I finally learned how to use cavalry!
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2023
- In this battle, I was able to combine a delaying action to buy time and take control of a major choke point, then go on a wide flanking attack with my cavalry to wipe out the enemy archers! The enemy outnumbered us and had a quality of troop advantage, but superior tactics was able to win the day. Mount and Blade 2 Bannerlord is an amazing proving ground to show that real life tactics can and do work! This tactic was used by many throughout history to great effect including famous generals like Atilla the Hun.
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*david attenborough voice*: And here you can admire the beautiful sight of melee infantry migration to the beach where unlike the galapagos tortoise who would lay their egg, they will instead lay the heads of their defeated ennemies. Truly a marvelous sight to behold.
Haha I actually laughed out loud a bit at this one
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I pretty much despise any other narrator for Animal Documentaries now... think an AI Attenborough is the only way
Her: I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole.
Strat: Could I interest you in a 15 foot spear?
lol!
I like to fight my enemies from across the field, I require a 300ft pole Warhammer
I didn't expect the gates of hell to be so snowy. 🛡
❌ Hot Gates
✔️ Cold Gates
norse hell probably
According to dante the deepest layer of hell is very cold. Its so cold that the blood of the ppl there freezes inside their body
@@satanwithinternet2753 "According to Dante" yeah sure, Lucifer with wifi
@@mortache i think he mean Dante Alighieri?? not dante from dmc, the wacky woohoo pizza man
The cool thing is, there are a few maps that do have decent choke points, but this one is perhaps the best of them all.
Those chokepoints are where heroes are made
I think the bridges at epitoc… (what ever that city name is) is super good to (better?). There’s like 5 bridges there. All good chokes… won many battles 1v4 with the use of a party consisting of mostly fians, and then some infantry and cav to help clog the bridge though.
The coastal cliff chokes are good but doesn’t offer all that great of angels for archers. You really got to have better skilled fighting infantry(shock troops) to hold off mass enemy infantry in those chokes.
In this video, the ratio is pretty even
One more tactic lesson. Always a great video. Thanks Strat.
Thanks for watching!
Love the videos strat! Everytime I stop playing BL I see your vids and it makes me wanna play it again, THANK YOU for your content I’ve been watching you for quite a bit
Thanks for watching! Haha I know that feeling - it's hard to stay away from Bannerlord for long :)
I use the follow me command a lot when navigating the cavalry. You can have them follow you and run back and forth through their archer line and then charge aswell. But directly after the charge I have them follow me again to group them up for another charge
Yes, unfortunately melee cav needs a lot of babysitting to be useful. Follow and move command are the only thing preventing them from getting stuck inside enemy formations and being slaughtered by peasants and recruits.
There should be different commands for "charge and engage" (like infantry AI), "charge through" (like cav AI) and "charge through and regroup" (like real life heavy cav).
100%
@@iamdanieloliveira game I used to play kingdon under fire you could shift-queue commands and with cavalry you could attack-move to a point after the archer group and then shift-queue the same command to a point on the other side so the cavalry ends up moving either side and charging through the group like they should.
@@iamdanieloliveiraI never even use melee cav because of the upgrade costs and it lightens my command load to just archers and infantry, which don’t need too much babysitting to function, while I harass the approaching Calvary with a couple of horse archers, who’s AI actually works sometimes so they don’t die instantly
Do you think BL will ever implement crafting bows and armor one day? Talk about a wonderful game! The time sink vs. the cost of the game is terrific!
Bows maybe but i highly doubt for armor, weapons are set up for crafting, even standard weapons in markets are just crafting pieces put together. I can't see how can they implement a similar system for armor. Maybe they divide it how it is used for modifiers in game files ( plate, chain, leather, clothing etc)
Probably not. There’s so much that still needs to be fixed before I’d start implementing new things. I love this game, but there are a few things that can be so annoying.
There's a really great mod for that. Bows, shields, armor, projectiles... even horse armor
I really wish armor crafting be a thing. I personally much more would prefer to be armorsmith than weaponsmith.
@Kolby Williams 8 bandit groups for quest and not a bandit to be found lol. And when u do find one it's got a 6.1 speed hehe
Your channel has become one of my favorites I've come across in years. How you play BL really shows how much replay value this game has. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! I'm glad to hear that :)
I just love how you start such a video now! The title tells everything you need to know, there is no intro, no "hello boyz", just straight to the point. God I wish more creators would do the same! And, as always, -thanks for watching- excellent vid!
Lol I know what you mean :) When I do have an intro, I try to keep it to 5 - 10s at most
I had no idea there were spots with choke points THIS tight. Thanks Strat!
Yeah this is one of the better ones!
I love these battle videos. I learn so much from your tactics
Glad they are helpful!
Just recently started watching you and I love every vid i’ve seen! thank you
I'm glad you're enjoying my videos! I've got a lot more coming soon :)
Little trick I've found (might not still work, been awhile since I've played I know they've changed some AI), have 2-3 companions with long slashing polearms following you, glaives work well and rhompaia, and then run through the horse archers slashing away. Doesn't really matter how much you hit, if there are 3 of you attacking their horses in melee, they will almost always try to skirmish away. You can keep 50+ horse archers from your front line for a solid 30 seconds or so with just a charge with a few companions. Gotta make sure they are well armored, of course. It works really well to push them from one flank or another back towards their own wings while you chop horses out from under them.
I'll have to try this out sometime!
I don't know why I've never been recommended of you before but God damn im glad it did
Great content and made me want to get bannerlord
The algorithm is an odd thing lol I still have no clue how it works! Glad you're enjoying my videos :)
I LOVE your battle videos! Please upload more
Thank you! I'm working on the Battle of Cannae right now :)
Congrats on all the recent subs!
Thank you! It's been pretty crazy for 2 - 3 weeks now
This reminds me of the Battle of Agincourt with the obvious small element of Thermopylae. Nicely done.
What I like to do is to give the cav shield wall command, so they form up tighter and then have them follow me as I ride through their archer line from their flank.
We usually take out a quarter to a third of them with each pass. The trample damage alone adds up with the third pass and it completely disrupts their shooting, which is a great relief for the Infantry.
I have well protected heavy knights on good horses with me though, so this might not work so well with bandit troops.
wow the features that treat each troop as a companion and can level them up is cool
It's a really fun way to play too!
I'm loving the tactics videos, especially clipped from the live battles. Are these all with RBM?
Anytime you see the green posture bar in the bottom right, that is RBM
Yup! I've got the full mod list (in proper order + links) in the description of this video in case you were interested: czcams.com/video/W94-_JU4_l0/video.html&ab_channel=StratGaming
Don't get cocky, I won't be so easily convinced till you make this a mule and cav only campaign! (Been loving the series)
Lol the dreaded mule charge!
@Strat Gaming the slower the charge the more time they have to contemplate their demise!
Days with a new strat video are my favorite days.
Always satisfying catching them in a choke point like that
Yeah!! This was sick battle. On of my favorite ever in Bannelord… the pure strategy!!
Oh yes, the warband-old tactic of dehorsing horsemen to make them useless, a walking khergit is a dead khergit.
Welcome to the Academy of Great Commanders, your tutor Strat Gaming!
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I tell my calvary to follow me. After I set orders for the rest of my army, my calvary follows me to the enemy flank or archers. Then I move in and give them the charge command. Once they collide and rout the enemy, I tell them to follow again and they peel off the enemy. It's devastating.
Nice disco on the "The Hot Gates" - I try to drag overwhelming enemy armies to this location found near seas for battles fully knowing I can send them through the grinder. You can usually defeat an army 3X your size in this arena. I somethimes ave split my cav into 2 formations, a 1/3 and 2/3 keep infantry in sheid wall and stack the 1/3 into that as well for high hits. I have run into the enemy lining the cliff wall with archers though and that presents an issue.
Love the video ❤
Bannerlord CZcamsr: gets the scene from 300 as a level.
Me: empty fields or fields with trees.
Great video, Strat! Lol, "Nice block" at 3:28. I find myself saying that to the enemy all the time. Gotta give the AI/devs their credit!
Tfw you're in the final round of a tournament, against a noble. Hack n slash quickly turns into a chamber block battle...ending in a single head strike, ending the tournament. Win or lose, it's fuckin amazing gameplay.
Lol it's just not that common to see the AI perform well so when it happens, it stands out :)
Try this. Give cavalry the follow order, and charge through enemy line flank to flank. Work surprisingly good
@Strat Gaming would you ever consider adding some commentary in the beginning of these kinda episodes to know what to look for?! I love your vids, but I'm still new to the game and I get lost in the chaos of what you are doing. It would be nice to know what you are trying to get me to look at. Thanks a million for your content, you've kept me playing for hours!
Yeah I can do that from now on!
Damn, that's a disgusting choke-point.
I finally started modding and made custom mounted troops with Rhomphaia and 3 sets of javelins. Stats are jacked but the Scaled Warlord Armor is really weak so it maintains Battanian "glass canon" vibes.
Wanted to give them longbows, but didn't see any way to make mounted troops use longbows (requires a perk)
Wow that does sound like a nasty unit to go up against! As long as they aren't the first ones in, they should wreck the enemy
Couldn’t you do it early firearms style? Ride over to position and demount, shoot your shots, remount and reposition.
Wouldn’t work very well against harassing cavalry though and you’d probably end up with a lot of your guy’s horses running off without them
@@snaile2876 I think the correct term for what you describe is hobbies/hobelars, but I just wanted a Khan's Guard equivalent. Honestly though mounted archers are just too OP, at least now they have to get closer to throw the javelins and eat up damage through the mediocre armor. I COULD give them noble bows and Cataphract armor, but that would just make them space marines lol
I use that spot quite alot on that map - 300 style
Always used cavalry as a mean to slow and disperse enemies. So my shield wall+crossbow combo could deal with more like a stream, a torrent of enemies rather than a wave.
There's a mod (Magic Holsters) that removes the image of the spear on your back and all npcs too, you can still use it, it will spawn when you switch weapons. It would make it easier to see and aim, and also doesn't look odd. I just imagine I have a squire handing me my spear when I need it.
Ooh that's a really good idea! It's pretty annoying have it exactly in the way when I'm trying to aim haha
Hey i was complaining these last few days of how I couldn't install mods and all, don't know if you'll remember, even answered a few. I figured it out. I thought it was some compatibility issues but the game worked flawlessly once i started the launcher as an administrator. Such a simple solution.
Oh wow, interesting! Thanks for letting me know, I'll suggest that to others when they have issues
3:00 i found this spot, and it is just unreasonably OP. i put sheildy bois up in front (but not too high) in a shield wall to plug the hole, and my crossbow bois behind just DROP BODIES. could even flank your ponies around the side behind them (i just use them as cleanup crew though for people who get through) i'd accept a 3 to 1 situation if i knew i'd be on this map
Hi Nice movie as always. However, I would like to ask You, what difficulty level did you play this battle on ? I ask because the reaction of the enemy shooters was rather limited in this battle. From my humble experience, I know that the intelligence of the computer opponent in Bannerlord is quite limited, but the accuracy of archers and crossbowmen as well as their reaction at the highest difficulty level is almost perfect. Regards
the ai love to do this thing where the archers will always move away from the infantry while the infantry is set on charging through everything i always have my cav chasing those archers with me cause of that lol
Top vid love this
This was a nice battle. I can recomand others to go and watch this capaign 😉
It wasn't the most difficult, but it's pretty fun seeing real life tactics used in a game!
Hello Strat! I was wondering if you maybe know any mod that lets player rename settlements (or maybe you guys)? Great video as always!
I've pretty sure I've seen that done, just not sure of a specific mod that does it.
remind me of the Comanches 15 ft spear and bow combo
I remember fighting on this map, as I was organising myself I was astonished to see that the AI enemy actually took the choke point and held there and didn’t move despite any of my provocations.
So I just had to attack them. I don’t know whether that was the initiative of the AI itself, or a developer coded that if given the chance they’d take the choke point, either way it was amazing.
Cav gets tunnel visioned into a melee fight if you leave them alone it's so annoying but if you constantly tell them to hit and run using 'advance' and 'follow me' you can take on an army 3 times your size at least.
A great start I've found is to let the infantry chase you to the point where their ranks start to break due to different movement speeds, that way you can catch out the stragglers who are out of formation.The archers are also often not ready to fight back while charging so you can run through them with horse charge damage for free.
Can you do a video on Alexander the Great tactics that would be awesome. Or maybe a Alexander play through with the companion Calvary ❤ that would be awesome to watch
I recently made a video covering the False Gap tactic that Alexander the Great used! czcams.com/video/HhjUfxFBlK0/video.html&ab_channel=StratGaming I'm currently looking for a mod list for the next campaign, will definitely keep this in mind :)
"Murder pit" LOL! The technical term is called a "Kill Pocket" The choke point saved your bacon here. It allowed you to set up an effective kill pocket without getting flanked.
This game looks pretty amazing. I've never seen it before. It looks like a more advanced version of Medieval Total War.
Sweet, thank you! Yeah it's a lot of fun, especially once you start adding mods to make it more realistic :) The biggest difference between this and TW is that each unit is individually controlled by AI. So each unit has it's own physics, will react differently to what's going on, etc. In TW, groups are 200+ units, but as far as the game goes, it's just one "thing".
That spear is hilariously long
I have this one strat where I use the archers in the back and Sword troops infront of them as a shield with Lots of horse archers and lots of cavalry. Use barely lose any troops and it can take on armies with 200 more troops than you
nice video, and how did you get a 50 arrows sack?
I've learned to divide my cavalry and infantry. Infantry shield wall to 1) stop enemy cavalry and 2) protect archers. Right before their Cavalry crashes into my line I loose mine from the flank. The goal is to slow their momentum and create a safe zone behind the Infantry for the archers to whittle down horses. This technique shatters Infantry heavy (enemy) formations too
P.s. Imperial troops all the way!
Hey strat what mod do you use to make your character hold the arrows in his hand ? It looks super cool !
That's RBM! Once you hit a certain skill level (I think it's 75 or 100?) you grab 3 from the quiver and can shoot rapidly for those 3.
Ain’t no wy the most tactically genius man on earth didn’t know how to use cavalry… what does that mean for me?
I have a lot to learn when it comes to using cavalry effectively : (
Ty
What bow do you use?
I love your videos
I always lead cavalry / horse archers around the back or flanks of the enemy, hit charge, and everything dies
I've only watched two of your videos but I noticed you place your archers on your enemies left side which is obviously silly since all units hold their shield on their left as far as I know. You can massively improve your efficiency by repositioning. Also if you want to mess with archers run your cavalry in a narrow formation along their line not through it.
Would there be any way you'd occasionally go over all of the perks that were broken in each tree again and see if they're still broken? I can't tell if quickdraw under throwing works now, for instance.
best way to kill archers is to stomp them with cav, have them follow u and go up and down their lines, they will be mowed down like grass after a third pass
1:41 how to use the south western map choke points
Something I keep seeing in your videos are archer/horse archer formations to the right. A lot of your arrows are probably being passively blocked by enemy shields.
Ever tried shooting a bow towards your right side?
Yup, doesn't work that way.
Maybe riding all the way to the enemy's rear....
@@AFKSINCE4EVER You can rotate the formation to face whatever way you want, and horse archers especially will do that on their own when they're stationary.
I was thinking this as well… the archers are better off on the left
Horse archers are better on the right because they can’t shoot on their right very well. Archers on foot go on the left, horse archers on the right to flank and shoot on the move. That’s my set up and my horse archers get 50+ kills per skirmish.
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Archers on foot are better on the left. Horse archers are better on the right because they can’t shoot on their right side. If Strat had to roll them out to flank, they would have been useless on the left side. Horse archers shoot right to left very well, they can’t shoot left to right well at all, though.
Also, those battles where you chase down enemy cavalry because their infantry buckled like cardboard... made real easy with a Glaive
Great video! What mods are you using here?
Thanks! I've got the full mod list (in proper order + links) in the description of this video: czcams.com/video/W94-_JU4_l0/video.html&ab_channel=StratGaming
Idk why, but i think the moment i learn how to use cav is the moment where bannerlord or fanbase create realistic musket and boom, welcome to modern times!
I will only imagine that I helped in this revelation. Not that this wasn’t something that you couldn’t have simply figured out on your own. But I do remember you liking my comment on a previous video where I mentioned this😎
Yeah I do read most all the comments and take notes :)
Try Khalid bin Walid's tactic, it's amazing against infantry and can even grant you a 3 to 1.
That Lance it's so long.
Nice lance, bro
Thank you! I got it from a dead Vlandian if I recall lol
@@Strat-Guides surely a custom job.
That's a long ass Lance lol
Stole it from a dead Vlandian Noble :)
Oh, boy, this lance. I want some shish kebab now.
Lol yeah with that mod list, they go up to 350+
how did you get your spear? cuz i never seen one so long and imma need it lmao
“Room Temperature Challenge”
Strat is an Active Self Protection viewer?? 👀👀
Yes! Haha I've been watching that dude since he was at like 100k subs :)
What would be your thought process if you were to play with "throwers" in your army ? What strategical opportunity do they offer ?
Not sure if I understand the question correctly, but throwers as in Javelin or throwing axe troops I assume? They do a ton of damage in a short amount of time. Often times they won't do much damage, but they will remove a lot of shields, making the enemy much more vulnerable.
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I'm doing a custom troop run using RBM is there a certain armor wt threshold to not overcome like a Dark Souls Fat roll threshold and also RBM as u know has a mechanic for shields to hang on your non dominant arm so for my archers should I let them carry a backup melee weapon to stop themselves from getting fucked by melee troops or let them carry a pavise shield to hang on their non dominant arm so they dont get counter sniped as easily
Great question and I'm not really sure! I've got a ton of hours on RBM but feel like there is still so much to learn
I know how to defend but the problem is that my offensive is always trash
What im glad about is how I don't have to win every tournament now that update was really a game changer on xbox now day 39
Or so already up to 60k think by 150k ill start to take land.
I would call it the great migration battle 😂
Which mod gives you the unit icons (ie. infantry, horses, etc.)?
Do you run full vanilla? Or what mods do you use?
nice strat but wrong flank for the archers, you're shooting their shielded arm
I'm wondering if you would do strategy in bannerlord?
Yup!
What % of your army should consist of calvary in this game? I tried being cav dominant when I first started, but i feel like I'm just better off going only infantry / archers / horse archers
Not very much typically, unless you specifically want to play with a lot of cavalry.
Individual results may vary, but I like to go something like this
50% Infantry
30% Archer
20% Mixed Cav and Archer Cav
It also depends alot on the type of tactics you use, different plays are better with different armies. Another strong general build is to go really archer heavy, with another big chunk of infantry, and a very small cavalry force. For something like that, you’re relying on your archers to deal out the death and your infantry is really only there to stop the enemy from getting to your archers, and you use your small cavalry force to lead the enemy’s cavalry away from your main force, and harass the enemy’s archer line to stop them from firing
@@snaile2876 I enjoy playing Battania alot so I usually am Fian dominant. Their infantry is so mediocre though, I like to recruit sturgians & legionaries.
Horse Archers are op but they don't really flow w my army unless it's like 60% horse archers lol. I think I've been around 30-40% Cav, so I'm going to adjust now, ty!
I think you can make it work with pretty much any army composition, but personally I tend to go heavy foot troops with maybe 10 - 20% mounted at most.
HOw do you feel about Khuzait Khan's Guard spam? I like to get a party of around 300 of them then press f6 in a battle and call it a day.
It's very effective, but get's boring real fast :(
Hey Strat! This battle was sick, love learning from more experienced players on how to play the RTS side of bannerlord :)
Btw quick question, what mods are you using in this play through?
I'd love to know the mods list as well.
You can check it out in the challenge video from 2 weeks ago, the combat was taken from his challenge playthrough on his other channel(Strat Plays).
Thanks for watching! Glad it's helpful :) I've got the full mod list on the description of this video: czcams.com/video/W94-_JU4_l0/video.html&ab_channel=StratGaming
Strategic fighting in this game is mostly just relying on the game's dumb AI. But this is pretty cool, I didn't know this map had that chokepoint. Gotta use it next time.
Yeah I know what you mean. This map in particular is funny - if can get the enemy cav to charge you, you can move at the last second near the cliffs and they will go charging off the cliff to their death rofl I did it in this video: czcams.com/video/cBq9S-5mexg/video.html&ab_channel=StratGaming
After so long in Early access I would have liked to have seen the game come on a bit more - the basis is there for a legendary game, instead of the pretty good one it is at the moment.
I don't want to have to rely on Mods to make it decent.
If they actually release DLC map expansions, new factions, boats, more varied and interesting missions and adopted some of the mods into the game it would epic.
Hey Strat, is there a reason you use basically zero archers outside of horse archers?
It was for the campaign - those are all bandit/companion only and the main character is Amir Timur, who was known for having hordes of horse archers. It's more for the roleplay and not for a strategic reason. Good observation by the way! It's much harder to win battles without a good set of foot archers
@@Strat-Guides Oh that makes a lot of sense, what a cool way to play the game too haha. I was going to say, I feel like my Fians are my most productive units, so was curious if there was a secret sauce I was missing! Appreciate the response, keep up the awesome content!
Should see the broken stuff you can do with high charge damage. Just nudging an enemy does like 50 damage, so you just ride along side of a troop line and do thousands of damage without even using a weapon.
It’s a shame you can’t build in battle. I would’ve asked if you could do the tactics used in Alesia
That would be really cool! Imagine a ballista on a small hill??
I feel used....
Lol is it because I recycled the TN? I spent time cutting it out and blurring the background at least :P Also, I've been working really hard on my first non-gaming video, which is set to release tomorrow morning! I'm really hoping it does well because I have more topics I want to cover, but only if people are interested in watching
I’m sure you didn’t intend for this title to be clickbait, but I didn’t see anything in this video demonstrating how to properly use cav. Good battle with good tactics though.
I should have explained it better in the video, my mistake. I used the cav to delay the enemy, allowing the shield wall to get to the beach where the gap was. Then I used the cav to plug the holes in the line where enemy cav were breaching. Finally I used them to flank the huge line or foot archers they had in the back, which would have probably killed at least 25% of my foot troops before they even reached their line. I would say it was an effective use of cavalry compared to what I usually do (which is have them sit idle or feed them lol)
I appreciate your explanation. “Clickbait” was probably not the best choice of words. But you’ve made a couple great videos recently detailing your use of different infantry tactics and I thought we finally had one like those for shock cav.
OH YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE HAHAHAHHAHHHAHHAHA
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Yo Strat I know this is super random but have you ever encountered a bug that says: “object reference not set to instance of an object”?
I’ve been trying to mod my Bannerlord recently and even after downloading patches from the Nexus, it still corrupts my save games after a certain time.
No I haven't seen that one before. Oh wow, it's ruining your save files?! That's brutal
@@Strat-Guides Yeah it’s been really aggravating. I’m pretty sure it’s related to Distinguished Service or Banner Kings. All it does is cause an endless loop of the game freezing and having a crash exception, but it happens ALL THE TIME, nonstop, endlessly.
@@dharmeshmistry342 I ran into that with my previous campaign using banner kings. I wasn't able to go near certain parts of the map or it would crash with no way around it
was that a bug, cheat or mod to level up the companions so much and so fast?
What mod did you use to speed up in-game battles like that?
It's the RTS Camera mod! There's a function in that mod that slows down time, but I change the speed the other way so I can speed the game up for those boring, grindy parts.
@@Strat-Guides ah ok, was confused cause I knew there was a slow mo key but didn't notice a speed up one. Did you just go into the mod files and change the speed then?
Why I feel bad for killing horses more than Killing people?
It's true. I hate the sound they make when they get killed too, it makes me sad