What You Need To Know About Convictions: Romans 14
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- Is alcohol sinful? How about tattoos, movies, music, the Sabbath, or food? We have got to get biblical when it comes to our convictions. Biblical in our understanding of whether or not these things are sinful and biblical in how we treat those who disagree with us. This verse by verse teaching through Romans 14 will give real clarity to the issue of your convictions and how to treat others who differ. You’ll also find out what is meant by “the one who is weak in faith” and what is meant by “whatsoever is not of faith is sin”.
Teacher: Mike Winger
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30:33 "The conscience can't make sin ok, but it can make ok things into sin." Excellent quote!
SO GOOD
@@konkoor881Not really, if you feel "wrong" doing something, then it's wrong for you (and you already know that). I know that committing sin is often fun, there's a "rush" associated with doing something your conscience has forbidden, but if you aren't supposed to do something, don't do it.
A great example is listening to Ghost B.C., the pretend (maybe?) Satanist band. I don't think listening to Ghost is inherently a sin, but if your conscience is telling you not to do it, then don't, because it is sin for you.
On top of it, don't force your conscience to grow calloused, so you can "enjoy more stuff". You've been given a conscience for a reason, use it and heed its call.
I think the main reason you'd have a problem with this is that right now you are wanting to do something that you know you're not supposed to, and you're looking for an excuse, or confirmation, that you can do it. But you already know, if you have to ask, the answer is usually no.
@@konkoor881 1. I'm not a child, nor a predator, thus, I'm not on discord.
2. CZcams is a fine spot for debate, but you're just wrong here
3. I literally said the opposite, that "if you have to ask, then it's probably no", how do you misquote me so poorly as to literally say the opposite of what I said?
4. Your attitude is entirely unbecoming of literally what this passage is about in the first place. What do you think you're doing? Why are you so mad? 😂
5. How does my (correct) reading of this passage cause anxiety? It's incredibly simple. Do you feel your conscience telling you not to play 10 hours of Fortnite a day? Then yeah, stop playing 10 hours of Fortnite a day. There is no anxiety in this, you'd have to twist this meaning entirely in order to become anxious over this.
6. Yes, many things can become a sin. Heck, worshiping God in the wrong way can be a sin, Serving the poor in a specific way can be a sin, but it's all about the conscience of the person, those "weak in faith".
@@konkoor881 Well, God told me no such thing on the matter, in fact, God gave me a lifetime of knowing people who try to twist the rules in order to justify sin, and God gave me a sense of pattern recognition. So, pretty sure God gave me that as a layup.
And considering your continued anger, it certainly seems like you have a problem with restrictions, why? Do you have a problem with guardrails on the road? Do you have a problem with the walls of a cup? Restrictions give form and use to a thing. Restrictions on our conduct give us safety and freedom.
A cup without walls can hold no water, is that water truly free, or simply useless? Is a road without clear lines more free, or just more dangerous?
What if someone believes and prays to the virgin Mary and believes in the holy Trinity. Do I tell them abt it or would that mean that I'm causing them to stumble in their faith
Before coming to Christ, I spent 10+ years getting tattooed! I found it as a way OUT and a way to escape the pain I was dealing with on the inside (abusive relationship and depression), but after I got saved, I had a conviction to stop getting tattoos, and I repented for all my tattoos! Now, my tattoos represent my old life apart from God. They are a part of my testimony and also a reminder of what I was before Jesus rescued me. As a heavily tatted Christian (now), I can help another brother/sister understand God's goodness and mercy. What the enemy intended for evil, God will turn for good. My tattoos have been such a great conversation starter for me to lead people to the gospel and how Jesus SAVED me! All glory be to God! AMEN 🙏🏼💗
Many blessings to you. Thank you for your sound teachings & obedience to the Lord!
Amen brother now I came Christian but I had another conviction about tattoos that if it’s done in faith and the tattoos aren’t pagan or anything els that’s considered sinful it’s okay. But I won’t destroy your conviction If it’s sinful to you it’s sinful and I’m not going to try and change your mind. We need peace not division.
HalleluYah!! This same thing happened to me. He is so good!
What if someone believes and prays to the virgin Mary and believes in the holy Trinity. Do I tell them abt it or would that mean that I'm causing them to stumble in their faith
Beautiful testimony, thanks for sharing your experience!
Mike you truly are a blessing. I seem to always have your videos on a loop whether I'm sleeping or cleaning or just as entertainment. Please never stop this ministry is such a blessing. Thank you for your obedience to the Lord
Mike, I don’t know whether you’re funny & humble, or humble & funny. Either way, great teaching! Looking forward to learning more tomorrow!
Yes, he does have a good style of preaching
Kathy B Good his in error
I agree!!! I love his teaching!!
@@JuanJimenez-id2yo in which parts? so I can avoid such things you find fault in him
I’d say humble and funny.
Mike, Romans 14 and 15 led me to salvation after 17 YEARS of questioning my own faith after a works-based "salvation of works" in the Church of Christ. I love this teaching!
After reaching the end of this video, I am now in tears, because this is the FIRST time I have heard anyone preach what the Lord showed me thru these passages 7 years ago. After years of being told "but we're free!" in the mega church I attended at the time, and being called a Pharisee (the truth is I was headed down a law-following path), the Lord led me to study this and it led me to be saved, placing my faith ONLY in the work of Christ on the cross! I cannot find words more than THANK YOU for preaching this!
@@melissahorton6292 Praise the Lord!
@melissahorton6292 would you mind elaborating a bit more of what exactly you were set free from in connection with the Bible’s teaching of salvation? Thanks!
Fantastic teaching. The Church needs more of this. I get a lot of hate from people because I don’t participate in the big holidays, and it’s the pagan aspects for why I don’t. If it’s about Jesus, it should be about Jesus, not Santa, not the Easter Bunny. Personally, I don’t think that makes me weak. But, I do enjoy wine on occasion and I just had my nose pierced; I get a lot of hate for this, too. A lot of people see me as a backslider. I don’t care what they do in their house, but I should be able to explain why (when I am asked) I do or don’t do something without being condemned.
Danae, Thanks for sharing this.
I feel you on the holidays.
My long time friend left me because my girlfriend goes to Church, celebrate holidays, and thinks she is a friend of the world.
Danae, I understand. One son-in-law's sister is in a cult religion that forbids celebrating any holidays, birthdays, etc. So she was missing out on about 30 family celebrations every year. We talked and I told her that if she feels she can't come we understand. But she comes to the Super Bowl party, and she's not a football fan. She comes for the time with family. If her conscience allows it, she can just come to the other events for the family time, and not participate with the presents and other traditions. Her husband, who strictly adheres to these rules, found it to be an acceptable solution to come after presents are done and enjoy the family time. But I was clear that we accept them just coming on non-holiday times if that's what their conscience demands.
@@cmdrdataythat's precisely the answer. Your friends and family don't have to be a part of all of every celebration, when conscience does not allow, there can be accommodations made for the "weaker in faith", which is not to say weak, but rather those with stricter consciences.
As a man who moved out from the city into the province in my area where people are more conservative in their beliefs and they often berate those who don't follow their convictions with regards to clothing, food, and way of worship. Romans 14 has made realize how I am also guilty
of judging them. Thank you Lord Jesus for the spiritual food found in Romans 14. God bless!
As a Christian of 40 years, I have felt like I was solid in my walk in nearly every regard, except one.... It has troubled me how much I JUDGE other believers who are not convicted over the things that seem so clear and obvious to me. Too often it has dimmed my view of others and caused me a lack of peace.
Wow, color ME convicted over this message. It was EXACTLY what I needed to hear. I'm profoundly moved by the lesson I was just taught, and will be praying much over this, over my own heart.
I really enjoy how you take a chapter and teach verse after verse and teach it as written & explain. It keeps the scripture in context and takes man's opinion out....
I really, really, REALLY like your speaking on this Mike Winger. There's been too much "splitting hairs" about these subjects and how legalistic we have become with snobbery and noses up in the air. God will soundly hold us accountable about these matters.
I said the Sabbath was on Saturday and my christian buddy said I was wrong for wanting to rest on that day. Well it caused a huge argument and it was very upsetting that something I consider to be special was being disregard by my Christian friend. He went as far as to tell me that I'm cursed under the law or something like that. That's what made me watch this video to try and understand why it was such a big deal.
Finally! After all these years I finally understand this passage.
Thank you❣️
If you want to understand, even more, read Corinthians 8 it’s all about sacrifice to idols
I'm SO grateful for you Mike.
I highly value your teaching.
God bless you
Such a wonderful teacher you are Mike. Thank you. May Yah continue to bless you.
This is one of my favorite lessons! Mike you do an amazing job explaining Roman's 14
Best message I’ve ever heard on the subject. I will be sharing it with friends and church family. Thank you. I listen to many of your messages.
You’re so right Mike, it is relevant to this day🙏🏾🙌🏾
I needed this. THANK YOU LORD!
I don’t know how anyone can dislike this video. It’s great, thank you!
Great teaching my Brother...I was not clear on this but you have a wonderful way of explaining things . I'm very grateful. God bless you💜💜💜
I’ve been praying about letting each “redeemed” person walk out their own salvation without making judgements from my own walk. This is an answer. Ty. doctrine vs area of liberty.
HalleluYah for this message!! This is exactly what I needed to hear
Thankyou Mike, been enjoying your vids, especially this one `Romans 14`, being new to reading scripture, i was starting to become a little narrow minded, now with this new understanding life will be so much easier, thanks again.
I’ve understood parts of this chapter before, but I get it so much better now! The key for me was to understand what the passage meant by “weaker brother”. Thank you, Mike, for clarifying… it helps me see many circumstances in my life more clearly!!
Thank you pastor mike for pointing out what the issue really is. It really helps. God bless.
Thank you so much for uploading this message. It’s well worded and exactly what I needed to hear!
Love this!! So needed in our world right now!!
Pastor Mike, thank you for this convicting teaching. I saw myself in much of these teachings, and I didn't like what I saw. Thank you for the clear teaching and for helping me refocus my life and day-to-day living on Christ. Blessings to you!!!
Thank you Mike! I agree this passage is a great passage for us Christ followers.
Ty. I love the line by line teaching. I will pray for the W fam.
Pastor Mike, will you pray for healing on my behalf? I just want complete healing, and for me to be alert, and sober minded, to chase after God more. I'm planning on fasting soon, and I ask that you also pray for strength to complete this. I thank you for your ministry, for your guidance, and for your love to others. Just subscribed, and I'm hoping to see a lot more content from you.
This was so good! Thank you I needed this!
this was a good explaination/ summery of this chapter. thank you for clearing this up.
I’m thankful for Christian liberty. I use my liberty to abstain from eating animals due to factory farming and the abuses that go on there.
Very well taught! One thing I would add is that the stumbling block is not just a warning for the strong. It is for both. The one with weak faith throwing their own conscience into the strong's face can cause them to stumble into salvation by works. And that is a far worse situation than a person sinning against their own conscience by having a beer as it can affect their very salvation. I've seen the weak cause the strong to stumble far more often than the strong causing the weak to stumble. The weak person usually digs their heels in harder on their conviction, although they do tend to do the sin of wrongful judging. However, I would argue that they were already in that sin.
This happend to me as i was sitting in my bed praying to The Lord my mother(weak believer) came in and lightly yelled to me «you cant do that! You have to stand when you pray to The Lord (works) and you have to face against the east». And i stumbled and did stand for a short time and it was so tiring but halleluYah as I kept seeking TRUTH i was back to lying flat on my bed and praying to Him”🙌🏾🥰
What if someone believes and prays to the virgin Mary and believes in the holy Trinity. Do I tell them abt it or would that mean that I'm causing them to stumble in their faith
What a wonderful word of Christ Center message. This helps a great deal
A much needed teaching. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your clarification of this Chapter. I am teaching through Romans and I am afraid that if not taught clearly that it will cause some to use it as an excuse for poor behavior
Faith,hope,love.
Thanks Pastor Mike
Hey Pastor Mike! I saw you in the A&O live stream chat a few days ago! One of the first things I thought of when you mentioned flipping a coin in this video, was Dr. Brown and Dr. White flipping a coin to see who would speak first in their predestination debate, which I’m sure you have seen, well, very likely have seen. Anyways, again like I said in the A&O chat, I love your channel and don’t worry fellow Subscribers here, Just because pastor Mike was in the A&O live chat does not mean he is a closet Calvinist:) I love what The Lord is doing through you Pastor Mike, God bless you Sir! Well done!
I just listened to this chapter and was soo surprised!! I’ve never learned this before!! Thanks for this lesson helped me understand more
I think if Romans 14 was taught more the world would be a better place and 1 Corinthians 15
@@SpeeAD Agree 🙏
Great teaching- thanks 💜🎉
Thank you. Eloquent and elegant.
Awesome 👏 approach to the word
great message. moderation and motive are I think good factors to look into when dealing with these kinds of issues. i believe in Hebrews it talks about "weights and sins". not everything is sin but it can get us on a slippery slope towards it.
The video started with a great intro that caught my attention, but it is the truth that made me finish it.
Man I love this guy
You Give the example and many do that one celebrates but use it as opportunity to witness, I can respect that, I Often hear this, The problem is I never see anyone using it as an opportunity to witness
Lol at the cooking wine story good job Mike
The voices crack me up...very relatable
Does anyone else just question every single small thing in life? It’s gotten to a ridiculous extent and it’s honestly embarrassing. What do I do?
This topic has always been so interesting to me and controversial in my life bc generally, my personal convictions differ from that of my immediate family. For example, I used to refuse to take pain medication on my cycle bc I believed God gave that pain/burden to women to bare, and that we should should humbly be disciplined. My mom would tell me I’m crazy for not using the medication that God blessed chemists with the knowledge to create.
Thank you. Please post more sermons. The way you explain things is so interesting.
Dude you are awesome an intelligent man . You confirm the Holy Spirit truly lead my interpretation and private studies!
Excellent!!!!!Teaching❤❤
Thank you.
What an important message. Our Sunday school class is almost finished with a study in Romans (it's been about a year long process). It's sad that Churches split over convictions. My only caution on this issue is the possibility of a person justifying or rationalizing a conviction rather than being led by the Holy Spirit (i.e. I see people winning the lottery and I feel like I'm missing out. So since the Bible doesn't say, "Thou shalt not gamble." I guess it's okay.).
It's too bad 99% of churches decided to cause division (here in Canada) by forcing matters of conscience on their congregants.
Christmas falls under this category. Had an argument with Jehovah Witness about it a while ago. I even threw Romans 14 at them. Looking back, I realized scripture says to not dispute on these liberties.
Ive had concerns about the same thing, good point my brotha
Great teaching I believe the Christian church today suffers from this there is so many disputes of things that just cause so much division in the body of Christ.
Thank you. Trying to apply it to the divisions in the Church regarding covid.
So important for that. So much unnecessary division caused by cov.
Thank you
Isaiah 55 vs 6-7…Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked abandon his way, And the unrighteous person his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD (Jesus), And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.
Amen
Seventh Day Adventists say that Romans 14 does not permit Sabbath-keeping on any other day than Saturday. They say that passage is only talking about certain days for fasting.
45:00 mark I think that's why you're my favorite pastor, I don't care about the fishing stories I like school/teaching lol
Yes, Pastor Mike IS a great teacher! But we all can be a great teachers. Study the Bible and get them Bible tools, it’s not hard work but it does take time to learn, What says the Lord.
I see this application of liberty needed to be kept in mind where the for/against vaccine for covid is concerned. If you choose to do it or don't do it we need to be respectful and not judgmental or proud.
Is this available in a podcast format?
I'm grieved by all the witchcraft & paganism & unholiness I see in the Body. Yet I am mocked for keeping Sabbath.
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Romans:14:6
Because witchcraft and paganism is trending, and I mean that literally, witchcraft is literally trending, horoscopes and such. It will pass and Christianity will remain. That’s the way it’s been forever.
@@travislee1012
Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.
Romans 14:1
Is the Sabbath, part of the law of God, classified as a doubtful thing?
@@marriage4life893 when did God command gentiles to keep a sabbath? We have entered into the rest of Jesus Christ sir.
@@travislee1012 Jesus said in Mark 2:27-28 that the Sabbath is for man.
The Greek for man is Anthros, where we get the study for anthropology, which means mankind. It was created and sanctified by God in Genesis 2. It is the weekly reminder of the Millennial Reign of Christ that is to come. In fact, we will be observing the Sabbath as prophesied in Isaiah 56:1-8. So, you see, Jesus himself said the Sabbath was made for man, not just the Jews. In fact, those biblical festivals in Leviticus 23 that belong to the Lord actually starts with the Sabbath day. Were you aware of that? You can rest in Christ's finished work and remember the day of rest he ordained and said is for mankind. They are not in opposition to each other.
Sincerely, a sister in Christ
1 Thessalonians 5 21, Deuteronomy 4 2
“agree to disagree” , wow. i remember i had a whole debate with my friends about piracy, i don’t not realise that i was putting my own conviction(piracy is a sin) upon them. we went around in circles & just agreed to disagree.
Thank you for sharing this! Praising God for you Pastor Mike. I'm glad to find this video
Wow the major understanding i got out of this was that: the strong believer is the one who has to lay down their liberty for the love of others. Sacrifice.
“In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
Who, BEING in very nature GOD, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he MADE HIMSELF NOTHING by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross!”
Philippians 2:5-8
Like anybody who has strong faith in certain areas of their lives are to imitate Jesus in this way.
Alcohol is no good. When I was born again, I was CHANGED ..and my desires CHANGED .. I was delivered from Alcohol . MY WANT TO CHANGED
I hate tobaccco because I am a recovering addict.
It is only sin if you get drunk tho
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
1 Corinthians:6:12
If you can't control it then it is not expedient for you and you shouldn't do it.
Exactly! I couldn't have said it better myself.
If my brother is offended by my actions than I have become a stumbling block and that is a sin in Gods eyes!
I definitely agree that this is under applied my I don't remember anyone preaching this topic I got saved in 1986 maybe just a general passing reference to it, definitely not a demonstration of it.
Amen!
This feels like pretty much every argument we(you and I)EVER had....lol
I disagree
Well, then, I guess that settles it.
@@MikeWinger 😆
Is there any encouragement from belonging to Christ? Any comfort from his love? Any fellowship together in the Spirit? Are your hearts tender and compassionate? Then make me truly happy by agreeing wholeheartedly with each other, loving one another, and working together with ONE MIND AND PURPOSE. -Philippians 2:1-2
Mike I love the message you brought out in this video truly a blessing!
I have a question tho on the topic of tattoos because i want to get a tattoo but I have brothers and sisters using this verse
Leviticus 19:28 (KJV) “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD”
So should I suck it up and just not do it because this verse is in scriptures?
Godbless you mike!!!
I've heard that verse used before and I'm under the impression that it's been taken out of context. He may have an answer to this on his website where you can look up questions and there are clips of videos with the specific answer.
However, if it's in the church you go to that it's bothering people, it might be best not to do it.
We are not under the law. We are under the new covenant that is the fulfillment of the first. Galatians 3:10-14 says that the law is a curse that Christ redeemed us from. James 2:8-13 says that if one is going to live by the law they have to keep *all* of it. If one breaks one part they have broken it all. The Mosaic law is not a buffet we pick and choose from. It's all or nothing. When someone tries to impose some part of it, I ask them why they don't have tzitzit on the four corners of their shirt, or any of the thousand other things they don't do commanded by the law. If they feel convicted not to do something, that's fine for them and I won't condemn them for it. But to put their own conviction on others is anti-biblical and making a stumbling block for others.
Mike has a whole video on tattoos! 😊
I don't think I'd get one because of the toxins in the inks. Also, I tend to like change, so I'm sure I'd want to change them after a while! Lol.
It's very important to understand that this does not apply to EVERYTHING, but everything that is done TO THE LORD - done in faith, those things are what we're suppose to accept when we have our differences in application. I highly doubt this apply to smoking, drugs, tattoos and such, as it affects our bodies which is the temple of the Holy Spirit which were bought at a price for God's glory. Thank you brother Mike for this wonderful message, to God be the glory!
But how do believers break bread in fellowship if they have dietary differences that conflict? For example, the diabetic at a birthday party with all kinds of sweets or celebrating holidays where all kinds of sweets are shared?
This is true. Nobody "needs" to agree on some things. We are all of us entitled to believe or think whatever it is that our minds can create. Or just about anything that our hearts can imagine up.
However,.... as for me, I prefer to acquire after true biblical wisdom. And (I) desire to search out the (*ways*) of understanding. Because I want to be correct in as many things as I possibly can be. Less I be wise in mine own conceit. And though I may consider myself to be a wise man,.... being void of understanding,.... I am become a fool.
Humility before God and man is the only way for a man to begin to learn new things, and to discover things that he in times past, never had the opportunity to consider.
Proverbs 1:5, supports this concept.
That is,.... that "Learning", (being *ABLE* be corrected, and reproved), is actually the first step towards gaining true wisdom.
And that seeking after wise counsel is better than chasing after a nice car. Or whatever.
Being able to be reproved is to be valued more than winning the lottery!!
I would rather be in the right, and be accurate about anything that I teach others,....... than to be hasteful in trying to kind of force my views about a matter into appearing to be the one and only way to look at things. And by trying to force mine own opinions to appear correct,... make make myself appear to be the BIGGEST fool alive!! (LOL)!!
Because if I research in the (way) of a man who is prideful, arrogant, and ignorant of ((ALL)) of the facts and aspects involved in a matter,....
Then,.... automatically,... I am bound to fail in getting the True and correct understanding!!!!😨
Because I searched with a prideful heart. And I did not desire, not had the care to learn the truth of the matter.
This is also another metaphorical way in which the saying; "Pride comes before destruction" can be applied.
Please make a lesson about Rock Music being used in Churches. Thank you
What should a christian do if he said that he would repent of something that he later realises was not sin. Should he keep his statement of repentance or can he move on when he realises that it is not sin and that he just had a weak conscience?
Commenting to get the reply on this . I need the answer to this too
No cuz he didn’t know at first but now he knows he don’t need to
Have you taught on the importance of holiness?
Hi! Thank you for this teaching. It really helps a lot.
I have one question about members of the Worship Team who plays outside the church: like in the bar. They use their talents as one of their source of income.
Ex: A student who's family is having a financial struggle. He's getting his allowance from playing outside the church.
What are your thoughts?
Hello Mike. I have been watching your videos for awhile and enjoy them very much. Thank you for your ministry. I feel that your teachings have really been on point. The only thing in this video that I have a question with is this : Do our convictions allow us to break God's commandments? Does our faith allow us to break God's commandments? I think that this mentality puts us on a slippery slope. There is no commandment about eating or drinking, tattoos etc. I think that the faith/freedom issue doesn't cover the ten commandments. Keeping the Sabbath isn't about a day of worship, keeping the Sabbath is about taking a day of rest. A day when we can appreciate the things that God has given us and for us to reflect on God's blessings and promises. A day that God commanded us not to forget. The only commandment where God specifically tells us that we should remember to keep it. What are your thoughts?
Jeffrey, Mike answered that in the video.
Our guide to what is sinful is not our own conscience, it is scripture.
On the one hand, the conscience cannot make sinful behavior good. Just because we don’t feel guilty about it doesn’t make it right.
On the other hand, our conscience doesn’t make clean things inherently unclean. It is just sinful for that person alone, not for all.
Do you think that Theistic Evolution/Creation discussion falls into the area of convictions about which the church ought not to be divided?
Absolutely.
Romans 14 5 and 6 is talking about food. Some fasted on certain days some for multiple days other didn’t. If you did fine if not ,ok let everyone be convinced in his heart eat or fast on a particular day. Was not talking about keeping the sabbath at all. This is a go to scripture for Sunday keepers to justify their stand on “it doesn’t matter what day be kept holy”.
Amen
@Juan ....Keeping the Sabbath was a big issue between the Jewish believers and the Gentiles (Greeks). Paul simply did not take sides because nobody is wrong to dedicate Saturday or Sunday (the Lord’s Day) as their day of worship. Stay with the context. Neither are condemned- love and support your brother. Food and day of worship is not a issue to God as long as it is dedicated to our Lord!
@@scottfearing4149
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Are you saying that Paul thinks the Sabbath and dietary instructions of God are doubtful disputations?
Be blessed
The teaching is clear, however carrying that out day to day by taking all thoughts captive to messiah, and actions as well, so to keep from offending others with our Christian Liberty and not being stumbling blocks to other believers or even unbelievers is a task in itself.
The only way I will be able to carry that out is by the strength and guidance of the Holy Spirit In My Life as a man, a sinful man, (who hears the voice of the flesh more often than not) I think I'm going to blow it most of the time.
God give us all strength to live a Godly humble loving Messiah centered existence.
Amen
Thanks for this Mike - good stuff here, explained very well. My only question is how does this relate to the Great Commission, and our imperative to reach people? Everything you talked about is within the context of Christian community, assuming there are no lost people. Can/should believers engage in amoral activity (getting a tattoo, having a drink, secular music in church, etc) if it helps reach the lost or done with evangelistic purposes? Maybe it's tied to a specific ministry outreach or something... How does one "balance" (if that's the right word?) reaching a lost person vs. not offending someone who is already a believer? I think there are genuinely some examples where offending a "weak" Christian might be the (unfortunate) result of trying to reach someone for Christ. Wouldn't someone getting saved trump offending someone who is already? My thought is that it would be better to potentially offend the Christian, based on Scriptural examples (Jesus at Matthew's house, Peter going to Cornelius' house, Paul's own life and explanation of becoming all things to all people in 1 Cor. 9). What are your thoughts on this?
Shaheen, none of the activities you list as amoral are amoral. There is nothing inherently sinful in any of those. If a person's faith is weak (as Paul says in Romans) then they should abstain because their own conscience makes it a sin for them, but not for those of strong faith.
Scripture only prohibits using them to sin, such as getting drunk. We should never sin to reach a sinner. However, refusing to enter the sinner's life at all makes it very difficult to witness. If a person is weak, they shouldn't go into situations they can't handle. But if they are strong, then they can meet people where they are. When I was single I would go to clubs and get a pitcher of Coke. I am fine with drinking for me. But I wanted to be available as a designated driver. And I showed that I could have just as much fun sober. Eventually, it led to some conversations.
Not all are called to plant seeds. Some water, and some harvest. We don't all have the same talents either.
Mike, What about haze/fog in the church?
Hi Mike! I like this, ive had an issue. My regular church has a young 22 year old women act as lead pastor for a day. And i was strongly convicted. I ended up leaving, but i was also volunteering here and enjoying it. So where do we find balance serving a church that goes against our convictions vs leaving and finding a new church where the same thing could happen?
Hi Mike. Very useful video. A question, though. Most of the examples you gave concern actions of the 'strong' that one could either do or not, i.e. eat meat or not. However, what if (hypothetical example) someone had tattoos on their face (perhaps since before coming to faith, and still considered it OK) or some such example where they are unable to alter their practice, perhaps due to medical or social reasons. (To be honest, having a tattoo is the only one I can come up with.) My question really is: in a situation like this, how does one not encourage a 'weak' person to fall? (I think I made that clear :) )Matt
Gambling is addictive. And once you find out you are susceptible to that addiction, it is already very hard to quit.
Those are other reasons gambling is sinful but mainly because our faith and trust is in Jesus for provisions not in casinos or lottery tickets etc.
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"Yes, the LORD will give what is good; And our land will yield its increase."
Do you have transcripts for your teachings?
I don’t have transcripts but for many of them I have the notes I used while teaching. I am willing to share them if you like. If you send me a message on my official Facebook page I can send notes through there. Http://Facebook.com/mikewingerbiblethinker
This is a very good teaching. One of the first things you said is that these are things about opinions not Doctrine of God Almighty. So where you lost me is about observing the Sabbath, Holy Feasts and not sure if you mentioned clean and unclean meat. These are not opinion. These are Commandments from above. He said they were forever! Messiah agreed in Matthew 5:19-21. Messiah was a Torah observant Rabbi obey the father's Commandments. We are to FOLLOW HIM. So what is sin? It seemed a little unclear in this message but the scripture is clear.
1 John 3:4. Sin is transgression of God's Holy Law which is holy pure and good. Our studies get into the issue Paul was talking about. It was the conscience as you said whether or not to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Which was clean meat that God instituted in the beginning of time what was and was not food. Leviticus 11. Also the specific days they were talking about we're not Sabbath as you said but they were talking about HOLY FASTING. There is no Torah commandment it says you have to fast on a certain day that is an individual decision. But some were saying you had to fast Monday Wednesday Friday for instance. It was not a commandment of the father though. THIS type of me and made Doctrine known as the oral law is what Jesus fought about. He never fought about his father's HOLY TORAH that He FOLLOWED as an orthodox Jew and taught it to his followers. Other than that it was a very good teaching
Mike, my son believes…actually believes …that it is wrong to pet chickens and wrong to pick up corn husks from the neighbors field. He references this video and your teaching saying that he feels fearful that he is in sin because of his desire to pet the chickens. I understand that you are giving a general teaching application for the majority of believers. I’m having trouble getting my son to rest in Christ and his Grace. 40:47
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