The Coolest Gun You Will See All Day: China's Type 64 Silenced Pistol

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    The Type 64 is a dedicated suppressed pistol first introduced in 1965 and used in the Vietnam War. It uses a rimless version of the .32 ACP cartridge (7.65x17mm) in a 9-round Makarov like magazine. Despite outward similarity to the Makarov (especially the grip), the design is wholly unique internally. It uses basically a miniaturized AK bolt to allow the shooter to select between blowback semiauto functioning and single shot manual operation. The bolts rotating locking lugs prevent it from cycling when locked, in a very clever alternative use of the rotating bolt system. The suppressor has two chambers, using a combination of baffles and wire mesh as suppressor elements. In addition to standard ammunition, a plastic-sabot frangible load was also developed for use in situations like airline hijackings, and this loading is why some sources reference a maximum effective range of 15 meters.
    For all its technical cleverness, the Type 64 is a rather heavy pistol, at 1.8kg / 4 pounds. It was replaced in 1967 by the substantially lighter and simpler Type 67, which weighed only 1.05kg / 2.3 pounds. This particular Type 64 was originally owned by Mitch Werbell III, giving it an even more interesting history…
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  • @Zombie1Boy
    @Zombie1Boy Před 3 lety +2136

    There needs to be a second channel, Forgotten Ammunitions, to go over all the various types of unique ammunitions designed for these guns.

    • @xZOOMARx
      @xZOOMARx Před 3 lety +175

      Bullets Back Then

    • @CarposPhilosophy
      @CarposPhilosophy Před 3 lety +57

      And to warn people a lot of these old ones are Novelties cuz they're impossible to find ammo for!

    • @Scuggish
      @Scuggish Před 2 lety +70

      Extinct Ammunition

    • @LuizOliveira-er6ly
      @LuizOliveira-er6ly Před 2 lety +39

      Cartridge Purgatory

    • @phant0m233
      @phant0m233 Před 2 lety +4

      @unskilled_ you're not wrong! There's quite a bit of history behind each ammo type.

  • @scoe5908
    @scoe5908 Před 3 lety +3485

    I'm sure they were used at the battle of Anchorage

    • @TheCrypto34
      @TheCrypto34 Před 3 lety +487

      I see you too are a man of culture.

    • @aldousfoxly
      @aldousfoxly Před 3 lety +187

      Glad I'm not the only one who thought it looked familiar...

    • @AGS363
      @AGS363 Před 3 lety +137

      They WILL be.

    • @loccky29
      @loccky29 Před 3 lety +444

      Death is a preferable alternative to communism

    • @themeatpopsicle
      @themeatpopsicle Před 3 lety +63

      @@loccky29 you sound like someone who lernt everything you need to know from yer daddy and never questioned any of it

  • @ddaman2442
    @ddaman2442 Před 3 lety +586

    Screwing in rather than out seems like a good way to NOT lose a screw.

    • @icewater6841
      @icewater6841 Před 3 lety +11

      crap I don’t know whether this is sarcastic or serious, sorry, I’m dumb

    • @ddaman2442
      @ddaman2442 Před 3 lety +56

      Not being sarcastic, just seems practical.

    • @kamenokami7947
      @kamenokami7947 Před 3 lety +25

      That's what I thought, that is actually a great idea for a set screw

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k Před 3 lety +11

      I just love it when I unscrew something and it falls

    • @coppertopv365
      @coppertopv365 Před 3 lety +1

      Sounds like a personal action

  • @100Underscores
    @100Underscores Před 3 lety +1357

    I'm not even a gun guy, but I love long form, high quality, informative videos with a host that isn't as annoying as shit. This ticks all the boxes

    • @user-cz3yk5qf7m
      @user-cz3yk5qf7m Před 3 lety +109

      Ian is a really awesome person. Knowledgeable, humble, and funny when the time is right. I really respect him.

    • @MarkLaLone
      @MarkLaLone Před 3 lety +59

      I wasn't a gun guy either, until I found Ian.

    • @timiertcm254
      @timiertcm254 Před 3 lety +18

      Actually I'd like to hear how quietly this gun fires...

    • @jamesbailey1908
      @jamesbailey1908 Před 3 lety +6

      That's what I love about this channel, it's informative and interesting but it's not "gun porn" in the sense its not circle jerking over a gun

    • @morgs456
      @morgs456 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jamesbailey1908 speak for yourself!
      "Ooooooo say mg42 Ian! Say it again!"
      *gutter noises*

  • @mkfreel
    @mkfreel Před 3 lety +528

    This is a quintessential Forgotten Weapon. I have never heard of, read about, or seen this gun before but now I love it.

    • @smokey3504
      @smokey3504 Před 3 lety +4

      Just how I felt about the Liberator shotgun. I'm suprised that thing never made it into any movies or games with how cool it looks

  • @HellbirdIV
    @HellbirdIV Před 3 lety +1845

    Been playing a lot of Fallout lately, and frankly that's the most Pre-War Fallout pistol I've ever seen.

    • @jimtheedcguy4313
      @jimtheedcguy4313 Před 3 lety +183

      I'd have to agree with you smooth skin.

    • @Scuggish
      @Scuggish Před 3 lety +122

      100 caps for it smoothskin

    • @Sergiblacklist
      @Sergiblacklist Před 3 lety +96

      Silenced Chinese pistol.

    • @Prizm17
      @Prizm17 Před 3 lety +2

      Lmaoooo

    • @HPSmugscraft
      @HPSmugscraft Před 3 lety +33

      Nah. The 10mm SMG is almost identical to that experimental HK SMG 1 and 2.

  • @PanzerMan332
    @PanzerMan332 Před 3 lety +653

    I didn't know China had a Replicant problem.

  • @oompalumpus699
    @oompalumpus699 Před 3 lety +3592

    Mass-produced Chinese stuff: Meh.
    Specially-made Chinese stuff: Coolest shit you won't believe.

    • @elijahaitaok8624
      @elijahaitaok8624 Před 3 lety +180

      "Coolest shit you wouldn't expect during the Great Leap Forward era" FIFY

    • @jesseterrell9354
      @jesseterrell9354 Před 3 lety +88

      Most of those shit was either borrowed or stolen design from other countries either allies or enemies

    • @magnuscoles5010
      @magnuscoles5010 Před 3 lety +548

      ​@@jesseterrell9354 like what everyone did?

    • @jesseterrell9354
      @jesseterrell9354 Před 3 lety +136

      kareem hashimi no not like everyone else. China takes it to a whole new level. Most of their military is copied from the Russians and even American designed vehicles of which they stole blueprints for . Things like the Hmvv, the Blackhawk helicopter, spy planes the list goes on. China is a giant threat to the world and is now showing its true colors.

    • @aghostofthepast
      @aghostofthepast Před 3 lety +387

      @@jesseterrell9354 What wrong with China doing this. They are doing whats best for their country in the most efficient way possible. Personally i think copying the successful ideas of others is a good idea when you are dealing with military stuff.

  • @FluffRat
    @FluffRat Před 3 lety +2130

    You've heard of a Chinese puzzle-box, now meet the Chinese puzzle-glocks.

    • @robw7205
      @robw7205 Před 3 lety +14

      lol, flawless

    • @tjbarke6086
      @tjbarke6086 Před 3 lety +49

      *begrudging applause*

    • @DavidBrown-cp2vm
      @DavidBrown-cp2vm Před 3 lety +1

      @ FluffRat - Brilliant !! Life is good.

    • @cubee4108
      @cubee4108 Před 3 lety

      Gunsmithing is hard and full of puzzle-solving.

    • @Tyiriel
      @Tyiriel Před 3 lety +1

      "The last puzzle™"

  • @Pcm979
    @Pcm979 Před 3 lety +385

    An AK bolt in a .32? Okay, I didn't see that coming.

    • @mariosebastiani3214
      @mariosebastiani3214 Před 3 lety +34

      Well, you also wouldn't HEAR it coming...

    • @ghostAI.com00
      @ghostAI.com00 Před 3 lety

      Pakistan zindabad
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    • @FalloutProto
      @FalloutProto Před 3 lety

      @Josh -_- Brandon Herrera

    • @Asuka.the.Perfectionistic
      @Asuka.the.Perfectionistic Před 3 lety

      @@mariosebastiani3214 lmao that's a good one

    • @drops2cents260
      @drops2cents260 Před 3 lety

      Pcm979
      > An AK bolt in a .32? Okay, I didn't see that coming.
      Well, there's an old engineer's saying which states: "If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid". :-)

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker Před 3 lety +117

    Another bonus to locking the action isnt just getting rid of the sound of the slide moving but also lets a shooter decide how handle their brass. After all if being sneaky you also do not want to leave a spent casing in the area where you took care of your mark.

    • @Psilomuscimol
      @Psilomuscimol Před 4 měsíci

      So pick it up

    • @conorjohn490
      @conorjohn490 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Psilomuscimolit's currently dark out

    • @KCCC326
      @KCCC326 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@Psilomuscimolsay you don't know without saying you don't know anything about shooting

  • @JohnDoe-rx3vn
    @JohnDoe-rx3vn Před 3 lety +14

    The set screw going IN to unlock the supressor is insanely clever. Completely solves the problem of a screw backing out

  • @Raven-Blackwing
    @Raven-Blackwing Před 3 lety +437

    Its nice to see you back at RIA.

    • @kvonkirk2340
      @kvonkirk2340 Před 3 lety +44

      oh no he never left! he's just been there so long he puts up different back drops and is pretending he's somewhere else in the world ;)

    • @RockIslandAuctionCompany
      @RockIslandAuctionCompany Před 3 lety +37

      Yes. Yes it is.

    • @icedogg111
      @icedogg111 Před 3 lety +2

      The genie is back in the bottle

    • @alberthofmann420
      @alberthofmann420 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RockIslandAuctionCompany It? I am pretty sure Ian defines himself as a "he"... :/

    • @erikjm100
      @erikjm100 Před 3 lety +2

      @@alberthofmann420 yes it is nice to see him... Not yes it is back... 🙄

  • @RockIslandAuctionCompany
    @RockIslandAuctionCompany Před 3 lety +202

    Give back my EDC.

    • @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven
      @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven Před 3 lety +12

      Hello, fellow time traveller.

    • @Wiromax3
      @Wiromax3 Před 3 lety +1

      you got to comment this a week ago?

    • @teraslythe
      @teraslythe Před 3 lety +11

      Kimmo_Sweden patreon man, they get first dibs

    • @Wiromax3
      @Wiromax3 Před 3 lety +3

      @@teraslythe
      Ah, that explains it.
      Thank you, I haven't had enough coffee yet when i wrote the comment.
      I need that caffeine kickstart to the brain! xD

  • @ogghostprepper9138
    @ogghostprepper9138 Před 3 lety +177

    -puts it together wrong
    -creates a loudener...

  • @jdjk7
    @jdjk7 Před 3 měsíci +2

    This pistol has got to have the highest proportion of "screws that don't work the way you would expect screws to work" of any gun Ian has looked at.

  • @AutumnsArmory
    @AutumnsArmory Před 3 lety +227

    How many screwdrivers were broken trying to "unscrew" those two screws.

    • @faulcondelacy5880
      @faulcondelacy5880 Před 3 lety +12

      "No Screwdrivers Were Harmed in the Making of This Video" lol

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS Před 3 lety +4

      I'm going to guess they took the time to train the 150 guys who were issued these.

    • @ootdega
      @ootdega Před 3 lety +12

      @@GunFunZS But not the subsequent owners of them. Look at the screws. Those are manhandle marks. I've caused marks like those with shitty screwdrivers before. Or shitty screws. Or both.

  • @lexdelaney2805
    @lexdelaney2805 Před 3 lety +1093

    That brass mesh, the expanded volume, low charge. That thing's gotta be whisper level quiet.

    • @browncoat697
      @browncoat697 Před 3 lety +313

      I wanna hear it shoot. Makes me wonder if it's like a Hollywood suppressor - just "fwip!"

    • @CutlassOutdoors
      @CutlassOutdoors Před 3 lety +107

      I bet it’s Hollywood quiet.

    • @Ninth_Penumbra
      @Ninth_Penumbra Před 3 lety +145

      Don't forget the .32 caliber, which has a pretty light noise - even without the suppressor. I'm curious about the copper mesh & how it might work...

    • @robertstrohmeyer8311
      @robertstrohmeyer8311 Před 3 lety +59

      @Sean Price or just fwsh. Little thing is a puzzle box to disassemble as far as I can say but id love to see/ hear it shoot.

    • @randomidiot8142
      @randomidiot8142 Před 3 lety +34

      Probably not that great. The .22 Ruger sneaky pistols used in this era have been rebuilt without mesh with newer baffles and work much better than before.

  • @pmp1337
    @pmp1337 Před 3 lety +96

    5:10 It's not only the noise. It is also, not leaving spent casings where you don't want them. Imagine you are out to assassinate a guy, you shoot and the casing goes flying somewhere. More so with a specific round. It's much better to know when you are ejecting so you can eject it to your pocket or something. And in case you fumble your first shot, you can while you eject the round, press the button and use semi-automatic fire.

    • @joshb6993
      @joshb6993 Před 2 lety +5

      Great point. That's a cool feature

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Před rokem +2

      Hmm, now I'm wondering if it would ever be practical to have some container/bag to catch brass as it's ejected. Not sure that would ever really be a good idea, but makes me wonder what it would look like if it was.

    • @1lovesoni
      @1lovesoni Před rokem +13

      @@TesserId that exact thing exist, they're called brass catchers. They're often a bit large and annoying but they do work pretty well.
      My favorite example though is the AR57, which is a conversion upper receiver for the AR15/M16 pattern rifle, it uses the P90's 50 round horizontal magazine and ejects the spent shells down through the AR15's normal magwell. However you can put a hollowed out AR mag in there to catch all the spent shells. Making it a great theoretical special-forces/spy weapon, because it shoots an armor peircing bullet, can be silenced, leaves no brass cases, and holds 50 rounds. If I was writing a James Bond type story, that's what I'd equip my protagonist with.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Před rokem +4

      @@1lovesoni Thanks for the response. I'll lookup brass catchers, but that sounds like something for a very finicky reloader at the range. ~~~ Also, I recently saw a Forgotten weapons vid about caseless ammo. Something tells me you saw that one too.

    • @TesserId
      @TesserId Před rokem +1

      @@1lovesoni O.K. Just looked up brass catcher. Clearly not a thing to hide traces of an assassination or such for spies. Could a spy really have a brass "bag" hidden in their leg? Sorry, joking aside, gotta shift back to the caseless ammo thing.

  • @DiamondCalibre
    @DiamondCalibre Před 3 lety +20

    I'm honestly a massive fan of all the screwdriver compatible switches and lugs. Stuff that doesn't screw out to be lost, but is clearly designed so the operator knows that its for disassembly and cleaning. Because what's a better way to show that something will take something apart than a big ol' phillips head screw.

    • @BigFatCone
      @BigFatCone Před 7 měsíci

      Sure, but this one doesn't use Philips head screws.

  • @durayenterprisesllc4440
    @durayenterprisesllc4440 Před 3 lety +88

    The advantage of this style slide lock rather than an external catch is that this can be cycled manually without having to manipulate a separate catch for each shot.

    • @alexv.d.h.7331
      @alexv.d.h.7331 Před 3 lety +12

      exactly, that's why they went trough the effort and cost of adding an ak style bolt.

    • @MtD021
      @MtD021 Před 3 lety +1

      Seems like a substantial increase in production cost though.

    • @alexv.d.h.7331
      @alexv.d.h.7331 Před 3 lety

      @@MtD021 yup, its not worth the effort so they replaced it pretty soon.

  • @DSlyde
    @DSlyde Před 3 lety +196

    Title should have been "the coolest gun you've never heard before"

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 Před 3 lety +12

      this, politics aside, China has been full of amazing engineers going back many thousands of years.
      Sometimes too good, enabling leaders to do more than they should; -coughs- Qin Shi Huangdi and his modern day doppelganger winnie....

    • @richardputz3233
      @richardputz3233 Před 3 lety +1

      Probably just forgot it.

    • @bodyno3158
      @bodyno3158 Před 3 lety +14

      @@anasevi9456 That's the real shit side of authoritarian government, efficient, indeed, but if the guy on the top has one single stupid idea...everything drop into a shitstorm at lightspeed.

    • @gohunt001-5
      @gohunt001-5 Před 3 lety

      That applies to most guns in this channel tbh

    • @kernjones1982
      @kernjones1982 Před 3 lety +3

      Gohunt001 - it’s not called “popular weapons” after all

  • @aga080
    @aga080 Před 3 lety +19

    “Thanks for tuning in” no dude thank YOU for making these videos

  • @drops2cents260
    @drops2cents260 Před 3 lety +99

    01:15
    "from the base of the case
    that it uses to headspace."
    Congregation, let us all appreciate and enjoy this little gem of MC Gun Jesus.

  • @AshyGr33n
    @AshyGr33n Před 3 lety +297

    Chinese here. Holy shit Ian what you've got on your hand is so rare, I couldn't even find any info about it on the Chinese-speaking side of the internet - except one image where it's placed beside a Type-67 silenced pistol (which basically is the same pistol, but without the secondary expansion chamber on the bottom.)

    • @FalbereChan
      @FalbereChan Před 3 lety +51

      they captured a lot of our firearms in the Vietnam/Korean wars, that's why it's actually much easier to find info on Chinese firearms in the US than in China (and there is also much less public interest in firearms in China than in the US)

    • @cabbage6015
      @cabbage6015 Před 3 lety +38

      I recommend this website: pewpewpew.work/china/index.htm . I don't speak Mandarin myself but using google translate it was pretty understandable. This site is really comprehensive imo when it comes to chinese firearms.

    • @Zen-rw2fz
      @Zen-rw2fz Před 3 lety +28

      @@cabbage6015 what a name

    • @drummaghua2687
      @drummaghua2687 Před 3 lety +34

      The problem of not finding them is just because the Type-64 silenced SMG is far more famous than this pistol, which causes the algorithm to automatically filter the information about the pistol

    • @AshyGr33n
      @AshyGr33n Před 3 lety +24

      @@BangBangBang. that's very not true lmao

  • @rakaipikatan8922
    @rakaipikatan8922 Před 3 lety +102

    I believe it comes with mysterious stranger perk

  • @xx1590
    @xx1590 Před 3 lety +31

    The designer is the John Browning of the PLA.

  • @hipwave
    @hipwave Před 3 lety +5

    it is a silenced semiauto blowback handgun that can operate in straight pull manual repeater mode to suppress even more noise. probably keeping it closed at fire time with a side lever is a bit hard for the lever and not the best mechanical solution. that is a kludge, this is proper engineering. an impressive gun.

  • @andrejbusin3508
    @andrejbusin3508 Před 3 lety +147

    It looks like if a makarov and a welrod had a baby.

    • @Jack-fw1by
      @Jack-fw1by Před 3 lety +2

      I think it kinda looks like a desert eagle from the side

    • @andrejbusin3508
      @andrejbusin3508 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Jack-fw1by hm, not rlly noticing it but ok.

    • @Maxxon89
      @Maxxon89 Před 3 lety +4

      Kind of. To me it looks like they tried to copy the PB's design (the ussr special forces silenced pistol).

    • @andrejbusin3508
      @andrejbusin3508 Před 3 lety

      @@Maxxon89 yeah i definetly do notice that actually.

    • @Zen-rw2fz
      @Zen-rw2fz Před 3 lety

      @@andrejbusin3508 it is fat

  • @thomasmyers9128
    @thomasmyers9128 Před 3 lety +203

    My high school was within ear shot of Mitch Werbell’s mercenaries “school”
    and military surplus store..... full auto firing could be heard often 😳....
    Also met and chatted with him several times...... very very colorful man...!!!!

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 Před 3 lety +10

      Lol that reminds me of back when I was in middle school on a Navy R&D base which connected to their land range, distant sounds/shock of bombs and stuff.

    • @sanguinemoon9201
      @sanguinemoon9201 Před 3 lety +2

      That's really cool. I don't live very far from there now.

    • @georgeheidkesr1759
      @georgeheidkesr1759 Před 3 lety +5

      Mac 10 & Mac 11 with Warbell' Sionics supressor...........I remember it well............own 3 in semi auto.........love um !!!

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      @darksu6947 Před 3 lety

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    • @koga8100
      @koga8100 Před 3 lety

      DårK Šøûł haha

  • @gustavchambert7072
    @gustavchambert7072 Před 3 lety +10

    That action lock is fantastic. The muffled thud of a properly suppressed 32 might not nessecarily alert a person, even if they hear it, it might not be identifiable as a dangerous sound. The mechanical click of the action will stand out in most environments though, as might, I imagine, the clatter of a spent cartrige ejecting and bouncing around. That is normally not a sound that's very audible over the sound of a gunshot, but inside a concrete building it might well be more distinguishable than the muted cough of the shot.
    That pistol is soo fucking cool

  • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
    @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 3 lety +24

    That rotating bolt lock feature is far better than a simple slide lock. It does the job but if you need a fast second shot, simply rack the action. With a simple slide lock, if you need a fast second shot, you need to manually unlock the slide, rack it AND if you want to maintain maximum suppression Relock the slide and then fire. That 'run-on' sentence ought make the fast second shot idea really clear. With this design Yes, manual slide lock; not so much.
    Great video! Take Care and be safe, John

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld Před 8 měsíci +5

      It also lets you unload and reload the pistol when needed without changing its functional status while giving a quick and easy way to activate semiautomatic operation if stealth has been lost.

  • @rayx3415
    @rayx3415 Před 3 lety +379

    The later developed type 67 silenced pistol is basically a simplified version of type 64, the lower chamber beneath the barrel has been removed for weight reduction. Before type 64 was issued to the Chinese military in a "large scale", it was mainly introduced to NVA and Viet Cong during the Vietnam War for guerilla warfare and special operation. PLA assessed and realized its value, and start equipped type 64/67 into PLA special forces (back in the day these units were referred as "reconnaissance units" not "special forces"). During the war between China and Vietnam in 1979, special operation units from both sites used type 64/67 silenced pistols during many operations, and it is so effective that type 64/67 served in PLA for nearly 40 years, and recently replaced by QSW-06 suppressed pistol.

    • @classifiedad1
      @classifiedad1 Před 2 lety +2

      Not surprised, given that integrally silenced Welrods and High Standard HDM allegedly remain in use to this day. Allegedly, because MI6, the CIA, and the special forces of their respective countries are kinda hush hush on the matter.

    • @JustAnotherJarhead
      @JustAnotherJarhead Před 8 měsíci +3

      As soon as you typed 1979...you smoked a lot of minds.

    • @rayx3415
      @rayx3415 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@JustAnotherJarhead my apology but I didn't get your point

    • @JustAnotherJarhead
      @JustAnotherJarhead Před 8 měsíci

      @@rayx3415 i am just pointing out how few, even knew there was a post Vietnam war, War with 🇨🇳 China.

    • @nomadmarauder-dw9re
      @nomadmarauder-dw9re Před 8 měsíci +13

      ​@@rayx3415he's referring to the fact that a lot of people are unaware of the Sino Viet War.

  • @Pigness7
    @Pigness7 Před 3 lety +251

    legit looks like a star wars kitbash blaster, that is extremely neat.

    • @profile2047
      @profile2047 Před 3 lety +1

      The Star Wars gun would look like this gun.

    • @TheUltimateWord
      @TheUltimateWord Před 3 lety +1

      @@profile2047 han solos blaster is an AR upper and lower with the barrel removed and the stock and buffer tube removed.

    • @tactilecola5709
      @tactilecola5709 Před 3 lety +14

      TheUltimateWord the dl-44? That's just a c96 pistol with a scope and some sort of flash hider. Did you mean another blaster?

    • @lt_dagg
      @lt_dagg Před 3 lety +8

      @@TheUltimateWord you mean Cassian's, from rogue one? That one is a straight up AR reciever set.

    • @navyens19
      @navyens19 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheUltimateWord Its a Mauser C96 with things on it.

  • @Nathan-dx2cb
    @Nathan-dx2cb Před 3 lety +81

    I want to hear the sound of this gun because I am so curious god damn it

    • @charlesguo3415
      @charlesguo3415 Před 3 lety +4

      Its ammo is hard to find these days even in China.

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Před 3 lety +2

      @@charlesguo3415 I wonder if regular 7,65 ammo could be modified to work. I've seen people use a lathe to modify IIRC .45 LC into something more suitable for the 1914 Webley automatic handgun.

    • @charlesguo3415
      @charlesguo3415 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Tunkkis I believe .32ACP could do it, just have to remove the rim

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Před 3 lety

      @@charlesguo3415 Seems like a fairly straightforward lathe operation.

    • @charlesguo3415
      @charlesguo3415 Před 3 lety

      @@Tunkkis LOL It's got a manual fire mod anyway

  • @rjhaney2614
    @rjhaney2614 Před 3 lety +4

    Without the suppressor this looks like the noisy cricket from Men in Black.

  • @MAlanThomasII
    @MAlanThomasII Před 3 lety +59

    From a tactical perspective, I can see the advantages to a manually-operated gun you can cycle without having to disable and reenable the slide lock every time. Slightly faster and far less likely to lead to operator error. You don't want someone forgetting to re-lock the slide!

  • @wookie-zh7go
    @wookie-zh7go Před 3 lety +49

    That is the most German non-german, sino-slavic pistol I've seen... And the coolest set up I've seen. I have no more words other than. What an action

    • @Hermenie
      @Hermenie Před 3 lety +11

      Sino, not chino

    • @wookie-zh7go
      @wookie-zh7go Před 3 lety +4

      @@Hermenie So it is. Thank you for correcting.

    • @jagdpanther2224
      @jagdpanther2224 Před 2 lety +2

      This gun for the "Chinese James Bond" !

  • @BlackPeter203
    @BlackPeter203 Před 3 lety +29

    What's impressive about the design is that there are no small pieces to lose. I'm actually surprised the magazine didn't incorporate the screwdriver needed. I had a cigarette lighter from the 30's made from billet aluminum that had a screwdriver built into the fuel filler cap. No rivets or pins, it was held together with screws. Not sure why you needed to take it apart, but they gave you the tool.

  • @TheCompleteMental
    @TheCompleteMental Před 2 lety +4

    "The coolest gun you will see all day"
    Me, who has been watching Forgotten Weapons for 3 hours: "Dont know about that one chief."

  • @EcchiRevenge
    @EcchiRevenge Před 3 lety +81

    Reminds me of tank bore evacuator design.
    Honestly, title isn't even clickbait. Who would have expected AK bolt to be there?

  • @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
    @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid Před 3 lety +337

    I like the Soviet’s (and CIA’s) Cold War “Silent” weapons... That were pretty much completely silent, save for a “click” of the hammer.

    • @hillaryclinton2415
      @hillaryclinton2415 Před 3 lety +9

      Damn click..

    • @ratter88
      @ratter88 Před 3 lety +58

      Makes you wonder what they could have done with those electronic primer ignition things, like the ones Remington made.

    • @cooliodiablo4571
      @cooliodiablo4571 Před 3 lety +14

      This would be literally the same. He showed that the slide locks and the hammer can be manually set to so that when it fires nothing but the hammer is moving making noise. Soviet weapons weren’t special in that aspect. Pretty much all the silenced guns made to be silent operate that way.

    • @ryankiesow6559
      @ryankiesow6559 Před 3 lety +6

      The vss or as val is my favorite.i want to get an ar in 9x39

    • @gmodiscool14
      @gmodiscool14 Před 2 lety +2

      @@cooliodiablo4571 hes talking about the self contained cartridges or whatever. the PSS is what the gun is called. there is no suppressor. the cartridge contains a piston which pushes the bullet out then seals the cartridge so no gas can escape. its damn near completely silent.
      it was further modernized with the PSS-2, but its very poorly documented.

  • @Burden-THE
    @Burden-THE Před 3 lety +15

    As a mechanic, the metallic mesh baffle reminds me of small bits in my air impact that are called "silencers" which look identical. Their performance is really incredible. If its considered crude, I would love to know what is better, though my Ingersoll Rand is much quieter than a firearm. Very interesting

    • @1lovesoni
      @1lovesoni Před rokem +3

      Gun silencers and industrial mufflers used in cars/machinery are nearly identical because they were invented by the same man, Hiram Percy Maxim (his father also invented the Maxim machine gun).

  • @daveyjones9699
    @daveyjones9699 Před 3 lety +4

    I think this is the first Forgotten Weapons video I've seen that's from this year. The camera quality is really good.

  • @dwaneanderson8039
    @dwaneanderson8039 Před 3 lety +45

    Well, it's certainly the coolest gun I've seen today so far, but it's only 6:00 AM.
    I understand the reason for the fancy locking mechanism. It's to enable you to quickly cycle the action manually in single shot mode without having to fumble with a separate locking lever. This will make follow up shots faster, which can be important with such a weak cartridge. It may not be vital, but you got to admire the effort that went into designing this.

  • @kc8omg
    @kc8omg Před 3 lety +185

    I like the clickbait-esque titles related to gun stuff:
    "Increase your rate of fire with this one weird trick! - Pedersen Device"
    "This is the gun the wood and steel industry don't want you to know about... - AR15"
    "They told him it was quiet, but then he pulled the trigger, you won't believe what happened next! - Welrod"

    • @AutumnsArmory
      @AutumnsArmory Před 3 lety +2

      This is great!

    • @kevintang5473
      @kevintang5473 Před 3 lety +27

      "Guy defeats multiple gunners with bare fist - Zip22"

    • @baconator1377
      @baconator1377 Před 3 lety +3

      "Muskgrave 9mm - A Gun for the Black Market"

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 3 lety

      @@kevintang5473 I nearly died of laughter at that Zip22 crack.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Před 3 lety

      "Does this 4 pound mace make bayonets obsolete?" --Colt Walker

  • @yellowmonkee0
    @yellowmonkee0 Před 3 lety

    I just love how detailed the mechanical explanai are. Some guns have just beautiful mechanical design.

  • @acl7295
    @acl7295 Před 3 lety +2

    Unbelievable … I saw this back in the military training I have back in 15 years ago and now I can see this on CZcams and commenting, man

  • @sawyerawr5783
    @sawyerawr5783 Před 3 lety +42

    I definitely agree with the sci-fi nature of this thing: it looks like some officer on a starship should have it as his sidearm.

  • @alexxanderson9025
    @alexxanderson9025 Před 3 lety +294

    (Spock voice): “Fascinating.”
    But really, yeah that is seriously the coolest gun I’ve seen in quite a while. Very interesting mechanics, and aesthetically kind of looks like something one would carry in a Mos Eisley cantina. Love this channel.

    • @Dunkopf
      @Dunkopf Před 3 lety +4

      it does look very starwars

    • @ghostAI.com00
      @ghostAI.com00 Před 3 lety

      Pakistan zindabad
      czcams.com/video/P2ZU3RIAFo0/video.html

    • @Nathan-dx2cb
      @Nathan-dx2cb Před 3 lety +2

      look like a gun from Blade Runner too!!

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics Před 2 lety +3

    Haven't gotten to the disassembly yet, but it seems like a very practical and clean design on the outside. I want one!!

  • @hamnose
    @hamnose Před 3 lety

    The recoil mechanism looks very delicate, particularly those little locking lugs and the slots they have to go through.

  • @samrussell9264
    @samrussell9264 Před 3 lety +1230

    The Chinese " Q " is obviously someone to respect...

    • @ratagris21
      @ratagris21 Před 3 lety +132

      Code name Qi

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner Před 3 lety +37

      They had their game down in 1964.

    • @ragingjaguarknight86
      @ragingjaguarknight86 Před 3 lety +31

      He probably was Zhuge Liang, reincarnated! ^_^

    • @zengqiu3149
      @zengqiu3149 Před 3 lety +39

      No sure what you mean. If it's the Q in the names of the guns like QBZ-95, it's simply an acronym for 'qiang', aka gun in Chinese. So QBZ-95 stands for Gun-Rifile-Automatic 95.

    • @darwinchan7695
      @darwinchan7695 Před 3 lety +93

      @@zengqiu3149 I think he meant the character "Q" in 007 movies, who developed new weapons for MI6 agents

  • @TylerSnyder305
    @TylerSnyder305 Před 3 lety +54

    It almost looks like a cross between a makarov and a Desert eagle.

  • @MrBigbadbuck
    @MrBigbadbuck Před 3 lety +1

    That is an absolute genius design for the time! Awesome I love it! Thanks Ian for sharing and showing us this beautiful piece of engineering.

  • @bfbcping
    @bfbcping Před 3 lety +10

    "Base of the case that it uses to headspace."
    If this isn't sampled for some hip hop tune, the music world is dead to me.

  • @gnfnrf
    @gnfnrf Před 3 lety +48

    So, did you have a disassembly manual? If not, how long did it take to figure out that none of the three screws actually unscrewed?

    • @AM-hf9kk
      @AM-hf9kk Před 3 lety +4

      I just hope Mark Novak doesn't see the shape of those screws.

    • @AM-hf9kk
      @AM-hf9kk Před 3 lety +4

      @Christian Bai WTF? I think your doctor may need to adjust your meds. No one going into this gun blind could intuit how it comes apart. It's not a Glock.

  • @mrmuttley
    @mrmuttley Před 3 lety +61

    This is the sort of thing I watch this channel for. I love the engineering and design of things like this. And the opposite like the liberator pistol "Hi Guys here's one of the worst things ever called a gun." type videos.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Před 3 lety +1

      Ever heard of a handgunne? Those were quite primitive.

    • @leMercenaire667
      @leMercenaire667 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@johndododoe1411that was medieval, you don't expect well made guns from that time

  • @cuckfensorship6104
    @cuckfensorship6104 Před 3 lety

    Thanks, Ian! That was the coolest gun I've seen today. Made my day.

  • @929Finn
    @929Finn Před 3 lety

    I heard about this gun once then a few months later you make a video? What a treat.

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 Před 3 lety +8

    That lock looks to be much more convenient to use than a typical slide lock as you don't have to manually unlocked and lock the slide every shot.

  • @crimsonhalo13
    @crimsonhalo13 Před 3 lety +511

    Item: Chinese Pistol
    +15% damage when fired from stealth
    +15% accuracy in VATS
    > equip

    • @grayeaglej
      @grayeaglej Před 3 lety +26

      Holdout Weapon, Can carry into all Casinos and Cesar's Fort.
      56,000 Caps o.o

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 Před 3 lety +34

      Should have a catchier name like the Capitalist Silencer

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 Před 3 lety +2

      So its the tf2 enforcer

    • @canehdiansteve3455
      @canehdiansteve3455 Před 3 lety +8

      @@Predator20357 That's only for the unique variant.

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 Před 3 lety +4

      CanehdianSteve But There is already a Chinese pistol and besides, Type 64 is probably a gun you probably have to dungeon crawl in a Chinese old base to get

  • @yatsumebaka5823
    @yatsumebaka5823 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the coolest suppressed pistol I have ever seen, thanks for the fantastic vid mate

  • @KhaoticL0ki
    @KhaoticL0ki Před 3 lety +6

    XD I love how almost none of the screws unscrew....

  • @caseyd9762
    @caseyd9762 Před 3 lety +726

    the story behind this specific gun is actually really cool. WerBell claimed that while in Vietnam that an assassin attempted to kill him with this gun, WerBell killed the would be assassin and took his type 64 as a trophy.

    • @distalradius8146
      @distalradius8146 Před 3 lety +186

      WerBell claimed a lot of things.

    • @caseyd9762
      @caseyd9762 Před 3 lety +137

      @@distalradius8146 Who would ever think the man with his own "mercenary school" might tell tall tales. it is far more likely that it was captured by someone else and given to him by some army brass at a demonstration for research purposes. but still i would rather believe the story, its just too cool of a provenance for this gun to throw away.

    • @chanman819
      @chanman819 Před 3 lety +65

      @@caseyd9762 Yeah, I think it's more likely Werbell at some point inspected it or saw it among captured weapons and pulled strings/paid off the right parties to make it happen.
      Stranger things have happened. I'm reminded of the story behind the prototype lightweight Hi-Power from czcams.com/video/HNBNKqz9bko/video.html

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Před 3 lety +18

      Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga Před 3 lety +54

      @@Tunkkis Always let facts get in the way of a "good story". "Good stories" tend to either be nationalistic glorifications, or self-aggrandizement of the individual involved. If not both.

  • @TheItchyDani3l
    @TheItchyDani3l Před 3 lety +9

    Star wars prop department: Patrick, write that down!!

  • @dgmr22
    @dgmr22 Před 3 lety

    What an amazing looking gun, very cool. Your channel always finds the coolest and most obscure firearms. Great work.

  • @Rubenbauer80
    @Rubenbauer80 Před 3 lety

    Easily one of the coolest pistols you’ve ever reviewed. Awesome! thanks Ian.

  • @MadNumForce
    @MadNumForce Před 3 lety +96

    **butterfly guy meme**
    "Will this be in the next John Wick movie?"

    • @rgmolpus
      @rgmolpus Před 3 lety +1

      Oh, PLEASE!

    • @notgray88
      @notgray88 Před 3 lety +4

      EA and Hollywood watching forgotten weapons channel: "Write that down! Write that down!"

    • @mulgerbill
      @mulgerbill Před 3 lety

      SOLD!!!

  • @usagiyojimbo5944
    @usagiyojimbo5944 Před 3 lety +24

    when you do your John Wick cameo, remember to have this gun on display. :)

  • @smartalix1999
    @smartalix1999 Před 3 lety

    The slide-cycle switch not only prevents the noise from the action cycling, it keeps the brass inside the chamber, useful for clandestine action.

  • @jimdorsett
    @jimdorsett Před 3 lety

    You have the coolest job ever! Seriously, love the channel, love seeing interesting and unique pieces of history like this. Very cool!

  • @retiredfederalie178
    @retiredfederalie178 Před 3 lety +20

    I can see Q telling 007 “ you have a new pistol...”

  • @VexShiza
    @VexShiza Před 3 lety +5

    This video actually made me smile because of how cool the gun really was and how interesting the mechanics were. A really interesting design. Thanks for the video!

  • @oneshotpete6.591
    @oneshotpete6.591 Před 3 lety

    You sir are absolutely correct... this was the coolest gun I’ve seen today and honestly in some time 😯... Thanks for sharing it !!

  • @wabyjojohnston9606
    @wabyjojohnston9606 Před 3 lety +10

    The “holster” is more of a shirt for the gun

  • @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven

    The Pistol that inspired the "Forgotten Weapons" Logo.

    • @satkum2101
      @satkum2101 Před 3 lety +36

      nah thats the oss flying dragon

    • @ryanvargas4889
      @ryanvargas4889 Před 3 lety +11

      I always thought it was the automag but this is way cooler.

    • @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven
      @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven Před 3 lety +26

      @@satkum2101 We are all aware. I was simply making a joke. If anything we could call this the Chinese bootleg version of the Logo.

    • @NM-wd7kx
      @NM-wd7kx Před 3 lety +10

      @@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven Chinese mystery logos?

    • @jackcarr177
      @jackcarr177 Před 3 lety +2

      I thought it was a hi - point

  • @andrewwoodhead3141
    @andrewwoodhead3141 Před 3 lety +5

    It's going to be quite hard going through the rest of my life without one now...

  • @Airondot
    @Airondot Před 3 lety

    I’m in love with how this guns slide lock operates

  • @tsclly2377
    @tsclly2377 Před 3 lety

    one of the best reviews. especially for the times. including the epilogue and definitely very cool

  • @chatdeblanc
    @chatdeblanc Před 3 lety +15

    What a funky little peashooter!

  • @lanedexter6303
    @lanedexter6303 Před 3 lety +13

    Fascinating! This belongs in “Guns of Serenity/Firefly.” 😀

  • @Bochi42
    @Bochi42 Před 3 lety

    Wow! That truly is the most fascinating pistol I've ever heard of. Ian is the best!

  • @thisisme4988
    @thisisme4988 Před 3 lety

    One of the coolest reviews I've seen lately

  • @AAChang1
    @AAChang1 Před 3 lety +32

    "the base of the case that it uses to headspace" try saying that 10 times fast

    • @batesmotel282
      @batesmotel282 Před 3 lety

      Lmao I was just thinking that

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord Před 3 lety

      Bullet rain in Spain goes mainly through the brain.

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 Před 3 lety +113

    7:21 "Stack of baffling material" .... but isn't that most native Chinese firearms?

    • @kmech3rd
      @kmech3rd Před 3 lety +9

      Especially the Wauser Broomhandle.

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 3 lety +2

      Einstein's theory of relativity, and Michelle O's book finally have a purpose :-D

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 3 lety +2

      PULL!

    • @Snubrevolver
      @Snubrevolver Před 3 lety +6

      @@kmech3rd BROWNINGSBROWNINGSBROWNINGS

    • @grayeaglej
      @grayeaglej Před 3 lety +1

      Thats just mean XD

  • @FrancoisBourque
    @FrancoisBourque Před 3 lety

    agreed....that locking bolt mecanism is totally awesome...thanks for sharing :)

  • @4E414D45h
    @4E414D45h Před 3 lety +6

    Damn, now I wanna hear it shoot

  • @chopinbloc
    @chopinbloc Před 3 lety +9

    I don't know how you got hold of Deckard's pistol, but I'm in love.

  • @drmachinewerke1
    @drmachinewerke1 Před 3 lety +19

    That would be s great pistol for you to carry in the next Wick movie.

    • @mousaabutaa353
      @mousaabutaa353 Před 3 lety

      Why?

    • @yaboil7774
      @yaboil7774 Před 3 lety

      @Yeetus_Deletus_Mission_Completus there was that scene in the museum where he uses the revolver though

    • @chrislee3720
      @chrislee3720 Před 3 lety

      @@yaboil7774 Yeah, and he modified the cylinder to get the cartridges usable! Super cool!

    • @chrislee3720
      @chrislee3720 Před 3 lety

      @Yeetus_Deletus_Mission_Completus Besides, the series is never mainly about what weapons to use, it's about the beauty of skills and weapons combined, strange to say that tho.

  • @TheFunkeyfish
    @TheFunkeyfish Před 3 lety

    Ingenious patent! Likes that you don't have loose screws when disassembling.

  • @stephensmith4480
    @stephensmith4480 Před 3 lety +1

    That has got to be the coolest pistol I have ever seen. It`s engineering genius.

  • @patrickc1508
    @patrickc1508 Před 3 lety +40

    I don’t know about “coolest”, but it’s definitely up there. It probably one of the rarest things that I’ve seen in private hands in the USA. I can’t imagine that many of them made it over here, if more than one did. Low production, special purpose military gun, from Communist China..... It may have been a Vietnam War bring back. I’m guessing that the guy mentioned in the video had some very important international connections. I don’t see this in the hands of the NVA. I don’t see the Chinese government selling one on the commercial market. My guess is that China sent one or more to another comblock country for them to evaluate, and it got lost/stolen/sold. This thing might have been stolen by the CIA and brought back. I’m almost more interested in the story of how it made it here, than I am with the gun. If they had that history, it might even go double the money at auction.

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner Před 3 lety +14

      Mitchell WerBell had the gun since at least 1981. The story he told (which may or may not be true) is that he got it in the aftermath of a failed assassination attempt on him when he was selling weapons in South Vietnam in the mid 1960s. The only other admitted place where one of these guns has shown up as South Korea in the early 1970s. The South Koreans found a North Korean spy with one.
      The pistol was designed for insurgents to use on assassination missions. The Chinese gave some to the NVA which gave them to the elite Viet Cong special operations units. The Chinese Type 67 silenced (which replaced the type 64) pistol was much more common in South Vietnam.

    • @RockIslandAuctionCompany
      @RockIslandAuctionCompany Před 3 lety +13

      Jim and John are right it is from the Mitchell WerBell collection. We wrote a blog about it that may provide some more of the background for you, www.rockislandauction.com/riac-blog/weapons-of-mitch-werbell-iii!

  • @Daniel-tv9tb
    @Daniel-tv9tb Před 3 lety +5

    Interesting how you have a one shot mode, making it as quiet as possible. Clearly used for assassinations or special operations. Extremely interesting weapon, very rare!

    • @Obelisk57
      @Obelisk57 Před 3 lety

      ...or back yard plinking.

  • @spwan10
    @spwan10 Před 3 lety

    Man I love see older n out dateed firearm their classic vintage wooden grips look so nice.

  • @pedrotome9119
    @pedrotome9119 Před měsícem +1

    What a gun. What a story!! I am so happy that this channel exists!!!! ❤❤

  • @tidge879
    @tidge879 Před 3 lety +28

    That needs to be in a star wars movie, it'd make a really cool rebel blaster!

  • @PavewayJDAM
    @PavewayJDAM Před 3 lety +718

    When you need to execute dissidents without waking the neighbors.

    • @glenmcgillivray4707
      @glenmcgillivray4707 Před 3 lety +60

      *without waking party members sleeping inside.

    • @thebubonicj
      @thebubonicj Před 3 lety +20

      Which is every day but also I don't know what you're talking about.

    • @armstrong2052
      @armstrong2052 Před 3 lety +3

      This comment is epic. 😈👌

    • @glenmcgillivray4707
      @glenmcgillivray4707 Před 3 lety +9

      @JESUS CHRIST there is still the passage of a fast projectile, the expansion of gas, the shouts of the dissidents, screams and rage.
      Probably not that quiet. But they muffled the supersonic bang of a gunshot.

    • @zogworth
      @zogworth Před 3 lety +10

      In my country they just lock you in a suitcase and leave you. Or you die of a 'heart attack'

  • @ct2368
    @ct2368 Před 2 lety

    That's the best gun you've reviewed yet! Awesome!

  • @enterusernamefuck
    @enterusernamefuck Před 7 měsíci

    Another fantastic breakdown, Ian!