SSL THE BUS + Demo & Review
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2022
- Contact: info@thecabinrecordings.com
Instagram: @musicinthecabin
Twitter: Alec Brits
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Gear Used:
SSL Bus +
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Hey guys! Made a terminology mistake on the video. It’s Sigma stereo mode, not Delta as I was saying in the video!
A greek should know better.
@@nickswitchvert I know right?! 😂
@@alecbritsHi, can I use this unit for live performances?
@@sergeyg245 I think there are a few on tour. :)
SSL is really changed in a amazing way! And as always, amazing in-depth demo and amazing demo song!
Thanks so much Peter! :)
@@alecbrits Ok, I just received my Bus+ and I love it!
Didn’t realise how fully featured this is. Super well thought out and a setting for any kind of input signal
It’s a beast! :)
Your knowledge about gear and application thereof continues to amaze me Alec. And loving the songs you're churning out - sheesh! You da guru.
Thanks so much! :) will keep working on new tunes and content.
this is the best review I have seen on this product so far !!! ( and I have seen a lot of it ) well done once again
Thank you so much Jerome! :D
Appreciate the Demo! I picked one up not long ago and am loving it on pretty much everything as well
It’s a monster! :) definitely would love one here full time. Congrats on your purchase.
Thank you for yet another awesome video Alec :-) Im picking one up on Friday !!! will report back
Thank you Derek! :D I hope you are enjoying it.
Thank you, Alec. The SSL seems really involved and good value for money.
Thanks Tim! :)
Great hardware !
I am enjoying every knob I turn.
It’s so solid! :D
Well done Alec. Don't forget we also want this unit to make Cafe Latte. LOL
Thanks for the great information in this video.
Hahaha :) maybe in the next version! No worries.
Boss vid bud
Loving the “Bass face” for that BV part 🤣🤣😂.
Really sounds great this box bud
Thank you my man! :)
good, efficient review and demonstration
Thanks so much Thomas! :)
Great review, this is the one to get
Thank you! :) it’s such a solid unit!
That was so good Even thou I’m not familiar with all the gear, you manage to explain things in such a way that I understand more about “The Bass”
Well done 👍
Thank you!! ❤️
Thank you! great video!
Thank you Massimo! :)
What a great review man!
Thank you so much! :)
@@alecbrits You're welcome! 😀
Nice Hear From You Brother That Is So Amazing SSL The Bus I Love That I am Order It Now I Need For My PA System Too................ Thanks Bro..................
Enjoy it! :)
Until now I thought it was an SSL-Comp with way too many buttons and knobs. But your review made me understand the unit for the first time. Love the Delta Stereo and the D-EQ! ... I might have to check it out ;D
It took a little bit of time to get my head around it, but once I understood it, it became second nature. It’s a wicked box!
That Delta mode is killer - I was excited about the m/s but that does quite a bit! As usual, your review is the most thorough I've seen.
Is this one gonna be a keeper for you?
Thank you so much Nkozi!! :). It’s a fantastic unit. 👌🏽
When I’m next in a position to buy some gear, this is really high up on the list.
Great vid as always! Hey Alex, I see you're using Logic Pro X. Do you know any way to "group" Output channels? I have a summing mixer and I use 3-4 different stereo outputs for drums. Im trying to figure out if there's a way to group or sum Outputs (and apply additional processing like comp or eq) which eventually route to the stereo mix bus channel/output. Thanks
Hey Jess! :) thanks so much! I route my summing stacks out to the console when I mix.
What an absolute unit. I don't regret getting it a bit. FB Mode and M/S was sealing the deal for me since you can actually compress and not sound like a classic SSL if you strife for a different sound at times... more relaxed etc. On the SSL-sound-side it excels ofc.
Agreed! :)
I have a question. I just got my SSl Bus+ and i love it but when i switch into Mid/Side Mode i get a little impulse "pop sound" on my speakers. This also happens when i engage the D EQ bands and when i switch the Compressor post EQ. It doesnt happen when i switch through the different compression modes (THD,F/B,4K).
Is this normal or do i have to send mine back? Cause i cant hear this in the video.
@@kingjames2845 There are several reason for Pops when engaging Analog Units. Most common is you got some sort of DC Voltage in your audiopath so when you swap channels your speaker membranes get "reset" for a brief moment thus producing a click cause voltage rises/falls on a sample basis from ZERO to the DC-offset. It could be within the unit, but maybe make sure its not your inserts from bad connections/cables or the output from your converters. Sometimes it can be stuff like poorly setup Powerrails in other Hardware. I had a 500-series Rack that had 16.4V+ and 15.6V- producing DC-Offset in every soundfile..nothing too bad but still something to consider for postproduction. Another thing would be you convert to S/PDIF..some convertes abruptly Null when nearing low levels, thus producing clips..my "Swiss Sonic Miniconverter" does this working with a RME RAyDat card.
@@ginfusedsounds thank you for your comment! I checked the SSL not in my studio setup but at home. So I had some bad cables (3.5mm aux to stereo xlr for the input) because I just have the integrated soundcard of my pc at home. I'll have to try it in the studio with my "real" setup and check.
Hi, great video ! Ím just wondering why your unit seems to have blue LED´s ? How did you do this ? cheers Volker
Thanks so much! :) I’m actually not sure! It was in its factory setting for me when I had it. There may be something in the owners manual about this.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Its a homerun by SSL. Absolutely versatile, and it sounds terrific.
Big big fan of this box for sure. 👌🏽
Alrighty, I have to immediately cancel my subscription to your channel Alec. It's clear, my bank account cannot survive your content. Well done, Alec.
Ah! 😂 I’m sorry!
Amazing review an music as always! I’m new to mixing so I’m wondering if the dual mode allows to process mono sources. I’m thinking on getting this a Swiss army compressor
I believe it’s a dual mono so you can very much use each side independently. :)
Would so love to have a total-recall option on this unit with a plugin connection (like wes audio gear). For now I will continue to use my SSL G Bus Comp MK2 (API 500) and the SSL Fusion.
Your current combo is still really solid! :)
awesome video. i‘m thinking about getting one piece of hardware for my master bus. i‘m doing a lot of orechestral mockups (williams, michael giacchino, alan silvestri style). but also doing all kind of music when needed. so mockups sound always a bit dead. thinking about buying the SA4000-5 MK2, ssl bus+ or ssl fusion. do you think that make sense? what hardware what you recommend on the master bus? great channel, thank you, all the best
I would lean towards the buss + it offers incredible tone and versatility for a seriously good price. :) in the future you could always add an eq of choice.
Thank you!
Thank you Dmitri! :)
Thanks for the review and demo.. I appreciate it. This is the best review and demo for this product. I'm really interested in getting one. Can you tell me how it does on a vocal channel? I'm not looking for a color box comp, and really curious how it does on a vocal channel.
Thank you so much! :) I don’t have the unit anymore sadly, so I can’t weigh in on how it reacts on any elements that were not highlighted in the video.
Thanks!!!! That's video is great!!!! Just a quick question Alec. About recording voices in a mono track to control the dynamic a so on. Do you recommended it too? Many many thanks!!!!
It will do the job really well specially with the D-EQ section and the feedback compression style. :)
@@alecbrits Thanks so much!!!
Great review! Just a small correction: it's not a delta, it's a sigma. Sigma is normally used in math notation to express summing operations. this mode is called summed sidechain stereo.
...and as I was writing this, I hear my name mentioned in the video. That freaked me out big time 🤣
Thank you for the kind words, I love how much fun people are having with this unit out there! Cheers
Matteo
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Hey Matteo!! :) thank you so much for that feedback, I will pin a comment at the top of the video with that correction. Great work on the unit!
It would be nice if you would do a review of the NDH30's. I have pair and I think they are the best mixing/masterning headphone that I have (including 3 Focals, Audeze LCD-X, 1990's, etc). Your review might include comments on how or if you ever use headphones for mixing/mastering.
I’ve been working on how to film a review on them. :) I’ve got a couple ideas currently, but if you want to have anything specific looked into, please let me know.
SSL is killing it with these units. How is the noise and cross over distortion? Hope they haven't compromised too much for the price they are offering this unit
Seems really good to me! Nowhere near as noisy as the fusion. :)
Alec, which would you get a SSL Bus + or a Wes Audio NGBus Comp.? You could only have one. The SSL Bus + comp is $500 less because it is on sale right now.
I’ve not used the NGBus comp yet, so I can’t really give you an experienced answer here. I think something to keep in mind is recall, so the NG will always snap back to the settings that you have setup in your session.
@@alecbrits Alec, Thank you for your reply and input. It is much appreciated. Your channel content is excellent.
Fantastic video! What camera and lens please?
Thanks!! :D It’s a Canon 5D MKiV with the 16-35mm 2.8mm. :)
looks great i have a mk i
Would you happen to do a review on the BAE 1073 sometime soon?
Hey Francisco, I won’t be doing any BAE stuff for the foreseeable future. :) I’ve done all the AMS Neve 1073 versions.
Umm, I'm pretty sure the original SSL bus compressor is a feedback design with the detection VCA behind the compressing VCA. If I'm remembering correctly, it was based on the BBC state compressor. The feed-forward mode would be the new mode on this.
Thanks for the feedback! :)
Hi Alec, is this now in your rack? Just curious. Awesome review as usual!!!
Hey Philip, thanks so much. It is not in my rack currently, but it will be in my rack in the future. Really miss having it around!
@@alecbrits Got it! Well between Marc Daniel Nelson’s review and yours, I placed an order. Reviews like that really helped me consider pulling the trigger. Thanks again!!!
can you use this and 2 separate compressors when tracking?
You sure can! :)
I have a question. I just got my SSl Bus+ and i love it but when i switch into Mid/Side Mode i get a little impulse "pop sound" on my speakers. This also happens when i engage the D EQ bands and when i switch the Compressor post EQ. It doesnt happen when i switch through the different compression modes (THD,F/B,4K).
Is this normal or do i have to send mine back? Cause i cant hear this in the video.
Would be good to reach out to SSL or your dealer and ask.
@@alecbrits didn't get an answer yet. But my question is if you experience the same or not?
@@kingjames2845 if it was not heard in this video, then it was not present on this unit. It was a review unit, so after the video was done, the unit was sent back.
I must admit that the initial pass on the comparisons are not obvious, but upon numerous replays the differences become obvious. No doubt my age is a factor, but also warming up to the material helps to not be distracted by it. BTW, one of the tracks reminds me of the Tubes :)
Yeah, in subsequent reviews I have been more aggressive with the settings so that initial listens are a little more contrasted. :) thanks for the feedback.
As usual the song makes the gear and not the other way around. I come for fhe reviews but I stay for the bangers.
That’s extremely kind! :) thank you so much.
I know it’s impossible for you to do a real review for it but is it possible for you to do a video talking about your ATC’s? I’d love to hear a review/run through of what made you get them and what you like about them
Sure thing David. :)
@@alecbrits thanks!!! Love the channel. Keep it up!
I want you on spotify!!! fan of your music (even if its part of). your unique music is rare in this generation. please work on your music :)
Thanks so much! :) it will be coming out on Spotify this year.
@@alecbrits wow. so excited. Love from Israel :)
I feel a little confused being a recording engineer for so long but appearantly not being able to notice much of the added processing. I did sometimes hear a slight difference but mostly it was too subtle for my ears. Maybe I wasn't listening to the right aspects of the sound. Also on the acoustic guitar I preferred the untreated signal.
lol same here
Thanks for the feedback! :) I’ll post more extreme examples in the future in conjunction with my personal taste examples.
@@alecbrits I bet the youtube compression is covering any difference. I can't hear the difference either with my studio monitors or my headphones
自从关注了您的频道 我的钱包空了 但是心情好了 谢谢您的分享~！！！ 哈哈哈
Hahaha! :) thanks for watching, I wish your wallet the best of luck for the future videos!
How nice this unit making guitar sound wide, just wow, was it recorded by one mic only? super nice review 👏👏👏
Likely double tracked guitars. :)
@@alecbrits sounds awesome! all your recording are masterpieces, very nice job! I'm curious if you got an opportunity to compare analogue and plugin versions of ssl comps
this or the Wes audio NG bus comp? Decisions ....
Tough choices, if software recall is your main priority, then the Wes will win. But the Bus + has a lot more functionality. :)
可以评测Crane Song STC-8/M 吗？我真的很喜欢他的产品！！！
I will see what I can do to get one in to review. :)
Good stuff man! If you ever need anything from Vintage King, feel free to reach out! Always happy to hook it up with some discounts 👍
Thank you so much Eric! :) always been a big fan of vintage king, next time I’m in the states I will shoot you a message.
@@alecbrits Sounds great buddy!
Where are these types of compressors connected? audio interface?
It’s connected as an insert with my audio interface. :)
@@alecbritsok👍
through 1 cable only? or are 2 needed on right and left?
@@Sicoliricsyou will need 4 cables. In L & R. Out L & R.
@@alecbrits Thank you very much but I am worried because on my Apollo twin USB I have 2 line inputs on the back, could I connect the 4 cables? is there any way?
I can honestly hear quite a big difference and I am on my iPhone
It’s a pretty hefty piece of kit. 👌🏽
Lol I’m never getting rid of my Rupert Neve Portico II.
Ooof, I wanna get my hands on one of them ASAP. 👌🏽
@@alecbrits You know what RND is all about. It’s perfection.
Strong Beck vibes on this track.
Thanks Helman! :)
Oh no… my wife is going to kill me :)
Hahaha, oh boy!
…Very excellent review, as always!
The original SSL 2 bus compressor was a one trick pony for the most part. It gave fast transients which make the music pop along with compressing the music. There is no other compressor that does this as well. The fast transients makes it punchy and more exciting. It is so good that thousands of studios have one, because it just makes 2 bus exciting. Personally I wished SSL came out with a 2nd compressor instead of adding all these features on this unit along with the original. It almost takes away what made the original SSL compressor so great. Not sure if this unit which is built in China has the same exact parts as the original one either.
Thanks for your thoughts on the unit Glenn. :)
i wish Studiocare would sponsor me : )
The best people. 👌🏽
How hard can you push this compressor, I push my mixes really hard, all demonstations are like classic comp. style doing almost nothing. Can you with this box push your mixes to the limit so to speak or this is it, just a little push and that's it? :))
I think that’s a taste thing more than anything, you can of course push this compressor very hard, but that depends on what you are trying to achieve. Might be best to get a demo unit and try it and see if it’s the right kind of Pushed sound you are going for.
@@alecbrits Yeah, you're right ... Thanks
I wanty
It’s a tasty piece!
i want this thing, but it does too much lol I don't even touch my bus chain anymore.
Its a bit of a learning curve, but its so worth it! =)
Every time he says "so as you can hear over there" I'm like "I didn't hear anything"
Sorry about that, I’ll post more extreme examples in combination with my preferred settings. :) thanks for the feedback.
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Vibes. 👌🏽
@@alecbrits thks for those reviews dude
A1
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I don’t really rate this product way to over priced. It should at least be 50% cheaper.
For starters this unit after about 2 months for some reason starts getting really hot. Analogue. I don’t think
So m dac technology is digital. Also this unit is very hungry for power and in this day and age will have your electricity meter spinning at top
Spread. Not worth the price over 2000 plenty of other units on the market. Also note that these are mass produced in China with cheaper components unlike previous made inOxford. Basically it’s Oxford via Beijing.save your money and get a neve or a Avalon sp747 if you can. A Friend informed me of parts being sourced from the same company behringer get them from. Hence maximum profit minimum outlay. Stay away from these units if you want to waste your money and also have an
High electricity bill.
Thanks for your views on the unit. :)
Boss vid bud
Loving the “Bass face” for that BV part 🤣🤣😂.
Really sounds great this box bud
Thank you my man! :) bass face is just a fact of life these days isn’t it?! 😂😂
Yeah, it’s a serious piece of kit for sure. 👌🏽