New mini bike riding, Mega Moto 212 pro versus Mega Moto Max 212cc
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2019
- I was out riding my new mini bike with my brother, comparing the Mega Moto 212 Pro versus the Mega Moto 212 Max and the Coleman BT200X.
Most of the riding footage I scraped, but I did get a good comparison feel overall. The top speed of the Mega Moto 212cc Pro mini bike was 31 mph, after pulling back the throttle stop screw, even with the torque converter for performance.
This is the mini bike formerly known as the "monster moto 212cc". It has front and read disc brakes, similar to a dirt bike or full out motorcycle. Nice comfortable seat, and with the torque converter some pretty nice performance.
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Just finished a diy kit literally an hour ago, finally got the throttle running great and everything is torqued & ready to rip!
I recommend putting a kevlar belt on it and put a different clutch bushing on it ,mine goes 57MPH
I love mini bikes, scooters, motorcycles, ect ect!!!
Good video! Great info to help my buying process.
I recently purchased both of these bikes and the max is definitely faster, these are both awesome bikes my 8 year old has the 80cc and we have a brand new 105cc for his 11 year old brother to break in next weekend.
I have both and I enjoy them..no problems..they both run well..my top speed is about 28mph. My Max gets out of the hole fast. The pro is more linear. I’m 5’6” 140 lbs.
Mine goes 46 mph. Take the brass busing off and buy a go power sports belt for it
Mine goes 64
Great video
31mph is pretty damn good with the limiter in. My ct200u would only do 26 before the governror kicked in. For sure getting one of the mega moto bikes for this year. Missed my coleman since I sold it...
I really need one of these mini bikes
All depends on the set up on the motor how fast you can actually go with how the governor is set , then work your way down to the CVT clutch changing springs, and also on the secondary clutch drive, then on to sprockets.
The cams in those engines are basically designed to work in the 2500-3500rpm range, to work on a bike, the governor needs to be ditched, and at least a cam and springs, and a billet rod, maybe a flywheel, a bit of money, but at least you would be happy, and back in the day, I got my briggs to haul, by adjusting the mixture screw at full throttle, unscrew it about 8 turns,. I could feel it making more power, it was way rich at idle so maybe try that, I just screwed it in a turn or so until it was manageable, still rich, rough idle, a little smoke, but managing to get a higher idle speed would somewhat fix that, maybe drill a very tiny hole in the throttle blade, to stop it from pulling from the idle circuit, leaning it out slightly, I mean a hole the size of a hole in a jet then the screw can be unscrewed for top end power, still idling nicely, but an aftermarket motorcycle carb would be much easier to tune, with the slow jet, main jet, and the needle adjustment, plus the Venturi could be larger, allowing more air and fuel, making even more power! I have heard these engine are making 15-20+HP with mods like this, spinning to 5600rpm or in the range, ppl are spinning these to 8k, 9k+,
But how fast would you want to go on a tiny set of tires!! Mine gets spooky around 50, 60 mph, and definitely got to be going straight, 30 is too fast in a curve it's nothing like a motorcycle!!
The 9,000+ rpm engines I make similar to the one in the video I have up can push these bikes pretty fast.
Clutch vs a torque converter on a stock bike? :P
Makes perfect sense, one isn't actually faster it just accelerates faster because it doesn't have to overcome the driven pulley that it doesn't have enough ass to do stock.
My opinion is all, you have done way more experiments than I have.
I am getting one of does on my birthday this year
Does are my fovorite dirt bikes
I am getting a mega max 212cc dirt bike too soon my mamma is getting it for me I think she’s getting it on my birthday
I got an mn200 with a Kohler rh265 on it. Basically a regular Honda clone with almost 12ft/lbs out of the box. I have line av stage 1 plus on it and a torque converter with a 60t on it now and it'll rip wheelies at speed and do 45mph plus. Had a 54t before and it cold probably hit 55-60 but it took a while to get my 200lb ass there.
Adjust the governor for more speed. Both bikes should top out at about 45 mph.
Mega Moto pro, how long is the steering tub?
Hi MGF!! What's your go to tire for the 212 pro?
Stock. I primarily ride that mini at 45mph on farm roads. The pattern is the best support for the speeds I ride at on that type of surface.
I'd be interested to learn if some Pro parts could swap over to the RB200. Some of those Pro parts are still available. Front forks (or maybe just the left, to gain the caliper mount), front wheel, basically that front brake setup. Any interest there?
I have the two sitting right next to each other and just looked them over to double check... swap the forks and the front hub, and get you a front brake!
you a good CZcamsr keep up the good work
MegaMoto Pro's beefer Frame costs a few pounds... More pounds = less speed !
Too bad they went out of business ! I just bought a GoPowerSports MegaMoto 212 Kit and I am just starting to put it together right now. I had a MM Pro 2 years ago....Sold it as my plans changed and I was going to buy another...but they Friggin Went out of Business ! I loved my MM Pro so I had to buy the kit !
Change out the wheel sprocket for one with a smaller diameter. You will lose a little torque, but overall top speed should improve.
Pro vs the Coleman, which would you recommend for a 6’ tall 215lb man for tearing around the neighborhood and in some light trails?
Im about your height and 250 lbs so id need something with some balls and a cushy seat!
Max, actually, but if you had the pro then the pro. It has some nice features.
I’m getting the max soon and the governor will be coming off as soon as I get it
i really enjoy the bike. compared to a coleman ct200u ex. its so smooth to ride. not a speed demon but its smooth. and the wide seat is awesome ! and the throttle let off sound kicks ass
dustbustr91 hi, may I ask where did you buy your bike from? And do I need a license or do I have to register? I am looking to buy one before the summer ends. Thank you in advance for the information. Take care, Kris
@@AOSD12345 should not need a license or to register unless you are trail riding in restricted parks. Then can check with dmv.
Now the kit for the Pro without an engine is 650 bucks and no title, I have an Coleman RT200 coming and the prices went WAY up! So is a Coleman RB200/RT200 the best of both worlds? MegaMoto 212 Pro frame equiped like a MAX, no CVT, just missing the front disc brake?
So, sort of, yes-ish, mostly. I would say the pro having front disc brakes is very nice but that's about the edge is has. The way you have to install a a CVT/torque converter on the RB is actually works out what I'd think is a lot nicer configuration to work on or even get help with. Many people complain about the jackshaft setup on the Pro when compared to a standard 30 series install. Also, Coleman switched to certificate of origin (I just got 2 more from Coleman) but easier to approach title work.
@@megoingfast Bink, I decided to grab an BT200x as well, so hopefully an RT200 and BT200x will keep me busy, The Certificate of Origin is a big sell point, also your pimp out on the BT200x and my checking one out in person pushed me to get one, addiction lol.
I’m getting a mega max 212cc dirt bike for my birthday
Torque converter is basically for hills and stuff
Shadilay brotoad
I'm a bigger guy, I'm 200lbs. Clutches don't do it for me. They burn up quick. Torque converter is the way to go
@@thisislargemouth5566 I'm 200lbs as well but just finished a diy kit. Once the clutch goes I'll swap to a torque converter
Hello, i have question about this model (212 PRO). Do you put any oil on the right side after removing the plug/cap that is on the cover. The plug/cap is located on the front right side right below the gas tank. I have no idea what its there for. i'm asking for my mother.. i am dying to know because she has been trying to figure this out for over 8 hours spanning several days. Help me please.
Some small engines have an engine kill switch mounted there. It's like on a car where there is a high end model with extra switches on the dashboard, but lower models don't have the feature so the manufacturer puts a plug or cover on. Same part used for different engines, saves cost. No oil in there, that's your flywheel and you don't want oil in the magnets and coils/electrics.
Web search "predator 212cc kill switch" for visual.
@@megoingfast thanks, will check that out.
They need to make one like the PRO with full suspension outa the box
Are these the same as the Coleman RB200?? The frame looks very similar
Nope and almost. I cover it a little in the RB200 video. Rims, tires, sort of frame of the pro and the RB are the same but the parts have differences and RB needs to have the jackshaft removed to match (beats) speed.
Is there enough room to put the torque converter on the max so you can save money instead of buying the pro?
Yes, but the motor mounting plate is not setup to have the engine slide for alignment. There would be a little work.
I have the pro and the clutch version. The pro only thing i did was back the throttle screw out all the way then back in just so slightly so it touches the screw still. Flat paved road, my 230lbs, top end is 44mph. That's bone stock. I haven't tried top end on my clutch version yet on the paved road. I am not sure why others need to touch the governor and CVT to reach those speeds. Mine does it VIA cell GPS speedo.
What’s the little bike cc?
Get the pro and upgrade your engine to a stage 1 tillotson 212 and torque converter. Mine pushes 50 about to be doing 65 with new sprocket in a couple days. Plenty of power to spare.
I was suppose too get one of these mini bikes for my birthday but my mom got me a Coleman instead and the. She bought me a predator 212cc 6.5 horsepower mini bike engine and I basically have a mega motor mini bike
Quick question how different is this bike to the rb200 from coleman
Everything is different in a little way. Weld quality, brake caliper, engine, clutch, etc. The RB200/RT200 has the same frame shape as the pro but you can tell it's not the same 100%. The RB only has the rear disc brake, 196cc engine versus 212cc engine on the mega motos. The RB has a clutch and jackshaft. The mm max has straight chain and the mm pro has a tore converter. The mm out of box is a lot faster, the Coleman having more throttle restriction to remove. The seat, tires, rims, front shocks on the pro are the same. Little parts have differences as well but most would never noticed them.
I am getting a mega max 212cc dirt bike too soon
I cant get my rear brakes right and gopowersports wont help me. There is a bracket missing. And nobody has another one for sale!
My little cousin has one of these and his is about like 30 or 40 but I think with the throttle stop screw being pulled out some it’s now about like 40 or 50
Pro = off road trail bike
Max = cruiser
And same exact horsepower too
put tie wrap through governor sprng and tighten. spring will be ridgd. 5 mph. stops governor from engaging.......
I am getting a mega moto dirt bike too
Nice video. What is the seat height on these things?
25 inches / 64 cm
The max is lighter so its going to be faster .The pro is built like a tank. I like the tank.plus the maxs has double discs breaks.you can always make them go faster with mods. Pro all the way.
You should try the TrailMaster MB200-2...
Torque converter, rear disc brakes, front headlight, 4 foot pegs, AND front and REAR suspension!!
Nothing else even comes close.
I see the bikes run well on the flat and rolling hills, but can they climb mountain trails ?
Yup. The bikes are no longer in full production in the united States. A similar one, the Coleman RB200 I have a few videos on, with a torque converter, great for hills!
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have two pros and my torque converters vibrate a lot, does yours?
On start just a little bit not after engaging fully. The was a problem at first where the throttle lever was getting caught on the air filter box. Once fixed things were smoother.
Hey man there is a speed limiter in the torque converter drive pulley, separate from the governor, you have to take that out.
Where is the speed limiter in the drive pulley and how do you take it out?
What if top speed isn't my priority? Which one climbs hills better?
The pro.
Any suggestions on where to order one?
Out of business as of very recent, sorry.
They have governors
this company is now out of business and sold their parts to gopowersports, I need a front brake caliper as mine broke in a wipeout but can't manage to find one.....anyone know of a decent replacement, I can do some fab work to make it fit if needed, it is not the same as the rear caliper
Thanks for the info... Kills about four videos I was working on, but such is life. I will see if I can dig up the part tomorrow. I was looking at it for conversions but after my heart surgery I've not been riding much.
Well, don't have more than I was looking at kymco front left disc brake and front ATV disc brake sets. ATV disc brake sets come in pairs and usually have the same alignment angles for the left side, just the holes don't always align on the plate. I pinned this comment in hopes others can help here. Good luck!
@@megoingfast thanks man, I sent gopowersports a message earlier today asking if they had the caliper since their megamoto site said something about "more parts to come", we'll see what they say
They contacted me and the front brake assembly is now available on Megamoto.co...but for 49 bucks....ouch, but I think that's the entire brake assembly.
i just bought a bunch of wear parts including the part you need from gopowersports
I have a few year old pro model that was rated 7 or 7.5 hp. It has a cylinder head with 28.5 intake valve, round intake and exhaust port vs d shaped and some other goodies going on for it. Great engine for a hot rod build. It is NOT a predator
My mamma said she might get it on my birthday this year but I think shes getting it on my birthday so yes I am getting a mega max 212cc dirt bike this year on my birthday
I think my mamma is getting it on my birthday
Both of those things can go a lot faster then that even the mega moto max pro
Torque Converters lower top speed, not increase it. They increase low end torque.
You can't buy any mini bikes in calif ,except for one a tractor supply. Dam it.
What he’s basically saying is is that the mega moto max has a lot more tourqe then the mega moto max pro even do it has the tourqe converter but with a the mega moto max having a lot of tourqe that’s what cause’s it too have a lot of horsepower and speed when you ride it and it’s even better when you turned them up
But I also remember him saying something about the gear being turned up so yeagh
I have to of the same bikes but my Dad modified them and made them go faster there pretty sweet bikes but a little slow not gonna lie! 😂
Was going to keep them stock for more videos, but since they're hard to get now they'll be getting quite a performance boost soon and used for mods videos!
I took the spacer off my pro and it goes 46mph+
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Take the governor out and get a smaller sprocket. it would do 40mph easily
Just out of curiosity did you remove the torque converter governor?
What’s the torque converter governor? How do you take it out?
It's a aluminum sleeve behind the front drive pulley, slide it off. Leave the brass one in place
Please make a video on how to remove the governer on the 212cc pro I'm sure those want it also getting one soon from Walmart best deal !!!!
Might in the future, but got about seven others in my plate people are asking for still, plus have a few more I've filled for need to edit yet. Removing governor is about the same between this engine and predator or hisun.
me no problem man take your time, love the videos keep it up man!
@@link6508 its super easy.
All you have to do is take the cvt cover off, then take the bolt holding it to the shaft, pull the first part off the cvt off and where the belt sits there will be two spacers, one is copper (smaller) and a larger silver spacer, take off the silver spacer and you're good.
I didn't use a video I could make one and put it on CZcams I make an account.
@@nathansair279 that would be awesome if you did I tried it last time on another bike and had messed up I had the regular version motto
@@link6508 ok,
I will make one and get a link from CZcams.
I will try to get it done this week.
Because it’s the same exact series as predator engine !!
So there’s some in accurate information on this video about these bikes. The pro with the CVT out of the box has a top speed of 33 according to Mega Moto And the max has a top speed of 29. The top speed with the CVT will always be much higher than just using a centrifugal clutch. I have the pro that I have customized And I have mini ape hangers And I have the governor completely removed and I have a stage one kit on it and it will go 50 mph. If you were to get the max and remove the governor and put a stage one because of the gearing it would not even go more than 40.
I was a bit surprised and disappointing myself. My brother and I are both 6 ft, 170lbs. Kept racing and riding, switching bikes back and forth and each time, Max was clear winner down the line on top speed. Used Cool Niks speedometer with GPS for Android and I'm as shocked as the next person. You can re-gear the Max easily enough that if you have 9hp out of it you could likely do 50. Would need the torque up from gov pull though.
Straight chain is always faster then a torque converter
You should definitely turn the governor up on the mega moto max you should atleast get about 60 or even 70 matter a fact even 80 mph just by using and turning up the governor on the mega moto max but that’s also what a lot of people don’t really or hardly understand because it’s right there the speed hacks right there
You're not going to hit 60, 70, or especially 80 on one of these bikes by doing anything to the governor.
I love how the company goes out of business when people are actually needing mini bikes or the oarts
I had a few more videos lined up of why I was going to recommend these models. Only one issue out of the two bikes and very comfortable. Of my minis, people enjoy the Max the most.
Exspecially the mega moto max
torque convectors are more for off road and gives you more torque with less top speed and a centrifugal clutch is not to good on off road and has more top speed
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Unfortunately they're illegal to ride outside of your own property in my country.
i have the max . remember these have governors in them. greatly limiting speed!!!!!
If you need new parts for it, you can get them at www.MegaMoto.Parts
That bike can go on beach sand.?
yup
Do you think the 420cc predator would fit the mega Moto max or the pro?
That is what I want to know. Or the 301cc
@@raywitte7354 i have 2 brand new 420 predators and been looking at them. What I the dimensions of the frame mate? I'll measure the engine and let's see if it fits!!
Now I know for a fact that that max can go like 70 mph
So what’s faster the max or the pro
The max is faster
Who sell mega moto pro
Go power sports sells frame kits and took over what is left of the company. You can't buy a complete mini bike any more. Gotta buy your own engine.
@@megoingfast thanks i just need frame complete i can get a motor
Do you need a license for this?
Aishik Chakraborty no
Walmart has them on clearance for $249
I was contemplating a 115, did not know they were to just clearance everything out to go out of business.
Mine goes about 50 mph
Any one have one for sale? Pro
They are coming up on Marketplace here and there. The importer went out of business, but the frames are still being made. Coleman power sports is now importing the smaller mega moto mini bikes and I am curious if these will come back to the US. They are available in the UK with the branding "SkyTeam" mini bikes.
I have one and want to sale it cause of the jack shaft
Why is it so slow I got mine to go 52
Mini Bike Madness i put a legit motorcycle odometer on mine and it said that
Not Mini Bikes. 1/2 Bikes. OKAY ? Mid Bikes. Yes ?
I’m probably repeating this and I’m not reading every comment to find out, but did you ever stop to think that it’s a little bit slower because it IS beefier? Heavier frame means slower bike. That’s beyond common sense. And another simpler concept, are both sprockets the same in both bikes? If not, there’s another obvious reason for your difference in performance. 🤦🏼♂️
Has more torque and faster off the line. Weight difference is negligible. Gearing is different. Slower top speed only, a lot more pop off the line.
Can I have one plz
Everyone can! Expect turtles. Turtles cannot have one.
oof. watching you turn the internals with out oil hurt.
These are so overpriced in my shithole country, like $1200!