Why Do So Many College Basketball Teams Refuse to Innovate? | LeBron James and JJ Redick

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2024
  • In this clip, JJ Redick and LeBron James talk about the creativity of the Boston Celtics as they run plays through Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Derrick White, Kristaps Porzingis and Jrue Holiday which leads to a discussion about the lack of innovation in men's college basketball, showcased now in March Madness
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Komentáře • 532

  • @tysonmaddox1090
    @tysonmaddox1090 Před měsícem +843

    “I know Washington is in the shitter”😂never thought I’d hear lebron talk about teams like that

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +119

      I'm sure even the Wizards themselves would say the same if they were asked about their team in a casual conversation lol

    • @AB_Seymour
      @AB_Seymour Před měsícem +87

      As a lifelong Wizards fan, I see no issue with his statement lol. We're poverty asl

    • @CoopDaSnoop
      @CoopDaSnoop Před měsícem +21

      @@AB_Seymourbetter than being the 8 seed every year. At least yall have a direction unlike the Nets

    • @oMaJoJ
      @oMaJoJ Před měsícem +1

      I think a dude that actually played on the Wizards referred to them as the Washington Generals. Guys know that team has been in a bad way for a long time with periods of stability and winning

    • @ruud-dy7tj
      @ruud-dy7tj Před měsícem +1

      The beauty of internet broadcasting

  • @LetsFifa2013
    @LetsFifa2013 Před měsícem +140

    There should’ve been a terminology prompt when Bron said “shitter”

    • @dul7413
      @dul7413 Před měsícem +11

      Shitter
      Term used for inept organization that spend money on the wrong players or just not at all. Ex. Post Decision Cavs, process sixers, modern day wizards

  • @elove312
    @elove312 Před měsícem +159

    In four minutes and twenty eight seconds I learned more about DHO and switching from a hip touch than I would learn from first take and undisputed combined . This is very good 👍

    • @DublinDapper
      @DublinDapper Před měsícem +5

      First take?! You might aswell watch my 600lb life bruh

    • @elove312
      @elove312 Před měsícem

      @@DublinDapper facts. I’m over sports talk shows

    • @BookerT69
      @BookerT69 Před 28 dny

      Don’t NOBODY! Watch ESPN garbage unless the showing a game

  • @WhatRYouAimingAt
    @WhatRYouAimingAt Před měsícem +140

    Never thought I’d see this type of content from Bron before he retired. I could listen to this stuff for hours.

  • @frogalex8915
    @frogalex8915 Před měsícem +20

    they are saying why doesn't college play like the nba where its all spread the court but wanna froget that there are barely enough big men in the nba that can fill those roles so how is college gonna do the same. College is an older style of basketball because of the lack of number of great shooting bigmen. Its the same reason these college football teams run these crazy offenses that would never work in the nfl because there is a lack of guys talented enough to play the nlf style qb there isnt even enough for the NFL

  • @sixthorder
    @sixthorder Před měsícem +394

    Us NBA fans say this every march madness. College players don't know what they're doing compared to NBA players. And the difference jumps out of the screen.

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +43

      Yet a bunch of college hoops fans come out and say that college basketball is better than NBA and that college basketball is pure basketball.

    • @limitedbom2206
      @limitedbom2206 Před měsícem +73

      @@rangergaming8316 I will say college basketball is better than nba in terms of officiating (usually). There's a lot more contact being made on drives and no foul is called which is nice to see. NBA really does feel like what mood is the ref in tonight.

    • @ryanhooper01
      @ryanhooper01 Před měsícem +59

      It’s fun to watch Kids just give it all for there school, Talent wise it Doesn’t compare to the League that shouldn’t be an argument

    • @kingjaydex7464
      @kingjaydex7464 Před měsícem +5

      @@rangergaming8316yea cause college sucks

    • @GeronimoPlaz
      @GeronimoPlaz Před měsícem +8

      College basketball is so trash lol

  • @thomassd12
    @thomassd12 Před měsícem +191

    This Pod is for real hoopers! Love the knowledge being spoken on here!🤝🏾

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +6

      Facts, this pod is amazing.

    • @dxwallace55
      @dxwallace55 Před měsícem +3

      Very "punctilious" (look that word up)

    • @Frostshokula
      @Frostshokula Před měsícem +2

      If it was for real hoopers, they wouldn’t be defining terms 😆

    • @thomassd12
      @thomassd12 Před 21 dnem

      @@Frostshokula Crazy how I’m just seeing this this but this pod is for real hoopers and for the young hoopers coming in and learning the game who may not be familiar with the terms used. Crazy how you find a way to hate lol wierdo 😂

  • @Mav0011
    @Mav0011 Před měsícem +80

    In college basketball you actually see tons of different styles. You’re not getting 50 threes vs 50 threes each night. Some teams play zone while other teams press full court all game. Some teams slow down the pace and play with a traditional big. I love watching the different styles compete.

    • @rkwittem
      @rkwittem Před měsícem +5

      This video has nothing to do with that

    • @BookerT69
      @BookerT69 Před 28 dny +5

      College basketball is awesome

  • @kwameankamah8336
    @kwameankamah8336 Před měsícem +15

    uconn is very fun to watch, one of the few teams. coach hurley has some sets that are very creative and fun to watch

  • @WilliamJohnson-vj5gz
    @WilliamJohnson-vj5gz Před měsícem +7

    Loving you guys as a duo. So much knowledge shared out.

  • @mattstakeontheancients7594
    @mattstakeontheancients7594 Před měsícem +22

    As a casual fan I appreciate the explanations of plays.

  • @carlknepfler8976
    @carlknepfler8976 Před měsícem +76

    A key reason is that the disparity in talent makes it an uneven playing field. What I mean is that IF the teams in college were more even in talent, then coaching would rise to the surface. But because talent in many cases is so uneven great coaching doesn't necessarily result in success and bad coaching can still be rewarded when they have lottery picks covering up these glaring strategic mistakes that JJ and LBJ are pointing out.

    • @nwwfmaniac529
      @nwwfmaniac529 Před měsícem +9

      this is kinda right, kinda wrong. if you have a talent mismatch in your favor, it makes sense to play conservatively so that you don't risk mistakes that nullify your talent advantage. if there's a talent mismatch that's not in your favor, it makes sense to add any type of randomness to the equation. this is why college fb is so much more innovative than the nfl.

    • @atomsk1972
      @atomsk1972 Před měsícem

      All it takes is 2 dummies on the floor and you can't run sophisticated plays. That said, the 'college' aspect of college basketball is failing.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem +1

      Actually I think you are wrong. The more talented taems like Kentucky have many underclassman. When teams like the mid majors are together for 4 years then they can compete against more taleneted teams because they have worked r together for years.

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician Před měsícem

      Virginia is always that ine well coached team with lackluster talent. They rarely ever get 5 stars and struggle to get 4 stars. But somehow compete with UNC and Duke every year

    • @cody5059
      @cody5059 Před měsícem +1

      The ncaa tournament kinda proved you wrong this year tbh. Kentucky is the more talented team but they lost to a better coach team. If we're being honest coaching is more important in college with all the different styles in offense and defense and as coach your setting the tone for your program. If you don't have a great coach in college it shows. In the NBA coaches are replaceable just look at the bucks this year. NBA coaches have to manage personalities since everyone in the NBA usually has similar offense and defense. Also consider the fact that NBA has put so much emphasis on star players, that it's made coaches hand cuffed with how they handle them. Unless you're a respected coach like pop.

  • @mcleananderson4948
    @mcleananderson4948 Před měsícem +8

    The post game is ineffective because the rules make bigs plays though contact in the post and jumpshooters can't be touched. Obviously no hand checking (freedom of movement) has changed a lot. But hand checking was only allowed because everyone allowed carrying the basketball. Get rid of handchecking get rid of the carry. Nba basketball also doesn't call traveling.

  • @furkan5523
    @furkan5523 Před měsícem +17

    Best Podcast out there🙏🏻

  • @jacobringenwald
    @jacobringenwald Před měsícem +7

    I think there might be some cherry picking going because I've seen plenty of college teams run interesting and dynamic offenses, and a lot of creative offenses that probably wouldn't work in the NBA like the 5 out offense.
    You guys are also comparing a team of student athletes, most of whom will go pro in something other than sports, with a national basketball association team.

  • @ReKo1990
    @ReKo1990 Před měsícem +13

    I fucking love this pod.
    When does week 2 drop JJ?

    • @giombi15
      @giombi15 Před měsícem +10

      This is week 2

    • @FdomeMarlin
      @FdomeMarlin Před měsícem +1

      This is a clip from week 2 they uploaded the full episode 2 days ago bro

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem

      This is a clip from episode 2 which came out this week, last week was episode 1 so go and check that out.

    • @jreel
      @jreel Před měsícem +1

      He probably thought this was week 1 since they have on the same outfits from week 1. They recorded two episodes in one day, but this is week 2.

  • @weneeda5th
    @weneeda5th Před měsícem +9

    What love to hear their thoughts on Zach Edey.

    • @troylee4196
      @troylee4196 Před měsícem +7

      This isn't First Take, they aren't trying to promote anything but educate

    • @SenayTV
      @SenayTV Před měsícem

      Future of team Canada

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 Před měsícem +71

    Lebron is a thinking player. College players are drilled into the patterns and systems the coaches call. They’re not allowed to think for themselves

    • @raymondqiu8202
      @raymondqiu8202 Před měsícem

      These are all small fixes as a defense and offense. Real thinking is when you can get a whole team to know where each other are and making offball screens and movement to fool a defense. Only the warriors and spurs in the past played actual team basketball that reads defenses

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem +4

      Do you think watching players like Doncic, Trae Young and James Hardin control the ball for 15 seconds is interesting basketball? How about players sitting on the 3 point line. Is that interesting?

    • @pandabear1576
      @pandabear1576 Před měsícem +2

      @@Gnofgthose 3 players are all thinking players who can run an offensive set or score when a play breaks down. That’s the bare minimum to make the NBA as a guard and they all do it at a historically elite level

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem

      @@pandabear1576 watch this guy and with the exception of Kyrie name another guy who can dribble this well. Especially watch the fast break where he goes back and forth turning the celtic around?
      czcams.com/video/Sua9u318wGo/video.htmlsi=-Uhka2-VDY96T2Y0

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem

      @@pandabear1576 quick question for you. In your pickup games do you shoot 3 pointers?

  • @CoachRJ334
    @CoachRJ334 Před měsícem +62

    Bron with so much knowledge its crazy

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +7

      One of the smartest players in NBA history.

    • @CoachRJ334
      @CoachRJ334 Před měsícem +3

      @@rangergaming8316 💯

    • @micapalma9532
      @micapalma9532 Před měsícem +1

      yeah right, thats why he jumps from team to team....specially with established players.

    • @CoachRJ334
      @CoachRJ334 Před měsícem

      @@micapalma9532 man shut up go somewhere else and comment hate ....

    • @Ry-kr6ve
      @Ry-kr6ve Před měsícem +9

      @@micapalma9532i guess a jordan fan is here again.🤣

  • @imnotdan37
    @imnotdan37 Před měsícem +1

    2'38" hilarious misunderstanding😂

  • @Sparkyzachchannel.
    @Sparkyzachchannel. Před měsícem

    I 100 percent agree my dad bro and I are yelling saying stop when they do that 😂

  • @BasicBodThor
    @BasicBodThor Před měsícem

    I don't know a thing about basketball plays etc. This podcast is great!

  • @issamelarmi
    @issamelarmi Před měsícem +4

    Real basket ball talk, without all the narrative / agenda pushing of mainstream sports media, is great content

  • @Jdaymer
    @Jdaymer Před měsícem +8

    This podcast is why Lebron James will go down as the greatest athlete of all time and why JJ will go down as the best “That White Dude” in NBA history as well

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem +1

      JJ the best white dude. Now that is funny.

  • @julianwilson5607
    @julianwilson5607 Před měsícem +8

    I'm watching March Madness rite now and they are explaining what I'm watching in college. They consistently miss open guys when they dribble off the high screen.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem +1

      Are 3 point 35 foot shots with only the guy who dribbled the ball upcourt smart basketball? like Trae Young, Doncic and James Hardin does all the time?

    • @julianwilson5607
      @julianwilson5607 Před měsícem +1

      @Gnofg well it's smart if your getting solid stops on defense and making shots at a high % on offense. Doncic takes 10 three pointers a game at 37%. The Atlantic Hawks are awful as a team on defense so they struggle. Luka's team has won 10-11 games. It's working because their playing solid defense as a team along with 57% from 2 pt range along with solid 3 pt shooting..The threat of teams making 3 point shoots opens up the lane from defenders so in return the offense gets high % shots. Bottom line is the top teams in the NBA lead the NBA in 3 point shooting, but the teams only shooting well inside the arc and not behind it struggle. The problem with college ball is the players miss too many open shots. Guys with the ball aren't good at facilitating the high screen offense. That's why you don't see many guys go from college to the NBA and be good as perimeter players running the offense immediately. Trae was at Oklahoma. He lead the nation in scoring and averaged like 10 assists a game. Soon as he got to the NBA, he did well. Most guys aren't good enough. College ball runs alotta old school offense still, guys make alotta mistakes, miss shots, so it looks like their playing better D then the NBA which isn't true at all in my opinion. The NBA offenses they run with awesome offensive players who can shoot, pass, and read defenses are impossible to stop. You just gotta pick your poison and hope they miss on defense as a team.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem

      @@julianwilson5607 Trae Young sucks. I live in Atlanta and he is the worst defensive player I have ever watched,
      Hawks with Trae 21-29 without Trae 12-10. He is a loser. Yes the pro’s shoot better.
      Let me ask you this. If you got 9 points for a 50 yard touchdown pass do you think it would change the game?
      Can you name another sport that has different scores for a goal, touchdown or run?
      Trae was coached in high school, AAU. And one year in college. Do you think he is having deep discussions on the theory behind basketball.
      Most of the U.S. players have very limited coaching. You learn defense in college and most of the modern players don’t learn correct defensive position.
      The game is out of balance. It should be a mix of low post, midrange and deep shooting. It is just deep shooting now.
      When you play pickup do you shoot 3 pointers because if you are you are not a good enough shooter to take that shot. Amateurs do not shoot 35% and if you aren’t then you are doing worse.

    • @akwumba1
      @akwumba1 Před měsícem

      ​@@julianwilson5607lmao. No one would ever say that is smart. The NBA lets their players take over too much instead of playing team ball

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 29 dny

      @@akwumba1🙄🙄🙄

  • @TomStansfield
    @TomStansfield Před měsícem

    Uphill DHO aka “Grenade Action” 👌

  • @duffman1876
    @duffman1876 Před měsícem +59

    Y'all know Bron joining the Podcast game is fye and the haters are tuned in even mo 😅🍻🍺

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +7

      The biggest haters are the people in the media. They're twisting Bron's words to paint a bad narrative around him because they know this podcast becoming successful isn't good for them.

    • @tcggggg
      @tcggggg Před měsícem +1

      Stephen a really said he started this podcast to distract from the daily goat debate 🤣🤣 dude ego is disproportionately inflated he thinks hes an icon

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem

      @@tcggggg who are you talking about when it comes to ego?

    • @tcggggg
      @tcggggg Před měsícem +2

      @@rangergaming8316 stephen a

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +3

      @@tcggggg then I agree, he's been on this crusade against Bron and constantly acts like he's the most important person in the world and that Bron does stuff to avoid him. It's insane how delusional he is.

  • @MulletMike
    @MulletMike Před měsícem

    How long is the episode? 3 days? 😂

  • @highdough2712
    @highdough2712 Před 26 dny

    As a high school coach, myself, I share the same anxiety watching my own team, sometimes. The example LeBron said, throwing the ball into the post to a guy who can’t do anything with it. I’ve told them not to do that countless times and they still do it. Part of it is they’re not at the level where they’re thinking out there. They’re simply playing on instinct and their instincts aren’t very good, yet.

  • @joelindsey76
    @joelindsey76 Před měsícem +10

    I'm not here Wizards slander Bron😭😭😭😭😭

  • @pecanpillar
    @pecanpillar Před měsícem +49

    This is so real. I can barely watch a full college basketball game the NBA games just seem so much smoother

    • @jamiegaskins3687
      @jamiegaskins3687 Před měsícem +19

      That’s because you are the target audience the league dumbed the game down for. That shit is not basketball.

    • @geebster.
      @geebster. Před měsícem +18

      ​@jamiegaskins3687 looks like you didn't understand this podcast at all then. The whole point is college runs ancient simplistic schemes and still mess it up while the NBA has become very complicated by comparison.

    • @tcggggg
      @tcggggg Před měsícem

      @@jamiegaskins3687what a stupid comment

    • @jamiegaskins3687
      @jamiegaskins3687 Před měsícem +2

      @@geebster. damn that’s crazy, college is more popular still.

    • @cmoneyduh
      @cmoneyduh Před měsícem +9

      ⁠@@geebster.the NBA is the exact opposite of complicated . It’s zero defense pick and roll run and gun . College basketball still teaches fundamentals

  • @OnlyTheBestNO
    @OnlyTheBestNO Před měsícem

    You like that bron bron ? I had that long time ago

  • @rangergaming8316
    @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +1

    It's crazy how often we see that shot that they're talking about that big men take under the basket.

  • @chrispulinthitta3652
    @chrispulinthitta3652 Před měsícem +3

    Probably also hard to watch your son play basketball when all he does is sit on the bench

  • @dharrell016
    @dharrell016 Před měsícem

    I want to know their thoughts on that Championship Baylor team.

  • @rayrey90
    @rayrey90 Před měsícem +3

    Don't get me wrong...I love that college basketball relies heavily on fundamentals but they need to clean those fundamentals up. I feel they play too fast, which doesn't allow schemes to effectively pan out. The elite college teams do. There's innovation but not too much of it. College baskeetball forces defenses to guess more than the defenses of the NBA. The NBA relies too much on mismatches. It works but it can become a flaw...making a team predictable.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 29 dny

      Part of the problem with men’s college hoops is the really good players never play more than a year now.

  • @JLov3RnB
    @JLov3RnB Před měsícem

    It’s crazy bc that shot is exactly what Edey does and DJ Burns. Of course some touch but noticed those finishes will get swatted in pros

  • @30atwill91
    @30atwill91 Před měsícem +1

    This podcast is gonna make the average basketball fan smarter, and be able to understand what they see when watching a game

  • @philipmarchalquizar7741
    @philipmarchalquizar7741 Před měsícem +1

    This pure basketball talk. 🏀😳

  • @tiger1701
    @tiger1701 Před měsícem +4

    Kinda bummed JJ turned down coaching in the league

  • @michaelwilliams3816
    @michaelwilliams3816 Před měsícem +4

    What is JJ talking about it. He never changed his game since Duke lol..

  • @adamkeith6138
    @adamkeith6138 Před 29 dny +1

    I find it ironic they accuse college teams of lacking innovation, but when we send the American national team to play against European national teams with significantly less individual talent, those teams make the game close because they play with better strategies (i.e. more ball reversal). They should follow their own advice and use more optimal strategies in their games.

  • @getmoney3806
    @getmoney3806 Před měsícem +1

    My biggest problem with college hoops is these kids will be down 1 or 2 with the game on the line and they'll take a 3 instead of getting a better shot at the rim or mid range.

  • @Lee-tj8km
    @Lee-tj8km Před měsícem

    it gives me the office vibes

  • @triplekillerable
    @triplekillerable Před měsícem

    If this podcast isnot on Spotify I'm suing JJ Reddick ASAP

  • @mrlion8834
    @mrlion8834 Před měsícem +20

    Lebron's memory is insane.

  • @rayrey90
    @rayrey90 Před měsícem

    That was AR's fault. Rui and AD had him covered. All AR had to do was communicate to Rui to slide to Kuzma because AD had AR covered for the 2nd screen. You know Kuz is either going to pop out or slide back back, and Avdija was setting the 2nd screen in which AD was behind, so this would allow AR to slide back in front of Tyus Jones, and everyone can go back to their original defensive assignments. Easy defensive recovery.

  • @ahmadnaqvi2045
    @ahmadnaqvi2045 Před měsícem +1

    This is phenomenal. So educational. So insightful for us armchair basketball fans. JJ and Bron are taking over!

  • @adedoyinolayinka4255
    @adedoyinolayinka4255 Před měsícem

    I knew this pod was gonna be 🔥

  • @johnsnow6019
    @johnsnow6019 Před 24 dny

    Stop shaky cam

  • @i_amcici7168
    @i_amcici7168 Před měsícem +3

    JJ will keep dude "honest"

    • @CoreyDHollingsworth
      @CoreyDHollingsworth Před měsícem

      Lebron will keep Lebron honest. Why are you trying to turn JJ into the stereotypical white dude whose job is to control the “ talent”? Let them sit down and talk basketball.

  • @Shaheemswaggedout
    @Shaheemswaggedout Před měsícem

    Does that mean college ball in a way can delay a players growth going into the league?

  • @zachreacts5508
    @zachreacts5508 Před měsícem +13

    I love college basketball. Teams run zone defense. More teams are running set plays instead of just ball screen action and iso. It's different styles instead of everyone running the same plays. Plus the tournament is being dominated by two big men that post up. Hand checks aren't called as much so the game can get more physical. It's way different from NBA ball and that's why I love it.

  • @Chilionstapleton
    @Chilionstapleton Před měsícem

    Offenses have been better but defense hasn't. The effort is shitty! It's not hard to defend pick and rolls. Every team does the same 1:4 or 1:5 action every damn day.

  • @ChrisJoestarr
    @ChrisJoestarr Před měsícem

    The last time I watch collage seriously was that Kemba walker run, I try to watch some USC this year but I don't enjoy it, it feels so clunky and primitive like it doesn't make sense most of the time, idk if it is just me but I'm constantly saying TF ARE DOING?

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem

      Do you find one person dribbling for 15 seconds and either doing a step back 30 footer or penetrating and dishing exciting basketball?

  • @vizionaryentertainment8464
    @vizionaryentertainment8464 Před měsícem

    Well the question I have is why don't NBA teams post up anymore unless your Jokic or Embiid?

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 Před měsícem

      because there are better shots. the other exception would be if a big has a huge mismatch, that would be a good shot too. the average value of an NBA shot has gone way up in the last 8 years because of pace and space and the plays that have come out of it. this whole episode is how a lot of these new popular actions are very hard to guard. the value of a hook shot from a mediocre big in the post hasn't changed. also, a specific thing to the post is that it's the easiest place to send a double and most bigs aren't good enough passers to reliably punish that, which is why jokic is a nightmare.

    • @quentindillon8381
      @quentindillon8381 Před měsícem

      It's a couple of things.Big men are told to play small not big.You could literally score 12 -15+ points a game with a hook and a turn around jumper from one shoulder.Both shoulders 20-25+ a game.Embid in the games he struggles it's usually he's taken fade aways instead of power thru for more and 1's or free throw attempts.Teams don't have the bodies to guard a legit post player.You lose what you don't use.That's like being fast and not use your speed.It's ok to be a bully around the basket.

    • @moses0686
      @moses0686 Před měsícem

      Feeding to the post for most bigs, who can't pass, shoot, put the ball on floor is suicide to rhythm. Think of all the things you have to do just to get to your preferred spot if that's your only weapon?

    • @vizionaryentertainment8464
      @vizionaryentertainment8464 Před měsícem

      @@moses0686 So it is moreso the game is being taught at the youth level differently. Bigs nowadays play small. Back in the day if you were a big you were taught the low post and thats it as youth player coming up

  • @justinc8707
    @justinc8707 Před měsícem +2

    What drives me nuts is watching dudes who make 10’s of millions of dollars a year to play a game not put any effort in during the regular season and take nights off when working people pay 100’s of dollars to come watch you play

  • @jamiegaskins3687
    @jamiegaskins3687 Před měsícem +19

    College ball is outdated, I can’t disagree. But tell me, why do college games get more attention than the pros? The current NBA is far more unwatchable compared to outdated college ball. Maybe because no one wants to watch 75 ISOs and step backs 😮

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 Před měsícem +6

      college ball is popular for the reason it always has been, bc of the stakes and excitement of a single elimination tournament and the kind of personal investment people have in college teams. and the rate of isos is lower now than it has basically ever been, just bc you don't understand the plays teams are running doesn't mean they arent running more and more complicated actions

    • @jamiegaskins3687
      @jamiegaskins3687 Před měsícem

      @@QGfk1 gtfo goofy. “If you don’t understand the plays” we’re watching the same people break down the game, goofy. You don’t have magic knowledge.

    • @mattschurenko3032
      @mattschurenko3032 Před měsícem +4

      Yes. And there’s a 50 % chance at least one of the best players is going to be load managing that game. The regular season is dead to me. I will only watch the playoffs now.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg Před měsícem +2

      @@QGfk1 We understand the plays what we don't like is one player dribbling for 15 seconds at a time and then doing a step back or at the last second passing to someone for a 3 point shot. .Porzingis told a player not to sign with dallas because it blows to play with Doncic. We have all played with chuckers and it sucks.

    • @venti3119
      @venti3119 Před měsícem +3

      College ball is not popular outside of 3 weeks in March.

  • @Bmart402
    @Bmart402 Před 23 dny

    This is really really really obvious. The reason not every NBA team doesn’t have a Kristapas or KAT is because that many don’t exist. Not enough floor stretching bigs exist to change college offenses League wild

  • @GarrettBroadnax
    @GarrettBroadnax Před měsícem

    IT'S NOT A REAL SHOT. It's that 2K "I accidentally held the joystick too long when I was tryna crossover" shot.

  • @timhansen4739
    @timhansen4739 Před měsícem

    Is JJ ever coached college that team would be elite just because that play book would be so different

  • @selfishstockton6123
    @selfishstockton6123 Před měsícem

    It’s not about lack of innovation. Players these days just don’t have the desire play even shadow defense

  • @davidparks4835
    @davidparks4835 Před měsícem +4

    NBA basketball today has no defense and too many three point attempts. Lack of getting back on transition defense, lack of helping the helper on defense, lack of offensive creativity, too much spacing which makes bigs innefective and not able to do valuable dirty work such as rebounding and boxing out. This creates a lack of second chance points which means less offensive rebounds. Teams just run up and down the floor and shoot a long range three wit no one at the basket to get missed shot attempts. Just running up and down the court jacking up shots and not working the ball inside the post and out to shooters on wing is disastrous. Yes, there are more possessions on offense today, but not longer and efficient ones of the older days. All of that stuff worked for Golden State with KD, Steph, Klay. But not every team has multiple players who can shoot like those guys. That’s what teams fail to realize. Use what you have. For example, if you have a bunch of big guys with talented post skills and passing, work the ball in the post and make plays for them. Hard to watch the game now. Why would you want someone like Shaq to shoot threes and miss.

    • @davidparks4835
      @davidparks4835 Před měsícem +1

      Everyone who wants a productive modern style team should watch teams like the Kings. Mike Brown has a fast paced offense, but it is effective unlike many of the other fast paced teams in the league. Brown allows Domas Sabonis to drive into the paint, work in the post, and pass out to wing shooters. The whole offense is built around Domas, which allows for multiple defenders to collapse on him, Domas to pass out to wing shooters, and get free throws from fouls on him inside the paint. It is hard to succeed without a reliable inside presence, because the defense will just be able to deny shooters from getting the ball. If teams know that you never going to throw the ball to your 7 footer in the post, why would they ever guard the paint?

  • @moses0686
    @moses0686 Před měsícem

    First, they aren't wrong. The college gsme csn be rough to watch
    Second, Why should they change and bring these concepts in? Most college ball players aren't going to the NBA. They are there to go to school. Again the vast majority. Basketball should be the easiest part of the day.
    My thing is there should be two systems. One for the guys that are judged to be very likely pro prospects where you are taught a more pro style game along with your education. Basically the academy system similar to Europe along with the system we know as amateur sports for those the rest.

  • @35inTHEwood
    @35inTHEwood Před měsícem

    They literally describing USC at the end

  • @vincentnorris9627
    @vincentnorris9627 Před měsícem +4

    I hear you guys talking about how hard it is looking at college basketball game but truth be told it is hard watching the NBA. NBA team do not play any defense until the playoffs and/or if they are trying to make the playoffs.Let not talk about the All Star Game. I cannot remember the last time I watched the All Star Game.

    • @vision-gc4hy
      @vision-gc4hy Před měsícem

      The All Star game is a meaningless exhibition regardless of how competitive it may or. may not be.

    • @toob_noob4381
      @toob_noob4381 Před měsícem +1

      Lazy take.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 29 dny

      Casuals like you been saying this for at least 40 years. Gimme a break.

  • @euphegenia
    @euphegenia Před 23 dny

    Innovate towards what? Either iso or pick and roll on every play? Please.

  • @icandy5593
    @icandy5593 Před měsícem +36

    They finally said it! College ball sucks ass. 28 secs of passing the ball around the 3pt line, dump it to the post, kick out, back in, around the 3pt line, 2 secs left... Shoot a 3... Miss

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 Před měsícem +5

      Same thing can be said about old nba games

    • @troylee4196
      @troylee4196 Před měsícem +4

      Yet top recruits still go to Kansas, don't develop and wash out in the league in 3 years

    • @savagecabbage138
      @savagecabbage138 Před měsícem

      @@troylee4196Kansas hasnt been recruiting 1 and dones for years

    • @Vichinsky-ox8px
      @Vichinsky-ox8px Před měsícem

      ​@savagecabbage138 I don't think top one and done recruits want to go there.

    • @Idkyou89
      @Idkyou89 Před měsícem +3

      @@mattsell2361nah this trash ass no defense era is unwatchable

  • @benjaminpollock1493
    @benjaminpollock1493 Před měsícem +6

    We don’t post up anymore… with the exception of THE DEFENDING CHAMPS AND A PERENNIAL MVP CANDIDATE!
    Most teams don’t post up at an extremely high rate. But if you have a dominant big who can trigger doubles… you have an efficient offense. Don’t confuse an Epidemic of bad offensive bigs with a game that is evolving away from a big man.

    • @cptfwiffo
      @cptfwiffo Před měsícem

      Spot on. Also, them saying a leaner is not a real shot... that's a shooter talking. Shooting has nothing to do with hands, grace, skill, or touch. Only with ensuring you're square, repeatable mechanics, enough space to fire. In the post, it's different. If you're off 5% of your arc, it still goes in. It leads to a plethora of shots which are good enough on short distance, but impossible at a distance. Look at Hakeem, or Barkley, or the Mailman. They did all sorts of somewhat weird shots, where they found a tiny hole in the defense where they could toss the ball through. All the up and under, the reverse, the baby hook, they are possible nearby. That is all touch, remaining stable through contact, skill, and grace.
      You can say Shaq was a beast, but he also had a pretty touch near the rim (but it fell into the mariana trench 5 feet out)

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 Před měsícem +3

      their point is that only the best bigs or somebody in a mismatch is worth posting up, while in college you regularly see them run a play where the ball gets chucked in to an unskilled big. it's the same as the midrange, you wouldn't want to run a play where the goal is for a mediocre shooter to get a midrange look

    • @mattschurenko3032
      @mattschurenko3032 Před měsícem +1

      Great big men will always be able to dominate in the paint. Posting up is a great part of the game. Just because Lebron never had a post game doesn’t mean it’s obsolete.

    • @paragonproductions6322
      @paragonproductions6322 Před měsícem +1

      That is an exception though. What they are saying is that in college, the team doesn't have anyone close to Jokic or Embiid's level and they are posting up for no reason.

    • @mattschurenko3032
      @mattschurenko3032 Před měsícem +2

      How about player development? Maybe more players should learn how to post up and college seems like a good place to learn things.

  • @stephenbell5600
    @stephenbell5600 Před měsícem +1

    Nothing those guys said is magical or something a person that has played or does play doesn't already know. The reason bigs are horrible now and should get the ball in the post is because they are completely undervalued and no one develops their game anymore. Any good big man now would absolutely destroy the game nowadays because the game is soft.

  • @just-a-random-person-on-utube
    @just-a-random-person-on-utube Před měsícem +16

    bron gonna be a good coach in a few years

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +10

      I doubt he'll ever become a head coach. I think he'll get his own team as soon as he retires and then he'll run that and even though he'll probably give advice I don't think he'll actively try to coach.

    • @andrewroberts7428
      @andrewroberts7428 Před měsícem +1

      @@rangergaming8316 i think you're right, but lebron would be a phenomenally good coach

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem

      @@andrewroberts7428 I have to agree with you on that.

    • @akwumba1
      @akwumba1 Před měsícem

      ​@@rangergaming8316he ain't got enough money to own a team.

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem

      @@akwumba1 he's an investor in Fenway Sports Group which owns the Boston Red Sox, Liverpool and many other teams making him an owner of those teams as well.
      They've made it clear that they're looking into getting an expansion team in Las Vegas and that LeBron will as co-owner be overseeing the operations of the team.
      This has been known for quite some time. LeBron is also a billionaire on his own so while he may not have enough money to buy a team by himself, he certainly will be a co-owner in the next few years.

  • @dee05hoop
    @dee05hoop Před měsícem

    And it’s ironic that all the concepts they are referring to derives from college b-ball…Princeton Offense, Jay Wright, Beilein etc…all included DHOs, slips and back door cuts…stop acting like these NBA dudes “changed” the offensive actions…A lot of these things can be said due to to obvious rule differences in both NBA and college

  • @comeonna9361
    @comeonna9361 Před měsícem +1

    That unc game sucked last night.

  • @julionepomucenoguiao7513
    @julionepomucenoguiao7513 Před měsícem +4

    it's not a real shot lmaoooo

  • @seancunnigham7462
    @seancunnigham7462 Před měsícem

    American coaching philosophy has not updated from the 80's - 90's. they need to look at Yugo and Euro basketball to update their team tactics and play.

  • @2Big4Film
    @2Big4Film Před měsícem

    Whats UN stand for? Nebraska? nawww... what is it man ... I gotta search for that now ...

  • @afanofall3131
    @afanofall3131 Před měsícem

    Damn

  • @AndrewLeonard46
    @AndrewLeonard46 Před měsícem

    I played in college and I have had smart teammates, but I’ve also had some of the absolute dumbest teammates and coaches will still play them. Many bad college coaches

  • @Livefreeordont
    @Livefreeordont Před 27 dny

    “If you have a guy like Kristaps Porzingis” have these dudes never watched college ball in the last 10 years? How many college 7 footers can even make a shot from the elbow let alone hit threes

  • @jaytorr6701
    @jaytorr6701 Před měsícem +28

    Bron has almost 20 years of coaching experience. None Aside Spo, none of the coaches that got him to finals had any business being there.
    Edit: go watch a clip from Rondos interview with JJ. He described how in the bubble they were discussing that if they get Miami in the finals Bron has Spo and against Cs Rondo has Brad. As I said, Bron is a better coach than anyone he played for, aside Spo

    • @rangergaming8316
      @rangergaming8316 Před měsícem +9

      I would add Ty Lue to that list as well.

    • @Max-ys3xg
      @Max-ys3xg Před měsícem +3

      Even Spo was a rookie coach during Bron's Miami days. IIRC, Spo got the head coaching job at the end of the 2008-2009 season and was HC for only 1 season before Bron got to the Heat.

    • @boppyb2528
      @boppyb2528 Před měsícem +6

      I feel like this is wrong. You praised Spo so props to him. But what about Ty Lue, who everyone praises as a good coach. I believe Bron even praised Lue earlier this podcast or last podcast. Mike Brown just won CotY last year while also leading SAC to their first playoff series in over a decade and the year he coached CLE to the Finals, the Cavs had the 4th best DEF RTG in the league. Can't speak on Frank Vogel tho.

    • @jaytorr6701
      @jaytorr6701 Před měsícem

      @@boppyb2528 well, Ty, Brown and Vogel are good coaches. But not championship level coaches without LeBron. Look at their history.

    • @jaytorr6701
      @jaytorr6701 Před měsícem

      @@Max-ys3xg Riley so the talent. Phil Jackson was coaching in the CBA before the Bulls and won immediately.. Some people just get it.

  • @benjamin5726
    @benjamin5726 Před měsícem +1

    Stop it🙄 they both acting like the could be high level college coaches tomorrow

  • @user-bc1lv7hu6k
    @user-bc1lv7hu6k Před měsícem

    Why they hating on bigs that play in post tho

    • @swiftbluedragon
      @swiftbluedragon Před měsícem +1

      Alot of them just aren't good enough post players to justify it, or they aren't capable of playmaking from the post and overall, it's just inefficient because you bring your offense to a crawl for very little reason. It's fine as a last resort or if you want to give players a tiny break occasionally, but it happens more than it should.

  • @w00deey12
    @w00deey12 Před měsícem

    It feels like y’all are being fooled by the 1997 Utah Jazz offense. I don’t understand switching. Just force through

  • @justincady6563
    @justincady6563 Před měsícem +1

    Lebron : “yup, yup, yup. Yup. Yup. Yup.”

  • @chrisjohnson8228
    @chrisjohnson8228 Před měsícem

    Why does the nba keep running pick and rolls all day

    • @mayfield0707961
      @mayfield0707961 Před měsícem

      Simply because it’s hard to guard with the right personnel

    • @alysander1439
      @alysander1439 Před měsícem

      Soo many Variables in PnR especially High PnR you have a Good and Intelligent ball Handler it Makes it way Harder to defender because you can get a Great Look almost every single time...

  • @cato12
    @cato12 Před měsícem +6

    College basketball is so much better to watch than nba.

  • @lamichaelknighten3433
    @lamichaelknighten3433 Před měsícem +1

    lol firm believer that college basketball is better basketball than nba.. a younger kid will see more repeatable actions in college that can directly help his game rather than try to duplicate NBA step backs n shit.. and I like to see defense get rewarded and that’s definitely not a characteristic of the nba

  • @jack-st5rm
    @jack-st5rm Před měsícem

    Reddick is describing what Illinois did. driving straight into clingan all game

  • @gabrielcovington7651
    @gabrielcovington7651 Před měsícem

    Respectfully, if the big did to that the dho and rolled more it would just be the nba. Nba bigs are good for nothing productive. Minus a handfull. The post up while inefficient is beautiful. The nba game isnt great to watch honestly

  • @brenlee8787
    @brenlee8787 Před měsícem

    lebron mirroring JJ in conversation

  • @ryanfraser402
    @ryanfraser402 Před 27 dny

    Because the ones that do lose. Alabama plays an “nba offense” but couldn’t beat Purdue or UConn

  • @dee05hoop
    @dee05hoop Před měsícem +1

    I respectively disagree with their takes on the college game…Also they’ve verbally proven why I like the NBA less and less lol

  • @anasshahid224
    @anasshahid224 Před měsícem

    LeBron James speaking facts, college teams needs to innovate to succeed 100%

  • @brandonhinrichs4393
    @brandonhinrichs4393 Před měsícem

    College basketball fears change and parity like Diddy fears Gene Deal

  • @zoomflight3115
    @zoomflight3115 Před měsícem

    Wine is appropriate.

  • @ak.2394
    @ak.2394 Před měsícem

    “AINT NO PARTY LIKE A DIDDY PARTY”

  • @randyfuller3057
    @randyfuller3057 Před měsícem

    Bron is gonna take a page outta Shay Sharpe's book.. His next podcast he's gonna be sippin on Cognac Hennessy 😅

  • @Kobeinthe4th24
    @Kobeinthe4th24 Před měsícem

    They simply aren’t as good. Naive to the skill level considering they are two of the best ever at what they did. If they coached it for 2 years they’d realize

  • @anirudh_s17
    @anirudh_s17 Před měsícem

    Might be a casual for saying this, but isn't a ghost screen the same as handchecking, but on offense? Shouldn't the NBA ban this motion, or reverse the ban on hand checking?

  • @amigopuerco
    @amigopuerco Před měsícem

    Why change, when all the real talent they get leaves after 1 season?