The Turbo Era: Formula 1 on Steroids

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
  • Since 2014, Formula 1 cars have been running on turbo power. These hybrid engines use a sophisticated combination of mechanical and electrical power to give record-breaking pace to contemporary cars, despite their size and weight, and to develop up to 1,000 horsepower, almost 300 more than the naturally aspirated ones that preceded them. As mind bending as those figures are however, they pale in comparison to those of the past. Some 30 years earlier, turbo engines were all the rage. It was a time of excess in motorsport that ran in tandem with Group B in rally cars and Group C in sports cars. Following the banning of ground effect and the massive simplification of aerodynamics that followed, engine power was the key to success in Formula 1, with none of the modern considerations surrounding sustainability, as engines regularly blew themselves up after only a handful of laps. Time to look at the turbo era.
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    Timestamps
    0:00 Introduction
    1:04 Early years
    4:37 1977
    6:04 1978
    6:51 1979
    8:50 1980
    10:28 1981
    12:31 1982
    16:02 1983
    19:25 1984
    23:38 1985
    27:20 1986
    31:02 1987
    33:30 1988
    36:14 Epilogue
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Komentáře • 512

  • @PeterBrookF1
    @PeterBrookF1  Před rokem +419

    RIP Jean-Pierre Jabouille...

    • @simonbellamy67
      @simonbellamy67 Před rokem +14

      Thanks Peter Brook, I really enjoyed that, I love Formula 1 doc's expecially the history. Very interesting. I also got a few screen grabs for wallpapering my devices. Hope that cool with you? .....

    • @PeterBrookF1
      @PeterBrookF1  Před rokem +14

      @@simonbellamy67 The photos aren't mine so yeah go ahead!

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 Před rokem +16

      @@PeterBrookF1 BTW, I know this isn't the best topic to say this in, but I wanted to tell you directly that you have amazing content and are definitely going to experience exponential growth at some point here! Found your channel through this video and watched a decent amount of the back catalog (got plenty more to watch too) and I am amazed that the algorithm hasn't really bestowed its blessing on you yet. Keep doing what you are doing, don't get discouraged, and I - a random youtube watcher - guarantee that you are on track to blow up! Cheers.

    • @guillaume1141
      @guillaume1141 Před rokem +3

      I know how hard it's to say Jabouille decently for a non french native. And you did a great job in the video. That’s a great tribute to him to say his name that well 😄

    • @tibettenballs4962
      @tibettenballs4962 Před 4 měsíci

      You deserve mouth 😮😮

  • @Murr1sson
    @Murr1sson Před rokem +1600

    The fact that these things used basically rocket fuel and were ticking time bombs just shows that the 80's were a time of eccess and finesse.

    • @lostalone9320
      @lostalone9320 Před rokem +91

      Can I interest you in some highly toxic Beryllium alloy pistons to go with that? After all, the engines don't explode and scatter components across the track all that often!

    • @GenTVR
      @GenTVR Před rokem +23

      *excess
      But yes you’re right, what a time!

    • @stanmil5495
      @stanmil5495 Před rokem

      And cocaine

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Před rokem +7

      @@lostalone9320 2023, 1988 still is the BEST F1 season ever.

    • @EmilForsberg_GRYBO
      @EmilForsberg_GRYBO Před rokem +6

      @@damarfadlan9251 1988 really? Not like, 1976, 2003 or 2012?

  • @brendan7632
    @brendan7632 Před rokem +647

    This era is so special. The mid to late 80s were NUTS in the F1 world. Go back and watch some highlights on F1 TV if you can. I recommend the 1987 French Grand Prix. There is a stationary camera set up on the backstretch, and it's the best angle I've seen that displays the immense straight line speed these cars had. Its truly unbelievable

    • @stavroshadjiyiannis6283
      @stavroshadjiyiannis6283 Před rokem +16

      Straight to the 1987 French Grand Prix highlights!

    • @brendan7632
      @brendan7632 Před rokem +28

      @@stavroshadjiyiannis6283 got 50 minutes of highlights from that race. Crazy to see the attrition rate as well that season. Those turbos were blowing up left and right back then LOL

    • @joemarchinski914
      @joemarchinski914 Před rokem +29

      the 80s were a great era for all forms of racing...f1, indy, nascar, wrc, baja trucks and anything with a steering wheel and a gas pedal....miss them days

    • @KalvickQT
      @KalvickQT Před rokem +4

      Thanks for the tip haha. next video

    • @kenbarlow5373
      @kenbarlow5373 Před rokem +3

      70s to the 90s... some of the most bonkers and developmental times in F1!

  • @casperkankarjarvi
    @casperkankarjarvi Před rokem +452

    It's insane compared to todays rules that teams used to just turn up the engines to 11 for qualifying and then just throw the engine away afterwards

    • @dumkopf
      @dumkopf Před rokem +8

      Insanely awesome.

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Před rokem +86

      Not just the engine: they also used special qualifying gearboxes that just barely lasted a couple of laps.
      And when you look at the numbers that isn't really that surprising: where during the race those engines delivered somewhere between 900-1000HP in the last days of that era, in qualifying they could be whipped up to 1500HP, literally tearing the engine and gearbox apart.

    • @emilianopapagna9616
      @emilianopapagna9616 Před rokem +20

      @@tjroelsma I can only wonder what times one of those engines with today's aerodynamics would set

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Před rokem +45

      @@emilianopapagna9616 Hard to say: yes, they were insanely powerful, but they had the dreaded turbo-characteristic of those days: a whole lot of nothing and then all of a sudden armageddon. In the hands of a competent driver it should do reasonably well, especially in a modern chassis with way more grip and like you said better aerodynamics.

    • @coreygolpheneee
      @coreygolpheneee Před rokem +2

      @@emilianopapagna9616 yeah but imagine today's cars with these monster truck tires

  • @Chrisuperfly1
    @Chrisuperfly1 Před rokem +191

    I think Walter Rohrl said it best, "In 1971 I did the Monte Carlo rally with 150 horse brakes, and in 1986 with 550 horse brakes, and with the same tree, in the same place, with the same rock and the same ditch."

    • @mikewest712
      @mikewest712 Před rokem +27

      Was Walter too cautious in his career? He was one of the only drivers that didn't race certain events due to the level of risk. I find him to be highly calculated and he understood risk/reward ratio better than any driver.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn Před rokem +22

      One if not the best driver ever Walter Rohrl the guy who want to win the races, but didnt want to win championships, because then people will gather in front of his house and he want a peaceful living.

    • @Da_one_tl
      @Da_one_tl Před rokem +17

      @@mikewest712 Niki Lauda was the best at risk calculation.
      Remember his famous “twenty percent risk” catchphrase

    • @mikewest712
      @mikewest712 Před rokem +3

      @@Da_one_tl exactly, Niki laid the fabric for calculations in driving.

    • @sebastianahrens2385
      @sebastianahrens2385 Před rokem +13

      @@mikewest712 I don't think he was too cautious, considering how fast he was. And then there's his famous line about "not planning to have an accident" when his family warned him about the apparent fragility of the Lancia 037. I think he had a very clear idea of when he was in control, and when he wasn't. And if the latter were the case, he wouldn't drive.

  • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158

    Turbo era in nutshell:
    Alain Prost in his Renault takes the lead!
    *literally 10 seconds later*
    And Prost is retiring from the race after another engine malfunction!

    • @jkim6200
      @jkim6200 Před rokem +11

      Pretty indicative... more so during his years at Renault than his 2nd stint at McLaren.

    • @funkymarco4411
      @funkymarco4411 Před rokem +3

      Renault will always stay the same

    • @stinkyroadhog1347
      @stinkyroadhog1347 Před rokem +10

      "And Arnoux assumes the lead.... Wait! I beg your pardon. Arnoux is in a cloud of steam and smoke and has stopped by the side of the track!"

  • @johnjones928
    @johnjones928 Před rokem +180

    The Ferrari's main problem was as the teams started using toluene based fuels the rise in power became too much for their aluminum engine blocks. The engine started developing core shift as hp numbers crossed 800, the misaligned bearing surfaces over heated and broke down the oil leading to failure, their only choice was to run at power levels lower than the competition. They had a cast iron block under development but chose to back the turbo ban instead.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 Před rokem +11

      Honda's engine had an iron block from the start.
      BMW's engine was a production iron block, and the castings were stored outside so they would stress-relieve before being machined.

    • @johnjones928
      @johnjones928 Před rokem +13

      @@andyharman3022 The Ferrari was just a bad design, Ford's Tec-6 also had a 120 degree aluminum block, but it easily handled over 1000 BHP .

    • @viralbest
      @viralbest Před rokem +1

      Cool man you watched a doc that a lot of us have watched

    • @johnjones928
      @johnjones928 Před rokem +13

      @@viralbest Nope, read it in Road&Track race reports back in the 80's.

    • @michaelgideon8944
      @michaelgideon8944 Před rokem +9

      @@johnjones928
      There is a great vid on YT that details the development of the Cosworth turbo V6. It features a young Ross Brawn.

  • @gregderise9969
    @gregderise9969 Před rokem +97

    I started watching F1 with the June 1986 Detroit GP. The description of the cats so blew me away I was an instant Formula One fan, to the point that not only did I get up early on Sunday mornings in the Central Time zone U.S., but I taped every race after that on my Sony Betamax so I could rewatch during the week, twice before the next race sometimes. I remember an interior with Eddie Cheever, who was driving the Arrows BMW them, that he got wheelspin in 5th gear (when they only had 5 gears with clutch pedals and gearshift knobs on a lever sticking up from the floor). Those cars took balls to drive on the limit because they lacked the safety of today’s F1 cars. Especially the car Nigel Mansell won the championship with, the 1992 Williams with active suspension. He talked about it in an interview a couple of years ago. Prost drive that car for a season but didn’t like it because the only way to be really fast in it was to trust the system and drive it to the edge of car control without the ability to feel how close to the edge. Mansell had guts most drivers never know. He was one of the very few really courageous really exciting drivers in the history of the sport. That’s why he was “the Lion.” Always a thrill. He fought some famous battles. Probably the ones with Senna are best remembered. A fantastic era with multiple world champions who battled like horsemen with spears. Not many years have that yelling at the television set kind of excitement. We’ve had some in the 21st century of course. But there’s been nothing like that era of cars that had so much power for the weight and chassis sophistication they could barely go straight just like top fuel dragsters. Cats on the ragged edge with drivers whose personalities were unapologetic and pushed their fragile machines to and beyond their limits. This is one of my favorite videos in a long time. Well researched and a real gem about the history of the sport. I always like it best when F1 is the nuttiest. I hope the 2026 engine rules are good for excitement. Nothing is worse for the sport than blandness. Where it’s headed eventually may not be so much fun. Check back about the time NASA puts a crew down on Mars. Like Nikki Lauda, I’m in favor of F1 cars being so powerful they scare the bejesus out of someone who first moves up to F1. It should be that much of a test of the best

    • @chrisallison4175
      @chrisallison4175 Před rokem +1

      Mansell was an awesome driver and a true gentleman. We were lucky to see him when he came to the US to race in CART in 1993 - 1994. He won the CART championship in his 'rookie' year - he also held the F1 championship title at the same time.

    • @KUROSHURA
      @KUROSHURA Před rokem

      To hell with NASA, I can watch Futuristic “Spaceships” right here on the ground. The Design of the Cars, the Engineering, the Wings, the Helmets all remind me of some kind of Spaceship out of a Sci Fi film. But I don’t have to imagine….I can just tune in to a Race.
      Great Commentary Sir.

    • @theant9821
      @theant9821 Před rokem +1

      Senna and Nakajima described the Lotus active car as vauge, you just have to trust it to do its thing.

    • @thegreathadoken6808
      @thegreathadoken6808 Před rokem +2

      Did you ever play F-Zero on Nintendo consoles? Maybe with ground effect and whatnot, that's where they're headed...

    • @blackflagqwerty
      @blackflagqwerty Před rokem

      It's just not as good nowadays. Kids getting paid a fortune complaining on the radio about sweet FA.

  • @thehazbinpilot
    @thehazbinpilot Před rokem +182

    Ah yes, the time when F1 engines barely lasted longer than top fuel dragsters

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny Před rokem +2

      Maybe about 30 times longer.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy Před rokem +10

      @@V8Lenny F1 races are only 2 minutes long?

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny Před rokem +9

      @@PistonAvatarGuy one fast lap at full power and they exploded. Race power was almost half.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy Před rokem +4

      @@V8Lenny But the comment was: "Ah yes, the time when F1 engines barely lasted longer than top fuel dragsters"
      At race power, they lasted much, MUCH longer than Top Fuel dragsters. Even 30 times longer at full power is an enormous difference.

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny Před rokem +1

      @@PistonAvatarGuy yes and Top Fuel engines made maybe 4000 hp those days.

  • @SaraSpruce
    @SaraSpruce Před rokem +58

    Fun fact: the Renault RS01 may have been the first turbocharged Formula 1 car, but it wasn't actually the first turbocharged car in the World Championship. The 1952 Indy 500 (which then was part of the world championship) had a Cummins turbodiesel-powered car on pole, which then led most of the race but retired 9 laps from the finish with a steering linkage failure.

    • @mrspandel5737
      @mrspandel5737 Před rokem +18

      I think you mixed up a few details there. The Cummins powered car, driven by Fred Agabashian, initially ran well but retired before the halfway point from Turbocharger failure due to the intake becoming clogged.
      It was Bill Vukovich who retired from steering failure late in the race after leading a large chunk of the event.

    • @SaraSpruce
      @SaraSpruce Před rokem +1

      @@mrspandel5737 You are right, I don't know how I got the two mixed up.

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 Před rokem

      For all intentions and purposes, a turbocharger doesn't add power to a diesel engine. They're all 2 stroke to they need pressure to remove the exhaust gasses from the chamber before the next combustion, else the engine doesn't work. Some use a supercharger for scavenging and a turbo for extra hp.
      Unless the turbo was much bigger than necessary (that could explain the failure), I will have to check that out.

    • @mrspandel5737
      @mrspandel5737 Před rokem +2

      @@afoxwithahat7846 you're talking about a two-stroke diesel aka the Detroit Diesel style which has no intake valves. These are mostly extinct outside of ships and locomotives. Four stroke Diesel engines (like virtually all Cummins engines) draw their fresh air the exact same way a four stroke gas engine does through the vacuum created by the piston moving down during the intake stroke.
      The engine used by the Cummins Special was a four-cycle unit similar to commercial engines available at the time, a 400ci Inline 6, but built with an Aluminium block for weight savings. Since a naturally aspirated Diesel has very low specific power density compared to gasoline engines they experimented with a Turbocharger that raised the output to 380-430hp depending on the source.

    • @boduke9428
      @boduke9428 Před rokem +2

      @@afoxwithahat7846 you couldn't be more wrong. There were 2 stroke diesels but not currently. The turbo is used exactly the same as a gasoline engine. They actually have a much greater benefit. They are so robustly built that they can withstand much higher boost pressure. In the late 90's and 2000's it was normal for light duty diesels in pickup trucks to have 40 plus pounds of boost stock.

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 Před rokem +22

    One thing that has not changed ... 6 bar (90lbs) of boost can still cause reliability issues.

    • @charliemaybe
      @charliemaybe Před rokem

      yeah 6 bar of boost tends to blow motors. Unless if you have a deisel and in that case 10-12 bar to blow up.

  • @chrisccc22
    @chrisccc22 Před rokem +15

    I'm 55 and have been to over 80 GP in my life. The first one I went to was the Detroit Grand Prix in 1982. The very first car I ever saw live was Michele Alboreto in the Tyrrell 011. What a noise it made. I was hooked instantly.
    That year half the field ran normally asperated engines and the other half turbos. The next 2 years my dad took me to Canada and the field was all turbos in 84, pretty much. I asked my dad, what happened to the noise. He said "Turbo's Chris". We never went to another GP until 1989.
    In Canada in 1995. We had front row seats, 3rd on the grid. Jean Alesi was right in front of us. It was his birthday. I started a chant of singing "Happy Birthday" and the entire section chimed in. Jean threw his gloves over the fence to me.
    The Ferrari 412 T2 Made such a noise, that you could feel it coming up the strait (Via Your Asshole) after exiting the "Wall of Champions". Not an exaggeration.
    We went to a ton of F1 races during the 90's and 2000's. As soon as the turbos came back. We stopped going again. The turbos may be quicker, but they are less awesome to watch live.

    • @illusionnl9237
      @illusionnl9237 Před rokem

      exactly....F1 died in 2014

    • @chrisccc22
      @chrisccc22 Před rokem +3

      @@illusionnl9237 Most certainly did my friend. Most certainly did.
      I went to the Malaysian Grand Prix. I was hoping the new turbos would be noisier than the old turbos. They literally sounded like vacuum cleaners.
      That was it for me. It's not even that fun to watch on TV anymore. I would never miss waking up, all hours of the day to watch it on TV. I don't even do that.
      What crack's me up is the new breed of fan. The one who watches DTS and thinks they know F1.

    • @illusionnl9237
      @illusionnl9237 Před rokem

      @@chrisccc22 right? hahah i feel u bro.....thats how see it aswell ..like a dyson on steroids.!!.i still watch tho but yeah it sucks so hard its not even funny anymore..
      wouldnt suprise me if they switch to V4 turbo's in future ....lol

    • @s0ciopath_
      @s0ciopath_ Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@illusionnl9237the porsche 919 evo has a v4 soooo maybe f1 goes to v4 but hopefully not

    • @illusionnl9237
      @illusionnl9237 Před 6 měsíci

      if it goes that far, ill quit watching... @@s0ciopath_

  • @mdh2655
    @mdh2655 Před rokem +18

    You don’t realize how great a decade like the 80’s was until you have time to reflect like in this video. Great music, great F1 cars. Great road cars too.

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 5 měsíci

      I am 42yo. Born 81. I have to. admit, i was exited for the future as a kid.
      I didnt realised we were at peak human development and it would all go downhill from 2000 and up.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 Před 5 měsíci

      Agreed. I started watching F1 in 1984 and I watched virtually every race live on television until the end of the 1996 season. I didn't know it at the time that I was watching the best era of F1, especially in the 1980's and very early 1990's.

  • @gdogg3710
    @gdogg3710 Před rokem +19

    Getting 1500bhp out of 1.5L straight four, toluene or not is an absolutely ludicrous amount of grunt from something that small. All with a factory cast iron block as well…

    • @gdogg3710
      @gdogg3710 Před rokem +1

      I’ve never heard the BHP figure for the BMW M12 before sans turbos - but 150bhp vs 1500bhp is just nuts…

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 Před rokem +1

      Everyone was trying to use cast Iron blocks for the turbos since aluminium wouldn't handle it. They chose specific blocks that had lasted many miles, since those had better build quality, treat them for extra durability and use them for a single session

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Před rokem +1

      @@afoxwithahat7846 legend has it that they would piss on the blocks as well for a few months. It's an old Roman tradition where they would piss on their swords. the urine chemically reacts and makes a harder outer layer of steel.

    • @dominicbritt
      @dominicbritt Před měsícem

      It was pointless and undeliverable though - and lasted about half an hour.
      The Honda Turbos produced similar power, had excellent driveability and were reliable.

  • @urugamersOficial
    @urugamersOficial Před rokem +27

    The fact that one of the designers of the car drove the first Renault in 77 it's like a dream came true 😅

  • @jasonstevenson110
    @jasonstevenson110 Před rokem +21

    6 Bar of boost is 87psi ?? Incredible!! Yes, that period of motorsports was nuts. Even in Nascar the fastest speeds were in that period before safety become paramount. I remember watching qualifying in the turbo era and the cars emitted black smoke from the obviously rich air fuel ratios with boost wound up to levels which could destroy the engine in little over 2 laps.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před 6 měsíci +4

      Engines: “I’m only 1.5 liters, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!?”
      Teams: 1000+ HP, mate.

  • @Obi-WanKannabis
    @Obi-WanKannabis Před rokem +50

    My favourite F1 era, you had the speed, the power, the technology, the drama, the competition, the strategy, the manual gear box combined with modern downforce. The only drawback is that these don't sound as good as the naturally aspirated V12s and V10s of the 90s and 2000s. These cars embody everything that Formula 1 Stands for to me. The fact that manufacturers didn't want Turbo engines because they are scared of being seen as unreliable just shows to me they don't understand the fans.

    • @lunascomments3024
      @lunascomments3024 Před rokem

      the strategy to become the beyond.

    • @piedpiper1172
      @piedpiper1172 Před rokem +3

      It’s sorta the thing, right? A turbo that adds 50-100ish HP will last until the end of time.
      One that adds 600 will last exactly long enough to get addicted to having it.
      Ofc, that’s kinda why they don’t put turbos that big on production cars. But low information buys don’t even understand the most rudimentary things about a turbo, much less the difference between small and large.

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql Před rokem +56

    Awesome video on what is arguably the absolute best era of Formula 1 ever.

    • @chrispraz877
      @chrispraz877 Před rokem

      Yea! Great job compiling all this old footage, and information. 🏁

  • @tommcglone2867
    @tommcglone2867 Před rokem +21

    These cars were absolute monsters. That BMW engine that powered the Benettons in 1986 got nicknamed the grenade for a reason. 1450hp in quali trim!?! Thats just swivel eyed madness

    • @coreygolpheneee
      @coreygolpheneee Před rokem +1

      And you could buy that block in a 4 cylinder 320

  • @seventh-hydra
    @seventh-hydra Před 11 měsíci +19

    The DFV winning 7 consecutive championships from 68-74 is pretty impressive. But I think what's even more impressive is the fact it won _12 out of 16_ WDC titles between 68-83, when it was still in use.
    Aside from the utter dominance, the fact it was still getting championships 15 years after being introduced is stunning

    • @xSoccerxCorex
      @xSoccerxCorex Před 7 měsíci

      the engine of the gods

    • @user-fh2ir6lq1n
      @user-fh2ir6lq1n Před 7 měsíci

      What happens when your team cares about the car. Not about how much money they lie about needing so they can line their pockets. You could build a championship winning f1 car for 500k. But teams spend upwards of a 100 million

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 Před rokem +5

    I am JUST old enough to remember this era in racing, and it was glorious. Though, the scream of the later high powered 1990's NA machines.....I still get goosebumps.....

  • @jimbrown5091
    @jimbrown5091 Před rokem +12

    This era made me a fan. Prost vs Senna was my favorite Sunday morning entertainment in 1988 and the MP4/4 was the stuff of legends.

  • @AllenKey19
    @AllenKey19 Před rokem +17

    It's insane to learn that Renault's Achilles Heel was reliability even back in the 80s... Alpine (Nando) would have done a monstrous job in 2022 if if not for their reliability

  • @justrelax8465
    @justrelax8465 Před rokem +29

    Don't forget the radioactive engine parts that some were using during all of this. It truly was the wild West

    • @sebastianhasbun3846
      @sebastianhasbun3846 Před rokem +11

      Or pissing on heavily used engine blocks to make them even stronger 😂

    • @devandrasimanjuntak1646
      @devandrasimanjuntak1646 Před rokem +3

      @@sebastianhasbun3846 I think that was exclusive for the BMW engines 😂

    • @stinkyroadhog1347
      @stinkyroadhog1347 Před rokem +2

      I think that was Mercedes in the late 90s and early 2000s with their beryllium engines

    • @justrelax8465
      @justrelax8465 Před rokem

      @@stinkyroadhog1347 correct

    • @david-468
      @david-468 Před 3 měsíci

      You should see what you’re eating in your food if that minor thing scares you and you think that’s the real reason

  • @richard21109
    @richard21109 Před rokem +9

    Of all the fatalities in Formula one,only two were in turbo cars and both occurred in qualifying/testing.
    Not overly dangerous as they seem.

  • @dorkynerd3957
    @dorkynerd3957 Před rokem +8

    Loved the video mate great job as always

  • @64joew
    @64joew Před rokem +28

    Renault and Reliability, a tale as old as time

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před rokem +7

      fast forward to the 90s - show me 1 williams renault engine failure 😅

    • @vinniamsterdam700
      @vinniamsterdam700 Před rokem +6

      @@1greenMitsi Damon Hill in the lead at Silverstone 93.🤣

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před rokem +4

      @@vinniamsterdam700 it was rhetorical but ok - you get the point

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Před rokem +4

      @@vinniamsterdam700 Also Hill at Monaco in 1996

    • @jdawgproductions8178
      @jdawgproductions8178 Před rokem +5

      Also the Nissan Renault partnership that plagues the streets with unreliable transmissions abs timing chain issues along with inefficient designs

  • @kenxiong6830
    @kenxiong6830 Před rokem +7

    Definitely appreciate the time and effort put into this video.

  • @haydenhodgson8716
    @haydenhodgson8716 Před rokem +1

    This is such an amazing video just subscribed keep it up !

  • @iannorton4463
    @iannorton4463 Před rokem +1

    Just found you. Really enjoyed this video thanks for that and your hard work. Very well done 👏. 👌

  • @Prezes1892
    @Prezes1892 Před rokem +1

    That was properly thorough work, congratulations and thanks for that!

  • @nickk1658
    @nickk1658 Před rokem +9

    Nice video. Enjoyed this! I was at the 1982 Detroit GP and my house was only 2 miles away, so I could hear the cars throughout that week.
    One point: you repeatedly mentioned Switzerland during the 1982 season. Switzerland banned circuit racing in 1955, after the Le Mans disaster. There hasn't been a Swiss GP in Switzerland since then. The 1975 and 1982 Swiss GPs were held across the border at France's Dijon-Prenois circuit.

    • @LathropLdST
      @LathropLdST Před 11 měsíci

      There is planning buzz around a comeback on Formula E/electric cards.
      Still held back by cantonal resistance.

  • @migram4190
    @migram4190 Před rokem

    Great narration and coverage! Subbed 😊😊

  • @vladimirzimonja8103
    @vladimirzimonja8103 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video about the greatest part of F1 racing. Good knowledge and info on teams,drivers,cars,engines and stuff. You even put in a part of the clip when that commentator explaines that they will use this engine and drivetrain in qualifying and this in the race. Well done. For an F1 and MotoGP nerd like me,it's my cup of tea definitely so- do another one!
    Cheers!!

  • @victoruribe2465
    @victoruribe2465 Před rokem +2

    The turbochargers were amazing. Higher speeds, excellent overtakes, massive attrition, and great maneuvering.

  • @kungfuwitcher7621
    @kungfuwitcher7621 Před 11 měsíci

    Very well put vid. It’s a time that I lament as I didn’t get in to F1 until the late 90’s, was always a rally fan and other off-road racing. Missed some good racing from back then.

  • @vinzzzV
    @vinzzzV Před rokem +1

    Quality content!

  • @aidendelong8252
    @aidendelong8252 Před rokem +2

    Peter I’m sure you get this often but I’ve been here since the beginning and these videos never fail to amaze and entertain me. Keep it up. Love the vids

  • @donnymac990
    @donnymac990 Před rokem +3

    Such a great video. Didn't know the 80s were such a crazy time in f1

  • @crystalracing4794
    @crystalracing4794 Před rokem +4

    Your level of presentation is seriously and objectively impressive (I'm not just saying this because I'm subbed to you).

  • @iankweheria
    @iankweheria Před rokem +2

    1400 horsepower 😵‍💫

  • @Thebibs
    @Thebibs Před 11 měsíci +1

    thank you so much for this. This era was when I first started watching F1 as a teenager.

  • @paulbijnsdorp6601
    @paulbijnsdorp6601 Před rokem +1

    As an eleven year old boy I read an article in the Dutch pop-sci magazine 'Kijk' about the upcoming debut of the Renault turbo engine at the British Grand Prix in 1977. It was enough for me to start watching F1. I still do and look back at the first turbo-era with a big smile, despite the lack of succes for the French turbo pioneers.

  • @markovasil1608
    @markovasil1608 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video documentary ❤

  • @ananastudio
    @ananastudio Před rokem +1

    Man I love the 80's, F1's turbo era, Group B in rallye, Group C in sports car and Heavy Metal

  • @onthevergeofvani11a21

    great job peter brook puting this together

  • @Mayoisglue
    @Mayoisglue Před rokem +1

    Great video Peter!

  • @gregderise9969
    @gregderise9969 Před rokem +14

    I really appreciate and enjoy the quality of the work you do that’s unique among Formula One lovers on CZcams. I do like, share with friends, and write long comments to promote what you do. This is a particular favorite because it centers around the era in which I became captivated, became an instant fan when I knew no other race fans of any kind, when I walked into my mothers house on a hot humid Mississippi Coast afternoon in the summer of 1986 to take a break while mowing the grass in her large (3/4 acre) lawn to see if there was anything good to watch on TV for awhile. I flipped the dial (when there were dials) to CBS, and there it was - the lead. up to a form of racing I knew nothing about, but I was already a fan of open wheel racing, in those days CART in the United States. F1 so blew away CART for me I didn’t return to mowing grass until the sun had traveled to a much more westerly part of the sky. Come the British Gran Prix next I was already a confirmed serious fan. Thanks for bringing back some great memories from almost 37 years ago (😱 time …!)

  • @dougsrepair1060
    @dougsrepair1060 Před rokem +1

    This is a great review of the turbo era and Formula 1.

  • @robertsaget67
    @robertsaget67 Před rokem

    Good vid, and thanks for the good subtitles.

  • @funkytownjedi
    @funkytownjedi Před 3 měsíci

    Great video 😊

  • @IliKeCAkEeverMrCake
    @IliKeCAkEeverMrCake Před rokem +3

    dude i need more of this in my life

  • @tropfen
    @tropfen Před rokem +5

    great video as always. time flies when i watch your videos. there is something so calming yet captivating about your presentation style. keep it up!

  • @seanthompson258
    @seanthompson258 Před rokem +1

    GOOD VIDEO THX

  • @grogery1570
    @grogery1570 Před 3 dny

    I remember the pop out valves to reduce turbo power! Alain Prost once said that McLaren were using only 3.5 bar of boost because if you used 4 you would weaken the valve and it would pop out at the worst time. The truth was they had figured out a work around and were running over 4 bar! It was some thing everyone figured out how to do by the end of the season but by then it was too late.

  • @barrywatts8501
    @barrywatts8501 Před rokem +2

    That was a really inspiring . I want to start getting into f1 again. As last year I only watched the first few races then lost intrest. The early 80s cars are the best looking I think

  • @cvtt3194
    @cvtt3194 Před rokem +3

    The original turbo era was all about speed and power. Those were some exciting times, the best times.

  • @krishall268
    @krishall268 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent work

  • @digggerrjones7345
    @digggerrjones7345 Před rokem

    As a new subscriber, this video is a fantastic short-form synopsis! Thank you for putting it together as it's a great overview that's not too long for the younger viewers of today with short attention spans. You're a great orator as well!!
    I was lucky enough to attend several races in the '80s when it was at it's peak (like WRC Group B) and it was a sight to see!!! I still wonder what kind of 'fuel' was being pumped through those M12/13s as it smelled distinctly different from the other engines...but we'll probably never know.
    While it's great that America is the largest growing market for F1, I find it sad that it's primarily coming from the carefully constructed and edited "soap opera" on Netflix.

  • @stuartblack9258
    @stuartblack9258 Před rokem

    Extremely well researched 👍

  • @Zog26
    @Zog26 Před rokem

    Didier Pironi and his magical scarlet car were my hero when I was growing up.

  • @flatcapfiddle
    @flatcapfiddle Před 9 měsíci +1

    "Farrari built a glass cannon" - best metaphor ever

  • @lejonge
    @lejonge Před rokem +5

    @PeterBrookF1 This video is really excellent mate. This era of F1 was truly spectacular, the drivers and cars.
    Just a couple of quick corrections:
    Prost did not win at Interlagos in 1982, he won at Jacarepagua. 14:35
    Kyalami was Prost's first win of 1982. 14:48.
    Still an excellent video, though.

  • @crusherbmx
    @crusherbmx Před 3 měsíci

    I remember watching the 1982 Canadian Grand Prix and hearing Jackie Stewart, doing colour commentary, explain that Piquet and Patrese had two different engines and then went on to explain the difference between the Cosworth, turbos and superchargers as well as mentioning ground effects...that's a lot to explain....and I got a lot of it mixed up....what I heard was that turbos are faster and lighter than the Cosworth and a supercharger is heavier still, but it had some trick to make it stick to the track better....I was 11 by the way....and I think he may have been talking about the Brabham fan car when I heard him say that superchargers stuck to the ground better...

  • @paulpaulie
    @paulpaulie Před 3 měsíci

    Great video

  • @billbart6201
    @billbart6201 Před rokem

    Splendid video Mr.Brock.

  • @btl4220
    @btl4220 Před rokem

    Great 👍 video
    I loved this Era
    Thx

  • @kiiiisu
    @kiiiisu Před 10 měsíci

    great vid thanks!

  • @russotusso1695
    @russotusso1695 Před rokem +2

    Speaking of turbo era, I always found Gilles Monaco P2 qualifying lap incredible, despite awful car aerodynamically, with engine that was awful for Monaco, he managed to barely miss out on pole.

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler Před rokem +1

    A great vid! Fact-laden, great footage, concise. Easy sub, for me!

  • @StreetComp
    @StreetComp Před rokem +4

    Talk about excess: 6bar is 87psi! Your stock turbocharged car has 5 to 15psi and it feels pretty good when you floor it :)

  • @Sustrii
    @Sustrii Před rokem

    Nice touch at 0:30, using the 037 that was a supercharged inline four

  • @Tubesmaney
    @Tubesmaney Před 5 měsíci

    An excellent review. Thank you.

  • @wade998
    @wade998 Před 9 měsíci

    Those are some great film photographs!

  • @nicholaswexberg3621
    @nicholaswexberg3621 Před měsícem

    Yes, PGMI fuel injection and variable Venturi turbo technology came from this era. The RA186 Honda turbo engine found in the FW11 made more hp than Hindas dyno could measure as it stopped at 1350hp but there was 1500rpm left on the quali engine. The inline 4 BMW 1500 turno was measured at over 1500 horse power in the BT186 as driven by Gerhardt Berger. No electronic aids, a Hewland manual box, huge slick tires, and aero that wouldn’t even rival a modern F1 car without its wings.

  • @jordza2k11
    @jordza2k11 Před rokem +4

    Imagine winning your home race in a car from your country yet for once all anyone remembers is who finished 2nd, meanwhile Tyrrell were DQ'd for one thing and one thing only, to get them out the picture to get whatever the turbo teams wanted

  • @brookie
    @brookie Před rokem

    another brook hey o/ loved this video

  • @dylansmit3883
    @dylansmit3883 Před rokem +2

    Regarding 1987: the picture of the Ligier is of the JS29B with the unique and unraced Alfa Romeo 415T twin turbo inline four fitted.
    Rene Arnoux badmouthed it after a test, giving new parent company Fiat the excuse to pull Alfa Romeo out of F1 to prioritize Ferrari.
    Ligier then bought Megatron-BMW engines from Arrows, which had bought the upright M12/13s. Brabham was forced to make do with the leftover sideways 1986 engines as BMW left the sport.

  • @superfast30
    @superfast30 Před rokem +2

    The turbo era captured the true essence of F1. Everything was on the ragged edge!

  • @chrisnuno3457
    @chrisnuno3457 Před rokem +1

    Awesome, and well informed video brother. God bless.

  • @philipbain
    @philipbain Před 5 měsíci

    Lotus ran in traditional colours at South Africa 1968 (being a long haul race with everything shipped down to South Africa, on New Year's Day, the equipment used had more to do with 1967 than 1968), their final world championship grand prix without a sponsor livery, the Gold Leaf livery debuting in an F1 World Championship Grand Prix at the Spanish Grand Prix in 1968.

  • @shanealun
    @shanealun Před 9 měsíci

    that 1983 Brabham was not only successful, it was imho the best and fastest looking F1 car ever. a piece of art...

  • @MySteamChannel
    @MySteamChannel Před rokem

    My Local Adelaide Australian Grand Prix in the 80s was always awesome with the turbo's down Brabham straight.

  • @NiguelXzechro8398
    @NiguelXzechro8398 Před rokem +1

    Would love for you to cover the early day of F1 pre war to GP era

  • @nafta-lefa2053
    @nafta-lefa2053 Před 11 dny

    Keke's style is far more aggressive than hyper aggressive. And so is his driving style. He also was the fastest naturally aspirating driver

  • @MRBalimBalim
    @MRBalimBalim Před 5 měsíci

    00:02 🏎 Turbo Era Overview
    Overview of Formula 1's turbo era, emphasizing the transition from 2014.
    Introduction to hybrid turbo engines and historical context with Group B and C.
    00:54 🔧 Engine Regulations Evolution (1950s - 1967)
    Exploration of early F1 engine regulations in the 1950s.
    Transition to specific displacement limits and impact on mid-engined cars.
    03:17 🚗 Compressed vs. Naturally Aspirated Engines
    Explanation of compressed engines, covering superchargers and turbochargers.
    Insight into the advantages and disadvantages of both.
    06:32 ⚙ Turbo Era Expansion (1981)
    Turbo power expansion with Ferrari and Toleman joining in 1981.
    Impact on Constructors' Championship and challenges faced.
    11:43 🏆 Three-Way Dominance Battle (1982)
    Three-way dominance battle between Brabham, Ferrari, and Renault.
    Technical details of Brabham's BT52, Renault's RE40, and Ferrari's package.
    17:48 🔧 Performance and Challenges (1983)
    Performance and challenges of Brabham's BT52, Renault's RE40, and Ferrari's package.
    Nelson Piquet's consistent podium finishes and second Drivers' title.
    21:54 🚗 McLaren's Dominance in 1984
    McLaren's partnership with Porsche, producing a competitive car with 800 hp.
    Lauda and Prost winning 12 races, securing both Drivers' and Constructors' titles.
    26:31 🌬 Challenges with BMW's Power in 1985
    BMW's M12 engine reaching 1,400 hp but facing efficiency issues.
    Turbo lag, Pirelli tire challenges, and understeer affecting performance.
    29:21 🏎 Williams' Dominance in 1986
    Williams securing Constructors' title with a robust car and Honda engine.
    McLaren facing challenges, and Prost defending Drivers' title with race setups.
    34:23 ⚡ McLaren's 1988 Triumph
    McLaren's Honda-powered car dominating with 15 wins.
    Senna and Prost showcasing superior performance despite power restrictions.
    36:42 🏁 Turbo Era's End in 1989
    Turbocharged engines outright banned, marking the end of an era.
    McLaren's Honda V10 facing power limitations, paving the way for a new F1 era.

  • @paullambert4445
    @paullambert4445 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you. I have been watching F1 since 1984 religiously. I watched Monaco every year before that with my dad after the Indy 500 on ABC. The first turbo was thrilling. 🔪🎸

  • @dazaro3
    @dazaro3 Před měsícem

    The 80s was the best decade,,not just for F1 , what a great video

  • @borregoayudando1481
    @borregoayudando1481 Před rokem

    fun fact, we're at that powerlevels (4 digit teen-hundreds) with Formula Drift now, it's not WRC/F1 where youre going as fast as possible, but still interesting to compare it output-to-output as cars.

  • @flakey7832
    @flakey7832 Před rokem

    the late 70s to early 90s were absolutely bonkers in motorsports in general, just look wherever. there's insane cars in every discipline and country. rally cars were bombs on gravel, f1 cars were bombs on tarmac fueled with toluene, group C was a thing and they were hitting close to 360km/h and peugeot hit 408km/h on the mulsanne straight just for the hell of it, group 5 had the zakspeed capri which had a tiny engine revving to the moon with double turbos and double intercoolers. simply fascinating

  • @stevenduke260
    @stevenduke260 Před 11 měsíci

    Excellent 👍 Thanks.

  • @nicholaswexberg3621
    @nicholaswexberg3621 Před měsícem

    …the BMW turbo from Austria was rumored to be a “seasoned” 1600cc block from a road car that was left outside through the winter and destroked then treated to the pistons, heads, and turbos and gameboy caliber air fuel metering of the day. TAG (Porsche) had so much experience with their Lemans turbo 956 engines and dominated for 84-85, 86 being a bit of a fluke as piquet and mansell welchec on the deal in Adelaide. For 86: the Honda had finally packaged their “black boxes” into 1 programmed fuel injection computer to optimize turbo boost vs af rario on the fly by drivers. by 87, Honda was so impressed by Senna at lotus that they practically donated the RA187 found in the Williams to the 99t Lotus of Ayrton Senna, whos Decourage bodied Lotus could not consistently match the Patrick had penned Williams for aerodynamic efficiency. Even with active suspension Senna could not consistently out. perform the Williams with the same engine

  • @Alessiodiani
    @Alessiodiani Před rokem

    I love the thumbnail, i want it as wallpaper❤️❤️

  • @kimiicemanmz
    @kimiicemanmz Před rokem

    That was interesting... thanks man...✌️

  • @nicholaswexberg3621
    @nicholaswexberg3621 Před měsícem

    1st-3rd in these gearboxes was quite short as they experimented with spread out gears to try and harness the boost vs traction ratio but decided on short ratios til 4th as wheel spin was unavoidable even in race trim. Once in 4th there was almost no wheel spin in race settings, however Berger would go in to say he couldn’t go flat out til 5th or 6th at over 170mph in the B186 BMW.

  • @speedweenie7394
    @speedweenie7394 Před rokem +1

    Very good 👍

  • @Arsenic71
    @Arsenic71 Před rokem

    The DFV is truly an epic engine. Props for spelling 'gases' right instead of 'gasses' in the subtitles.

  • @SaltyChip
    @SaltyChip Před rokem

    32:58 god I LOVE the shape of that race car! It looks like a grown up version of a go cart!

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 Před rokem +3

    1980’s F1 was crazy!

  • @brianmessemer2973
    @brianmessemer2973 Před měsícem

    Excellent! A+