Why You Should Not Learn to Code (as an ex-Google programmer)

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  • @TechLead
    @TechLead  Před 3 lety +525

    Join ex-Google/ex-Facebook engineers for my coding interview training: techinterviewpro.com/

    • @ramsyrama
      @ramsyrama Před 3 lety +20

      thanks for making me a millionaire in my country Kenya...am now worth over 110,000 dollars that's over 12 million Kenyan shillings

    • @kamranmammadli5850
      @kamranmammadli5850 Před 3 lety +1

      nice

    • @zahash1045
      @zahash1045 Před 3 lety +4

      Hey techlead, I want to be like you

    • @ChandrashekharJani
      @ChandrashekharJani Před 3 lety +43

      With this video, he gave us no good reason to join this training.

    • @cinnybun739
      @cinnybun739 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ramsyrama ayy, do some charity and give me a job.

  • @strange498
    @strange498 Před 3 lety +17664

    Thanks Techlead for reducing some competition by discouraging them

    • @KineticCode
      @KineticCode Před 3 lety +581

      EXACTLY LOL

    • @smoothbeak
      @smoothbeak Před 3 lety +312

      My exact thought!

    • @giveaway6314
      @giveaway6314 Před 3 lety +699

      Coding was a respected job but now it is nothing more than just labour.

    • @Analekt
      @Analekt Před 3 lety +575

      Those that to be discouraged would never be a competition to begin with.

    • @masihuzzaman
      @masihuzzaman Před 3 lety +24

      You are right man...lol

  • @jayceewilliams5250
    @jayceewilliams5250 Před 3 lety +1646

    You thought we were on the same level, but in reality I'm up there😂

    • @yoooyoyooo
      @yoooyoyooo Před 3 lety +15

      he is like me

    • @atobee2595
      @atobee2595 Před 3 lety +19

      I felt that haha

    • @shnooog1
      @shnooog1 Před 3 lety +41

      best line of the video

    • @syk120
      @syk120 Před 3 lety +12

      best part of the video!

    • @SiChuanChilli
      @SiChuanChilli Před 3 lety +36

      as an ex-senior programmer, I approve 😂😂, he might not come off as the most humble guy but he's spewing facts😂😂😂

  • @agedvagabond
    @agedvagabond Před rokem +1283

    I only just got into programming at 35 years old making trading algorithms, I have honestly never been happier, being able to now make a computer do almost anything I can imagine, playing with machine learning and reverse engineering people's code, it is extremely rewarding, I think if you find a niche that you are passionate about and build something that invokes passion In you then everything else is irrelevant.

    • @seanl6478
      @seanl6478 Před rokem +42

      What did you do to learn? I’m 31 and miserable with my job. I want to change it in the next year or so.

    • @MrJeigh25
      @MrJeigh25 Před rokem +28

      I just love your energy man!! Let's make that a NORM to never stop learning a craft no matter our age!

    • @freeradical_v
      @freeradical_v Před rokem +22

      I’m 35 and have no idea how any of it works.
      Got a degree in international business and am unemployed.
      Should I switch and how long would it take?

    • @darlingtonanikwenwa1899
      @darlingtonanikwenwa1899 Před rokem +2

      I also wants to build trading algorithm,cos I have 🐝 trading since 2015. But I don't know anything about coding. Can you put me through?

    • @zeroheroes4081
      @zeroheroes4081 Před rokem

      Are you employed at some HF or are you makings your own trading algos?

  • @yesika9390
    @yesika9390 Před 2 lety +863

    I started learning to code because it helps me to focus. I have a very, VERY wandering mind and it helps me to stay concentrated and to think logically and coherently. It is almost a spiritual practice for me.

    • @wafazorgui9066
      @wafazorgui9066 Před rokem +49

      Me too and i thought i was the only one approaching programming for this reason OMG hi ! hh

    • @Myaccount923
      @Myaccount923 Před rokem +15

      Interesting you say that considering the links between spirituality and technology

    • @AnnabelleSwan
      @AnnabelleSwan Před rokem +22

      Oh wow, the same is with me. I do feel like coding returns me to my childhood where I concentrated. These days, my concentration returns back and I start to get more productive :)

    • @saniyaahmad3153
      @saniyaahmad3153 Před rokem +2

      But screen distracts me it's not healthy for eyes

    • @alfonstabz9741
      @alfonstabz9741 Před rokem +4

      try chess man.!

  • @tuikigeorge
    @tuikigeorge Před 3 lety +4982

    "If programmers come out of their houses, the population of the world will double." This guy is too funny

    • @rozanashahid6603
      @rozanashahid6603 Před 2 lety +21

      😹

    • @Sandeepkumar-dc1on
      @Sandeepkumar-dc1on Před 2 lety +33

      Im not goid at english but the joke is really made for us.we need to be engaged , the absence of entertainment may cause of population blast

    • @testhekid
      @testhekid Před 2 lety +1

      fr

    • @sojourneroftheland
      @sojourneroftheland Před 2 lety +78

      Whats funny, is this is the guy that made a video convincing me to be a coder...now he's the guy convincing me to not be a coder lol

    • @testhekid
      @testhekid Před 2 lety +7

      @@sojourneroftheland exactly

  • @marcioandre6469
    @marcioandre6469 Před 2 lety +912

    If there was a anime about programming I would like to see him as a villain

  • @ivanlagade
    @ivanlagade Před rokem +135

    Any career you choose will always have bigger competation in the future, we all have no choice but to excell on what we are doing.

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 Před rokem +9

      Programming is specifically becoming oversaturated. There's a reason why that term exists lmfao. Obviously there's going to be incredible competition at the highest level of any career. No one is denying that.

    • @Ratchet908
      @Ratchet908 Před rokem +3

      Programmers get rid of there on jobs the more they advance it, maybe law or medicine has less competition longer term

  • @TheBlackSpastic
    @TheBlackSpastic Před rokem +318

    I graduated in 2018, with a Game Development degree. Got hired making 65k at a company making slot machine games. Did 3 years there and learned a ton. If you are anything like me, 75% of what you learn will be after you graduate. I still have a ton to learn and am pretty sure I always will. Seriously thought I was too dumb to really get beyond this company, figured I'd retire there. Luckily, got a foot in the door at a AAA game studio (my goal in learning to program in the fiest place). Face planted half the interview, but must've done ok. Accepted their offer and finally am making 6 figures.
    I'm a dumbass, most people could make a living programming, but making half a million a year is unrealistic. You can just make a good living without living like Drake lol. If it interests you do it, if it doesn't do something else. Don't listen to people that operated outside what 99% of us will ever be able to achieve. Almost all of us, even ones doing fantastic, will never make > 200k a year. The sitting in front of a computer for 12 hrs part is for sure true. Never in my life had to work out, but if I don't now, I'll gain a ton of weight.
    I'm not even close to the same level as this guy. Obviously he has a ton more experience, but things haven't been so bleak from my perspective. I also was 30 when I graduated. You can just have a job and make a decent living and not live in California lol.

    • @joaquin67
      @joaquin67 Před rokem

      How's your work-life balance and in what state do you work out of?

    • @TheBlackSpastic
      @TheBlackSpastic Před rokem +11

      @@joaquin67 it's pretty good so far. As I'm work from home it's actually a bit harder to separate work and home than if I were going into the studio. It's mostly just my own sense of, "I need to get this done. I need to make sure I look good". I work out of Nevada.

    • @Billyyezzur
      @Billyyezzur Před rokem +9

      I'm a 16 yr old dude and I'm looking to get into devops or tech sales,get my cs degree and work hard enough to make 120k a year,I'm not looking to be "rich" I'm juss looking to make enough to were i can take care of a family one day and live comfortably but ngl at my age rn I'm pretty confused like wat uni can i go into that won't destroy me with debt or which country is high demand in tech,alot of qestions not too many answers

    • @estebanlegare
      @estebanlegare Před rokem +4

      Best fucking comment, thanks man

    • @oniondesu9633
      @oniondesu9633 Před rokem +1

      you got very fortunate, this is like listening to a lottery winner tell you that playing lotteries is a good investment. techleads advice is alot more realistic, most people most get these cushy jobs, especially if they only picked up the passion later in life

  • @abrahandelabastida843
    @abrahandelabastida843 Před 3 lety +4031

    I love this guy. He randomly goes: "Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Gandhi, Jesus, me"... he doesn't even blink, lmfao

    • @Exascale
      @Exascale Před 3 lety +254

      The funny thing is that the SJW's and most women will not realize his dry humor and just think he is an arrogant asswhole.

    • @LMQC
      @LMQC Před 3 lety +4

      😂

    • @michealhuver3043
      @michealhuver3043 Před 3 lety +29

      I see a Bill Burr reference, I like!

    • @cheeseischrist3141
      @cheeseischrist3141 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Exascale U need to b at the same level to understand it. Otherwise its worthless for "em" to understand.

    • @SanskritiGuptaInTech
      @SanskritiGuptaInTech Před 3 lety +6

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ZEUSAIMIGHTY
    @ZEUSAIMIGHTY Před 3 lety +1355

    This is the most depressing inspirational video that I’ve ever seen

    • @xsixinfantryx
      @xsixinfantryx Před 2 lety +20

      well thats because he's better than all of us. we just dont understand where hes coming from

    • @mark_heaven
      @mark_heaven Před 2 lety +3

      @@xsixinfantryx So accurate bro. His wisdom truly speaks.

    • @mark_heaven
      @mark_heaven Před 2 lety +4

      @@xsixinfantryx However, he said react native is open source and nobody cares about it anymore. Wtf did he mean by that

    • @minhcanh83
      @minhcanh83 Před 2 lety +1

      😅🤣😂

    • @sadidimtiaz3913
      @sadidimtiaz3913 Před 2 lety +4

      but his facts are true though...

  • @mynameisroman
    @mynameisroman Před rokem +156

    i'm programming since i'm 10 years old. i love that job. but i never recommend software development. its a hard job and certainly not for everyone. most will fail because of pressure or bad skills. 8 out of 10 programmer at a company are usually not really good. they just "survive".

    • @gyaaAAaaaaaaaat
      @gyaaAAaaaaaaaat Před rokem +1

      can the "bad skills" be solved? btw im just starting from scratch im 16 but im already in love with it and idk if im good cuz i didn't start yet

    • @justfloating9787
      @justfloating9787 Před rokem

      Then what should they do ? I'm learning to code and id like to work in the MAANG companies . What should I do ? If not a software development .

    • @superfun2175
      @superfun2175 Před rokem +1

      Do what you are doing, you will always update yourself don't let anyone discourage you

    • @zsheikh1234
      @zsheikh1234 Před rokem

      are you a introvert?

    • @robertmazurowski5974
      @robertmazurowski5974 Před rokem +9

      And let me guess, You are the good one?

  • @HECTORARTUROA
    @HECTORARTUROA Před 2 lety +21

    0:01 Money vs. difficulty.
    3:45 Machine learning algorythm 💲💲💲💲💲.
    8:00 Languages: front end, back end, data.
    11:30 Fame.

  • @TechTribeCommunity
    @TechTribeCommunity Před 3 lety +832

    Tech lead discouraging people from coding -> lower supply of coders -> higher salaries for those who stay -> STONKS

    • @Zain17Said
      @Zain17Said Před 3 lety +42

      Underrated mentality. I'm surprised there aren't more comments like this. Prob bc most people watching are a bunch of sheep lol

    • @liqritrs8391
      @liqritrs8391 Před 3 lety +6

      why would he care if others get more? Also do you think he’s going to be able to discourage that many people?

    • @palabert
      @palabert Před 3 lety +3

      Hodl

    • @amartyaasengupta8187
      @amartyaasengupta8187 Před 3 lety +10

      @@Zain17Said tbh everyone codes today ....EVERYONE .And if ur in a first world country then don’t ...cause it’s easier to outsource it to third world nations who will do it for 2,000-3000 usd

    • @amartyaasengupta8187
      @amartyaasengupta8187 Před 3 lety

      @@liqritrs8391 ifkr and not many have yt channels lol

  • @mitchellporductin
    @mitchellporductin Před 2 lety +2063

    “Your passion for coding may actually be a passion for success.”
    This was the answer I was looking for, and I’m very surprised that I found it laid out so simply. Thank you for this video.

    • @mark_heaven
      @mark_heaven Před 2 lety +7

      He is said react native is open source and nobody cares about it anymore. Care to explain bruh?

    • @elslappo6603
      @elslappo6603 Před 2 lety +11

      Agreed- I use other people's software and often ponder on how I could improve and "perfect" it, and am often disappointed when programmers release software and equipment that is not at full functionality. I could never release something that I didn't think was truly innovative. Things have been done before, and not to a high standard, and I feel like because majority of people don't have intelligence when it comes to networks and software, it's overlooked and kind of just allowed. This should not be the case, as the information and tools we have access to nowadays is immensely powerful.

    • @MadofaA
      @MadofaA Před 2 lety +24

      @@elslappo6603 Yes. Pity you didn’t use some of those “immensely powerful tools” to fix your grammar and spelling. Just saying…

    • @elslappo6603
      @elslappo6603 Před 2 lety +39

      @@MadofaA I don't really care what my grammar is like on a CZcams comment. just being honest. Thanks for the heads up 🤣

    • @pabloheredia6042
      @pabloheredia6042 Před 2 lety +3

      I didnt understood if this is good or bad, can you explain plz? Thnks

  • @greedyrumpirate6697
    @greedyrumpirate6697 Před rokem +46

    You're totally right about the code and bug fixes. I was working over 13-14 hours a day on the computer for over a year. It burnt me out so badly, that I couldn't look at another line of code again! It took me 4 years to be able to think about maybe coding again. The pain in my stomach, eyes and head was all I could remember.

    • @BigBFC
      @BigBFC Před rokem +8

      programmers burnout it's totally soul crushing. No other profession burnout come even closer. Hope you come up with better work life balance this time bro.

    • @Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire
      @Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire Před rokem

      Weak, lol.

    • @DrFaggioni
      @DrFaggioni Před rokem +1

      @@BigBFC oh man, you don't now architects... heavy workloads, lot of critics and complanings from clients with low salaries :D

    • @peterk.2108
      @peterk.2108 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire yeah, i can code for 48 hours a day

  • @Skyscraper125
    @Skyscraper125 Před rokem +20

    Great video! I am currently in tech support (not so much IT as helping customers with products) while I work on learning more in sql, c (and subsidiary languages), and web design. Originally I was in college for electrical engineering wanting to go into alternative energies but switched the moment I took a C++ class and loved it and found that I was really good at it. My dad has been a programmer since the 80s, both my brothers are programmers, and I've been messing around with computers since I was 5 years old so maybe it's just something that comes more natural to me because of that. Some dad's teach their sons how to fix a car when they are kids. . .my dad taught us how to build a PC, set up an OS or mess around with BIOS settings.
    Ultimately, what you said is spot on - to become a programmer you have to become a nerd. . Not going to lie this video really helped me. I was feeling pretty down in my work just landing a tech support job out of college, but I'm getting a lot more into windows & mac OS/BIOS and sql server/db management than I ever thought I would have doing what I'm doing. I'm only 26 and if my dad is anything to show for it, I have another 40 years to improve as he has to the point of (probably) never retiring because making something do exactly what you want it to do is so ... bizarrely satisfying.

    • @ericnail1
      @ericnail1 Před rokem +4

      I had been programming for years (since I was 11), but couldn’t realistically land a job without professional experience, so I used the technical experience I had to get a job at Apple as an Apple care tech. I hated it, but it was in the industry and paid the bills while I worked on projects to “demonstrate” my coding ability. The real issue isn’t whether you know how to code, you can easily demonstrate that in a 1 on 1 interview, it’s actually getting the interview. My point is, I had a first programming job 6 months after starting at Apple and it was half tech support, half software development (a small company). So while the tech support was not my goal, having that experience on my resume put me in a position where a company was willing to take the risk on me with no experience programming because I had demonstrated proficiency in the other aspect of the role. Once you put on the software engineer hat and demonstrate an ability to solve problems, any smart employer will be quickly making moves to keep you and hire someone else (at less cost) to fill the support role. Once you have software engineer on your resume the doors are wide open to whatever specific you’re looking to get into.
      While software development as a whole is becoming “dumbed down” and full of “low quality” programmers just looking for a paycheck, that also means that when someone starts actually solving problems, it’s like a spotlight follows them around the office. People take notice.
      In reality what is happening is that previously there was a high bar to learning programming, so even low effort workers that did so could get jobs with ease, but now the bar is much lower and the added competition means these people are paid accordingly. If you are passionate and good at solving problems, your tasks are not plug-and-play and your pay scale is entirely different.

  • @TheoJay615
    @TheoJay615 Před 3 lety +1648

    Real talk: you should not get into coding if it's just for the money - it's not a get rich quick scheme, it's a career path.
    Because if you don't at least like coding, you will hate what you're doing and the people around you.
    Also: all those work amenities like free breakfast, gyms, sleep pods those are not for you. They're to keep you in the office longer.

    • @Karuska22ps
      @Karuska22ps Před 3 lety +16

      Too many damn CS bandwagons

    • @0Mynameisearl0
      @0Mynameisearl0 Před 3 lety +94

      @@ShaferHart yeah, that’s definitely true. I loved coding in college and building a few small projects; but, working at some large company on a bunch of boring projects in old property tech rather quickly zapped the joy out of coding for me. Which is why I’m planning my escape from this company lol

    • @nIrUbU01
      @nIrUbU01 Před 3 lety +27

      So what good does "keeping you in the office" do for google if you spend it eating bacon and working out your abs and getting massages?

    • @erickalvarez6486
      @erickalvarez6486 Před 3 lety +38

      @@nIrUbU01 2 things, you don't wanna go, they earn you by that, you'd be loyal.
      2nd if something is needed, you're right there to speak to.
      Maybe more things but those comes to my mind in this moment.

    • @Saiffera
      @Saiffera Před 3 lety +2

      @@ShaferHart that is why working for a startup is better. Of course with downsides of ALL_TECHNOLOGY_PRO_DEVELOPER and long hours. At least startups use modern tech.stack instead of dead trash like COBOL.

  • @chillprogrammer
    @chillprogrammer Před 3 lety +612

    Saying not to code and promoting coding interview tutorial 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥

    • @Analekt
      @Analekt Před 3 lety +88

      Actually i think the real message is: dont code unless u feel a talent inside, a calling. In other words unless u crazy passionate fast thinking introvert with very healthy body to survive all that coffee to come ur way.

    • @sobeidalagrange7129
      @sobeidalagrange7129 Před 3 lety +4

      😹😹😹😹😹😹👋👋👋👋😊😀

    • @larasingg
      @larasingg Před 3 lety +2

      @@Analekt Fast thinking introvert person who likes code do not "feel", and wtf is a calling.

    • @will-wowdk1930
      @will-wowdk1930 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Analekt what if you dont drink coffee

    • @Analekt
      @Analekt Před 3 lety +3

      @@will-wowdk1930 you figuratively screwed )

  • @josefpharma4714
    @josefpharma4714 Před rokem +65

    For me it's quite simple:
    If you love to code - become a programmer.
    The room does not matter much and even if the problems to solve are not that interesting it's up to the programmer to make it interesting.
    That's the cool thing: You can make it interesting by simply using your skill for solving problems.
    IMHO: Nearly every time I was hired for a quite boring sounding project it turned to a nice job with interesting problem solving strategies involved -- That's the cool thing being a programmer.

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 Před rokem +1

      There's nothing cool about being a programmer, besides the inflated salaries of course

    • @josefpharma4714
      @josefpharma4714 Před rokem +2

      @@wallacesousuke1433 In that case you are not a programmer youself, I guess.
      Programming is similar to every other engineering, If you like to create and make things work you will probably consider it “cool”.
      In the end how you evaluate such things is very personal.
      In case you are working as a developer, it’s your responsibility to make it cool for you, otherwise you are probably not in the right job.

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 Před rokem

      @@josefpharma4714 if it didn't pay so well I doubt 99% of the programmers would've chosen this career lol and no I'm not a programmer, I'm considering it but it's so boring, dull and time-wasting, feels like torture.. also, it's sad that Unreal Engine requires C++ 🤮

    • @kintsugittv2537
      @kintsugittv2537 Před rokem +1

      Would you say if you are most interested in coding, software engineering would be good? I want to learn C++ for Unreal Engine 5 and to make own apps etc. And I know Software Engineering careers pay well and you work on software, programs, etc.

  • @benjamindillard9852
    @benjamindillard9852 Před rokem +7

    Great video. Really enjoyed it. Coding is not for everyone in fact it really is for a select few who will really become reliable go to people as corporate level developers. I have been in software development for over 40 years. Retired now but still enjoy it as a hobby. I started as a mainframe assembler programmer and was a very competent Systems Programmer. First 8 years of my career. Assembler really gave me the background to fully understand the inner workings of all programming languages. I had a in depth knowledge of how all modern computer languages worked and languages like Java, C, C++ was a breeze to learn from that background. In today's world with Agile Sprint methods for development you must be able to code with speed and accuracy as you have other developers needing your piece completed quickly so they can continue their development. You need rapid problem solving ability. It takes years of hands on experience to be able to perform at this level. Sure as Tech Lead explains you can create a website with a click of a button today but not an enterprise level site which is where the big bucks are. Today you really must be a full stack developer. Know front to back and all supporting pieces, database, many vendor tools. Spend hours on the phone in war rooms. It takes time, exposure and total dedication.

  • @gaeltigree418
    @gaeltigree418 Před 3 lety +1536

    "in order to become a programmer, you have to become a NERD" that man is speaking straight facts

    • @yashaswikulshreshtha1588
      @yashaswikulshreshtha1588 Před 2 lety +44

      Well I am not nerd but trust me nerds are the most attractive from inside and within, normal people are attractive from outside. Choice is yours, I like to go with nerds not cuz they're nerds but cuz of their minds

    • @willia3r
      @willia3r Před 2 lety +143

      @@yashaswikulshreshtha1588 yeah but not all nerds are built the same.
      A lot of them are effeminate weirdos.

    • @dixoncider6786
      @dixoncider6786 Před 2 lety +8

      @@willia3r 😂😂😂😂

    • @roneilboodie6735
      @roneilboodie6735 Před 2 lety +4

      @@yashaswikulshreshtha1588 same! Nerds are interesting

    • @kooxaldoxt5162
      @kooxaldoxt5162 Před 2 lety +6

      Imma nerd who acts both weird and intelligent.

  • @radiofreevillage
    @radiofreevillage Před 3 lety +1365

    "Your passion for coding may be passion for success." This is seriously deep, because it is likely true.

    • @cattonny119
      @cattonny119 Před 2 lety +8

      Likely true, but what should people do if that's the case?

    • @samismynameee
      @samismynameee Před 2 lety +26

      @@cattonny119 the craft may not necessarily be as important as the result… go for it anyway

    • @dynamicdingus7003
      @dynamicdingus7003 Před 2 lety +39

      I just want a career that will keep my mind busy and not doing mindless work where i zone out out of reality everyday. I need a challenge. Also something secure that will guarantee i can find a job without getting in a lifetime of debt. A career that will give me enough to sustain myself and fund my hobbies. My hobbies of art and music that I can maybe turn into other forms of income. It would be interesting to see how logical work affects my creativity and if using both interchangeably can improve my work in both my career and hobbies. I do not want to make my artistic hobbies my main source of income cus 1. It's risky and takes time to gain an audience 2. I want my passion to be the way I relax and escape reality rather than a stressful task with deadlines that I depend on to survive. So this is why I have began my journey to learn this topic.

    • @frog6054
      @frog6054 Před 2 lety +21

      I just want to eat foods and have roof over my head.

    • @harleyburton8731
      @harleyburton8731 Před 2 lety +7

      @@dynamicdingus7003 The unfortunate truth is that most programming jobs are boring, and trying not to zone out is probably the hardest thing many people do day to day. If you're lucky you can land a job where you will work on some interesting projects, but most programmers spend most of their time refactoring someone else's code and making small changes to existing business code. Even the tasks to create something new will tend to be pretty simple stuff; especially after you've done it for a few years. What's funny is I envy graphic artists, and I wish I was good enough to create game assets for a living, and programming is my hobby :)

  • @omlem8641
    @omlem8641 Před rokem +67

    I've been a software developer for 40+ years, since mainframes, and I'm still doing the craft, and man, you just hit every single point I always make, every single one. It is rare to see that perspective. Great video!!!

  • @6torthor
    @6torthor Před rokem +6

    My gist of this, if you want to become a successful programmer, you see programming as a tool not a career. Entrepreneur endeavors are what make you a successful programmer

  • @starshkr46
    @starshkr46 Před 3 lety +584

    It's the Programmer's Paradox:
    You must learn to code to know that you shouldn't learn to code.

    • @nataliegrayhandle
      @nataliegrayhandle Před 3 lety +22

      No, you should learn to code then learn how to manage what you have coded into success.

    • @iamthekwan
      @iamthekwan Před 3 lety +14

      @@nataliegrayhandle r/woosh

    • @TAREEBITHETERRIBLE
      @TAREEBITHETERRIBLE Před 2 lety +1

      TIME PARADOX #METALGEARSOLID #TIMEPARADOX

    • @iamadeveloper-ihavelife1655
      @iamadeveloper-ihavelife1655 Před 2 lety +1

      Haha!
      You are a developer and want to become VISIBLE as person?
      See this 1-minute clip:
      czcams.com/video/bKTwEwfdpAc/video.html

    • @lawrencebolt3540
      @lawrencebolt3540 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah, the same thing goes for network engineering. You need to learn networking (CCNA, Network +) in order to understand why you don't need network engineers anymore. Everything's moved to cloud....but you MUST still learn network engineering and get the certifications.... Which you'll never need.

  • @zach9538
    @zach9538 Před 2 lety +831

    This is the video none of us wanted to see but we all needed. At every job you need to find this guy, the one that will disregard the corporate brainwashing and tell you about the bullshit everyone hates but is too afraid to speak up about. Its invaluable and every "good" company has one, they can teach you all you need to know in one day or video apparently.

    • @JuanHernandez-mz6yp
      @JuanHernandez-mz6yp Před 2 lety +26

      Speaking the truth affects people in different ways. I'm so used to hearing sugar coated copycat answers about everything in life that I feel sorry for those people who seem to not be able to think for themselves. The hard truth is what I needed to hear and am glad I heard it here! REAL life perspective...

    • @Xentrolis
      @Xentrolis Před 2 lety +19

      Yeah, but most of what he says is wrong. And he's intentionally trying to discourage you so you'll buy his course.

    • @PhilippJohn
      @PhilippJohn Před 2 lety +4

      I've had the same conversation, just in strategy consulting. Immensely valuable but hits hard. Currently debating a lot whether to go down the tech or consulting route...

    • @theRPGmaster
      @theRPGmaster Před 2 lety +2

      @@Xentrolis That's how you make money, getting people to buy things from you. It's smart, maybe something to learn from

    • @limo9402
      @limo9402 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Xentrolis aww sorry for your feelings bro you gonna listen to him 😂 lol do you code to solve problems or you just do it because it sounds cool? Ask yourself that

  • @lewisburton1852
    @lewisburton1852 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m a businessman and learning how to code now, seeing opportunity and knowing how to build something or at the very least able to explain it to other far better programmers is where it’s at.

  • @javad9365
    @javad9365 Před 3 lety +718

    "They're stuck in their basement reinstalling Archlinux over and over again". that hurt.

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Před 3 lety +15

      Open-source life right there.

    • @mumumumah
      @mumumumah Před 3 lety +3

      Indeed - ouch

    • @blueNeodymium
      @blueNeodymium Před 3 lety +9

      omg, this is the most stupid video I saw in a long time, please don't listen this guy.

    • @Subhawkins
      @Subhawkins Před 3 lety

      😂😂😂😂seriously

    • @natishabobb3156
      @natishabobb3156 Před 3 lety +5

      @@blueNeodymium why?

  • @AxieTipsFlystewie
    @AxieTipsFlystewie Před 3 lety +1872

    "Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates you know ... people like us" - Techlead
    .
    .
    lmao this is the content I came here for

    • @zenbrucelee2653
      @zenbrucelee2653 Před 3 lety +25

      What Tech Lead says here is in some way the same conclusion like the 3 1/2 Hour podcast from Naval here on CZcams. It is a superhuman power nowadays to unterstand good enough programming but also be able to do all the bussiness related stuff from an entrepreneur like (marketing , sales , product , communication and so on) . So i think programming is a superhumanpower if i know how to connect it with an entrepreneurial spirit. And that is exactly what TechLead is saying here as well. I also saw that lately more and more smart people from Y-Combinator do their own CZcams-Channel as well. Yeah CZcams doesnot allow freedom of expression but there are ways around so it works for you. At the moment it is one of the biggest public places to reach a lot of people . That s why you should use it for the leverage. I think it is time for me to be a part of this culture as well. Who knows how it will be in 3-6 years??? And actually if you are good 5 to 6 figures a month are well well possible! And i think i might reach out way higher than that and might get into 7 to 8 income figures. For what? For bringing value to the society and simultanously having passion for it. But it is an active job not like an active passive income job like an app or something. But the one doesnot exclude the other. Thanks Tech Lead my brother! :D

    • @kulashaker30
      @kulashaker30 Před 3 lety +5

      Same, that's the same thing I came here for.

    • @kansbar7456
      @kansbar7456 Před 3 lety +18

      He always makes me feel crappy no matter which video I look :)

    • @MrWabouz
      @MrWabouz Před 3 lety +18

      @@kansbar7456 I can't see why, he seems pretty miserable to me :/ I mean, trying that hard to look cool and smart, there's definitely something wrong... I've met so many brilliant minds, and the common thing they all had was their humbleness. Know your worth but be clear-sighted enough to understand you know nothing.

    • @Ale-hh1xz
      @Ale-hh1xz Před 3 lety +34

      Yeah I mean tech lead is very very humble, it's such an honor for Bill gates and bezos to be mentioned

  • @alexandrelinhares2711
    @alexandrelinhares2711 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for putting the relatable show for us!

  • @orbiccachdigitalmarketing5865

    You and your counterparts are very smart. The “C” entrepreneurs like myself need people like you. I’m actually shocked someone would code as a hobby. That’s great insight. Thank you.

  • @nullpointer57
    @nullpointer57 Před 2 lety +271

    What I learnt from this video is that if you've done enough prestigious jobs coding and have achieved a specific position in life, you can make videos bashing the very thing that got you to this position, along with shameless ironic promotions and that people will somehow think that these are life lessons

    • @ceetee110
      @ceetee110 Před rokem +63

      Don't forget name-dropping Jeff Bezos and Elon musk, and then saying "people like us."
      Like, dude... What?

    • @excite236
      @excite236 Před rokem +2

      @@ceetee110 And he is demanding the video to be liked in the end. I think he has a narcissistic personality disorder.

    • @Khang-kw6od
      @Khang-kw6od Před rokem +20

      looks like some people can't appreciate sarcasm

    • @kaihusravnajmiddinov5413
      @kaihusravnajmiddinov5413 Před rokem +1

      How do you know that this existence reached something through programming ? I am not sure

    • @abdullahandbeyond
      @abdullahandbeyond Před rokem

      You got a good perspective but he also got a good one ;)

  • @jamesdean1143
    @jamesdean1143 Před 3 lety +1354

    “Do not underestimate me because of my haircut !”
    This guy’s narcissism makes him a comedic genius, without even trying, just by being himself.

    • @roninairsoft25
      @roninairsoft25 Před 3 lety +39

      it's why I watch his channel LMAO

    • @svalbard01
      @svalbard01 Před 3 lety +63

      "...because I could. I. cOULD."

    • @danieldickson2
      @danieldickson2 Před 3 lety +90

      It’s a character - he is acting

    • @shadyss96
      @shadyss96 Před 3 lety +42

      @@danieldickson2 I hope so lol

    • @Folisaa
      @Folisaa Před 3 lety +16

      Well, no, he's trying pretty hard for these videos and plans it lol.

  • @lfuleki
    @lfuleki Před rokem +2

    Very good point. The traditional software coding(writing) processes moves toward the highly specialized Low-Code + No-Code platforms + virtual human+ AI controlled metaworlds. The human-computer interaction goes more and more deep as inteligent systems will simply understands the "programmer" intention(design instructions) and simply it will create and provide the answer in form of an artificial engineered software entity.

  • @muvsharma
    @muvsharma Před 8 měsíci +5

    2 years later after completing a computer science degree, he was right

    • @semontrashbin799
      @semontrashbin799 Před měsícem +2

      what are you doing now? 7 months after this comment?

    • @Icedanon
      @Icedanon Před 6 dny

      Yeah he was. Now I have a mountain of debt for a worthless degree.

    • @semontrashbin799
      @semontrashbin799 Před 6 dny

      @@Icedanon are you being serious?

    • @Icedanon
      @Icedanon Před 6 dny

      @semontrashbin799 yes, I'm paying off my debt with other means.

  • @morty6159
    @morty6159 Před 3 lety +344

    "I lived your dream" instead of "Live your dream" :D

  • @lutaayam
    @lutaayam Před 3 lety +92

    I studied computer science around the same time as tech lead. I thought I was brilliant until I met people who could program in 30 minutes what I needed 2 days to program. He’s telling the truth. It’s not for everyone

    • @ysko5980
      @ysko5980 Před 2 lety +4

      Fr?!!

    • @ysko5980
      @ysko5980 Před 2 lety +1

      How did they do it?!!!

    • @lutaayam
      @lutaayam Před 2 lety +35

      @@ysko5980 The same way Usain Bolt could run 100M under 10 seconds and I couldn't

    • @ysko5980
      @ysko5980 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lutaayam i mean, how can they code it in just 30mins?!!

    • @lutaayam
      @lutaayam Před 2 lety +22

      @@ysko5980 they’re are much smarter than me

  • @edwardrook8146
    @edwardrook8146 Před rokem +59

    I really enjoyed this video. I laughed out loud repeatedly throughout because of your dry humor. And it is also informative and eye opening with regards to the coding profession and what programmers do.

  • @Pherecydes
    @Pherecydes Před 3 lety +241

    The flaw in tech lead's argument is assuming that the problems he worked on during his career as a SWE are going to be the same as the ones that the next generation of engineers will address, which is just not true. Sure, making an online business is easier than ever but there are other bigger and better problems now. Crytocurrency, decentralized finance, distributed systems, robotics, biotech, etc are all going to need software engineers. For highly skilled software engineers there's no shortage of demand or opportunity.

    • @TAREEBITHETERRIBLE
      @TAREEBITHETERRIBLE Před 2 lety +15

      yes very correct demands change. When Henry Ford invented the gas powered engine, THAT was the problem at the time. Cars have evolutionized and people are not really obsessed with building better engines, the majory is focused on the aesthetic features of the vehicle and going from point a to b, or simply having a car while their cohorts dont. Technology is only getting more complicated and the question is, whos going to take care + advance all this stuff?? definitely not this generation of pop music and song singing coke heads/crack addicts. Not everyone is passionate about tech things are going downhill and it will be visible in the near future.

    • @TheKeelanstuart
      @TheKeelanstuart Před 2 lety +7

      he's a troll, dude... you can't take him seriously.

    • @drunkenpirate47x81
      @drunkenpirate47x81 Před 2 lety +5

      yes but you still need to become a nerd right?

    • @BettyAttoms
      @BettyAttoms Před 2 lety +10

      Your comment saved me

    • @ereyes95
      @ereyes95 Před 2 lety +1

      This is an excellent point. Thanks!

  • @aniketjaiswal3876
    @aniketjaiswal3876 Před 3 lety +283

    Techlead:So, Why you should not learn to code.
    Also Techlead: Oh here is a course from ex google ..Sign up.
    Audience: 🥺🥺

  • @istayhighi1540
    @istayhighi1540 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Man I like how realistic this is. No bs just facts. Thanks. I’m looking into learning coding just for fun and add a new skill. I enjoy a lot of nerdy things. New tech and finding how they work, improving or changing things to how I would like it to work. I had a lot of fun with .bat files when I was younger and just cool and rewarding seeing a code come to life.

  • @HerculesCoronaBorealis

    Absolutely great insight. What a GEM of information that those focused on this career path need to watch.

  • @Alhoshka
    @Alhoshka Před 3 lety +61

    "Senior SWE don't code anymore they spend their time writing design documents, synergizing"
    I resent having become a software architect. All you do is write documentation, manage the technical context, and orchestrate SDLC. I took a significant pay cut just so I could code again. I was so unhappy doing almost exclusively administrative and orchestration stuff.
    "Is that what you want to be? Because that's not going to pay you that much"
    Very true, but it does pay you more than enough to have a comfortable life. If coding, solving complex problems, and designing software at implementational level makes you happy, you should definitely go for it!

    • @gjvnq
      @gjvnq Před 3 lety +1

      So if I like paperwork and writing specs am I in luck?

    • @LeEnnyFace
      @LeEnnyFace Před 3 lety +1

      @@gjvnq provavelmente

  • @zulfequarali31
    @zulfequarali31 Před 3 lety +132

    ‘ you don’t have to mix your passion with your actual work ‘ - I love that

    • @luisrave9568
      @luisrave9568 Před 2 lety +4

      Many people say exactly the opossite

    • @silentstormstudios
      @silentstormstudios Před 2 lety +10

      @@conservativestrawman9837 Yep, often making your passion your work is a sure fire way to kill your passion.

  • @klp7620
    @klp7620 Před rokem +19

    most companies today need and hire for this type of skill. It’s not necessarily for a glam job. My nephew does it locally to me and is paid well but not rich by any stretch. It’s a good skill to learn with everything going tech these days. Not just for a glory california job. You can apply it to pretty much every field, not just big tech.

  • @hyperspacecode
    @hyperspacecode Před 9 měsíci

    This is a great video, Sir! It put a lot of things in perspective for me.

  • @michaelzhang2532
    @michaelzhang2532 Před 3 lety +78

    AFTER 2 YEAR, the channel has evolved into a stand-up comedy channel. Great work thanks!

  • @williamhayden2492
    @williamhayden2492 Před 3 lety +219

    Google Janitor, let’s go!!

    • @kartikkalia01
      @kartikkalia01 Před 3 lety +1

      Dababy on baby
      Lesssss gowww

    • @Kenbomp
      @Kenbomp Před 3 lety +1

      There's nothing wrong with waiting until college to learn coding

    • @timmuller81
      @timmuller81 Před 3 lety +1

      Is this part of his coaching course? If so ... take my money!

    • @enriqueortiz131
      @enriqueortiz131 Před 3 lety +1

      Can you work remotely as a janitor?

    • @Kekafuch
      @Kekafuch Před 2 lety +1

      During the pandemic, likely in demand!
      Where do you work son?
      At Google!

  • @mukondelelic.mulaudzi8357

    Haha I definitely enjoyed the humour but what kept me watching was just the dose of reality you are dishing out, so refreshing. I am in EdTech so I can relate to the things you speak about. I couldn't code to save my life but I am working with technology in education, my primary interest being education :)

  • @g6mogulthepeoplesmogul
    @g6mogulthepeoplesmogul Před rokem +1

    I actually enjoyed this video. Great personality and perspective!

  • @RealHIFIHelp
    @RealHIFIHelp Před 2 lety +110

    "Yeah you better believe it, I lived your dream" LOL

  • @dav.7557
    @dav.7557 Před 3 lety +155

    10:53 "people like Bill Gates Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, or my self, people like us" (Best Statement ever)

  • @briant2979
    @briant2979 Před 2 lety

    More motivated than ever, thank you 🙏🏻

  • @steve-o4369
    @steve-o4369 Před rokem

    Thank you for your perspective on coding!

  • @UECSoumyaRay
    @UECSoumyaRay Před 3 lety +571

    Only few can understand his humour:
    "Imagine women in swimming pool and code HTML"😂😂😂

    • @jhonfamo8412
      @jhonfamo8412 Před 3 lety +5

      Oh it's Rich isn't it this guy is hilarious

    • @tunac2816
      @tunac2816 Před 3 lety +4

      Reality, yes. I have female coders as my colleague.

    • @corpclarke
      @corpclarke Před 3 lety +23

      The shot of him typing fast on the RGB keyboard just after that killed me.

    • @tahmidjahin179
      @tahmidjahin179 Před 3 lety +2

      Someone help me understand the joke

    • @Adriction
      @Adriction Před 3 lety +11

      "because they're stuck in their basement, reinstalling arch linux" was good laugh too :'D

  • @OinSonOfGloin
    @OinSonOfGloin Před 2 lety +71

    "Where I was making 600k a year. Even though it's not the worst thing it worked for me" as I make 20 k a year in the military where I pull 24 hour shifts

  • @fletchdavidson6079
    @fletchdavidson6079 Před rokem +6

    Host: Asian minority who was given an opportunity through his skills and diversity efforts at Google.
    Also, Host: You shouldn't do it because diversity efforts from companies will deprive you of opportunities. 🧐

  • @applemorales5853
    @applemorales5853 Před rokem +3

    I am struggling these days to move forward with the career choice of being a stack developer. The tools that have come out two years after this video makes me feel like im working at a sleeping snail’s pace. My creativity is supressed by the desire to understand these tools so i can then use them, beyond that my pride says i shouldnt use other people’s tools because how the hell am i gonna know what i’m using if i don’t make it myself? I’m real torn about going forward because idk that i can keep up or if my work will even matter to anyone. This video helped me feel positive about my ideas but also makes me real confused about the career because not everyone can be in front of the computer all day because they have no money or because they lack the attention span. Good luck to everyone. I hope we can all make the decisions that help us move forward

  • @TechwithLucy
    @TechwithLucy Před 3 lety +224

    Next video: “Why I have 1 Million Subscribers” (As A Millionaire)

    • @febbone
      @febbone Před 3 lety +1

      hahaha

    • @pateltanaka49
      @pateltanaka49 Před 3 lety +2

      Im subscribing to your CZcams

    • @coderaustin
      @coderaustin Před 3 lety +1

      笑死我啦

    • @Benjie223
      @Benjie223 Před 3 lety +3

      You must be female TechLead

    • @johnl.7754
      @johnl.7754 Před 3 lety +1

      I think I saw on a early video a CZcams gold plaque so not sure if he had passed that mark earlier (and now fallen).

  • @starswish1392
    @starswish1392 Před 3 lety +181

    "people like us"😂😂😂I need his confidence

  • @TaleOfTwoIdiots
    @TaleOfTwoIdiots Před 9 měsíci +1

    Loved hearing your insight. I transitioned from technical writing to software engineering in 1999 and really enjoyed it for the first few years when we were actually creating something new. Then one company got bought by another and then another and gradually everything that made software development interesting and, arguably, “fun” was slowly replaced by bureaucracy, meetings that should have been eMails, etc.. I finally “retired” after 22 years, partly because our offices had been replaced by what amounted to a large kindergarten classroom, but also because the constant D&E messaging was beginning to make some of us feel downright unwelcome.
    Like you, I feel like the heyday of software engineering has passed. Yes, you can still make a living at it, but the days ofstock options and even merit-based compensation are gone.

  • @marielosjauregui9065
    @marielosjauregui9065 Před rokem +1

    l low key, love you, you keep it real, keep me grounded ty TechLead!

  • @juicebx283
    @juicebx283 Před rokem +7

    Honestly it's nice to hear the cons to pursuing this career. It does take a level of introvertedness to be able to stay on a computer for hours on end. And that race thing can impact you if you're not benefiting from it. However I'm a Latino from a poor city so I think I qualify for those race benefits. I also have spent every day for the past year doing school and practicing code through my computer without going out. I guess it's nice to know what can go wrong but if these things don't apply to me then it still leaves me desiring this career. I just want a remote job with $75k+ a year so hopefully I can do that and not encounter other issues such as burn out or competition

  • @galefraney
    @galefraney Před 3 lety +75

    Your words are an endless stream of consciousness steeped in in dry, wry humour that is delivered with impeccable timing, one slapstick, deadly funny sarcasm after another. Your channel has got to be one of the most entertaining on CZcams!! Whenever I visit your channel I know I’m going to be entertained to the max!!

  • @bloocifer
    @bloocifer Před 3 lety +172

    Techlead - "These people....they cant all sit at a computer for 12 hours a day.....they have things to do.....they have to go shopping and make a cupcake" lmaoooooo

  • @sublimedone790
    @sublimedone790 Před rokem +1

    I see the light, TechLead, thanks. I'll do my best.

  • @maxzorin9425
    @maxzorin9425 Před rokem +1

    WOW! It's wonderful to know that worked for you will work equally well for everyone. It would be so much more complex if people were individuals with individual skills, desires, and limitations.

  • @courtlaw1
    @courtlaw1 Před 2 lety +80

    I will say working in I.T having excellent communication skills, attention to detail and writing good documentation will go a long way. Using scripting to make your environment better is worth more than gold.

    • @the_bogeyman.
      @the_bogeyman. Před rokem

      IT is usually a very wide "department". There's so much stuff to know to get a job in IT that is scary, but I hear people getting into IT even with not much PC knowledge at all.
      It is quite complicated to prioritise what to learn for me, even HR don't really know what to tell me to try land a job there, or maybe I am getting too old and they quietly don't care.
      I do IT courses after my warehouse work because learn something seems better than learn nothing to me, and I keep myself busy.

  • @hqs9585
    @hqs9585 Před rokem

    Great perspective, thanks for sharing

  • @greedyrumpirate6697
    @greedyrumpirate6697 Před rokem

    Your videos are thought provoking and real. Had to subscribe.

  • @sheercold26
    @sheercold26 Před 3 lety +298

    This guy is low-key the funniest guy on youtube lol

  • @chrisbanach
    @chrisbanach Před 2 lety +171

    it's like saying "why try to become a cook (and potentially a chef) when the masses eat at McDonald's and all you need to learn is flip burgers". What about learning to serve those who eat a Michelin starred restaurants? There's true value in being in a niche, no matter the industry or skill set.

    • @patrickspens497
      @patrickspens497 Před 2 lety +29

      sure but his advice isn't for those who both have the knack and want to create something new. It is for the other 90% who get into it as a kind of employment insurance

    • @uclajd
      @uclajd Před 2 lety +1

      LOL have you ever seen the razor thin margins in restaurants? And that was before covid killed most of them.

    • @OfficialGrafixM
      @OfficialGrafixM Před 2 lety +3

      @@patrickspens497 Right, because if 50% of earth population start software development then it means we will have at least one unique software for atmost 2 users. Great business idea LOL. Instead what we should do is try to discover the other fields where the world needs more people. Like in food industry, climate/environment care organizations, physics, medicine etc. But it seems like every other guy wants to become a millionaire programmer.

    • @guillermomazzari4983
      @guillermomazzari4983 Před 2 lety +4

      @@OfficialGrafixM Most people that start a programing or CS career don't finish it, out of those who finish, only about 50% get a job, and of that 50% only like 50% keep active in coding after 5 years, it's like that in most carriers, and of that small last group, the majority will settle to junior or mid-level jobs, the difficult part is to get in, and survive the first 3-5 years, after that, if your good, you'll be of the selected group who can really be called successful programmers.

  • @eugeniurotri9354
    @eugeniurotri9354 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you, mr. TechLead! Great video and thank for shining some light on this problem. I’m looking into switching to tech career /me=44/ trying to figure my way..

  • @d.w.714
    @d.w.714 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for your honesty 🎉

  • @thepunisherxxx6804
    @thepunisherxxx6804 Před 2 lety +290

    In-between the jokes, trolling, and snark there are some really wise insights here. Id be lying if I said money was not my primary motivation, but next up is just that feeling you get when a function comes together and works, you finally fix an issue you've been looking at for awhile, or when it clicks and you understand a complex new concept you've been trying to learn. Its brief happiness, and a sense of fulfillment and confidence that lasts for a day or 2. That part is pretty nice at least for me.

    • @jacoboyvalentinajugandorob3308
      @jacoboyvalentinajugandorob3308 Před 2 lety +1

      Of course, that feeling is something that you need, is difficult of explain, so, if you don't feel like coding, you better don't take this way, he also said, it's a lonely career. However, if you can ask this thing without fear, then you are a programer... at least it is my conclusion.

    • @desertstonestudio3315
      @desertstonestudio3315 Před 2 lety +9

      I kinda feel the same way with learning 3D animation and dabbling in python. The thrill of seeing your creation come alive.

    • @thepunisherxxx6804
      @thepunisherxxx6804 Před 2 lety +8

      @@desertstonestudio3315 Yeah man its primal I think, just seeing the fruits of your labor whatever it is. Its great.

    • @i-dkz
      @i-dkz Před 2 lety

      I started going to school to try and pursue cybersecurity (purely because im decent with tech and it sounds cool and pays a lot) and i needed to take software development courses in order to even qualify for that. I ended up realizing that programming is actually so fun. For the exact same reasons you listed here. Now i literally do it for fun

    • @richardrodriguez7097
      @richardrodriguez7097 Před 2 lety

      You definitely nailed it 👌

  • @mickyelmb
    @mickyelmb Před 2 lety +765

    Thanks for keeping it real. I am a programmer with 15 years of experience. I enjoy programming and problem solving, but I hate the business side of the job. Meetings, email, dealing with the business unit especially when they are whinny and demanding. I like the working at the computer and creating something cool. Anyone doing it just to make lots of money is an incentive but will eventually leave you feeling empty and disenchanted. Do what you love and be happy regardless of how much money is on the table.

    • @armeddeafboi7276
      @armeddeafboi7276 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ChristophBackhaus its interesting how you make coding to be a media for art. I used to be an artist but now im thinking about coding as I like figuring out how things work. I actually enjoy making cool stuff that is functional so this might be the job I need.

    • @isaiahnedd434
      @isaiahnedd434 Před 2 lety +21

      That's why you need God and your family

    • @muskanasudani729
      @muskanasudani729 Před 2 lety +7

      i just have a question ... what do i do if i dont know what i love

    • @mickyelmb
      @mickyelmb Před 2 lety +17

      @@muskanasudani729 That's a good question. I've been looking all my life and at 61 years old I'm still looking for things that I enjoy doing. There is no easy answer some people start out knowing with they wont and some spend a life time looking. One thing for certain is you wont find it if you don't look. Just look something that excites you then try it and if you decide you don't like it start looking for something else.

    • @muskanasudani729
      @muskanasudani729 Před 2 lety +6

      @@mickyelmb Thank you so much !

  • @keithmccharles7571
    @keithmccharles7571 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video. Love your candor and sense of humor.

  • @StressBald
    @StressBald Před rokem +1

    I am thankful for this video. I have a decade of sales and customer service experience on a variety of products and I want to transition into Software because I feel too nerdy for the life I’m currently in. 5-15k a month is nice but everyone in sales is superficial, all about showing off, and all about small talk and bsing. I grew up a gamer and on my days off I’m a hermit on his game and laptop.
    I am 70% through Harvards CS50P course new This year. Pretty sweet and I’m liking Python so far! Picked up some other 0-100 courses on Udemy for JavaScript, React, and MySQL. Going to hope to land a JR dev spot anywhere I can to get my foot in the door self taught. I’m hoping that being fully bilingual, well spoken, personable, and able to communicate my ideas in a simplified manner will help.
    But this video made me WANT to do it. Because I have the supplementary skills and am a nerd at heart. Remote work that isn’t people facing sounds like a dream. Idc about the cars girls and beaches. Just the solitude and salary alone would be great!

  • @RamaSivamani
    @RamaSivamani Před 2 lety +381

    Your looking at 500k or more senior software engineers. However, if someone is comfortable with a 75k + salary and their preferred lifestyle does not demand more than that income wise then you can get to a 75k+ salary job as a programmer pretty quickly. I used 75K because that clearly puts you in top 1/3 of income in the US. If 75k is what you need to live the lifestyle you want programming would be a good choice. There are very few other fields where a 22 year old right out of college is going to pull 75k+ as a starting salary.

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 Před 2 lety +48

      Coding is like being a semi truck driver.. it pays good but the work / personal life balance is hell. Instead of reporting to one boss every client and each level of management of the project will be a thorn over petty or unrealistic expectations. Sure, you could work 80+ hrs week to meet deadline but how will your significant other and children accept this? Sometimes the simple things in life are the most cherished that money can't buy as in seeing your kid compete and keeping those promises to actually showing up at the finals. Yet, at that moment you'll have 20+ bosses up you butt stressing deadlines as the client was aiming for a moonshot lottery winning complete program or become bankrupt. Which, is life or death in their view.

    • @keylanoslokj1806
      @keylanoslokj1806 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Cerberus984 cant be a programmer with 50 hours work per week?

    • @sacredgeometry
      @sacredgeometry Před 2 lety +5

      @@keylanoslokj1806 Not a competitive one. Not at the start no.

    • @mikeswierczek
      @mikeswierczek Před 2 lety +36

      @@Cerberus984 there are a lot of boring business coding jobs out there that don't pay like Facebook and Google but don't require crazy hours either. I've been a developer for 20 years and my average work week across my career is below 45 hours.

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 Před 2 lety +12

      @@mikeswierczek My intent isn't discouraging people getting into coding but a more realistic perspective as technical trade schools and colleges have a financial incentive to candy coat the opportunities.
      We're competing globally for the same supply of gigs to be completed in a field where remote working is rapidly growing. Gotta find that protection whether it be security clearance based job or moving to a lower cost of living country to get paid less but take home more in pocket after overhead.

  • @Oblivliz
    @Oblivliz Před 2 lety +69

    "Gotta go to the beach, go to the park, make a cupcake..." - I'm not gonna lie, that was the best part of this video hands down. Just a genius level programmer looking at everyone and being like, "I don't know hot to tell you all this, but y'all are basic." 😂

  • @digitalmaven.Berlin
    @digitalmaven.Berlin Před rokem

    Thanks for your point of view it helped me alot in deciding wich path not to take.

  • @neiloboidicin5815
    @neiloboidicin5815 Před rokem +4

    I am a serial entrepreneur.... a passion for bringing my ideas to life.. I never wanted to code. The thought of the frustration of your whole system not working because one comma was out of place scared me off. This video is honest. Well done.
    Good coders are hard to find and are the key to any startup's success. Getting the wrong coders will most likely make you fail. So, its crucial to have a good knowledge of software development to identify the right coder for your team, but don't get sucked in.. In the middle of my fist project, I did a masters in web technologies for this very purpose, but steered clear of coding. I did get into front end design as it helped accelerate and visualise my ideas, and I do use no-code (Figma and Pxcode***).
    Your job as an entrepreneur is to make your company work, get money in, get sales, and promote... its NOT coding or managing a team. I have made these mistakes and am sharing so maybe you won't have to... Best of luck, whatever you do.
    BTW... Pxcode is brilliant, but it lacks video instruction and support. It took me a week to master (80% proficient) and it dishes out React or HTML code based on your designs. I'm well impressed.

  • @alexiparis3244
    @alexiparis3244 Před 2 lety

    This was great knowledge you shared, thanks

  • @TheAnimeist
    @TheAnimeist Před 3 lety +53

    TechLead, The combination of nerd and philosopher. This explains the effortless humor.

  • @cloudietech5825
    @cloudietech5825 Před 3 lety +64

    Next video: why you should not earn money (as a millionaire)

  • @Sanguen666
    @Sanguen666 Před 8 měsíci +1

    man this guy is a genius.

  • @MohammadaAprilianto
    @MohammadaAprilianto Před rokem +1

    thanks for sharing my friend. im starting to get bored doing coding too. especially here in Indonesia, programmers didn't paid well

  • @techbrother5815
    @techbrother5815 Před 3 lety +311

    So relaxing as always.
    Who else thinks the bragging part is always the best? 😂😂😂
    "I live your dream. Ohh yea"
    "You thought we were on the same level, but in reality, I'm up there"
    🤣🤣

    • @admjavier8527
      @admjavier8527 Před 3 lety +5

      Hahahaha he is so goddamn honest bruuuhh!

    • @temple134
      @temple134 Před 3 lety +7

      I love honesty; brings us straight to reality

    • @calliopeshif7581
      @calliopeshif7581 Před 3 lety +1

      @@admjavier8527 lol are you joking?

    • @WarrenCinco
      @WarrenCinco Před 3 lety +2

      "I'm pretty smart..." 😆

    • @JERRY-oh6jd
      @JERRY-oh6jd Před 3 lety +3

      @@calliopeshif7581 all hes saying are facts doe 600k a year like damn

  • @doge9203
    @doge9203 Před 3 lety +49

    so learning how to code now is like learning history.

  • @wogutierrez1914
    @wogutierrez1914 Před 2 lety +2

    I wanted to tell you I appreciated very much your honesty. True to some the way you speak might not be good but I can really see that you are honest and that honesty is what we all need. Thank you for the advice about how to put work and not to focus too much in the tools we use to accomplish the work. Kids listen please. There are a lot of good careers there and to be happy you need more than a good job even TeachLead have said so. Family life and personal grow is important and more important of all. Search for God. Thank you TeachLead I wish you the best.

  • @mrperfectcell1350
    @mrperfectcell1350 Před rokem

    I just found this channel. Man I stumbled upon a goldmine. This guy is awesome.

  • @7th_CAV_Trooper
    @7th_CAV_Trooper Před 2 lety +72

    During a code review a junior dev says to me, "OMG how did you write so much code in just one day?" I answered, "I started programming 40 years ago in 4th grade." Then I challenged him to snatch the pebble from my hand.

  • @mattsmith1126
    @mattsmith1126 Před 2 lety +115

    You are forgetting about coding in AI, Deep Learning, Robotics, VR, AR and high end gaming. These emerging fields pay well and need programmers. If you don't specialize and try to program business software and website you won't get paid anything.

    • @gergelybrunda
      @gergelybrunda Před 2 lety +17

      yeah, He burned out, and see his thoughts as the only truth, but being a programmer nowadays are still great as I see, just have to find your field and what you like the most.

    • @AmericanWithTheTruth
      @AmericanWithTheTruth Před 2 lety +8

      Future AI, Deep Learning, Robotics, VR, AR and high end gaming not going to pay you today. So you seem to have contradicted yourself. And yes I agree the only paying fields today are pretty much business software websites. The rest are just buzz techno babble words. Trust me... been hearing it for 2 decades now. They all come and go. If you find any of those allusive jobs today, chances are you have a million resumes in front of you also applying.

    • @Naomi-xu4hq
      @Naomi-xu4hq Před 2 lety +10

      @@AmericanWithTheTruth that’s what every job looks like aside from the underpaying labor/governmental ones. The truth is that you don’t need to make 6 figures farting out to live a nice lifestyle (unless you’re dumb and moved to a large smelly city) younger people complain about not being able to buy homes like boomers did but don’t realize that they’re trying to buy a 3,000 sq ft home with 2020 amenities while their grandparents had 500-600 sq ft Homes that we’re several years old

    • @iZephiroth
      @iZephiroth Před 2 lety +1

      Blockchain as well. 🙂

    • @jkane764
      @jkane764 Před 2 lety

      @@AmericanWithTheTruth "And yes I agree the only paying fields today are pretty much business software websites" - what is the best Business Software Website?

  • @5velmusic
    @5velmusic Před rokem

    Thank you for posting! This made me laugh out loud so many times! Very informative and funny. Just pressed the subscribe button.

  • @drditup
    @drditup Před rokem

    im a researcher and i learn to code exactly what i need to know, and every now and then i run into errors and bugs and i figure them out. this is way more efficient in teaching myself to code than any course with nice prepackaged labs or miniprojects. sure, thats good for entry-level coding, but becoming better always means a project, running into a wall and figuring out how to get over it. Reproducing classification results gave different outcomes and i ended up reading about non-linear filters and transformations and how to reset rng seed solve it. and it was interesting, and i pursued something important.

  • @everydayhustling
    @everydayhustling Před 3 lety +156

    As a current tech lead I would recommend learning coding for a number of reasons. But I would not recommend it as a long term career. Maybe out of college before you start a family. Make as much $$ as you can and learn as much as you can... then branch out into something else. Like CZcams

    • @pokyparachute3262
      @pokyparachute3262 Před 3 lety +3

      Why’s that?

    • @moogmush4436
      @moogmush4436 Před 3 lety +5

      @@user-xu7ev9my3d wait why you impersonating

    • @NewBlueType
      @NewBlueType Před 3 lety +7

      Why not as a long term career?

    • @afiasheikh416
      @afiasheikh416 Před 3 lety +16

      imagine, 2 billion people making CZcams videos with almost half of them on food channels.. and one day, CZcams dies...

    • @Video-Games-Are-Fun
      @Video-Games-Are-Fun Před 3 lety +7

      then get outsourced to an H1B visa guy from india who YOU teach your job and then promptly become unemployed. yeah, great idea

  • @saltyroe3179
    @saltyroe3179 Před 2 lety +311

    I agree. Back in the 1970s when I learned to code, the computer was more expensive than programmers. I got promoted because of my ability to work with users and customers in their own terms and write specifications that both the customer and the programmers could understand. I only coded if it was faster for me to code than explain and control the coding process. This led me to be recognized as a problem solver by executive management. Eventually coding became something I did at home for fun. I stopped learning new languages because their was a faster way to get things than coding. Maybe this all goes back to my childhood intent to be an efficiency expert. Coding was a tool in a vast array of ever more and better tools. Learning coding is like learning geometry, it is good for disciplining the mind.

  • @leecherlarry
    @leecherlarry Před 2 lety +1

    i totally liked the video!! highly enjoyable chat. TechLead is a wise funny young man.

  • @ChukDmytro
    @ChukDmytro Před rokem

    Totally agree with all wording. Your video make some thoughts in my brain ) TY!