting for justice. It's very hard to be angry and tired at the same time. However, we can see how it can quickly devolve into immoral types of anger.
Very good point here.
Justified: Having or shown to have a just, right, OR reasonable basis.
Anger is justified whenever it is reasonable, according to Merriam-Webster
Unfortunately anger clouds reason
@@icarusnote According to Yoda and the book of Romans:
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering, suffering produces endurance, endurance produces character, character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us.
I have serious bipolar and anger / rage is a part of my day-to-day life. Sometimes anger is something you need professional help for and medication and therapy are the only answers. Philosophies like stoicism and taoism help but are not a solution on their own. If you feel like the anger you experience may be abnormal, I highly recommend seeking out your local mental health services. A lot of them work on a sliding scale based on income. Good luck to everyone out there. ✌
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I do like the Confucian notion of anger. Righteousness is a moral emotion that arise from anger, while the severity of the anger might be different, the emotional impetus to act righteous is there. One feel anger when people act contrary to propriety, and the anger is thus justified in that it tries to fix what is in essence a break in relation to restore propriety. In other word anger become righteous when it is aimed at restoring relation and propriety. Even if we may fail to act in accordance with righteousness, the seed is at least there. But we can be sure to act in accordance with what is righteous by following our nature or propriety. Nature and propriety being linked, but the question is what makes acts righteous. Is it the clan or local community that determines what is right, or is it universal based on our nature?
For example for Mencius to act in accordance to ones nature is to be virtuous, because our nature is good, meaning it has the sprouts of virtues like humanness and righteousness. Emotions and feelings being manifestations of such virtues, like propriety which arise out of human nature.
Xunzi on the other hand found found that we can only be virtuous by acting in accordance with propriety, which develops in the local community over generations.
It’s not about morality. It’s about cause and effect, along with the choices you make throughout the process.
Be angry sometimes only
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Truth is the only time anger is justified is when being antagonized
I was born with the ability to control my anger, I dont know if this is common or something to do with any known disorders but yeah it has been pretty useful so far🙂
I saw the title and thought: Literally ANY time.
If you feel angry at anything at all that is perfectly okay. The real question is, when is violence justified?
"Illegally polluting water supply..." I laughed way too hard at this line :D
How did we end up like this? :(
I literally thought the same thing.
The neighbours blasting music is too relatable
When someone urinates in your cereal.
who pissed in my cereal?
i live alone.
Can't relate but I would definitely be *pissed* if anyone urinated in my cereal.
😡
I liked the video even before fully watching it, which is the opposite thing to do on a video that asks us to think more, rather than being swayed by our feelings. But it is Ted Ed and I was acting out of love, not anger. :P
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4 min video is not enough for a topic as important as this
Believe in letting go and miracles would happen. But sometimes you need to let it out or it will be pushy on yourselves and others around you. If it is not discussed with root cause so talking with calmed mindset and normal pitch is necessarily essential manytimes
I've learned we as human beings, that anger is a part of what it is to being human.. Humans get angry and its ok to be or get angry.. It's what you do with that anger that will get you into trouble! Yelling, screaming and bottling anger up ones anger only makes it more difficult to function and interact with each other. Hope the info helps!😃
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plot twist
Love these ethics videos, keep them coming
love the animation style!
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Anger is justified when I'm the one doing it
_What I happened to post minutes ago:_
Whether its bitter resentment against conservatives, or corporatists, or "woke" libs, or illegal aliens, resentment/anger would affect one's agenda, their aims and goals.
The person's attitude affects the standards they apply as they're making choices and decisions.
Tone and tactic are chosen according to that person's aims.
MLK Jr. used anger to great effect, idk why he's included at the end as an example of not using anger
I could be wrong, but you could be thinking of Malcolm X.
When he spoke, he often 'acted' angry, voicing the frustration of the people. It was not personal anger at another individual that he expressed. He may have done so in private, but 'using anger to great effect' was his rhetorical style; not a spontaneous emotional response to events.
@@LordBrittish I was not, although he's another good example
If you can stay calm even in unbearable situations that's a good sign of a great virtue. Anger management is a good thing. But sometimes it's really hard to control it, thats for sure.
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Outstanding
'He who makes you angry becomes your master for he is easily able to manipulate you at your will.'
it's not about having anger. It's how you USE it.
You only have one true ally in your brain: your intellect. Your emotions, feelings, thoughts and desires are all giving valuable albeit corrupt information most of the time. The first two are either too intense or too mild, the thoughts that pop up are simply false most of the time and your desires can seriously led you astray. It is up to your intellect to question them and make the best possible choice.
yes.
I would say i can argue its (also) the other way around.
Your intellect works only with what is consciouss. Any unconscious memory will run wild while you intellect tries to intellectualize its way out of it.
emotions an feelinfs either too intense or too mild? Maybe there is a reason for that.
Thoughts poping up can simply be an expression. Their truth value does not always need the be looked at to see what they want to tell you.
And your desires are the root of your very being. The desire to live.
Meanwhile my intellect hinders and sabotages me. Its my worst possible enemy that is always as smart as me. It lets me stay in my comfort zone because it knows that the comfort zone is cozy.
What is truly my ally in all of this are my friends. Social interaction is what makes me grow. Even my intellect then realizes that in order to hold this dynamic social comfort zone i need to step out of it from time to time.
Helpful 😊
This video appears at the right time for me:))
Courage = anger + patience + reason
I am watching this video just as my neighbour plays music on full blast at 2 am
Don't forget that the Roman Emperor Valentinian 1 died because he got too angry while having an argument with some quadi envoys 375 AD. According to historical accounts, he became enraged during the argument with the Quadi envoys and
in a fit of anger, Valentinian I burst a blood vessel in his brain, suffering a cerebral hemorrhage. He collapsed and died suddenly, leaving the Western part of the empire in turmoil.
like all other emotions anger is also an emotion so ask is it justified that it is not possible to be in two different states of emotions at same time
It's Always Right 🙌
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If you feel angry at anything, it is okay not to let it explode suddenly or hold it up. Just ease it out gently and rethink about the situation when you are calmer.
Nice
Anger is fine so long as it doesn't negatively affect others or yourself. A good way to help not be angry at someone is to flat out say "I am angry...". You could be angry at someone or you could be angry because of someone, the later being a bit more constructive and open ended. Another way to reflect on things is to ask if you being angry is helping the situation or are you just releasing things. You could also find an appropriate synonym that could help communicate the nature of your anger to others.
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I knew a guy who was angry all the time. The result was that nobody dared to ask him to do his job. So it worked well for him. He didn't have to do anything.
I've been asking myself this question
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I think expressing mild forms of anger is a way we connect with others, too. Whether it's letting off some steam or jokingly annoying your sister, I think accepting anger makes us more human.
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
A western person knows very well how to communicate simple ideas with Theories, Principles, Doctrines and Hypothesis. 👏👏👏
You should at least be aware of your anger, so that you might think more rationally about it. And in some moments, it's definitely a proper answer.
Nah, anger is needed to stand your ground. It is demonized these days because people thinks anger is the same as rage. A lot of people grew up with the message that anger is not good, always has to be repressed. This certainly contributes to modern mental health issues. Let children trust there impulses and teach them how to deal with them, without shaming or guilt. Emotional education of children needs to be a priority for the next decades.
When our brain decides it is.
Everyone is always acting in the best possible way they think they should or can act at a given time, with their available information. Some food for thought.
Yep.
Not true at all. This doesn't account for maliciousness which is very real.
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Always.
Always feel bad about being angry because I was of the opinion that it was a bad thing and a moral failure to be angry in and of itself. However, this may have changed my perspective, even if a little bit
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For me anger is pure energy. If you're feeling angry, it means that you need to take action. There's no such things as bad emotions, only a lack of self control. We need to learn why do we feel a certain way to address it.
3:54 The essence of the video
Not sure about that last statement. I feel like those in power often appropriate ideas of MLK, Ghandi, etc. to diminish protests and concerns of the masses today.
While I agree that to some extent, violence and anger aren't always the most productive means to an end, it's starting to sound like those in power would rather want people to silently protest so that they can more easily ignore them.
The video needed to define the anger it is referencing.
Agreed. I get uncontrollable mood swings from my bipolar that sends me into fits of rage. Can't exactly philosophy my way out of those.
The question is wrong. The question should be when does one use anger and act on it? Anger is a feeling and not something one can control feeling but one that we get to decide on how to act. Separating the action and the emotion/feeling?
Are you ready to challenge your beliefs? Delaney Thull's philosophical exploration of justified anger will leave you questioning everything!
Feel anger Is ok. It Is like Is someone hurts you, it Is ok feel sad and cry but then you have to control your emotions and act with serenity and wisdom. So yeah anger Is good and normal. But you shouldnt Let that anger control you. You need to act calm in order to avoid mistakes
When something is very unjust
''fear leads to anger.
anger leads to hate.
hate to leads to suffering''
Fire started the absolute advancement of technology, but when did it actually happened? that time we were able to control FIRE, not make fire but control. Apply it onto anger, being angry wouldn't do anything it'd just bring peak emotions, but control anger then you can be a leader, man, powerful individual, influencer, philosopher, trustworthy person lots and lots more. Balanced is all we need, that is how everything works completely fine through balance, too much then you're F, too less then it's ineffective.
When can a person say that anger is morally feasible?, the anger towards oneself, the greatest teacher is our selves toward oneself, so be angry if you weren't able to pass that exam.
I just made it up.
Slow to anger.
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I use anger as a way to get justice
get angry but when you feel like it is about to blind you. stop.
like owning a large dog, use it to scare others but don't let it harm anybody.
3:40 but did they though? It's totally possible to avoid spite and hatred whilst being angry at injustice.
That was 4 and a half minutes of basically saying "anger is an emotion".
Stoics doesn't believe 'you can't do anything ' I think the idea is more along the lines of 'sometimes in life there will be things beyond our control and failing to accept that will lead to disappoint and resentment '
could you make a video about the history of punishment for kids
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If we didn't get angry, the injustices wouldn't happen to begin with
Has no one since Aristotle come up with a better way to explain this?
Anger is ESSENTIAL. It is justifiable when you are oppressed. It is fuel to DO WHAT YOU MUST TO COMBAT ALL ENEMIES! Absolutely
We have no enemies people.
I think anger ia a natural reaction when someone do something annoying or hurting
But when anger was good?
I think anger was good then we used it wisely. Set boundaries to other
Example:When I was grade 7 my classmate always insult so I show them that I get angry by showing them they realize they can't do it again cuz they know I will fight back. now im in 8 grade I don't want to show anger that's why my classmate been insulting me for the past mouth because I don't show them a boundaries
"I have no enemies"😂
Are they called Frienemies if not foe
@@totalfree8740 they might
There is anger and then there’s sadism
True they are completely different.
"Anger is not always the answer!"
- someone from Angry Birds
Anger which can bring about good change = Use it as a tool (being in control of it).
Else it's wasting your resources.
When your righteous indignation has suffered a hit!
🤔 . . . Might want to explore this further, as well as other negative emotions. Primarily in regards to surface level, such as seeing little kids throwing temper tantrums, versus suppressed feelings, i.e. they look calm, cool, collective, even extremely sociable, but they’re actually driven by emotions inflicted upon by those who, in my case, threatened to being beaten up just because somebody’s talked to them & all they did was reply; somebody walks up to them, spouting words to deliberately coax hostile behaviors out of them, & then a friend of the coaxer walks up blaming the coaxer’s target for being the problem & such.
could you make a video about punishment for kids
Let's just try out everything.. one might work
Image thinking the experience of an emotion can be moral.
Yeah, that’s what I thought this whole time. Like so anger is immoral. What are we supposed to do now, just not feel it?
But then again, maybe it was talking about acting on anger rather than simply feeling it.
@@existentialchaos8 "What are we supposed to do now, just not feel it?" That's the position of the Stoics. The video really muddled the point, and should've explicitly focused on how you respond to anger as important rather than philosophical handwaving about how your family being murdered should impact you as much as finding your hair has split ends.
@@custos3249They didn't say you shouldn't feel it, just that it can be a waste of energy and not the best response vs maintaining your composure.
@@_Smarf_ Which isn't meaningfully different from general indifference, which is the soul of stoicism, not merely "maintaining your composure."
In my opinion, anger is appropriate-even righteous-as fuel for change when your nation has been occupied for generations by an enemy of humanity who acts with impunity supported militarily by an imposing, genocidal imperial power, neither of whom acknowledges you as a human being or your human rights and actively endeavours to obliterate your culture, your history, and your people in order to claim your country for their own. Alternatively, any armed resistance that is motivated by rage in such a hopeless situation is justified _illegal and morally wrong_ but still justified when all nonviolent forms of resistance are ignored or met with assaults, raids, abductions, murders, and worse.
I shoud ask my parents about this
So ultimately moving on without questioning to the people who affect our mental physical health?????
Anger is justified when the US House speaker says, it's a brave new world.
That is pretty dystopian