Flying the F-4 Phantom | Roy Macintyre
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2021
- Roy Macintyre describes what it was like to fly the Phantom FG1, how it handled, and the great story of "The Battle of Pehiem Mast"
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I flew the F-4 B with the Marines and it was a magnificent beast. I also flew the F-8 and it was also a great plane but the difference between them was stark. The F-8 felt like there was an explosion in the tailpipe when the AB lit off but the F-4 was like an automatic transmission that kept accelerating. As a Naval aviator, we were taught to use the angle of attack as our safety base when things turned to you know what. It was a small device sitting above the glare shield that covered the instrument panel. It had a "V" symbol on top, an "O" in the middle, and an upside-down "V" on the bottom. Safe was the "O" and no matter where you were, upside-down, landing, in a high "G" dogfight, if the "O" was lit up the plane was happy and you were safe from a deviation to uncontrolled flight. All carrier approaches use this for a perfect approach and it is repeated on the landing gear for the LSO to see how you are doing. At Mach II if it wasn't for the airspeed indicator, you would never know how fast you were going. There was no indication at all and it still flew very stably. For me, a 22-year-old 2nd Lieutenant it was the dream of a lifetime and that old beast will be in my heart forever.
Using the fuel dump as a wing stall indicator is nothing short of genius. fantastic
Absolutely fantastic. The best ever description on the flying characteristics on the Phantom. Again, another interview which deserves 100x views
Thank you.
I don't think Roy reckons much to Politicians.
........... So that's another thing in his favour.
Top bloke.
I could listened to Roy all day. Great interview.
Me too...
I could listen to Roy all day! Absolutely fascinating, love how he explains everything in detail, the kind of bloke I'd love to have a beer with!
Very insightful interview. Really makes you appreciate the level of skill required to fly the F4 in demonstration teams like the Blues and TBirds.
The British F4 looked like a different kind of beast on it's own! Just like the American F4....truly a joy to watch & respect....the same with the Japanese F4....a samurai of the sky!
One of the loudest planes. In the 70s Thunderbird show at lake Tahoe impressed a ten year old. Back then it was common to hear Sonic booms everyday.
Roy always gives top quality interviews. They're so informative, and of course this one was on the British/Spey Phantoms, the best looking.
At work on 5sqn I was in recs control when I stupidly cracked a joke about armours . The Sgt shouted “ Window” . I was picked up and thrown unceremoniously out of the window onto the grass. My comment was can’t take a joke. The biggest armourer said “ yes we can we opened the window first”. Make fun at your peril with armourers .
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I m so happy to see Roy back, just like Jeff Guinn, his explanations are so great and done in a way that non-professionals get access to the logic behind things and make understanding those very things so much easier. He must have been a hell of an instructor/ teacher. Btw, how is Jeff doing, would love to see him on again, hope he s doing fine.
“Hidden talents will emerge with time.” What an insightful logbook entry. This was a great interview!
Cheers
F4 Phantom : the coolest fighter aircraft ever !!!
Sopwith Triplane, Spitfire, Hunter, F16 even ........... they're *all* the coolest best fighter aircaft ever
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EE Lightning??
@@gazza2933 Oh yess. Very much so.
F-14, baby.
First aircraft I worked on . first love eh
All , regardless of rank etc, who knew or came into contact with Roy only had praise for him, if only the majority of officers had his attitude and manners then it would be far better RAF.
The noise from 1980/81 of tombs reheat departure was just awsome, QRA shouts were great as there was just so much noise,smells 😁 Mind it can be tricky to get a word in with Roy occasionally, but the legendary Friday night mess rituals were quirky ! Us rotary guys were always judge and jury 🤪😝😁😁😁😁🥳🥃
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Aha! A real mix-up! Adding 4+4 was so 'happy'.
What a great man would love to have a week or two jest to sit and listen to all his flying story's. Great video 🤠👍🇨🇦Some good tips for all you keyboard warriors on DCS
Love Roy Macintyre. Great interview about one of my favourite aeroplanes.
Glad you enjoyed it.
@@Aircrewinterview The perfect winter Sunday pastime in Cape Town, South Africa!
The Phantom! Even today, the lines of the old girl just scream "fighter jet". Such brutal beauty! Japan has recently retired the last of their Phantoms, but I believe Turkey still flies their "Terminator" variant (systems & weapon updates) F- and RF-4E's, as does S. Korea and Greece.. Phantoms (almost) Phorever..
For anyone wondering how Angle of Attack works, it’s when the aircraft’s nose is raised above the direction of travel, before the movement can catch up with it. The reason it’s usually measured in degrees is because it’s how many degrees above the direction of travel the nose is raised. The more Angle of Attack an aircraft pulls the more it leaves standard flight, the less the wings are pointed into the oncoming air which is what causes that trailing edge stall he talks about.
Great interview. Roy's explanation of why pilots had to use rudders at high angles of attack was the best I've heard, especially with the story of the fuel dump! Great stuff. Must have seen him flying at Leuchars back then.
Roy’s a top bloke thank u for the interview 😊😊
Indeed. We have a new episode out this Sunday with Roy.
Thank u look forward to video thank u
Roy should teach instructors how to do lectures! Brilliant stuff! 👍👍👍
Great interview, and Roy is a pleasure to listen to
FYI we had adverse yaw on the space shuttle too. On entry we are flying an alpha of 40 degrees and we had to augment control surfaces with our RCS jets.
VMFA 235 KMCAS (Kaneohe MARINE CORPS AIR STATION Hawaii) F 4 J`s. `73-`75. You explained the adverse yaw well. I was aviation ordnance. Used to fly my own RV-4.
Fantastic thanks for sharing
I too was at Raf leuchars in the late 80s ,happy times
I remember the beer calls well😊
Regards
Dave
Glad you enjoyed it
Roy is the man👍🏻
I feel like the reason Phantom pilots like the plane is because its quirks and shortcomings are like badges of honor. Even its crude looks give it an intimidating appearance.
crude looks?? She's gorgeous!!
The old days were more dangerous, because the cold war was, actually, a war. Thanks for your service in a dangerous time.
Great interview loved it.
Very entertaining most informative many thanks to you both...
Great stuff Mike thanks 👍 thanks to Roy too really enjoyed it I look forward to the happy hour episode
Cheers Nige.
@@Aircrewinterview you are welcome I listen to the podcasts in the car more lately than the radio, it’s far more entertaining
Controversial but I still think the Phantom, especially the RAF Phantoms are the meanest looking beasts the UK have ever operated 😍
Loving your interviews with Roy! Thanks 😀
Thank you both brilliant interview
Much Respect Sir ! Loved watching the Phantoms at RAF Leuchars - amazing aircraft and crew :-)
Super, super interview!
An interesting outlook regarding Spey engined F-4s I read from a former Phantom pilot went along the lines of when a dog gets Speyed, it slows down and gets a bit lardy around the arse! :D
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With the Spey Phantom having 5000 lbs of thrust more (about 15%) it's strange that they apparently only had a top speed of mk1.9 whereas the F4E could supposedly do mk2.2.
Edit: Ahh it's because the engines were wider, so the fuselage was wider but also because they were so powerful they needed larger intakes. I guess there's a happy medium
F4 landed like you've dropped a sack of spuds!
Drunk in charge of a bicycle!
Love his tales!
They fly over my house every day of the week Phantoms !! Very rarely on a Sunday though! But haven't seen one for a few days though !
Nice video, these guys are a special bunch.
While safety is a laudable goal, it has the danger of rendering the military less prepared for its war-fighting role, the very definition of 'unsafe'. It's a difficult balance to strike - training people to handle risk and adversity while not exposing them to excessive danger.
My fave plane of all time! I visited 74 Sqn at Wattisham in about 1992 (At a guess, or possibly at Wildenrath, can't remember).
Very interesting.
Flying the F-4 sounds a lot like my typical outing in the DCS Tomcat 😆. Sounds very similar in how to roll the jet with rudder. If I'm not mistaken, GB received F-4Js. First thing to do was they got rid of was those smoky J79s. I can't imagine a jet with tons of ass behind it, and replace it with even more ass lol. Roy explained the engine difference exceptionally. Its my favorite jet ever, and I enjoyed hearing about its UK cousin. Legendary aircraft of the Cold War.
Frank you are correct about the smoky J-79's but it was an extremely reliable engine. With over 1000 hrs in the F4 I never had an engine issue nor did anyone in my squadrons.
@@jcheck6 The J79 engine was a perfect match fir the F-4, unlike the F-14A's TF30. The combo of airframe and engine broke speed and altitude records of its day. I think the later versions like the E and S Phantoms had smokeless engines, but not entirely sure. So you were an F-4 driver, or rio?? Oh man,, I envy you! Its always been my favorite jet ever since I was a kid. Some ppl call it "double ugly", but I find absolutely nothing ugly about it. Its big, mean, fierce and was asked to do all kinds of missions it wasn't designed to do. Other than the F-35, Its the only other jet that served in Navy, air force, and USMC that I can think of. It was exported to our allies, and they adapted it to fit their needs, like the British variant, and the Kurnass. I mean one is even called a "Terminator" and is completely modernized. I think it is quite the success story in aviation. I can't think of any other jet that has had the longevity as the F-4.
@@frankbizzoco1954 Driver Frank. Your knowledge of the F4 is to be commended. Btw, the AF calls the RIO a WSO.
@@jcheck6 Well thank you for your service. My dad was stationed at Udorn RTAFB during Linebacker as an ATC, and he took all sorts of pictures when he was over there. A bunch of pictures were of the F-4D in jungle camo, on the flight line, taking off, and landing with drag chutes deployed. He said an F-4 with burner on was the loudest thing he has ever heard before or since. So then naturally I had to read up on it as much as possible. Back before the internet, and all I had were those things called books, and Discovery Wings lol. I have since developed quite an admiration for its replacement, the F-14. F-15 on the air force side isn't too shabby either haha.
Great interview, i recognise Roy, we must've met at some stage, the question about drink driving is, what about drink flying?👌😜
F -4 , turns like a truck. But climb like a Phantom.
Looking forward to that “happy hour”!!! :)
I will try not to chat about the F3 too much!
@@Aircrewinterview any happy hour involving talks about flying during the 80's90s, Phantoms, Tornadoes and "raw thrust" are always welcome :) Thanks for letting us enjoy these stories Mike.
Ah! The Pehiem Mast!
Well it must have been a scary place because I shoved ' Pehiem Mast' into Duck Duck Go .....................
And the first listing was for 'Urinals & Urinal Bottles'
Absolutley true.
Great interview. Reminds me of a rather rude Phantom joke. "What happens when you Spey a b*tch? She gets fat and slow!"
Never been this early!
I think the spey engines had more top end speed, kinda slow on acceleration. I could be wrong
I hope you still instruct Roy...
Reverse boundry layer on the root?
Nice brief Roy
What he's talking about is exactly why the Top Gun program worked so darn well for the Navy during the war in Vietnam......getting everything out of the aircraft, flying it right up to the edge!!
@Aircraft Interview - Did you create the intro theme tune?
One of my friends created it for me.
Another AI classic. Roy Macintyre is top drawer.
Cheers
Hunts google maps for Pehiem Mast lolol
agricultural that cracked me up hahahahaha
Still cracks me up
Ace combat 3 i kick all ass in a phantom. Trick is the spool up and spool down
And stayin on the edge
I cheated endless armaments
Id die about 30 in 90 flights
Bein spooled down at the right time turns better
Spey engines caused the loss of the coke bottle effect