Mr Davies gives a historical account on the roots of modernism & what Pope St Pius X did to combat it. For more please visit catholicaudio.blogspot.com/200...
We most certainly are in grave need of Mr.Davies during this time of confounding confusion, turmoil and upheaval in our Church. His common sense and clear headedness are sorely missed.
A great talk - I met Michael years ago. So much has happened since this talk was given. I visited Michael’s grave in Chislehurst recently. Thank you for posting.
I had heard his voice. I heard his name mentioned, I saw he thrashed Dr Jones in a debate. This is like sweet nectar. I didn't know of his passing so I shall grieve and give thanks. Amen
The talk of Michael is highly enlightening to understand the present state of the Roman Catholic Church.We must fight without reservation for the preservation of the Roman Catholic Doctrine which is its essence.
That’s somewhere along the lines of Napoleon that was roughly, “history is a lie agreed upon.” Nietzsche went a step further and replaced “history” with “truth.”
When I found Father Martin on CZcams I found the reasons of what has happened to our Catholic Church and the Mass. Michael Davies explained even better.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 exactly. And in Quo Primum Pope Pius the 5th infallibly decreed and made binding that the Latin Mass was the true right of the Church, and that no alterations could be made to it and any whether Pope bishop or priest who did so would incur the penalty of self excommunication. He also granted all priests the rights to forever say it and they could not be rescinded by any Pope or Bishop. That is what the Church says it is, this is what the Church has always said, and it will never change.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 sorry you are wrong, decrees that are declared infallible and binding cannot be reversed. Quo Primum was declared infallible and binding, therefore it cannot be reversed.
Please correct the following: the image displayed in the video, from minute 37 and onwards purporting it to be an image of Afred Loisy, modernist, is NOT of Loisy but of the famous catholic and very orthodox biblical scholar Marie-Joseph Lagrange, o.p., of the Ecole biblique de Jérusalem. this can simply and objectively be corroborated from the foto itself as a dominican friar can put on the cap of his vestment of the order of the preachers and it will be the white cap you see in the photo on display. Now Loisy was never a dominican and never wore such a cap. It can also be verified by searching the internet for Marie-Joseph Lagrange, o.p., while the photo will then be correctly seen as to whom it belongs.
We all need to listen to this eloquent speaker if we want to see a decent world instead of making oneself higher than God. If we continue to criticize religion we will have distorted men who find it a game to dehumanize humanity.
Modernism - Michael Trehane Davies, thank you for enlightening how Christianity turned into atheism and destruction of human reason .....now people can commit unimaginable homicides and display on the Facebook or on the www web for destruction of human race. Life has no meaning and people can boast of their abuse of sanctity of life.
Davies's scholarship has fed my desire for learning "how did this happen". The father of lies has been working on men's souls through pride and arrogance. " I will not serve" is spoken over and over.....
If one were to really grasp the TRUTH of Mr. Davies' talk one would never be satisfied by just calling it "a great talk". One would shout it from the roof-tops! .. be deemed "nuts" by all passersby.
All lies the lies of a Pope office and cardinals, no such office's in new testament. If peter was the rock then why 2 epistles of Peter, and jesus remark to Mary regards john as her son, not Peter!!!. Jesus said call no man our father or rabbi. Vicar of Christ is not biblical, the holy Spirit was the teacher and comforter , not a vicar of Christ
Our archbishop seem to believe that the women (bread crumbs eaten by little dog thing) *"made Christ (the man) realize"* that his mission of salvation would also include the gentiles. HIGHLY heretical, based on what the Church have always taught, regarding the divinity of Christ. It was of NO SURPRISE that I later found out that this belief is shared by James Martin, the pro-gay Jesuit priest who -- let's be honest -- would've already been excommunicated for something like this, a few pontificates back. God help the Church! Help us get RID of modernism.
@@Irishandtired Pius X was a reactionary who created an oath against Modernism and a witch hunt to spy these people out. It was up to Benedict XV to do away with this oath.
@Lavrov Yaboy Pope Pius X was a reactionary and paranoid man. He did a disservice to the Catholic Church by looking for modernists under the bushes and by making people take a fidelity oath. Did you know that Pope John XXIII after becoming pope had seen his file from the C.D.C. which had labeled him a modernist? One of the most ecumenical popes of the twentieth century a modernist. As for your idea, if ignorance I vehemently disagree with you, I read and well aware of what things are. You have a right to your opinion as I have to mine."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life",
@Lavrov Yaboy How could Monsignor Montini later Paul VI be Pius XII, assistant secretary and work for the CIA. In the years after the council, Paul had to balance between progressive and conservative wings of the Church. He did an admirable job even in the midst of the turbulent 1960s. You had mentioned Leo XIII and Pius XI but what of John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI two good and holy men. I have read Benedict XVI's books on the Life of Christ which I think are better than Romano Guardini's book on the Lord. Joseph Ratzinger has been one of the main intellectual forces in the twentieth and twenty-first century and he is no reactionary.
@@tomkelly4336 John XXIII was a modernist. Ecumenism is modernist. Pius warned us that the church would apologize for wrongs she did not commit. John XXIII was very popular with jews, Protestants and even atheists but he drew none of them to the church. He refused to reveal the 3rd secret of Fatima.
@@jackdarby2168, it's a belief that things such as virtues do not really exist in reality, but are only arbitrary names that people have invented or agreed upon for certain phenomena. It practically denies that there's real spiritual knowledge and limits man to the literal words of the Bible and personal interpretations.
@@seriouscat2231 Gotcha. I heard someone suggest that Political Correctness is, from a philosophical sense, a type of moral nominalism. So nominalism must mean then in an ultimate sense and in practice a profound disconnection between reality and how we use words to express them
The modernist view of the Magisterium as "the collective conscience of the 'faithful' is nothing more than the 'primacy of conscience', ie. 'my pride in determining how I will relate to my god.' That is, like satan; "I will not serve.."
The authority of the Magisterium does not reside with V2 which refused it or with Pope Francis who refused the title of Vicar of Christ? While not quite declared here, it is implied. If we deny one truth, we deny them all. There's lots of implications from that one.
That God is not merely immanent does mean that he is not in us, as well as above us. St. Augustine teaches this clearly. What Michael Davies teaches here strikes me as sincere, but it does not have the profundity that is necessary to really help to distinguish modernism from what is not modernism.
As uneducated man . God comes to lowly because of pride. Would it be possible for highly educated person able to turn from his reasoning and not gods . The more a man scientifically evolves the more he dies spiritually to find one is very rare unless he is christain that is.
As Catholics we do not know that God created everything in six days and that the earth is only a few thousand years old. The official position of the church actually accepts evolution and the big bang as possible theories. The "six day" position is largely protestant and is particularly associated with protestant fundamentalism (which I diametrically oppose). There is also great and legitimate debate regard the use and meaning of "day," which could represent considerably longer periods than 24 hours. I am not picking a fight; however, we cannot make simple assumptions in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. I am certain, however, that we have souls, we are saved through the crucifixion and resurrection ( and the supper of the lamb), and receive grace through the sacraments.
I hear what your saying ,but that's for debate ,and unless you have a crystal ball REALLY there is no answer ,its not important ,however its nice to know how others think ,as long as your solid in truth (james kirk)
This preacher seems highly in favor of the type of religious intolerance that is leading many to reject religion as a whole. Pius X was not worried about people leaving the faith. he was worried about the Church losing authority. It is religious authority itself that many see as a type of tyranny to be banished to the ash heap. Sadly this type of tyranny still exists in places like Saudi Arabia. Which ironically is a chief ally of the US. It will be a welcome day when all forms of intolerance, both religious and civil are a thing of the past.
Do you seek a world without authority, without order, without faith? The speaker is talking precisely and exclusively about the Roman Catholic Church, the Church. The protestant and other churches/religions offer any choice of belief that you could want and, if you don't like any of them, you can always start your own church. When you can believe in anything, you believe in nothing.
Correction there are other religious practices just as intolerant as the old Church was. Islam is chief among them. Many of the draconian Muslim laws(some refer it as Sharia) enforced in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran , and others are very similar to old Church dogmas. Hopefully there will come a day when Islam undergoes the same overhaul as the Church has been trying to do recently.
Catholicism has never forbidden other religions the way Saudi Arabia has done and salafis argue for. Even in the darkest hours of Catholicism there were legal believers of other religions in Catholic jurisdictions.
There has been ALMOST perfect religious liberty in Catholic Poland since Middle Ages. Jews were settling down in large numbers and in 18th century 3/4 of the world's Jewry lived in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
We most certainly are in grave need of Mr.Davies during this time of confounding confusion, turmoil and upheaval in our Church. His common sense and clear headedness are sorely missed.
A great talk - I met Michael years ago. So much has happened since this talk was given. I visited Michael’s grave in Chislehurst recently. Thank you for posting.
One could listen to this many times, & continue to learn something new.
great man and brilliant teaching....may he rest in peace!
I'm proud to say that Michael (RIP) was a very good friend.
I met him a few times and i must say he was a wonderful man . You are very fortunate indeed to have counted him among your friends .
I'm looking to connect with good Catholics personally. Are there any sources you can reference to me?
I wish i could have met him. God bless him!
I had heard his voice. I heard his name mentioned, I saw he thrashed Dr Jones in a debate. This is like sweet nectar. I didn't know of his passing so I shall grieve and give thanks. Amen
@@uncatila Which Dr. Jones are you referring to and what was the topic?
Thank God for Michael Davies ! What a faithful Catholic May his soul rest in peace..
this talk never gets old.
ha, i get it😁
Santiago james Haha, so true! I’ve been going through his videos over and over every several months. Love this man!
thank you very much for taking the time to educate us.
This talk is a master piece.
Fantastic talk, more relevant now than ever. Thanks for uploading this gem.
The talk of Michael is highly enlightening to understand the present state of the Roman Catholic Church.We must fight without reservation for the preservation of the Roman Catholic Doctrine which is its essence.
Michael Davies....what a brilliant Catholic man....🤝....God bless his soul....✌👍
I just discovered him a few days back. I’ve took the time to look up more of his discussions.
44:15 "[Objective] Truth consists in the conformity of an idea with its object". Wow!!! What a quotable quote! Nice 👌
That’s somewhere along the lines of Napoleon that was roughly, “history is a lie agreed upon.” Nietzsche went a step further and replaced “history” with “truth.”
Malachi Martin and Michael T. Davies are right ; the Orthodoxy of Latin Mass is the true rite of Holy Mass.
It is what the church says it is.
When I found Father Martin on CZcams I found the reasons of what has happened to our Catholic Church and the Mass. Michael Davies explained even better.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 exactly. And in Quo Primum Pope Pius the 5th infallibly decreed and made binding that the Latin Mass was the true right of the Church, and that no alterations could be made to it and any whether Pope bishop or priest who did so would incur the penalty of self excommunication. He also granted all priests the rights to forever say it and they could not be rescinded by any Pope or Bishop.
That is what the Church says it is, this is what the Church has always said, and it will never change.
@@Steve_Milo not infallibly through. The Roman curia can reverse prior decrees.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 sorry you are wrong, decrees that are declared infallible and binding cannot be reversed. Quo Primum was declared infallible and binding, therefore it cannot be reversed.
"On the Doctrines of the Modernists" and "The Syllabus of Errors" are essential encyclicals for our time.
Please correct the following: the image displayed in the video, from minute 37 and onwards purporting it to be an image of Afred Loisy, modernist, is NOT of Loisy but of the famous catholic and very orthodox biblical scholar Marie-Joseph Lagrange, o.p., of the Ecole biblique de Jérusalem. this can simply and objectively be corroborated from the foto itself as a dominican friar can put on the cap of his vestment of the order of the preachers and it will be the white cap you see in the photo on display. Now Loisy was never a dominican and never wore such a cap. It can also be verified by searching the internet for Marie-Joseph Lagrange, o.p., while the photo will then be correctly seen as to whom it belongs.
We all need to listen to this eloquent speaker if we want to see a decent world instead of making oneself higher than God. If we continue to criticize religion we will have distorted men who find it a game to dehumanize humanity.
Modernism - Michael Trehane Davies, thank you for enlightening how Christianity turned into atheism and destruction of human reason .....now people can commit unimaginable homicides and display on the Facebook or on the www web for destruction of human race. Life has no meaning and people can boast of their abuse of sanctity of life.
Agreed. Dehumanizing humanity is unfortunately rearing its ugly head today (i.e. mass shootings, full term abortions) :( God have mercy on us all.
So good, and so relevant.
This has to be several y erars old. but still relevant. Thanks.
How long is a "y erar"?
You're quite the modern technical man Luigi. You didn't get much from this video, did you?
Lol
Reading O'Connell's book Critics on Trial. This lecture is most informative and helpful to synthesizing that book. Thank you!
Wow!, This is wonderful!!
Very well done
Thanks!
How wonderful sounds the Psalm in English...
Always good to hear Michael Davies voice again.
Great! Thank you for sharing :).
Wonderful talk. I just wish there were more people like him speaking the truth no matter the cost.
exceptional speech.
THANKU BEAUTIFUL Fr.🎺
From 35:00 : this is not Abbé Loisy, but fr. Marie-Joseph Lagrange OP !
Would have loved to have known him. A great man of the Church. RIP.
Lovely accent....sounds like a real Catholic Gentleman.!
St. Piux X, ora pro nobis hodie!
The picture of the man in the hood is not Loisy but Marie-Joseph Lagrange
Your welcome. Just wanted to be accurate.
It would be correct to change the picture with the real picture of Alfred Loisy which is available online.
So interesting! I have to read the book now
May Michael rest in peace.
Its chilling to leasing to it. I wonder what he will say today??...
Estos temas casi no aparecen en lengua española, pero gracias a Dios por permitirme estudiar el modernismo de manera objetiva.
Thanks!
Thanks be to God
When and where was this lecture given. Thanks.
Davies's scholarship has fed my desire for learning "how did this happen". The father of lies has been working on men's souls through pride and arrogance. " I will not serve" is spoken over and over.....
If one were to really grasp the TRUTH of Mr. Davies' talk one would never be satisfied by just calling it "a great talk".
One would shout it from the roof-tops! .. be deemed "nuts" by all passersby.
All lies the lies of a Pope office and cardinals, no such office's in new testament. If peter was the rock then why 2 epistles of Peter, and jesus remark to Mary regards john as her son, not Peter!!!. Jesus said call no man our father or rabbi. Vicar of Christ is not biblical, the holy Spirit was the teacher and comforter , not a vicar of Christ
Our archbishop seem to believe that the women (bread crumbs eaten by little dog thing) *"made Christ (the man) realize"* that his mission of salvation would also include the gentiles. HIGHLY heretical, based on what the Church have always taught, regarding the divinity of Christ. It was of NO SURPRISE that I later found out that this belief is shared by James Martin, the pro-gay Jesuit priest who -- let's be honest -- would've already been excommunicated for something like this, a few pontificates back.
God help the Church! Help us get RID of modernism.
Can anybody suggest any reading or books about this topic? thanks
Yet whoever we assign to interpret the magisterium, ought we not assume that they must do so in harmony and in accordance with right reason?
Good (St. Pope Pius X) vs. evil!
No, The Holy Spirit vs evil.
@@Irishandtired Pius X was a reactionary who created an oath against Modernism and a witch hunt to spy these people out. It was up to Benedict XV to do away with this oath.
@Lavrov Yaboy Pope Pius X was a reactionary and paranoid man. He did a disservice to the Catholic Church by looking for modernists under the bushes and by making people take a fidelity oath. Did you know that Pope John XXIII after becoming pope had seen his file from the C.D.C. which had labeled him a modernist? One of the most ecumenical popes of the twentieth century a modernist. As for your idea, if ignorance I vehemently disagree with you, I read and well aware of what things are. You have a right to your opinion as I have to mine."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life",
@Lavrov Yaboy How could Monsignor Montini later Paul VI be Pius XII, assistant secretary and work for the CIA. In the years after the council, Paul had to balance between progressive and conservative wings of the Church. He did an admirable job even in the midst of the turbulent 1960s. You had mentioned Leo XIII and Pius XI but what of John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI two good and holy men. I have read Benedict XVI's books on the Life of Christ which I think are better than Romano Guardini's book on the Lord. Joseph Ratzinger has been one of the main intellectual forces in the twentieth and twenty-first century and he is no reactionary.
@@tomkelly4336 John XXIII was a modernist. Ecumenism is modernist. Pius warned us that the church would apologize for wrongs she did not commit. John XXIII was very popular with jews, Protestants and even atheists but he drew none of them to the church. He refused to reveal the 3rd secret of Fatima.
Modernism heresy direct outgrowth of nominalism.
What is nominalism?
@@jackdarby2168, it's a belief that things such as virtues do not really exist in reality, but are only arbitrary names that people have invented or agreed upon for certain phenomena. It practically denies that there's real spiritual knowledge and limits man to the literal words of the Bible and personal interpretations.
@@seriouscat2231 Gotcha. I heard someone suggest that Political Correctness is, from a philosophical sense, a type of moral nominalism. So nominalism must mean then in an ultimate sense and in practice a profound disconnection between reality and how we use words to express them
Mr. Davies died much too young.
Many speakers of TRUTH worldwide have died before their time.....many of these speakers of TRUTH lives were ended by diabolical means.....
@@loarnotoole36 For example, Gabriel Gregorio Fernando José María García Moreno y Morán de Butrón.
What year was this talk given?
Sometimes in the 90s
The modernist view of the Magisterium as "the collective conscience of the 'faithful' is nothing more than the 'primacy of conscience', ie. 'my pride in determining how I will relate to my god.' That is, like satan; "I will not serve.."
Amen
If something can't stand up to criticism, then perhaps it is suspect.
Harnack, Bultmann(Lutheran Biblical theologian /Demythologization), Kung( Ecclesiology) Schillebex,( Dominican Biblical theologian ) Erasmus( rationalist).
♥️
The authority of the Magisterium does not reside with V2 which refused it or with Pope Francis who refused the title of Vicar of Christ? While not quite declared here, it is implied. If we deny one truth, we deny them all. There's lots of implications from that one.
Did he refuse the title of Vicar of Christ because he knows he is not the true vicar and that pope benedict xiv is stilt be the true vicar?
I.KNEW U SOUNDED LIKE RICHARD BURTON! 🙏
Me: searches name
Also me: wait a minute, this isnt me...
What a shame, in particular, that so many priests helped matastase this heresy.
That God is not merely immanent does mean that he is not in us, as well as above us. St. Augustine teaches this clearly. What Michael Davies teaches here strikes me as sincere, but it does not have the profundity that is necessary to really help to distinguish modernism from what is not modernism.
Modernism is generally clear because it is so obscure. It masks false teaching in words that seem true.
I HAVE THE BODY OF A PIG.
57:00 sounds a lot like today's modernists
How arrogant are these modernists!
As uneducated man . God comes to lowly because of pride. Would it be possible for highly educated person able to turn from his reasoning and not gods . The more a man scientifically evolves the more he dies spiritually to find one is very rare unless he is christain that is.
For me, it is my intellect and education that informs me of God.
The Big Bang began Time. How is that for beyond reason? Something does not come from Nothing.
Donna E Turner I don't think there was a big bang. As catholics we know God created everything in six days. 😀
Big bang assumes there was some energy and small amt of matter. Where did this come from?
As Catholics we do not know that God created everything in six days and that the earth is only a few thousand years old. The official position of the church actually accepts evolution and the big bang as possible theories. The "six day" position is largely protestant and is particularly associated with protestant fundamentalism (which I diametrically oppose). There is also great and legitimate debate regard the use and meaning of "day," which could represent considerably longer periods than 24 hours. I am not picking a fight; however, we cannot make simple assumptions in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. I am certain, however, that we have souls, we are saved through the crucifixion and resurrection ( and the supper of the lamb), and receive grace through the sacraments.
I hear what your saying ,but that's for debate ,and unless you have a crystal ball REALLY there is no answer ,its not important ,however its nice to know how others think ,as long as your solid in truth (james kirk)
Fair enough, thanks and have a nice day.
FAITH: THE UNHOLY TRINITY!?
Man have you ever listened to the Moody blues?
Lol
I would be more interested if he would occasionally speak to the New Testament Scriptures rather than the interpretations of a corrupt organization.
What man made sect do u belong to?
The whole world is corrupt and fallen.
He is not preaching a Sunday sermon nor doing biblical exegesis. Your point is still misplaced, four years on.
This preacher seems highly in favor of the type of religious intolerance that is leading many to reject religion as a whole. Pius X was not worried about people leaving the faith. he was worried about the Church losing authority. It is religious authority itself that many see as a type of tyranny to be banished to the ash heap. Sadly this type of tyranny still exists in places like Saudi Arabia. Which ironically is a chief ally of the US. It will be a welcome day when all forms of intolerance, both religious and civil are a thing of the past.
Do you seek a world without authority, without order, without faith?
The speaker is talking precisely and exclusively about the Roman Catholic Church, the Church. The protestant and other churches/religions offer any choice of belief that you could want and, if you don't like any of them, you can always start your own church.
When you can believe in anything, you believe in nothing.
john dow :so well put
Correction there are other religious practices just as intolerant as the old Church was. Islam is chief among them. Many of the draconian Muslim laws(some refer it as Sharia) enforced in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran , and others are very similar to old Church dogmas. Hopefully there will come a day when Islam undergoes the same overhaul as the Church has been trying to do recently.
Catholicism has never forbidden other religions the way Saudi Arabia has done and salafis argue for. Even in the darkest hours of Catholicism there were legal believers of other religions in Catholic jurisdictions.
There has been ALMOST perfect religious liberty in Catholic Poland since Middle Ages. Jews were settling down in large numbers and in 18th century 3/4 of the world's Jewry lived in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.