The CHANGES (and problems) with MLB 2024 jerseys: Nike Vapor Elite
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Wow! Thanks for featuring my video! Glad I’m not the only one who thinks these changes are a major step backwards.
Thanks for sharing your views, Mike. The new jerseys look cheap AF to me. The players' comfort is obviously the most important factor, but fans will be getting ripped off by what seems like an inferior product.
You broke things down very clearly. Nicely done from a fellow Canadian and Jays fan, Mike.
I watched your video earlier today. Thanks for showing and explaining everything Mike
I collect NHL jerseys. Believe me Fanatics is making adidas too. Also they are making NFL & NBA too
Also these new MLB jerseys like Chinese knock offs. I’m afraid for the NHL jersey
Made cheaper but cost more
And the inflation excuse doesn't work anymore. These companies are the cause of most of the inflation we've been seeing. It's their greed.
Nike could've easily kept the quality the same and simply charged more. Instead, they lowered the quality and raised the price.
These things cost $200 in Canada and that's without a name lol. I'll be getting fakes. I can get 5 for the price of 1 real one lol.
That's the way of the world now.
Get less for More!
It's the Fanatics way!
Nike and Apple approve of this
I'm an avid NHL jersey collector. This terrifies me for what's going to happen when Fanatics takes over authentic NHL jersey manufacturing. If they are doing this to a league as big as the MLB I doubt they'll do much better for a relatively smaller league like the NHL
Fanatics is ruining everything. And it doesn’t help that they’ve monopolized it.
Oh they’re gonna be so dogshit lol
Yep I was going to give them the benefit of a doubt for authentic nhl jerseys but after hearing the mlb players have dog shit jerseys I’m starting to think we’re all fucked
@@andrewheitmeyer9945
The players are the ones who are screwed, wearing cheap-looking knockoffs. Fans simply don’t have to buy what this crap company is hawking. When they lose $ faster than Trump after a trial, they’ll go away. So…don’t drink their Kool-Aid.
DHGate, baby!
Brodie - talk to Shannon The Hockey Guy about the NHL jerseys.
I am terrified that they have been given the reigns for the NHL jerseys starting next year.
You've probably seen it, but for those who haven't. The Hockey Guy just dropped a video regarding the MLB concerns as they relate to future concerns for hockey jerseys.
That guy has the best hockey coverage on youtube. Top Notch!!
This breaks my heart as a jersey collector. I may only collect Cubs jerseys but I've collected since 1999. I seek out 80s/90s beyond jerseys, they are made with such high quality. Even a few years ago, the quality of Majestic was top-tier! The lowered batterman/goofy name plates/cheap stitching makes me just look elsewhere. Thanks for the great report!
Enshittification is affecting everything
I have 2 MLB jerseys made by Majestic in 2007. They have been worn/washed semi-regularly for 17 years now and still in good shape. These new jerseys cost more and are built to wear out after two years. But this is what MLB signed up for when they got into bed with Fanatics.
the old authentic had tackle twill cut letters for the BLUE JAYS on the front that were then stitched down. The new one (you are correct) is just embroidered on. Which after a few washes will start to pucker around the stitching and look terrrrrrible.
Fanatics is the bane of sports merchandisers. I'm no longer in the age demographic for wearing such things, but I wouldn't wear Fanatics garbage if they paid ME to do so.
It's astounding for a brand that has had nothing but a poor reputation for its products has not only lasted so long but grown exponentially.
@@reverend_wintondupreethey basically have monopoly over all sports products. Every single league.
@@JStorm13 there is one notable exception & that is European soccer (think Real Madrid & Manchester United among others). Fanatics have yet to really break into the soccer market mainly because of the multi million dollar endorsement deals these clubs & the top national teams have with brands like Nike & Adidas to make their gear not only for the players but also fans (though some clubs like Barcelona & Juventus also make their own fan gear that is sold at a cheaper price & on sites like Amazon so that fans can still support the club without having to spend hundreds of dollars on the Adidas or Nike gear). Fanatics when it comes to European soccer, is only a seller of the authentic gear made by Nike & Adidas & they will likely never get involved in the making of soccer jerseys because of what I mentioned above. This is a good thing for soccer fans as it means that while you may be paying more for the jersey of your favorite team, at least it will be well made & not have any quality issues if it were by Fanatics.
@@reverend_wintondupree you can get away with poor products when you have a monopoly. Unless people stop buying nothing is going to change.
I'm old & still purchase jerseys.... but will not be spending anything on this garbage! Already waaay overpriced!
These jerseys look like the kind of jerseys that will be used for maybe a year and remembered for the rest of time as one of jersey history's greatest colossal failures.
Kind of like the White Sox wearing shorts. 🙂
Cant wait when someone goes to slide into home plate and the blue jays heat press logo peels right off
Fanatics can be a pain in the arse to deal with. I'm a Detroit Tigers fan & the team's road gray jersey that features navy blue numbers (with the orange outline) has a small number under the "DETROIT" script. Even when you'd click on the pricy "authentic" option Fanatics doesn't show that small number on the front Why? Especially when you are spending the big bucks?
I have family in Colorado & I think the white home Rockies jersey ( w/ the pinstripes) is quite tasty. Same problem. Fanatics doesn't show that they put the small number on the front of this jersey either. Local shops in my metro Detroit area do sell the proper authentic Tigers road jersey. Why can the locals get it right & national Fanatics cut corners?
If it doesn’t have the numbers then it’s not the real deal. Just order fake ones like on the bay
Fanatics is notorious for cutting corners, especially with their quality control. But they're the only vendor in town, so they get the business of these leagues
The problem is fanatics bought Majestic pre-Covid, the jerseys were made by them with Nike logos, until this year. Now the Nike template has taken over
I had an internship at Sears in college and there were specific areas they had boxed out on each garment where u had to fit the design into because it was a specific price to print etc. Just visually the second i saw the 2024 jerseys with the mlb logo on the back moved down the letters squished in with the number and the general cookie-cutter aspect of them it screamed cheap
100%. This was my first thought when I saw how small and tight the numbers/names/mlb logo was on the back. A decision made to save manufacturing costs so it can all be hot glued/printed in one go. All the while charging the consumer top prices. Not to mention it looks like shit. Praying the mlb will continue with the previous iterations of their jerseys, because these 2024 changes are cheap and transparent
Fanatics doesn't care about the customers. The players may sway them though. It's amazing how this company has such control over a company like Nike.
Uni nerds have been following this story for a while. Shout outs to Paul Lukas at Uni-Watch and Cris Cramer at Sportslogos. The change has been greatly anticipated. Glad to see it’s getting mainstream.
Some other interesting things that people may notice: the head spoon (stripes that a lot of teams wear down the front and around the neck) are getting smaller, that’s why the mlb logo on the back got pushed down. Teams that had stripes near the end of the sleeve, but with some white sticking out, will now have the stripes cap the sleeves like on the Blue Jays example in the video. Most troubling are two more things: the break point for where the buttons split the team name, has moved. This means some teams, notably the Dodgers, now have the jersey break at a really awkward spot of the word mark (used to break between letters, now it splits the second “d” down the middle). And, as seen in the video above, there is a different material used for the word marks. The Phillies used to have a beautiful chain stitched logo across the front, now it’s going to be a flat placard. Same for the Cardinals (theirs still looks chain stitched, but it’s not stitched directly on to the jersey any more, it’s attached to a single piece of fabric, then that is sewn on).
So if you’re in the market for an authentic, especially if it’s a Dodgers, Phillies, or Cards, you might prefer to look for a 2023 or earlier model (bonus points if you can go back to when Majestic made them and they didn’t have that ugly Nike logo on the front).
Have 1957-58 original White Sox home uniform. Made by Wilson, light wool. Cream color or slightly lighter. All sewn on numbers, logos, etc. Bat Boy’s 97 and love it. Received from parents as Christmas gift. They got directly from friend who worked in White Sox ticket office when new uniforms arrived. A treasure.
That side panel or “piping down the side” is where Nike inserted their material (which is mostly what the Jersey now is) in between the panels of material from the old Jersey.
Everything about the Nike Jersey is made to be more ergonomic for the actual athletes (I bet it’s fits them like a glove) opposed to the usual below average fan build.
100% needed fans to see this!! Seen them in person last month and nope…. Didn’t like them you can see the difference in color, material, stitching, sizing of the letters and numbers… etc…. I’m glad i have the previous models. This new one’s a hard no from me.
Random first impressions of this channel was some sponsored channel from some group, but turns out you just know production 😉
Great setup. 👍
The first time I went to Chase in 2019, the store was selling authentic, on-court Warriors jerseys. When I went back in 2022, it was only swingman. I took one look behind the counter to now see a sign that said, "A Fanatics Experience". I figure that was why the authentic jerseys weren't available anymore. They've been so horrible for sports retail.
One thing that hits me. How are they gonna behave when you wash them? Things that feel cheap usually crash and burn when you wash them. Imagine paying 300$ for a shirt that’s gonna get ruined if you wash it…
I'm really enjoying your channel. I'm glad I found it.
The best way the Fans can speak up is to not buy them. If they see that revenue is down they’ll make changes. Sadly I doubt that will happen.
I need to buy as many Adidas NHL jerseys as I can because I’m not buying a Fanatics jersey if they end up like this crap.
the new Nike Elite jerseys are exactly what you’ll get when ordering from overseas btw. I didn’t believe it myself until I asked the seller online who stated that “this is the jersey mlb has chosen to go with in ‘24. 3 “authentic” game day jerseys for a total of $78 shipped 👀 they look & feel cheap. The numbers fold and the away colors are very different (I have pictures if needed for one of your videos)
I won't buy any of the fanatics made jerseys, especially when they start making the NHL jerseys next year
Get over yourself
@@slapshotjack9806 I’m not afraid of you
A company known for producing poor quality is now producing poor quality jerseys. Who would’ve known 😂. I really miss those Majestics.
Note to self: Buy pre-2024 Authentic jerseys (or DHGate)
I miss majestic jerseys
DHgate is fake
Great video! As a jersey-buyer, I'm disappointed to see the lack of quality in the new jerseys. I personally like the nice, stitched twill numbers and letters, and by, seemingly, cheaply sewing them on, it takes away from it being authentic. Hoping they make changes before the season.
If Fanatics and Nike can save a buck, they will. If they can save a few bucks, they will as well. Unfortunately, if MLB doesn't hold them to a high standards, there's no reason why Fanatics and Nike won't keep doing this.
The previous authentic jersey looks better. I definitely agree with you.
I'm a jersey addict and I love Nike (got a Jordan addiction) but I hope they didn't screw up the Cooperstown collection. I'm trying to find a angels throwback right now
Man Canadians are so polite! He really didn't want to trash the jersey but the lack of quality is evident! Fanatics, Nike & MLB need to do better.
$400 bucks for a Spirit Halloween costume? Think I'll pass. 🤣
As a soccer fan, this makes me worried about Fanatics possibly taking over for Adidas as the jersey maker for MLS after 2028 when the current deal ends. That could certainly happen given the fact that Fanatics currently operates the online store for MLS & has started to make their own fan gear for MLS clubs in recent years. For those wondering if Fanatics would ever make jerseys for European clubs like Man United, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Juventus, Liverpool or Barcelona among others, there is absolutely no way that those clubs would ever allow that to happen mainly because it would put their multi million dollar deals with brands like Nike, Puma & Adidas at risk. Also if Fanatics made the jerseys for those clubs, those jerseys would be sold all over the world meaning if there was any kind of quality issues, it would cause a lot of harm to those clubs reputation as a global brand.
I think european soccer is safe from fanatics, mainly like you said different clubs have different brands, which is really nice and authentic.
The funny thing is with European soccer. The replicas actually feel higher quality than the authentics. 😂
Fanatics makes all the fan merch for Premier League that you buy (at least in North America) already. I don’t know how they cornered every major sports league so quickly and made them all look bad.
Anyone who wears an advertiser, uhm, i mean soccer jersey is nuts. The whole idea they've fed their fans that wearing a billboard for a corporation represents their "team" simply because the colour is a certain colour is flabbergasting to me. Advertising on a sports jersey is one thing, but with soccer it's the only thing!
Sounds like they made a jersey that's more sweat wicking and more comfortable for the players. Unless the price of the fabric is more expensive than the old material, the new original jerseys should cost less for the fans who buy them.
Welcome to the world of shrinkflation. That is a battle the Players and fans may win but winning may come at the cost of an extra $50 Dollars.
Thanks to over a decades worth of centralised NIRP/ZIRP and helicopter money policies
NHL fan here. I finally got my hands on an authentic Adidas NHL jersey and I’m so glad I did before Fanatics takes over making hockey jerseys as well. Seeing how Fanatics massacred the jersey quality for the MLB terrifies me for what they will do to the NHL. Customers should boycott the new stuff! Don’t buy the crappy product! Force them to improve the quality or change manufacturers altogether.
As a Jays fan who liked their previous uniforms, it's shocking to see the on-field pros in what looks like cheap plastic knockoffs. Losing that beautiful embossed logo really drags down the whole look. I wouldn't even consider buying a replica or the pro version. Sadly, this year, I catch myself focusing more on the cheapness of the uniforms than the beauty of the game.
What gets me is the stupid outrageous prices for a pro jersey you can literally buy a game issued or game used jersey off eBay of a current or former player for more than a 100 bucks cheaper then what fanatics or MLBshop charge you buy a game used one your guaranteed a real deal jersey
I'm just glad that I'm well stocked on older jerseys for the teams I care about (Cardinals, Blues, and Rockies). I don't intend to buy anymore for a long time.
I have some fanatics jerseys from other leagues like the NBA
it feels so...flimsy
It sounds like George Costanza when he was trying to change the yankees uniforms to cotton and it backfired lol
They look like a t shirt with a little cheap embroidery attached. Fit looks like a soccer jersey
Fanatics is a mess. My advice buy from your team store. I always had good experiences from the Jays shop etc. The New Jerseys are different I can’t fully judge them until I see them in person. I don’t buy from fanatics unless I have no other choice. The new on field jerseys for the jays is different for sure. It’s a cheaper product but they sell for double the price. I rather buy from DH gate quite honestly.
Great video! Based on these trash jerseys my 2 new purchases are actually old jerseys. Russell Athletic and Majestic.
That's the current world we live in. Everything costs more, everything is made cheaper. From food products to sports jerseys to even luxury cars. It's a sad state of affairs.
nike makes a great uniform set in college athletics look at vanderbilt baseball for quality uniforms
so clearly they can do it
why the pros are using this down grade uniform is crazy to me
college has been using these new space age nike lokin uniforms for a wile now and they are not these new mlb unis
i thought that mlb would be upgrading to that but the onfield mlbbhnis look like the replica college unis
I swear I already saw these jerseys at Family Dollar.
It looks like the same quality as my Oakland Chapman GameDay giveaway from 2018
Except now you will have to pay $400 for it.
Great video. This doesn't surprise me. Things are getting more expensive and the quality is getting worst on so many items we see on the market today. Hopefully enough players will complain to make this right.
Cut through the advertising speak. They made a cheaper product but will still charge $200 for it because of inflation. That is what this is all about.
With the players, they will get the changes. Fans not so much. This reminds me of the nightmare of the original RBK Edge jerseys where water would pile into gloves and skates and by December of 2007 the players had the different material jerseys on the ice.
$450 for a blank authentic jersey it better feel good and be worth it. Only worries me more about with the NHL jerseys next year.
As an industrial embroiderer here in UK. I was laughing my head off when the GB letters on their uniforms started falling off. I felt that it was an insult to their pride having a uniform like that. I even tolf my husband I would have gladly embroidered it for them. The new jerseys are straight to fabric embroidery, while the previous one is what we call applique where you embroider a fabric into the garment.
Hockey fan . Love hockey sweaters. Fanatics diminished the jersey collections. In NHL jersey you have to buy the top notch jersey or it falls apart. I have full authentic Adidas Flyers jersey that have all kinds of stains . The stains are trophies of excitement.
Teams should just use any leftover jerseys they have from last year.
Honestly, the players care more about the pants than the jersey.
As far as the fans, dont buy the jerseys...that will guarantee a change.
Keyword in all this is Fanatics.
I wasn’t excited when they announced that Nike was given the MLB contract. They aren’t exactly famous for quality to begin with and then they defied MLB by putting their trademark on the front of the jersey and not on the sleeve and jock tag.
As a consumer, I'm so tired of getting the gaslight treatment. These businesses all want us to never trust our own eye test. I don't have perfect vision (close tho with my contacts), but I can tell what looks to be a great product and what looks to be trash. These official on-field jerseys have never been worth the $400+ they have been charging the last few seasons, but are they really looking for those prices with this trash?
Manfred is the worst. Just think about it like this - Manfred has allowed John Fisher to conduct himself in a reckless manner that truly disparages the sport and kills an entire community of fandom. John Fisher should definitely go away forever, but please take Rob Manfred with you. He is gaslighting us like crazy and the only way they'll respond is if we DO NOT BUY. Don't buy the trash. Don't do it, guys.
It’s not just Manfred, it’s every league and every commissioner.
Nike is ahead on everything. To an embarrassing degree. It may seem ‘cheaper’ but it’s not, Nikes materials are on a whole other level. Look into it, not to mention that they are extremely environmentally friendly.
This is the same thing that always happens in US sports. “Oh No! It’s not the same thing my grandpa had!”
Nike spends so much on R&D it’s why the own everything when it comes to sport and every athlete chooses Nike over everything else.
Tailors Brodie ahah, they make clothes. Found your channel earlier in the week; great content man
I’ve pretty much given up buying pro sports merch because of Fanatics. Which sucks because I’m a huge sports fan, but I’m not shelling out $$$ for merch that clearly looks like shit.
Fanatics is doing its best to monopolize every aspect of sports memorabilia and ruin it for consumers. Now that sports cards are under them too I'm sure they're going to ruin those too bu jacking up prices and lowering quality.
Stupid question: Is it possible to “weave” the team name, player name, numbers, etc directly into the fabric rather than sewing or heat transfer methods being used?
So the A’s Jerseys with the Elephant 🐘 logo on the side arm will be flat now ? And not 3D/ poked out looking anymore
probably
Remember... The NHL is moving to Fanatics later on this year technically next season...
I don't think that authentic jerseys are available for sale from Fanatics. The "Elite" jerseys are just better replicas. Anyway, we're missing the hell out of Majestic.
i wish they made authentics in size 36,,, 40 is just oversized on me
As someone who is visually impaired I honestly can’t see what the problem is with the new MLB jerseys
The MLB Jerseys to me seems like they are looking cheaper tyen the year before. As a PHILLIES fan people laugh at me when i tell them their Jerseys had 3 L's on tme . the Jersey from 1992 to a couple seasons after they showed the white alt home Jersey. PHIL LLIES was on the Jersey if you had it open but once done the first L in LLIES would over lap the L in PHIl when button up i thought it was the coolest thing ever but sadly MLB took it away . All 3 Jerseys had it the Home , Away & all white alt they wasn't on the replica Jerseys just the game Jerseys . All 3 Jerseys for 2024 just look cheap to me and as a hockey fan i think fanatics is going to make the NHL Jerseys cheap looking.
Theyve had quality issues with the NHL jerseys as well.
Could you imagine if the A's were picked for a city connect?
We arch the names at the back if it's long otherwise it's staright. They are loweing the cost.
So all this stuff but the it’s not as comfortable and as good performance wise. Glad I still got my Majestic and Russell Authentic jerseys. They still going strong after many wearings
Lets go Blue Jays.
Definitely intentional subliminal emotional marketing.
Step 1 / Year 1: Create lower quality product, drastically lower production cost, still sell many, while sparking outrage and an abundance of public discussion (publicity).
Step 2 / Year 2: Improve the product back towards original mass-desired quality, while sparking an abundance of public celebration and discussion (publicity), and sell more units than last year for even more profit.
In football (soccer) its the opposite, the fans have stitched and the players have plastic or rubberised
NHL has a 10 year contract with fanatics for the on ice jerseys.
....and as a collector of hockey jerseys I'm terrified
@@fpjrzman better to stop collecting new jerseys, is what I would like to say but casual fans buying the cheaper options must be the lion's share of their sales
@@ShadowWalker-ng1it considering I've got a feeling about LA changing their uniforms for next season and a Coyote migration to Utah, that's two for next season already.
I believe it may be called a seamstress. One who "sews" and makes garments.
Did MLB put John Fisher in charge of cheapening the jerseys? Did MLB think that Fisher is doing such a good job saving money on his franchise that they want him to do the same for the on-field jerseys, too?
I have been collecting jerseys for so damn long I can't ever recall. MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL, MLS, NLL, etc. Since Fanatics has started taking over all these professional leagues it has been all downhill. The quality is just awful. You want to see a real downgrade... look at the NHL switch from Adidas to Fanatics.
Really unfortunate. The prestige behind MLB jerseys is everything. Hate to see them cheapened in this way. Preparing for the worst with NHL lol
Most jerseys you see on fans at a game are counterfeits. These (particularly when you see the name/number on back) look like the counterfeits.
Cardinal players said the same thing...
These real life mlb 2k lookin jerseys are a huge miss
Just an embarrassment. My 31 year old '93 Phillies Russell Athletic made and Majestic 2008 Phillies jerseys still look and feel amazing today. Wasn't thrilled when Nike took over and slapped the Swoosh on the chest (obnoxious branding), quality of that felt different to me...and also far more expensive! But this is disgusting. These heat branded logos, how long before the glue weakens and fall off after multiple washes. Heck, sure a few shipped to people will have crooked glue logos . notorious from Fanatics. Even the Nike logo I hate on these new 2024 jerseys look kid of fake, a more rounded Swoosh. Total overpriced mess, ugh.
Mlb jerseys have been shit for years. Since Fanatics took over. The knock-offs feel more premium than the replicas. Spending 400 plus for the authentics is nuts to begin with.
I just order from fake sites. Sure the shipping is a pain but it’s nearly the same quality as fanatics anyways. But 1/4 the price
Facts
11:42 Fanatics make it based on Nike's design/template.
It cost over $600 Canadian for an authentic jersey
for real???
Devils advocate here. I think if they put in the quality needed with these jerseys including current inflation that these would be like 3 times more expensive. Yeah they’re getting worse for every league but I’d rather buy something for under $200 than only have $400 options because of “better quality” in 2024.
That’s just me though I’m not a collector. I buy a jersey from every league like once every 2 years.
Also I think jersey and basic clothing material technology is different than like 10 years ago and so common in our normal gym and daily clothes that we unknowingly compare it to cheaper quality. I have “authentic” jerseys that feel like some high end clothing I wear to the gym etc.
I hope this is the biggest controversy in MLB this season.
Oh thank Buddha I got my road grey SF authentic last year. You absolutely cannot find them online anywhere…not even eBay so I had to give blood at the team store last summer but I got the last size 52 they had. They rarely restock them throughout the season as well. Feels and fits great.
THANKS FANATICS
Maybe we can get authentic uniforms from the last few years on sale or clearance 😂
Bring back Majestic, their quality was superb
Majestic was bought by Fanatics in 2017. Fanatics still makes these crappy jerseys in the same factory that used to belong to Majestic.
lol.. i hunted down and bought a brand new, authentic Majestic flex base Blue Jays home jersey (because i don't like the nike adverts on the new jerseys), for 180 bucks! (i guess because it was outdated?), i couldnt belive it. just happened to be my size too. much better than having a huge ugly nike swoosh on it and penny pinching quality for 500 dollars. just good ole fashioned top teir quality sh-- . especially after these rediculous new jerseys they are putting out 😂.. worth every penny. ppl r getting effen ripped off and being used as human billboards, and here i am... just f-----' killin it.😏
This whole jersey fiasco reminds me of the time George Costanza switched the Yankees uniforms to cotton