Gravitas: Will Russia invade Finland next?
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- Finland's leaders have agreed to seek NATO membership 'without delay'. Russia has vowed to retaliate if Finland's membership bid is accepted. Will Putin invade Finland next? Why is NATO teasing Putin's red lines? Palki Sharma tells you.
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There’s an old saying in India: It is better to have a wise enemy than a foolish friend. It is for you to decide who’s who!
We were on EU foolish when we allow Russia gas, oil and trade in such quantities to flow. Thinking that what kept EU at peace will help Russia to also keep at peace and maybe a closer cooperation I was one of them believing hopping but water under the bridge we need to see now
yeah. no. i wouldnt want a wise enemy... A big chance of getting beaten in hard times. A foolish friend may cause you difficult times but they stand by your side. Loyalty is valuable in life regardless of intelligence.
@@xGodWontSaveUx that's the thing..u never know what a foolish friend can do!
It's like having a rabid dog..it's ur dog but u r at risk of getting bit as well
A wise enemy would be predictable..a fool for a friend not necessarily
And it is much better to have a wise friend and no foolish, irrational enemy. The latter being what Russia is. So what's your point?
@@xGodWontSaveUx You are confusing the intelligent enemy with a wise enemy.
How do you go from Finland and Sweden expressing a desire to join NATO after witnessing Russia's brutal invasion to "NATO aggressively expanding"??
Because that was a obviously biased narrative
Coz that was biased narrative & the neighbors can see now what Russian troops are made of
there are many Truths
Yea this channel is showing its bias with this one. WION won't ask the question of why Russia hasn't been able to ENTICE all those former Soviet Republics to align with it. Or why all those Warsaw Pact countries bolted the moment the Soviet Union collapsed. It might have something to do with what happened in Hungary in 1956 when it wanted to be freed from Soviet repression. Oh yea....it got brutally crushed. But WION spins NATO to being the problem.
No they are so called highly developed,highly prosperous and high iq people,if I will even ask beggar :should Finland join NATO?"he will definately say no,so called intelligence master people
"Sweden and Finland are rich countries that's why they get to join to nato and Ukraine doesn't" Ukraine's political status has been the most corrupted of europe even has been compared to Brasil and Colombia. Ukraine just didn't have the eligibility criteria of Nato's requirements, in the other hand Finland had it for a long time. They've just been against it, but not anymore.
the rich and powerfull can join the elite works the same way
Ukraine didn't join nato because nato don't want to rattle Russia
@@svs4305 It would likely be seen as too much of a provocation, yes. Although I disagree with Zebaa that claims Sweden and Finland gets admitted because they are rich no, they are admitted because they are part of the western world, an attack of either one of them would be seen as unacceptable by most western countries, and Nato or not, the US would likely go to war to push back Russia regardless. However, these two countries joining an organization (of which both are already unofficial members of) sends a message to the Kremlin that going to war will not improve the state security, but rather the opposite.
Yeah thats what people don't understand. They see what they want to see
Agree, but some how this lady acts like she doesn’t know that. But she does and for her to say that bullsht at the end is just unprofessional as a journalist!
What happened to diplomacy? A Russian "special milltary operation" happened. A stronghold on gas supplies. Threats for joining NATO as if Russia could tell Finland and Sweden what to do happened.
FJB
Exactly. As if Ukraine didn't favor diplomacy. I find this Indian news rather biased towards their weapons' supplier.
When the Soviet Union supplied Weapons to Cuba the United States invaded Cuba saying that it is a Threat to their national security. What right Does the U.S have to dictate what cuba can have and not have. Cuba is not even near the border of U.S.A but they still can say its a Threat but Russia should allow the NATO weapon right next to its border? are you Fuc**ing serious you hypocr*te?
Russia can tell Finland what to do. They signed a neutrality pact in 1992z
@@aekta888 Russia also signed a non aggression pact with Ukraine in the 90s in exchange for Ukraine’s nuclear weapons. I think the trustworthiness of the pact with the Finns has dropped a bit recently.
I am living in Finland. Until the point Russia invaded Ukraine, only 20% Finns wanted to join NATO. Now, the number is above 60%.
It’s not true. Ask yourself why they didn’t hold referendum
@@ebb_ there is no time. Kreml will try to sabotage this as much as they can. More time = more time for Kreml to act.
Why take the risk to join after seeing what happened to Ukraine. Is it worth?
I am 99% sure if war is there between Russia and Ukraine and Russia will be giving threat to them to not to join NATO but if both of them denied I am pretty sure Russia will heavily attack both countries as Russia had lost almost everything except India and China not condemnig and oil
@@josephEA47 You mean why take risk to not join after seeing what happened to Ukraine. Is it worth it? I don't see Russia doing anything to NATO coutry, but I do see Russian military in a non-NATO country.
Makes sense, US wouldn't want Russia forming an alliance with Mexico and deploying missiles over there in the name of a "defensive alliance".
Mexico even tried to be a part of United State bro.
@@Keyman135 u know what happened in Latin America when they were going to democratically elect a socialist leader " democratically".
Cuba is an ally of Russia and USA is only 90 miles away.
A very very good point@@fuego3630
Also USA have never attack Cuba. Inspite of this.
Mexico is not ruled by madman and causes no threat.
"One mistake and one misunderstanding and this could escalate into a nuclear conflict." This sent a chill down my spine.
A lot of people from Finland and other NATO countries have commented below on how this content was not well-researched or how it reflects only one side of the picture. This may be the case but I think everyone will agree the situation is not looking good. No idea how it can be de-escalated. I pray for Ukraine and the common people of Russia and hope that good sense prevails.
How de-escalate. Get into the heads of these idiot politicians that NATO is not their friend but rather the sales department of the Arms Trade that wins all wars and deliberately causes wars. Putin has only invaded countries that were being manipulated by NATO warmongers to threaten Russia. Just stop threatening Russia and all will be well.
With better leaders, especially in the west, Biden, boris, are clowns, they should be impeached, as an American I feel betrayed. They don't care about us, they're using us, support ukraine and if you question it your a traitor, they don't want diplomacy, they want war! Putin invaded but asked one thing, stay out of it, and what did the west do, join in. It can be desclated by smart leaders.
Sounds good to me, bot..
You should pray for the common people of Ukraine and Russia.. Fk Ukraine leaders
Yes, Russian leaders have gone insane, they are talking on Russian news about nuking Berlin, Paris and London and after all Russias Problems will be gone ... let's hope Finland joins before they invade
Also Finland and Sweden have been non member allies of nato for meny years. Practicing together, doing military operations together, being part of meetings ect... only thing what they dont have is article 5 ( attack one is attack on all ) That also makes that process much smoother and faster. Being already part of the system.
I've enjoyed watching WION reporting since it is not as biased as many other news. But you totally seem to lack the capability to imagine yourself in the position of a smaller country. I'm from Finland and lot of people here haven't been willing to join Nato because we've been living in a bubble thinking that there is no need for such defense in the modern world and even if it came to worst that we could defend ourselves. The bubble kind of bursted when we saw what Russia is doing and what they are capable of doing to their neighbors. We're not thinking about Nato's expansion or Putin's fears, we are thinking about our country's integrity and future in the situation that has changed a lot from our perspective.
Are you trying to extinguish a smoldering spark by dousing it with gasoline?
@@SmotritelMayaka29 maybe you should have asked putin that before he decided to invade ukraine, wasn't a very clever move was it..
@@user-lp9qj7ul1g What exactly should I have asked Putin?
Totally agree, Juha. Finland must strengthen Finland in the face of Putin's mad menance, mayhem and miscalculations.
This is a bias indian media outlet that bashes European and western countries
funfact: estonia, a member of nato is closer to moscow than finland and estonia is bordering russia, SINCE 2004.
Estonia is friendly to Russia
@@afroawesome
Still NATO member
@@baha3alshamari152 Allied one day, not allied the next.
What's Estonia got to do with Finland versus Russia?
Unless they can help the Fins if and when invaded or attacked by Russia, they're not relevant are they? The Fins were friendly with Russia, remember?
I bet you didn't.
They're with nato, Russia wouldn't dare bark at them😂
Finland 🇫🇮 will be remembered as the most happiest country in the world RIP🕊
People said rip for Ukraine too ...
The only country I see dying is Russia...Russians can not even travel to Europe anymore..each day they become more and more like North Korea. I am not aware of too many countries that are envious of North Korea's world status. This is not going to end well inside Russia.
@@blackss841 There is one tiny problem. Russia is damn huge. You can isolate Cuba, you can isolate North Korea. But, damn it, you are trying to isolate 1/8 of the sushi that you have actively introduced into your economy over the past 30 years.
Sixty years ago USA intended to use nuclear bombs on Cuba for its safety as Russia intended to install or had installations warheads in Cuba.
Russia is reacting the same way for its frontiers protection or threat.
On this trajection the world particularly Europe is near its devastation and the experts do not care of the nuclear threat in Europe starting in Finland as they did for war/invasion of Ukraine.
Please think and meditate.
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You don't know history precisely. US put warheads in Turkey and soviet union put nukes in Cuba. Both deescalated by taking them back
world war has begun
We've had 1000 years to think and meditate on Russia conquering indigenous Finno-Ugric territories and genociding our people
WION should improve their analysis. For a country to join NATO or the EU, there are terms and conditions which Ukraine falls short of. For NATO, you do not import a running territorial dispute into the alliance. Ukraine already had a dispute with Russia about Crimea. They are supposed to settle that first. Ukraine has had challenges with corruption in the army. NATO can't admit a country that still has unclear accounting procedures in the army, they are supposed to improve that. More Obstacles stand in Ukraine's way to EU membership.
Very well said. I have also noticed quality issues with WION.
well said!!
But as of now,NATO/US will pass it,even Ukraine has a separatist movement in that country.expect it to pass.Its US/UK plan if other NATO member will disapprove it,then it will not assist NATO anymore.😇😇😁😁
It is complicated. NATO can waive the rules if they need to. You are right about Ukraine's issues regarding corruption..which Zelensky was voted in to fix actually and were on the road to it when Russia invaded.
@paper planeRead your open sources of information. Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2008. A number of reforms were proposed by NATO before this could happen. While Ukraine was working on reforms, Viktor Yanukovich was elected president in 2010. He was pro Russian and he abandoned the process taking Ukraine 10 steps back. Influenced by Russia, he enacted more pro Russia policies and wanted Ukraine to remain neutral outside NATO. He was toppled by protesters in 2014. Petro Poroshenko was elected after that who tried to restart the process of NATO membership and that's when Crimea was annexed, 2 separatist armed groups started in the east further complicating the process
I really enjoy the way you deliver the news... but in this case you should read up why Ukraine/Moldova/or any country in an existing conflict are unable to join NATO. There is a reason Russia started a war with each of its neighbour and creates separatists regions.
I'm not a big fan. She is an alarmist. Any type of news she delivers will set you in a fight-and-flight mood.
@@homealone1607 True. Sometimes they do more balanced, common sense reports - sometimes they're extremely biased & propagandistic.
@@dyawr how so ?
@@ybggorot1912 Which part?
The real reasons are being discredited and okayed down
I have to disagree with this reporting. Nato can’t grant Ukraine nato membership right now due to obvious reasons, they r also pretty corrupt. Finland/Sweden are now allow to “walk-in” into nato membership is because the threat of a Russia invasion is very real now, who will want to take the risk they will not turn around and look at finland and want a piece of it as well? Just my thought
50 years we have alrdy living in paece with russia. what danger r u taking about.
@@kinejepjepjepjep3387 Me too i dont understand it, but i yall stay in peace. Rússia have withdraw part of they troops from Ukraine that should mean something
@@kinejepjepjepjep3387 Russia plans to expand
@@sokuralife what r u talking about its nato nit russia whu has been expand . They broke promise. Nato should not even exis after soviet unit collapsed.
@@kinejepjepjepjep3387 Soviet union collapsed for a reason and NATO is necessary for Russian threat
Finland and Sweden are more established and stable Western European democracies than Ukraine. We in Europe would like to see Ukraine as a member of the EU. But they have a very long, long way to go before they are in position to meet the necessary standards of the EU. I have no doubt they can do it and I hope they will join someday. But I think it is a long way off.
@@rami8896 NATO is a different story. I should have been clear - I was referring to Ukraine joining the EU, as discussed in the video.
Ukraine joining NATO would be great, but the consequence of it will be NATO instantly being in a state of war with Russia, which although increasingly possible, is the last thing anyone wants. Unless you’re seeking Armageddon that is.
As the general said, you can’t enter a broad coalition/alliance like NATO when your country is in an actual state of conflict.
Furthermore, Russia will never accept or tolerate Ukraine being a part of NATO without all our war. Just my opinion of course.
hovor za seba ze my chceme ukrajincov do eu,si v zivote ukrajinca nevidel,nic neprinesu len vacsiu biedu,my sme v eu viac ako 18rokov a nedosiahli sme ani len standard ktory je na zapade,stale sme lacna pracovna sila a jedna z najskorumpovanejsich krajin,ukrajina bude to iste ak nie horsie
Lol. What European Union standards do Finland and Sweden fail on?
@@SuperYoman100 Well none, of course. This is in regards to Ukraine
Turns out when you attack one of your neighbors for seeking protection from you, your other neighbors will also seek protection from you… Putin out here playing checkers sheeesh
If your neighbours want to join a defensive aliance, they don´t pose a threat to you, they fear you.
Russia has made the blunder of the Century!! Finland and Sweden have never wanted to members of Nato but Putin gave them a reason to. They are both formidably armed countries. So a wanker like you have got this all wrong!!
NATO hasn't been a defensive alliance since the fall of the Soviet Union.
It's more of a fear of getting everyone killed on both sides.
@@ryancottle1563
Can you expound how it isn't a defensive alliance? If your argument is because it has nukes, it's because it has to have them as long as countries like NK, Russia and China have them.
@@MrEvol94 nato expanded after the Cold War, why is it even a thing now that Soviet don’t exist anymore.
This lady asks the questions it wants to ask and subsequently tries to answer them accordingly, while assuming her questions to be based on the correct assumptions. For example, when she asks the question why Ukraine's application is not as soon and swift (compared to Finland and possibly Sweden) and why EU membership is neither for Ucraine, she basically is insinuating (possible double standards?.) The answer is pretty straight forward (and as an informed reporter should know), read the conditions and mandates for EU (and NATO) membership. That is where you can read the answer. Why did you not ask why Turkey (NATO member) was still denied EU membership. The list of conditions is long, but some are very often cited: Rule of Law (non discriminative) and Corruption. In a nutshell there are economic, social, political and legal frameworks (to name the most important ones) to abode to as a member country. The EU have been critical about these issues vis a vis Poland and Hungary lately..... So, please do your homework because your question can easily be answered by decent research and reporting.
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Buddy LOL. You just said it the other way around :) Basically - no corruption and rule of law - is a direct product of somewhat being rich :D
@@zeljkobanovic4398 “ regarding the Rule of Law and corruption “ better now?
"NATO obsessed with expansion". I disagree. NATO does not want to expand, threatened nations want to join the alliance.
Nato is the biggest bully on earth, they are the reason this world is going to end in nuclear war
Name "NATO" itself is a threat and disturbing 😳
The biggest threat to nations is the US regime and their puppets in NATO who killed more than 30 million people in invasion wars and sanctions since WW2.
Why don't they admit Taiwin?? It's a full democracy unlike Urkaine. And most ASEAN countries they r threatened by China. Don't tell me it's for North Atlantic ocean countries.. NATO is a rasicts and Russia phobia block.. dat is what I consider..
@@prakashkr2214 China only claims what is their traditional territory.
US regime supports 70% of dictatorships in the world and invaded dozens countries that are none of their business.
Killing millions of people.
Great coverage, but also very inaccurate conclusions at the end. Do not forget that before the invasion Finland and Sweden were reluctant to join NATO and majority of their citizens were against it. Things have changed AFTER the invasion.
Everything that tend to show of Spain as EU leaders, are worse case scenario corrupted mindsets of the moderate PSOE left wing Spaniards. Like Borell and Solana.
Agreed, plus many of the 'expanded members' wanted to join, not forced. Wion needs to think WHY these countries wanted to get away from Russia.
But the question is why were citizens against it, if it were just a thought of not needing it, it would be a different story
War on two fronts...just Russia? Not Iraq, not China?
But didn't they see the reason for the war? It was due to Ukraine's intentions of joining NATO. That's what kicked things off in 2014. This is both a defensive measure and also a clear provocation and might actually lead to WW3.
Putin : we don't want Ukraine to join nato
Result : Sweden and Finland joining nato
Next step nucular war
Next step world war 3
@@raymondgreen5700 next stop ur balls nuclear, putin don't have the balls to go nuclear, he be killings his Russian trolls along with himself 🖕😉
@@raymondgreen5700 will be so cool. Big flash and no more pain.
@@raymondgreen5700 Nocturnal LOL
Something you didn't mention: To join NATO you have to be free of any border disputes. This is NOT the case with Ukraine. For that reason alone Ukraine could not join NATO. Sweden and Finland do not have this problem. Was your omission an error or deliberate?
Then y has Turkey been inducted in nato despite its Cyprus occupation and dispute
@@mohitaggarwal7583 Good point. But the border in Cyprus is not the border of Turkey, as far as I know, and anyway I think Turkey was a NATO member before the problems in Cyprus began.
@@mohitaggarwal7583 Turkey became member in 1952, the border dispute with Cyprus in 70s
Free of any border disputes? Then why are there constant maritime tensions between Greece and Turkey in the Aegean Sea? Why is there the constant Turkish threat against the Greek islands in the eastern Aegean Sea? What about a possible conflict between Greece and Turkey, both NATO members? And in case of conflict between two NATO members, what will be NATO's response?
@@Yannisastra Don't know.... Maybe you should ask Jens Stoltenberg.
My question is, if NATO had a vivid and good intentions for Russia, why then did the NATO Refused the proposal of Russia Joining NATO?
LOL. You listen to too much Kremlin state TV - Russia has never applied to join NATO and for good reason. To be a member of NATO you must be and promote democratic values - Russia is completely autocratic and become more so under the fascist dictator Putrid. Who locks up or murders anyone who disagrees with him.
It would have solved all problems. And russia did not have to fear nato presence anymore.
The mistakes people made in the past have not been learned so we are now bound to relive the mistakes again.
So in the end we are no better then the people who lived in 1940.
Yes. Multiple times.
Because letting in such a strong country with very corrupt politicans would be a threat to NATO itself. One thing is a small corrupt country like Albania, another is Russia. The Russian politicians are a threat not only inside the country but for other countries as well.
@@metodiusm428 but then… why the US is in?
I used to doubt Putin's concerns about the intentions of NATO...I can't say that my view is still the same. Putin has a point here, anyway Finland and Sweden should get ready because Putin Always Keeps His Word No Matter The Cost.
I think now everyone is seeing western hypocrisy. I mean cmon the guys just wants one thing, no nato. And nato wants just one thing, defeating Russia. And tbh it's not hard to see that defeating Russia would come at a cost of thousands of nuclear missile soaring towards their nations.
@@j_r28 WE DON'T CARE THAT HE WANTS " NO NATO"!!!!! NATO WAS CREATED TO PROTECT AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION YOU NAIVE TROLL! Oh, the poor guy only asks for one thing my arse. Come on, Indian people are much smarter than this. You typing from MOSCOW, using an Indian name or something? Or are you twelve years-old?
You are so of in your analyze@@j_r28. NATO is not interested to defeat Russia. Severeal NATO countries have done alot of business with Russia and wants to have a peaceful relationship with Russia. The NATO countries and Russia have many more benefit to have a peaceful relationship.
However, Vladimir Putin is not interesting in this. NATO have not attack any countries in the EASTERN Border. And that is NATOs only boarder.
Hence, NATO have not attack any neighboring country at all. Russia have attack several neighboring.
There is a reason why Ukraine, Sweden, Finland, Georgien, Azerbaijan wants to join NATO.
All wants to join NATO as protection against an aggressive Russia that do not accept other countries.
Putin will destroy Russia by his word. What I'm saying is Putin is kinda dumb.
@@j_r28 You people just love to type right?
Nato is a defensive alliance. Admitting a member currently at war to a defensive alliance is tantamount to a declaration of war. For Ukraine to be admitted to NATO while they are at war would be anathema to the principles of NATO.
They wont accept Ukraine, but will Finland …
this defensive alliance has attacked libya and serbia in past. so please, educate yourself about history. nato had made a pact in the past which is broke by expanding in east.
NATO is nothing more than an obsolete military group that can be hostile to anything against its interests, and more specifically US interests.
@@adisj5696 it’s a defensive alliance … the offensive missions are a optional choice … that’s why not all nato countries has to join in all conflicts … the ONLY time they was obligated to fight was in afghanistan
Yes thats the current predicament. But Ukraine has been trying to get into NATO for a while, long before this war.
Finland is not Ukraine. The Finns have prepared for a new war against Russia since 1940.
They have 200'000 well prepared soldiers and one of the most modern armies in the world.
If Russia dared they would get a "warm" welcome
Russia will attack Finland through artillery, air fighters or nuclear weapons (the latter is certain). Not enough human resources for more invasion. Prepare to give "warm" welcomes! That's your life from now on.
@@NeutralDice If Russia goes nuclear on a NATO country Kremlin will be turned into dust.
Putin knows that
Finland has gotten along for decades with their "crazy" neighbor. I don't think this is wise at all. Ukraine, even if it "wins", has lost. Putin could defeat the west by " losing"' wars, so the trophy isn't always worth it.'
But when that crazy neighbor is willing to kill a neighbor which historically is much closer than Finland, that raises doubt where that crazy neighbor's new boudaries of behavior stops.
I don't see that path of defeating the enemy by losing your wars. I suspect it's just rethoric. Though a grandiloquent one.
@@tonysu8860 As long as you don't know the reason for the conflict, you are not able to make any sort of judgement. So don't fool yourself thinking you know anything :)
@@EuroUser1 Then you obviously fail to understand what happened in the past few months. I suggest to use internet.
Russia got sanctioned like crazy, yet the currency is stronger than it was 2 years ago meanwhile the west pays record high on gas (fuel), food etc...
Everyone except America and Russia is losing right now. It's stunning how most people fail to see and understand that.
@@almostanonymous8768 The currency is strong, but the reserves are low. Many Russian soldiers have died, and billions of dollars have been lost in military equipment. There's no way Putin can prevail, if Russia suffers another defeat or two, like the one in Ukraine. He would run out of generals too early!
And the West pays record highs. Yes. But I still fail to see how that may lead to a political defeat, from which Russia can benefit. Will the 1.5 billion Westerners suddenly revolt and demand its governments to surrender to Putin? In order to have cheaper gas? It hasn't happened in France. Nor in the British local elections....
Got to love how various media keep talking about "NATO's problematic wave of expansions."
These counties *ASK* to join the alliance, NATO doesn't invade them, it doesn't roll forces to the boarder and make threats about not joining.
So the better question that never seems to be asked is "WHY do these counties keep applying to join NATO?"
After all most only join for Article 5, the mutual defense pact. Now why would so many countries in eastern Europe be *VERY* interested in getting that?
Exactly.
Hahahahah.... " countries keep applying to join NATO " true but who created this situation ? Russia has been talking about it since decades about the expansion of NATO but NATO just doesn't care. What do you expect Russia will do ? just accept it ? What is the point of poking Russia every time if you really care about peace in the region ? this is what surprise me, the west is completely going on a single narrative, atleast try to think from a Russian prospective. Or are you one of those who belief the superiority of the west and no questions can be ask about what the west does ? This is a dangerous gamble the west is playing. This is not like the west invasion on Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan. If Russia retaliate, it will be the end of the world. It just need a one small mistake from either side and thats it, bye bye world.
U r a child bro ..and u r barely moving in ur bed...when u will learn how to speak and listen then u may understand this...u haven't seen the world yet...ryt now u r in front of ur tv consuming what ur government wants u to consume..
The only reason I can guess for them to want to ask for joining NATO is to slap the face of UNSC for being useless and allowing itself to be bullied by USA...
But that is not how Russia thinks and sees it, and they have their rights to think what they do, rights are not something the West designs, and neighbors need to recognise that or put themselves as a threat, Finland had not been threatened to date.
Ukraine cannot easily join NATO, unlike Finland. Because one criteria for joining NATO is there must not be any contested territory for any applying member. Russia knows this. They deliberately organized and supported separatists groups in eastern Ukraine. For that reason alone, Ukraine application for NATO is impossible. They have done the same thing in Georgia. The reason for Russia invading Ukraine is not simply about joining NATO. Russia wants to reclaim the old soviet Union. Putin is beyond diplomacy at this point.
WION also knows this perfectly. Sadly, they just push agenda... -__-'
They organizzate the separatists not only supported! This was a strategy choiced for Don Bass and Crimea on the path of Georgia example.
I was about to post something to similar effect but I checked and you had already done it. A lot of people speak highly of Wion news but I do believe they have overlooked something here and didn't consider it fully. Ukraine didn't meet the criteria for the aforementioned reason so therefore they couldn't join. NATO would of course considered Ukraines application had they met the appropriate criteria.
Putin refused both regions Federation despite referendums and requests for it . Georgia attacked their two unarmed undefended regions as well out of the blue , Russia just slapped their jaw and let them off with the warning . And they have no intention of taking back their Borats , they were all fkn albatrosses when they were Soviets , they're leeching off Europe now .
@@tl9223 welcome to the world of having to debunk WION. I’ve loved this channel from the on-site (before the millions of subscribers), but over the years I’ve noticed many gaps in the truth in their reporting, especially with Ms. palki. At one point the channel was banned for a few days, I DID NOT FEEL SORRY! There’s critical news that they purposely leave out to fit their narrative. But i still think they’re the closest to the truth.
The issue is, Russia is dealing with offspring who live in the 21st Century. Independence is a reality and being needy is frowned upon. No one wants to be owned. Not even Countries by old owners.
Your papa is always your old owner, don't try to change him .
Imagine a Europe without NATO.. I think there will be peace.
Usually I respect Wion but this time they dropped the ball on their analysis regarding Ukraine
Lol the same nato that invaded libya and bomb the middle east y’all care about yourself ohk
They have been dropping it in the last couple of videos. I used to like her
@@jeffmoorman4060 Why what happened?
India is pro putin basically. Wion is basically becoming like TFI global.
Here the Thing Wion is a Pro Indian news network.
Strongly disagree with the last point, Finland has simply not wanted to join NATO until the most recent conflict. Ukraine can’t join NATO at present because it’s in an active conflict, but it’s certainly strong enough to join in a time of peace especially now. There are other countries that are neither rich nor powerful who are still nato members. This narrative that NATO is coercing these countries looking to join just doesn’t hold any water outside of pro Russian media. They have to believe it because otherwise they’d need to ask themselves why Eastern Europe is choosing to do this.
she simply ignores that fact that Putin thought the undoing of the U.S.S.R. was a shame and has made statements about bringing it back. Now after their Ukraine invasion what the hell does she expect Eastern Europe to do?..
It is obvious these media outlets always report wack news and indirectly support Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
i agree whith you, and more than that, ukraine wanting to joint nato, or not whating to joint nato, still putin wants to have a control goverment in ukraine, and take their seas, and if let to do what they want, they would do the same when once the soviet union did whith no escuses about nato, when they invade and took their soroudig independent neibors countrys and impose comunism on them, i guess than to avoid a broader war if india was to be atack by china, india woulnd t want the west to come on their defense.
Then it will mean that Russia should attack Finland , because If they attack and started territorial dispute , only then they can't join Nato . Right ? So , don't bark If Russia attack Finland.
@@shayanraj7840 you’re exactly right, which is why Finland has gone out of its way to seek assurances from the UK and US during the application process to protect it from its rogue neighbor. Russias strategy of threatening and destroying its neighbors in order to fight a proxy war with the US and NATO is unjust, Ill bark as much as I please.
Omo I swear I don't think there is any country that has experienced more wars than Russia😂😂😂😂.
They've even invaded Finland before.
"Sweden and Finland are rich countries that's why they get to join to nato and Ukraine doesn't..........." How easy to say it, its not about rich, its about a certain standard must be fullfilled, and Finnland and Sweden even overfill it. And not NATO seeks expansion, but countries are asking to join. Isn't it!? So, why this missleading coments?
This news channel is becoming more biased with the day, even tho they claim to be unbiased all the time.
Really hopeless , just a extension of Russian media
Because if NATO countries wouldn’t come to the rescue of one poor Ukraine as a knightmare in shining armour, Finland and Sweden would never think of being a part of NATO, knowing NEUTRALITY is the best option.
As a chess game West believes it’s winning- Putin is presented to the world as a baddie, Hitlerlike, sanctions on Russia you can count in thousands, after the vaccines🙏🙄 many countries began to buy weapons from U.S. again in billions ;isn’t there anything better for business as EXISTENTIAL THREAT- first your health is in danger, now your life is in danger and we, US&UK are here again, to save the world!!! We’ll show you where the true power lies!
And so web is censored and mainstream media flooded with lies, and US&UK dream of their crypto paradise🙃
Ukraine will be unfortunately “a victim of a genocide” by their very own brothers, that’s appalling right?🖤
Or they all underestimated one little unpredictable pawn Vladimir Putin, the guy who sees his country as his mother, father, who doesn’t just say it, he actually feels it.
And he acts accordingly- that’s why they never comprehend his thinking and that’s why Russia, no matter the western lies, will succeed.
It has been written in the stars 💫 🙃
sadly many indians have a romantic vision of russia, totally brainwashed from the cold war period.
Everyone is choosing their sites, if no one reacts to this we end up in a much bigger war
choosing web sites?
@@obionedogan bro he on something lol maybe Russian vodka
Chris: I will go for porn sites xD
The countries who are fighting Russia are the one who colonized the whole world and since then never cease to shed blood
@@obionedogan 😂😂
The Finns aren't taking any chances especially when the Kremlin might attack them too without warning. Pretty much Russia vs NATO at this point as Cold War Two.
Its not about taking chances. They are being pressurised by other european countries and usa so they an deploy missiles near moscow.
long live the finns, they stomped on russians when they invaded in 1939 and they will continue to do so.
@@abhyudaytiwari630 Lol the only one pressuring them is Putin. Wake up!
I call bullshit…Russia has not bothered Finland since 1939 so why provoke Russia?
Russia was complaining about NATOs expansion into their borders so they invade Ukraine to make its occupation closer to NATO.
Everyone's a gangsta until Russian tanks start rolling into your city
I hope so .
Europe never expected such self destruction.
Russia neither.
Yeah if we look back the ww2 tragedies in Europe , cannot even think about it .
You'd think they'd have learned after World War I.
@@lindachamuel5098 have you imagine ever that when cat think all doors are closed for her then she will attack with full force for their existence.. you guys just do to shut all doors for russia..at the end russia will bite you 😪😪..... can you answer me how many nuclear weapons russia have and USA... 😪
@@jumpingsaucepan hello source ? I assume Putler the ex KGB agent that he ordered the deaths and imprisonment of people he dosen't like realy cares about his own people.
Russia should also recruit Mexico and the South Americas to have Russian missles aimed at the US. The Americans wouldn’t mind.
And what would Russia offer them? They are getting gutted.
Mexico will do what is best for Mexico .......what ever good will sucking up to Russia do?
Lol sounds about right
Basically how would the US like to be surrounded by pro Russian Federation.
Russia did recruit Cuba. But USA never Invade Cuba like how Russia Invading Ukrine right now.
little hint: in the moderation text the anchor speaks about american weapons - but the tank which is shown in the video feed is a german leopard 2
Nato is "agressively expanding", really? So much pressure they put on Finland for three decades to join Nato? Oh wait, they didn't! And Finland was eligible to join all this time but didn't? It somehow seems as if Putins aggression has changed the opinion instead of Nato's "aggressive expansion"? Could it possibly be that waging a war against a sovereign European nation could create a change of opinion in European countries? Is it possible, that waging a war could make people feel like they need better protection? Hmm, no it must be Nato's aggressive desire to expand! Putin did nuttn wrong!
I assume that you have neighbours next door to you where you live?
If you considered them to be thieves and thugs, would you put extra locks on your front door, maybe have CC cameras installed or maybe even buy a Rottweiler?
Sounds like history is repeating itself. Britain gave Poland assurances that it would assist them if attacked. How did that turn out?
I'm from Singapore. Britz abandoned us when the Japanese forces took Singapore! UK didnt care about her colony back then why would they care about Sweden and Findland? Did they care about Hong kong? Nope!
It becomes part of World War 2...
How dude? what happen?
@@TheAmelito123 ask Germany
@@TheAmelito123 Germany and Russia attacked Poland, then Germany attacked Russia. England attacked Germany.
“Why isn’t their (Ukraine) process smooth and swift?”
Does this lady not know NATO doesn’t admit members with an ongoing border dispute?
WION community likes to be narrow minded and critise any possible move.
@@deividasnavickas I noticed it’s news for Putin apologists.
Ukraine first applied for membership in 2006 but was vetoed by Germany and France. If they were accepted back then none of this would have happened.
@@almac9203 Ukraine was not even remotely close to meeting all the requirements necessary for being admitted into NATO at that point. Aside from a lack of corruption, Finland’s armed forces are more integrated with NATO than many actual members. It’s apples and oranges.
@@DiviAugusti absolutely, especially the part about going against the expansion, there's absolutely nothing wrong about it, unless you got a particular interest in those countries. Which we know Putins does. As neighter Yeltson or Gorbachev was against it.
Russia remember what hapenned in 1939 when Finland was invaded...........
let's hope so
Imagine threatening your neighbors and invading them and then getting upset when your neighbors want to join an alliance to prevent that which you are threatening.
@ Joseph... It was all calm from the very beginning until one decided to make a move to threaten the other. Why not go back to the very beginning. Will U love it when U have a tiger on the next side of the fence. U see, why keep expanding when U agreed first not to expand. Is it ok for China to set base in Mexico at this time? How will the Big Sam feel?
🌎🤝🇺🇦🤝🇷🇺🤝🌍
@@ericgyimah7590 You left something out. You forgot to mention that Adolf Putler invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Ukraine did not invade Putler's dictatorship.
If you would of done a little more journalism you would of read that the reason Ukraine is not a member and is not getting the same treat meant as say..Finland is because the Nato Charter explicitly says in order to Join a country must have NO territorial Disputes. this is not the case with Ukraine for obvious reasons
Well then mister online expart 😂... Russia can easily Invade Ålan island of finalnd and create Territorial dispute easily to prevent it from Joining NATO
@@vishalbharti3701 they could, but there is a mutual defense pact already
@@vishalbharti3701 they could, but there is a mutual defense pact already
Then all this carnage could have been avoided by NATO by explicitly asking Ukraine to mend the fences with Russia.
Lol you need to read the map then
Thank you for explaining it, I just love the way you say the truth
Why can't all the countries in the world form an alliance?
It's a possibility. We just need to know the when part
I dont think russia will invade finland maybe in 10 yrs or 20 yrs, or maybe iff putin still in power
Nato grows if members are taken in, it does not "expand". This happens voluntarily. Not a single border is redrawn and every single member keeps its own independent government and army.
wion are smol brain
I completely agree with you sir. Thank you for trying to inform basic common sense to the confused masses. I can't believe how simple this is and how soo many become confused by it.
So with Crimea the people had referendum to be with Russia.
Ahhhaa and on what basis Nato was created for and for whom?🤔
Literate urself
Wion certainly twisting the narrative a bit. Finland and Sweden have a history of not being corrupt, they are perfect for Nato, that is why they will be pushed faster then Ukraine who's history isn't quite as clean.
Without Russian weapons, the Cashmere and the rest of India would fall to China in a matter of months.
No one could analyse it better than palki;amazing...
How the hell will they invade Finland when they can't invade ukraine
They won’t - Finnish people are tough as nails.
Finnish will be Finished Helsinki will become Living hell with nuclear ashes 😡
The ending is completely biased. Ukraine has a complicated history with Russia unlike Sweden and Finland. There are no Russian majority speakers or citizens so it would be much easier to admit a country like that.
Yeah, so I’m absolutely agree with that!
Indeed, you can tell she has a complete biased.
Why doesn't the nato clearly mention Ukraine can't join nato? Isn't this war all about Ukraine joining nato?
@@msdolly6101981 They want Ukrain in Nato, but a Coutry within a Conflict or Dispute over their Border can not be accepted. Internal Separatist Or Neighborin Country, does not matter which.
@@msdolly6101981 No, I don't think it's just about NATO. Putin has never liked Ukraine being an indipendent state. He think Ukraine is russian. As well as other parts of Europe. He has always seen the resolution of Sovjet and independence of parts of it as a diaster. And want to formally or "silently" having control over them.
"Strong and rich countries get admitted into NATO but not poor Ukraine." This is a conclusion drawn before all facts are collected or at least stated.
For some reason as I was listening to her. I knew some how she was going to blame the USA or NATO. My thought didn’t fail. NATO has certain criterious n she knows that! I have listen to a few of her videos and some how it feels like she supports or agrees why Russia is doing what they doing!
WION : "Putin will not invade"
Putin : "Hold my beer"
Hold my bear 🤣
It's vodka bro
@@Bringmorehoes true
Nato is not a charity club and never wanted to be. Did you really have to point it out?
NATO won’t take members when their joining could be expected to trigger a conflict.
Yes she had to. A lot of European leaders are thinking that NATO is the charity organisation to go to against Russia.
So all those weapons for Ukraine aren't charity? If not who exactly is paying for it?
@@msdolly6101981 Everything is on loan. Ukraine eventually have to pay back all. Add that to Ukraine's existing 38 Bln USD debt, and suddenly the future look very bleak for them.
who give Putin the right to say who should join NATO
'Strength in numbers and unity'
It is not ' Smooth sailing' for Ukraine because they do not have the appropriate demonstrated RECORD of openness and transparency of their democracy. They are on the journey of moving from autocracy to democracy, and good for them. Don't look back.
If those were the real prerequisites, a bunch of nations in the Balkan region would've never entered NATO, let alone the EU...
@@Kosac07 😂 Like who, dear? Give me some examples. Cause it's clear you actually don't know what you're talking about.
Ukraine is going the way of the dodo.
One of the requirements to join Nato is no active border issues. Ukraine had border issues with Russia / breakaway sections. Nothing to do with how rich they are.
You are perfectly right. She knows, but she won’t mention that!
Yes, this video is more about sensationalism. Russia also said if Ukraine joine Nato, it would trigger the 3rd war. It is not Nato that is expansionning aggressively, it is countries that are threatened that feel the need to join Nato.
I don't call this good journalism, it's sensationalism to escalate and get views.
Same goes with the Finland and Russia
@@nitinsaini6394 if you're talking about the winter war, Finland lost a little territorie and it was over meanwhile in Ukraine their still fighting the russians since 2014 when they annexed crimean and the regions. Finland is ok to join
There is no requirement for that and if there is requirement why sleepy joe saying that he will make sure Ukraine will join nato and in 1997 sleepy joe himself told that nato should not expand eastward. You can watch that video.
Spot on as usual
this is just brilliant honest journalism, honestly Palki is just so straight talking and real about all of this
Have you watched the entire video? The last part is very inaccurate and biased.
Finland can do whatever they want.Who the hell is Russia to tell another country what to do?
Finland is just becoming another slave of the U.S
@@icariums1596 so what if they join nato ?They can do whatever they want .
Kind of like India is to Russia .
@@kevina5519 India abstained from the vote. It is nobody's b****. Secondly, Russia views Finland joining NATO as an existential threat to it. Russian foreign ministry has made it clear that Russia will respond militarily of this happens.
@@icariums1596 who cares about Russia what are they going to do fight nato?This entire war is getting old and I wish someone could negotiate a end to it but Putin not going to Listen to anybody.
Another sensationalist report. I used to like Palki's videos, those days are over. I'm going to skip these in the future and watch only the news.
You can't just go around joining the EU unconditionally and you definitely can't bring NATO into your territorial disputes.
You have to sort out the issues inside your country first. I'm sorry for the Ukranians but they didn't even have democracy before 2014. Belarus couldn't join either, not with Lukashenko imagining himself to be the king.
Exactly.
She fell off. Her news are now more sensational than being factual
Finland`s leaders can agree to seek Nato membership as much as they want. The Parliament makes the decision .
So did Ukraine but for them it's not fast and swift ? We are missing a point here.
@@jamespoda5621 border countries from Russia who seek Nato membership are an existential threat to Russia. Should Nato ignore that ? Is that the solution to a conflict ?
Im really scared beacuse i live in Finland with my family and i hope that Putin wouldnt attack Finland.
Well if Wion had done any research they would know that the reason Ukraine hasn't been excepted to NATO is because NATO doesn't accept new members if they have any conflicts ongoing in said country..Ukraine has been at war with separatists in the Donbas since 2014!! If that was the case then Georgia and Ukraine would have been NATO members already!!! 🙄
You're wrong
These separatists are caused by Putin so there is war in Ukraine so they can not join NATO. He does this in all the countries before he invades, it’s the Russian playbook
Also various NATO members actually accepted Russia's concerns and hence considered Ukraine and Georgia as questionable to invite. On top of that until 2014 and 2008 those countries were similarity split like Finland on whether to break with Putin or stay pro Russia.
@@jamiuabdulfatai1605 He is 100% right dude
Dude Indian news always gives fakes news. Notice they only talk about other nations and not there own.
The lesson is that when it comes to something as profoundly difficult as security sector reform, the UN security Council must keep in mind the limitations of UN peace operations and either scale up their commitment or just get out of the security reform game in post-conflict zones.
Lmao your pfp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like it
Russia should also keep in mind the limitations.
Russia should destroy Europe
BOT😮
Hopefully
sounds like the moderator was reporting accurately until she remembered she had the assignment to repeat the Russian position and throw in some "obsessed with expansion" to please her superiors. Overall the conclusion made no sense, Finland and Sweden are voluntarily joining because they are threatened by Russia not the other way around. Spinning it just makes them look stupid
Why should Putin be so afraid of NATO when he is having his own most powerful nuke in the world and if he is not a culprit?
His nuke will kill him too
Putin is right nato are a threat to his country in near future and yeah russ has a nuclear which can destroy whole nato if he wants but hes not coward like them, just think nato is ready to accept finn intres to join nato but same nato still didnt accept Ukrainians proposal why?? Im not insulting soilders of ukraine but nato thinks that finn army will be tough for russ and its a easy way to target Russia, if finn joins the loss will be to Russians and Finnish ppl, usa president and nato secretary will just chill with pop corn and coke watching to neighbors fighting with each other, but yeah nato will supply wepons amd put sanctions and provoke world that putin is evil and these ppl are saints🤦
He is not afraid 😏 of nato he just doesn't want them anywhere near there borders.
Uh let's see 👀 we had the same scenario many years ago with Cuba but the USA was acting aggressive just like Russia is doing now .maybe it was better if a nuclear war happened many years ago because in the end it was unavoidable.
To throw oil on fire maybe putin 🤔 should replay that scenario again with Cuba see how USA acts.
@@squeezerdsqueezerd2427 exactly and also i wish russia must approach Mexico for some business purpose, only then usa will realize how it feels to poke someone a**.
@@squeezerdsqueezerd2427 you say this while he is at USA front door.......Cuba
Ukraine applying to the EU was NOT denied. Just the procedure is quite bureaucratic, so it can take some time...
Yeah I don't get this point either. Joining EU takes time, and EU would be crazy to accept a country that is currently in war and there are no knowledge on how Ukraine will look afterwards. Maybe Russia happens to win and they'll have a Pro-Russian president? What then lol
Ukraine was supposed to be in EU but its former president backed out that led to protests
They tried to apply since 2000s lmao stop the crap ..Nato just plays games....
@@RealPlatoishereFirst of all NATO and EU are different. Nonetheless Ukrainian government wasn't stable so EU and NATO members were hesitant to let them in.
@@RealPlatoishere this may be so. But in Wion's reporting, the statement seemed to refer to the current state.
Even though Turkey is currently threatening to block the admission of Sweden and Finland to NATO, there are other options. Individual countries can sign a defense agreement with those countries. The UK has already made such an agreement. Not all NATO countries would do this, but I believe the majority would.
A lot of people already think Turkey should be expelled from NATO because of how radicalized some segments of that society have become and because of how problematic Erdoğan's conduct has been for the West. Personally, I'm against further isolating the Turks, but it will be harder to convince NATO not to do that if he's going to thwart everybody else's will in this area on top of everything else that the West dislikes about his policies and actions.
@@gregs.2679 expel them. let them see what happens. they're arrogant and entitled.
Its not only Turkey also Hungary and Croatia are against Finland and Sweden so 3 NATO countries which are against them
😁😁😁
Try to find out WHEN AND WHY is turkey A member of NATO. Then you might correct your “wise” comment.
Let finland and sweden exercise freedom to what they want to do
You are seeing what you want to see, not what is actually happening. NATO obsessed with expansion? Sweden and Finland voluntarily applied. No NATO tanks rolled into Finland to "expand" NATO. And who says the Ukrain is denied membership op the EU? This process takes years for ANY country, and requires that a country lives up to certain standards. Ukrain can't join NATO because it has a conflict at its borders. All of this is pretty transparent.
spot on
Well said
That female broadcaster just says whatever comes to her mind, it's just crazy.
NATO is an offensive organization, if you are weak they won't hesitate to attack just like Serbia and Libya... Russia has right to attack if Finland join NATO
@@polasbeatz she's indian dude indians support russia
I pray for Finland so that it can carry on it's journey to be World happiest country
You wishes will come true. Nothing to worry about. Peace and love from Finland :)
@@jaccexx7565 same 2 u bro from INDIA 🇮🇳🇫🇮
Hopeless comments
@poshu poj On the contrary mate, kind words and encouragement provides hope.
@@poshupoj6827 may be Your comment is hopeless buddy
It won't work 😕 😪
Never have I seen all this violence in the world at 1 given time
Finland have a standing army of 280,000 and a reserve of 900,000 who have been highly trained to fight the Russians, and Russia only. In fact, while Ukraine has a much smaller army and had been preparing since 2014, Finland have been preparing for nothing else but this since WW2, so not an opponent Russia would like to anger or poke right now, while being highly stuck in Ukraine.
If what we see from Russia in Ukraine is the best they can deliver now, then they would stand no chance against Finland that has a top modernized army that has been training for this since the last time they faced Russia.
Back then The Red Army had more than 1 million soldiers already deployed on the borders of Finland, before the mobilization, while Finland had just 33,000. The Soviet deployed 2,318 aircraft, including 1,044 fighters and 855 bombers and 395 others for strategic bombing, paratroop insertion, reconnaissance, artillery observation, and so forth.
Finland only had 114 out of date aircrafts, but fortunately, due to diplomatic efforts they were able to secure additional aircrafts assembled in Sweden, 30 from the UK, 30 from France, 29 from South Africa, besides Finland themselves buying 35 Italian Fiat G.50 monoplanes to take down Soviet bombers. The only organized foreign air unit to help out Finland was a Swedish volunteer squadron.
At the end, the Winter War cost Finland 24,923 dead or missing, while the Soviet fatalities numbered 273,000 dead, so more than 10 times more than ill prepared Finland. In fact, the combined Soviet casualties of dead and wounded was a quarter of the 1.2 million Soviet soldiers deployed.
This day and age, the army equipment of Finland is vastly more up to date and modern than that of Ukraine and what they have been receiving from NATO, so it's top NATO standard, and their very large army and reserves are vastly better prepared to face Russia, so if the Russian war machine is doing questionably in Ukraine, they would be totally pulverized in Finland.
You forget that the Russians will not wage war against others as against Ukraine (where it is trying to reduce the damage at its own expense). If they decide to attack before you see a Russian soldier, everything would be razed to the ground. Just pray to God that they don't suffer and decide that there is no hope for this world.
Russia may decide to do what US did in Japan
@Austin Flowers I really hope it doesn't come to that. US also threatened nuclear war during the Caribbean crisis
@@ViktorSuhov @Marko Gavric It's absurd that people are already dropping nukes in their mind without any aggression from Finland against Russia or anyone else. We in Finland have our own right to choose where we want to belong. Now it seems that there will be a new iron curtain between Europe and Russia, so we in Finland choose to be on the Western side where we are considered as a true friend in every way, and no threats have ever been made against us unlike Putin's comrades threaten us many times in a year. There are at least one to ten illegal border crossings by plane from Russia, and why? They want to threaten Finland and are being bullies. And the main reason for APPLYING Nato membership, is that Russia is attacking it's neighboring country.
If there's even one nuke used today, there will be hundreds of nukes used. In that case there will be a long lasting nuclear winter which means that the whole Eurasia will be doomed for eternity and actually that could be an end for all mankind because of winds and long lasting never-in-history-seen famine due to that. So people commenting this Putin's bullshit dropping nukes, do the math.
Here are so many Putin's Indian etc. trolls (incl. the news reporter), btw.
@@markogavric2247 - wrong, most of the Finnish military infrastructure and command posts are under ground, in mountains etc. constructed to withstand even nuclear war...
Even under Helsinki there is room for most of the cities people, they are actually well prepared, also regarding food and medicine.
A country under attack or with unstable borders cannot join NATO. The Ukrainians understood that. Their policy is to move toward NATO membership. Even without this war, they would have to resolve the pre-existing conflicts over Crimea and the Donbas.
That's nothing to do with Finland though...
@@kyloren3693 But it answers the question on "why didn't Ukraine join NATO?"
@@Hadrian8888 - No, but the reporter here told a lie, that Ukraine was denied because of economics...
So even WION has their own agenda here, trying to paint a wrong picture of both NATO and EU.
Putin monster
Goodness gracious me
Its Palkis best analysis I have ever heard.. Brilliant Palki
Whether a country is rich or poor is irrelevant. The US' expectation is that NATO members spend 2% of their GDP on their military. Expected expenditure is proportional to the size of the economy.
The existence of an alliance also provides for different countries making a different contribution. The Ukrainian military can boast of battle-hardened and effective troops.
You’re totally ignoring history the United States did not want Germany or Japan rearm except to be defensive. People also seem to forget that Russia was originally an ally of Germany during the world war II then the Germans turned on them
@@jgg59 Your comment is totally irrelevant. Germany was not a member of NATO under the Nazis. NATO didn't even exist. Japan has never been a member of NATO. The US may not have wanted Germany to re-arm in the decades after 1945, but it sure does now. And it does not want Germany to be a demilitarised ally of Russia.
This is 100% right and there is also some humanitarian rules that sweden and finland comply with for a long time now but ukraine does not, has not and probably will not for years comply to.
Christopher Barclay Pure nonsense.
For that comment about the distance from Finland to Moscow, I could be wrong but I believe Latvia and Estonia are already NATO members and closer to Moscow.
2nd biggest city of Russia St. Petersberg is just 100km away from Finland border…
@@BpositiveDoctor and Estonia's. Also weird since Putin is constantly threatening that multiple European capitals are within missile range of Kaliningrad for decades already
Yes you can throw rocks at Russia from Estonia
@@BpositiveDoctor Does that make any difference when missiles can go much farther than 100 km?
Correct, and those who do not onow any better believe every NATO member state in Eastern Europe has nukes, and they're all pointed at poor pretty baby poo-tin... I hear a giant baby screaming... wait, do you hear it? Whaaaaah!
They would be crazy to invade another country right now
Let alone a NATO one!
Is it Ganging up against one that's smart move?
The problem with this ,finland wasnt in any danger of invasion since they didnt want to enter nato, thats The whole point , by entering The nato alliance it increases their chances of getting invaded🤦🏽♂️🥴
@@williamthell5930 Bring it Orc, NATO eats Orcies for breakfast. Or stay in your country and we cool ok
@@greatgoon3620 yes
India still in complete awe of Russia. With what army would Putin invade Finland now..
What?!?! Why is the UK Prime Minister making deals involving war. Without asking the British people if they want this. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
I think what led to the invasion greatly was the infighting between the Donbass region and Ukraine, i dont think Finland has same issue
it doesnt change the fact that finland can join nato if they want to.
Also that dispute over those areas prevented nato to accept ukraine per their own rules
Right! Thats why Finland didn't need to join NATO.
@@helenali4938 NATO is defensive alliance so there is no threat to russia, but it will keep russia from destroying our cities like they're doing now in ukraine
@@petrikallio2485 what about serbia bombing- and usa is in nato - and usa have eliminated civilians in arab counry in their operations - and suprise - usa is involved in ukri war- and got bonuses from this wars - teaming up with fins - from across the world straight to russia brders - us politics look them up - biden boy lap top , clinton and kathy shelton case - all them have sick past! And human aid for ukris it was LOAN not free like they lile to call it - now ukr was like bate and will forever be slave to us paying alll this 40 000 000 000 back
Finland and Ukranie are 2 very different countries. Less than 10 years ago Ukranie had a Moscow puppet for a President and had a good amount of corruption. Not a good look for NATO or E.U. It's just now Ukranie has switched course and is doing better.
Whereas Finland has been stable, No corruption and no pro Moscow puppets of any kind.
Again, 2 different countries.
And the WW2 peace treaty between Finland and the Soviets says that Finland gets to keep its sovereignty as long as they remain neutral.
Breaking that treaty puts you at war with Russia automatically, have fun with that.
You might wanna watch video about Panama documents and Odessa massacre, if you think american puppets are better alternative
@@alen7480 Ukraine had an illegal coup in 2014, the east revolted, and Kiev started a civil war against the ethnic Russians. Then they were forced to sign a ceasefire called the Minsk agreement, which Kiev violated for 8 years.
Finland has been allowed to exist for more than 70 years under that treaty, and the Soviets, later the Russians never broke it.
Yes now Ukraine has an american puppet as a president and the corruption is no better than it used to be, they even sell humanitarian aid to their population instead of distributing it for free *facepalm*
Ukraine even last year very corrupted country. Nothing changed. That was what US democrats even told about Ukraine.
how can russia invade finland when they can't even my back yard
Invade? With what force?
I’m wondering of WION’s “professional” stance opposed to knowledge… seems Palki sure throws a snarky opinion OFTEN. That report was badly biased.
If Finland's want/will to join NATO -
Yes Russia will/may attack Finland 👍
palki & team make every pretense of professionalism but just behind that drama queen approach to what they call "news" lurks this crazy jingoistic fervour
What about western media ? How they glorified war after inciting n adding more fuel on 🔥. How US turned Russia next North Korea n Ukraine next Afghanistan. If western is not biased thn y don't they support Donbas n Luhansk separatists as they also want to get rid of Ukraine?
Why NATO was established ???
Palki claims to be unbiased but can’t even be honest with herself about this simple and plain truth and fact. What a shame!
Russia will not invade Finland Russia playing fear games 😅
Agreed. That how bullies work, intimidation and fear.
Russia is essentially playing Russian Roulette with itself
finland will disappear on earth , a country with 1 million people
Can you check coz I heard and read news that Turkey has made formal announcement to reject Sweden and Finland application to Nato. Which I think is wise to avoid all out worsened wars and WW3
It was not a formal announcement - it was pres. Erdogan's private musings of the day.
Best point here 5:10-5:53