Exclusive first THE A500 MINI Prototype Playtest! Full preview review
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- In this exclusive preview let’s boot up (& tear down) TheA500 Mini retro console grey prototype, see what it can do, if it's good or bad, & how this tiny incarnation of the Commodore Amiga 500 works! Not quite a review. And check out PCBWay.com - great PCBs from just $5! More...
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0:00 Intro & context
1:06 Unboxing recap
3:36 Teardown
6:16 Setup
10:08 Power on & Options
18:39 Playtest: Battle Chess
22:36 Playtest: Worms
26:50 Playtest: Speedball 2
31:02 Display options/Workbench
32:15 USB Thumbdrives
33:00 Conclusion & Supporter credits
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I'm missing the videos of you restoring or putting in operation of retro devices. I know you got your collection of childhood dreams complete, so you probably have no reason to do these things anymore, but it was interesting content. Maybe you could find other reason for doing this again? xD
@@elmariachi5133 Buy a A500 Mini and you don't have to spend a whole fortune refurbishing an old Amiga!
@@elmariachi5133 For sure! I'm planning one on the Amiga 1200, the problem is waiting for parts at the moment... Hope you saw the recent-ish C128 restoration :-)
@@bigd5090 That too! ;-)
What's with the case color?
I really hope whey make a A500 Maxi as well. I'll definitely buy that!
I feel most people will wait this out for a Maxi version ..
If Retro Games does make an A500 Maxi, then I hope that they put a real built in floppy disk drive on it that can read both double density disks (for Amiga 500 floppy disk games) and high density disks (for disks with Amiga games downloaded onto them). It would also be cool if the A500 Mini had USB floppy drive support sometime in the future.
I'd finally have something to play my Only Amiga game, Cybercon III!!!
@@cimmerian100 i disagree, the mini is aimed at the nostalgia previous Amiga owner / mini console collector which is a bigger market than the maxi market aimed at a more professional user who probably has an Amiga of sorts anyway. C64mini outsold C64maxi easily.
Me too.
Perrifractic should audition for Audible. I find his voice to be very soothing. He could be talking about the current situation in the Ukraine, and I'd be like "Ah, it can't be THAT bad..." 😄
yeah @Perrifractic... how bout it?
Thanks! I really appreciate that. I do a bit of voice work. christiansimpson.com Audio book recording can be very lengthy and laborious which is why I haven’t followed that path; I’d never have time to make videos 😉
@@RetroRecipes well, we can't have that! 😲
Dear Audible, we regretfully inform you that the voice of Perrifractic is no longer available for auditions. So sorry, but you should have snapped him up while you had the chance.
Signed,
The RR fanclub. ❤️
Colleges in Australia that had TV production courses where still using DPAINT on Amiga in the 2010s
0:37 That is a Daniel Stern tarantula-on-the-face worthy scream! Not even a minute in and already epic. ❤️
Good ear! That’s exactly where it’s from!
Just a week ago, i got the message my childhood A1200 got lost….so this A500mini is so cool!! An A1200 maxi version would be my ultimate Dream Machine!!!!
After my parents bought a Vic20 instead of a C64 for Christmas I bought all my other computers myself. I remember opening the original Amiga to play it.
That shriek when the doorbell rang really cracks me up! These mini systems have such good menu music. I love what they have on the C64Mini and TheC64 Maxi, and I love the music they have on this Amiga Mini too.
Yeah very different but equally good 👍🕹️
I loved my Amiga 500. Spent lots of time playing Lemmings and Lucas Arts adventure games the most. I now need to look up more of the games I had back then and see what I can find
Loving that music they have on the mini i could listen to that all day. So need this in my life right now but i will have to wait a wee bit for now. Great stuff as always guys and can't not wait for your next video. Until then take care.
Much as I love these Commodore computers being 're-imagined' in these forms - and I do have nostalgic feelings toward them, I'd love to see Retro Games look at the equivalent Atari models; the 800/800XL, or the XE series, and then the ST computers.... these were amazing machines back then, and don't get anywhere near the attention that they deserve: Each computer could do certain things that the other couldn't...but software devs always found clever ways around the differences to get games as equal as possible; Either that, or they'd just go off any create a totally different version of the same game title...!! 😁
Really looking forward to this A500 though... 😉
Would be great to have some 8-Bit Atari models!
It would depend on if Atari would allow them to use there property.
I am from Poland and the Atari XL / XE computer in my country was a very popular piece of equipment. Yes, I currently have these pets in my collection.
Retro Games should release one Atari XL / XE / ST / STE / TT / FALCON emulator. Probably every self-respecting RETROFAN would buy for his collection. It's a business, and only dreaming, but there is no shortage of fans. May they have another success :) POZDRAWAM :)
@@RETRONuts : Obviously! 😝
However, getting the Atari name back out into the public with a modern mini/maxi replica wouldn't hurt Atari in the slightest, and would help them in the long run with 'brand awareness'.... Atari may not have been that big in the USA, but it was very big in Europe, and the UK....
@@marcinczartowski9962 : Quite right my friend.... 😃 It would be wonderful to see!
Take care, and stay safe 😉
Great video, the menu music sounded incredible. Loved the Amiga 500, its what I grew up playing. I miss those days, and now can't wait for the A500 mini. I just hope that adding extra games will be an easy thing to do
It’s amazing how nice a simple chord progression can sound isn’t it 🌱
I really admire how calm you seem to be as a person. I really admire this.
I'm Dimi ( known as GreekRetroGamer ) and huge fan of C64 and A500.
Great content, keep it up !!!
Nice preview ! well put together as always, always a pro for presentation keep up the good work :)
Thinking about getting this? Loved my A500 when it came out, some great, iconic games. Then a while later got the A1200. Ah, the memories........
Thanks Retro Recipes for this video! You are the best!
So cool. I love how you got so "moved" when it first came on and the music was playing. I was waiting for the "Maxi" version to come out to finally dive into the world of Amiga for the first time, but I couldn't wait any longer. My very first Amiga 500 arrives tomorrow, which was preceded in delivery by a video converter, SCART cable, brand new PSU, and Gotek. Just waiting for the main event to arrive! ;)
Thankyou for the teaser showing the A500 mini running, ordered two :) Hanging out for the Maxi of course. I'm going to see how it might work with paint programs such as Brilliance II and Dpaint ;)
Great share! Love that scene when all the memories came flooding back. Can't wait to buy.
I've never used a Amiga, but I really want this for my retro gaming space in the basement
hey, random question, did you do the video descriptive voice over for Guardians of the Galaxy dvd?
Close, I did Avengers: Endgame and Infinity War, but not Guardians. (Also The Last Kingdom, Grand Tour, Gucci, and others :-) )
That look on your face is exactly the same as the one i had when i found my old Grandstand Astro Wars in my mum's loft last week. And the thought in my head at the time was "Hello old friend, i've missed you". And yep, it still works somehow haha
I am excited to get mine which I pre-ordered... growing up I was so envious of the Amiga since my family had PC's and a Mac. Now I get to play with one... like a nice little game machine
Similar for me, i had a Atari ST so only ever got to play Amiga's at friends houses
Thanks for this! Excited to see the WHDload from external support.
Looking great! As someone who has a ton of my old games still around and who dabbled with the Armiga some time back, I'm not up to speed on Whdload. Is there a simple way to get either my original games or the ADF files into a Whdload format, and can I do it on a regular PC since I can't get any external files onto my A500 or A1200?
Looks great. Thx 4 sharing with us!
They indeed made a great job on the UI and the keyboard mapping on the gamepad. However I would love to have a "maxi" version with a real keyboard.
I sadly lost my old A500 (and its monitor) last time I moved, seeing this remember me that I miss it :]
I don't imagine it would be that difficult to take the mini out of the case and mash it into a full size case with a keyboard designed to look authentic. Expensive for the first person to do it, due to the cost of the keyboard (cases exist), but not "hard" in any technical sense. And once the tooling for the keyboard is paid off, it won't be that expensive for everyone else.
Even if a maxi never officially exists, someone is going to make it happen. You can pretty well bet on it.
@@mal2ksc They make little usb keyboards for the Raspberry pi ect there is no reason why they couldn't have given this a functional keyboard.
This is the next best thing to a real Amiga.
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@@edstar83 Cost. Would add another $30-40 onto the SRP. Plug in a USB keyboard if required.
Same. I'll wait for functional keyboard version
I still have my Amiga A1200 with the AGA chipset. My favorite games on it was alway Civilization, Dune and Wings. Too bad Amiga died because my dream was to get the Amiga 4000 with the video Toaster and Lightwave 3D.
Thanx for the shout out :3) I was the lead chip designer on the AGA chipset. The Video Toaster was pretty cool. NewTek (I think that was the company name) was kind enough to provide me with a Toaster to play with.
Thanks for sharing thie Perrifractic. I have pre-ordered my A-500 Minil.. I can't wait.
Have fun!
This looks fantastic. I wonder if our own USB games will be pre configured to work with the pad and if we be able to add box art etc to match the style of the included games?
It's not a question of games being pre-configured. My guess is that the internal emulator is just configured to pass USB gamepad inputs as joystick inputs, so any game that supports Amiga joysticks should work with this gamepad (or any other standard USB gamepad or joystick).
@@AmartharDrakestone It'd be nice if everything looked and worked in a uniform way though rather than just dumping a load of whdload games on a stick. I guess there would be config options for each game. How does it work on the other mini computers they have released?
@@matp8493 Don't know why you would want to configure anything, since most Amiga joysticks only supported 1 fire button, and only some supported 2 buttons. Their previous mini (the C64 mini/maxi) didn't need configurations, since C64 joystick games only supported one button. For games that didn't support a joystick they had the on-screen keyboard or you could connect your own USB keyboard (the mini version) or use the unit's keyboard (the maxi version).
I guess you could make them pass joystick inputs as keyboard inputs, but that would have to be done externally and on a game by game basis. That's assuming you can use custom emulator config files on there. But I don't think you can since the purpose of this machine is to be as plug-and-play as possible. That's why it's set up with WHDLoad games and not ADF disk images.
@@AmartharDrakestone Yep, long time Amiga owner here. Quite a few games need keyboard commands too, so obviously being able to configure the pad can be an important thing. I'd really like to know if everything is going to have a uniform look and feel once it's fully loaded with games before pre ordering this.
The Gamepad is fully customisable; map any keyboard ket to any button. May take a little work getting some games up and running, but it will save the set-up on the USB stick.
Being an American I never used an Amiga until well into adulthood. I can remember maybe 1 person that had one in the early 90s and he was into production of video and commercials and local news stuff. To American boys born in the early 80s the SNES and Genesis was our 16 bit era and the IBM PC (and compatibles) was 99.9% of the computers we all used. The last era that things were that different across the world.
I was a child in the 90s, and I never ran across anything outside of Sega, Nintendo, Apple, and windows computers. It’s amazing how the internet has opened up all these alternate histories that were previously locked behind the gate of geography
@@MrRudePolite And even then the owners of Apple stuff felt so microscopic. At least in my part of North America. Yes we used Apple IIs in elementary school and junior high but later on I knew maybe two or three personal owners of Macs. I remember a friend's family owned one of those pizza box Macs that got bought at Sears or wherever. Early model without CDROM but I remember playing SimCity and Lemmings on it.
I can’t wait for this, it looks brilliant. Great vid as usual!
I started gaming way back when with the Atari 2600 Jnr, before getting the Zx 48k+/Atari 520 stfm/Amiga 500 then 1200. A great time in gaming.
Thanks for this preview, I’m hyped now! The Amiga was my golden gaming & creative machine. About this mini: I hope it will be possible to get an additional gamepad ; SpeedBall 2 is brilliant in 1P, but even more in 2P. And that’s the case for a lot of the best Amiga games. I hope RTG won’t miss this opportunity to bring back what’s lacking IMO in most of the modern games : 2 players having fun on the same screen, and not individualy on their own screen.
"Ice Cream. Ice Cream."
So glad I didn't have headphones on whilst the first minute played then :P
Oh man, you sitting there in awe of the music... it takes me right back to my childhood. The amount of days spent just booting up the machine & sitting there on the title music ...ahh, you are a true O.G. gamer. :)
You do your hair just like the main character in Speedball 2. It’s surprising the stuff that we see as kids that translates into the back of our mind as something we will also do in real life.
This type of machine is what I wanted for years now. A dedicated non Windows/MacOS/Linux system which I run and then load an emulator. I wanted to boot into the retro system. Admittedly I was hoping first for the Atari ST line, but as also a former owner of Amiga, I am fine with this one too. I do hope though that after good sales of this system we will eventually get a similar Atari ST mini too.
I had a few questions, you answered most of them through the video, but I do have a few more remaining. If you don't mind.
Does/Will the system support any USB mouse too other than joystick? For joystick I plan on connecting arcade/fight sticks, and for mouse I rather use my own modern mouse to which I am now well used to. You mentioned it should support any USB joystick and the promotional material mentions any USB keyboard, but nothing about mouse.
Hmm, I wonder though how one would access the menu etc buttons of the gamepad on a third party device. Perhaps combination with keyboard press on a USB keyboard.
How are hard drives emulated with this? Also can you actually save from within the game and not just the save state? I know the prototype you have there doesn't support usb sticks. I wonder how the final product will deal with this. I mean, ok I can load my own games on the stick, but what if I want to "install" them on a "hard drive"? Or say save/load games or whatever else from the virtual floppies and hard drive, than the save states of the emulator.
Also can you use the save states for the games from a stick or only those already built in?
Games that support both the A500 and A1200, can you pick which "version" to run?
Mind you these are open questions, or thinking out loud if you prefer. :)
Not knowing how great the final product will be (already pre-ordered it but has been pushed by Amazon back to mid April), I am hoping they will release a USB Quickshot II joystick too. Also the already mentioned ST mini.
ANYWAY, thanks for the video man!
Very good video. Thank you.
Will there be a Maxi-Variant just like The C64?
the Am iga (are all programs for this machine (Amiga) programed typed in on a pc????
I have one on order from Amazon UK. I can't wait for it to arrive.
Great video, as always. This looks like a decent product although, like others have commented, a Maxi version would be better. I really liked the save states being on floppy disks!
Looks fantastic! I've been wanting to play Super Frog again for years! The pricing looks pretty good too in my opinion!
Great review Chris. It was pleasing to see you still have my Pi Amiga and C64 cases in the studio
Thanks! Sure do. Yours wins out over The A500 for tinyness though!
Is there a mini A520 modulator?
Great video and love the dogs are involved. I haven't pre-ordered it yet. The video answers a lot of questions I had. I would have liked to have seen more usb ports possibly for whdload multiplayer games but the fact you have a virtual keyboard helps. Would still like to see what emulation they are using but the games look to run great on the prototype.
The dog had me dying! 🤣
Beautiful music, it’s so relaxing.
I regret giving away / selling all my old computers and consoles as well. I do have a Mini SNES these days, and I have been a bit naughty and hacked it to put more games and emulators on it, one of them being the Megadrive versions of Speedball 2 and Worms. Loved the presentation of the video and seeing your gorgeous doggies brought a smile to my face. Subscribed!
Does it work with the Retronic Design DB9 to USB adapter so you can use the original Amiga joysticks or the CD32 controller? I know for a fact that it works with the C64 Mini.
Yes I’ll be double checking in video out March 21st
Got mine on pre order, does that mean on loaded games we wouldn't get titles (like Cannon Fodder)?
I got the c64 Maxi it's amazing hope they come with the Amiga maxi - great video like always
I am curious as to how well it runs Alien Breed 3D. Does it run like an unexpanded A1200? Or an accelerated machine?
Yes im interested in the same thing, wil it run new homebrew 1200 games on the horizon. Personally i think the Chip set inside this device will struggle, hopefully I'm proven wrong.
I had the A600 with an extra memory card. Loved Cannon Fodder.... RIP Jools & Jops!
Cant wait to have mine arrive. Looking forward to loading my own stuff, also wondering how much you can change etc, like remove games you dont want etc.
Great review and video as always. One of best retrobit you tube sites going👍. Very true words that the new Amiga mini is great in that it can be used on modern tv's and easy and simple to use.I will get one in April, Great review👍.
I have a Cannon Fodder boxed somewhere which may even have the game in it, absolutely great game. Also loved Delta Armalyte and ofcourse Bubble Bobble. We had the Vic 20, C 64 and Amiga. I will have to check with the old folks...
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New to your channel and instant subscribe. Great video, thank you.
I have a GPD pocket 2 running all my Amiga , c64 , ZX spectrum etc just fantastic, but I still want one of these
Definitively glad to see that my Speedball 2 skills are not the only ones to have disappear over the years LOL. Great Video. I'll definitely consider order a mini Amiga.
I watched the live stream of this video and enjoyed every second of it. Fantastic video, loved it!
Thanks for joining us!
@@RetroRecipes It was a pleasure! Truly!
That dog is like my cat Caele. She sits and admires me like that too like all the time. It's only for the treats though lol love your videos!!
Great preview.
Do you know if the gamepad is compatible with the C64 Maxi?
Thanks
Thanks! It is.
@@RetroRecipes Nice - is it "up" for jump, or can one of the 4 buttons be configured as a jump button do you know?
@@DjClarky78 It would only be configurable if the individual game allows configuration which is rare. It’s not configurable within the machine AFAIK.
@@RetroRecipes Understood. Thanks for the reply. 👍
Great video! Thanx so much!
Han elegido una bonita y relajante música, parece prometedor ese mini Amiga. Y esos divertidos perros se merecen un fuerte aplauso por su paciencia y simpatía.
Is it possible to fix the screen ratio to 4:3?
I am looking forward to getting mine and another month or two. I suspect it'll be the same as my C64 Mini and Maxi. I will use it for a little bit, put it on the shelf, and go back to my real equipment! Nothing wrong with that though. Thanks for the preview.
exactly. I suspect that is what most of us will do. Just like my c64 min and maxi :)
15:10 didn't the Amiga have two fire buttons? I had the StarCursor MCA Joystick and remember the red and yellow buttons doing different things.
What is the screwdriver that you used in this video?
Link in description
Pre ordered already I hope it’s good before I watch the video great work as always
Great Video. I love speedball 2, both on C64 and Amiga :)
Great vid!
We love you smooth silk voice😂, great video👍.
Thanks 😅
I have a question - do you think Deluxe Paint II or III would work on this? That you'd have the ability to create some pixel art again and save on an external USB maybe?
Yeah I’m sure!
The intro + the shout = subscribed
I ordered one of these for my son BUT cannot find out anywhere what voltage AC power Adaptor to get for it
Any USB phone charger
Hoping it’ll be good. Probably the best christmas present ever. A500, Christmas 1986/7 (launch year, can’t remember). My dad also bought me a philips 8833 to avoid hogging the TV. £499 + VAT - I still have the receipt as a memento.
I NEED this in my life!!!
Your Polish is pretty ok, I'm surprised! I really, really want one of these. The only mini I have acquired so far is the NES... but we're kind of in a "get out of Dodge" frame of mind right right now, so for the time being frivolous purchases will have to wait.
Could the lack of an intro screen be caused by an internal save state to speed up loading? 🤔
Loving the use of Marv’s scream!
Good ear!
This makes me so happy. I miss my Amiga :(. And I remember when you guys did the Battle Chess vs other chess programs from other systems episode :). My work issued my a Macbook Pro during that time and I recreated the same thing, just with WinUAE / Macbook. Also found a Eurogamer article that said this is being released March 25th.
Know what would be better than a preview/review? Watching a guy play computer chess!
Will there an a500 maxi and does it support tcpip?
Probably. No.
Poland does seem to be a big hotbed of retro computing long after other scenes have cooled, so I'm not surprised to see their language supported straight out of the box.
No i bardzo dobrze!
I knew that reaction was coming, and I still laughed out loud when it happened!!
There’s probably a shelf life to SpeedBall skills. I too played it as a later teen early twenties, a lot! On the PC and ST and I was pretty decent. Now the computer wipes the floor with me.
Love it.
The music makes you feel like your listening to Turrican music for the first time.... wow... :)
Very cool that the very first screen has Queen Lady Fractic.
I would always put a Gotek in an external drive and use X Copy to put images onto real disks written using the internal drive you want to load them from. You can also then use the Gotek in an external drive casing and use it with the CDTV.
Can't wait to get mine. Got a mail from Amazon the delivery is delayed. New date: April 12th.
Just to note, the animation sequences were not part of Worms Director's Cut on the Amiga, or any floppy disc-based Worms game, at least on the Amiga, They were extras for the CD-32 version and other CD-based ports of the game.
Thanks yes have since realized this 👍🕹️
Fabulous. Which chipsets will be emulated with this device? AGA included? RTG?
Fascinating product. Looking forward to seeing the final version. Will there be a maxi?
Whatever the case a great playthrough of the prototype.
I would like a Maxi, or maybe a Mediumi? Not sure I'd want an emulator box the size of an a500. Maybe a 600?
Or another little one but with working keys.
You can’t beat Worms on Amiga, easily my favourite version of the game 👍🏻
Oh wow, another device that keeps me sitting calmly in the main menu for hours 😍
Hmmmm i am waiting for the Amiga 500 Max But the Menu and Games are cool 😎 thanks for this Video 🥰
One thing im wondering is what if you have seperate rom files and you have a multi disk game will it still play or will it ask to swap disks cause not sure how thatll work if it does ask you to put another disk in
The WHDLoad package takes care of that so you just need to find the game in WHDLoad format
@@RetroRecipes ive got quite a few roms looks like ill be searching for quite a few WHDLoad versions
@@RetroRecipes So to add to this does this mean that ADF file games will be useless especially if its a multi disk game?
@@Calculon1712 ADF support will follow in an update
@@RetroRecipes thanks for that, so for now it looks like its just WHDLoad format thats fine
@23:52 - Commodore 64GS flashbacks