The Oldest Monotheistic Religion Has The Most Diabolical Hell You Can Imagine
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- Zoroastrianism spans back approximately 3500 years, all the way to ancient Persia, making it one of the oldest organised faiths in history and arguably the world’s first monotheistic religion. It was the state religion of ancient Persia up until around the 7th century when it was dropped in favour of Islam during the Muslim conquest. There, Zoroastrian refugees, known as Parsis, fled from Persia to avoid persecution and emigrated to India where the practice of Zoroastrianism continued to survive. Even today, the practice of Zoroastrianism continues as a minority religion, with an estimated 200,000 worshippers worldwide.
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2:45 Zoroastrian Hell
5:00 Book of Arda Viraf
21:53 Conclusion
💡 TOPICS IN THIS VIDEO 💡
- Zoroastrianism
- Arda Viraf
- Hell
- Mythology
- The Book of Righteous Wiraz
📚 Sources and Further Reading 📚
- The Book of Arda Viraf
- The Devil's Atlas: An Explorer's Guide to Heavens, Hells and Afterworlds, Edward Brooke-Hitchings
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You know? We are quite creative when it comes torture and horror, and not much for sunshine and rainbows.
We are the violent type of apes
That's why in this book there are vague recollections of what Heaven is like but when it comes to Hell, oh boy there's lots of stuff.
Please don't mention rainbows. I had too many thrust into my face the last few years.
@@LivingEpicness1are you triggered by rainbows? Being so frail must be difficult.
@@joebenzz More people escape Hell than relinquish the gifts of the Heavens
So this is Persian Dantes Inferno? Interesting...
The Biblical prophet Daniel inspired Zoroastraniasm.
@@danielanderson6933interesting
@@danielanderson6933 Daniel wasn't alive before Zoroastrianism was created 😂
@@danielanderson6933 Christians thinking the world revolves around them... You guys are just a nuisance really 🤦🏽
@@djchaiwallah How did you come to that conclusion?
One thing I admire about Zoroastrianism is that damnation isn't determined by beliefs, but by actions.
As unfortunately contorted as it has become, so to in Christianity/Catholicism. Many people don't want to realize that it's not God that sends you to Hell. it's you yourself, most people don't want to bear that cross, most don't want to accept the responsibility and culpability.
Also Zoroastraniasm is Biblical. The prophet Daniel inspired it and the 3 magi were Zoroastrians who were keeping prophetic records.
That's a contradictory: belief is a deed,most important of them all.
Belief is an action
@@raskult Belief is an act of faith in the absence of evidence.. If you want to call that an action.
Sounds like Dante found some inspiration in this.
Probably Dante took it from here😅
Dante more likely got inspired from Virgil's "Aeneid", chapter 6, which also recounted a journey to the land of the dead.
@@kimeraclan3135 It seems that maybe a journey into the underworld is some kind of synchronistic experience that many profound men write about.
Sounds like christianity had some inspiration
What if it didn't though? What if they just saw the same sights? What if...?
Bro drank mixture of alcohol, bhang, and ephedra. Of course he'd see hell 😂
Hel has a list of naughty children in the Leviathan. Ever wonder why you have no clue about Christmas? 👹🔥
@@annaaurora81303it's a pagan holiday
I’d probably see hell and a half if I was lucky lmao
@averongodoffire8098 why did you put god of fire in your name? Do you believe in multiple Gods or Godesses? I am curious abd not trying to argue or anything.
@@jennifermercer3481
Made my own gods, kinda an exercise after I fell out of faith after finding it incompatible to myself and beliefs
There are several gods whom I pray to
Averon is a god of fire passion and hate who is my own patron god
I made these gods basing them off my own experiences and people I know and associate with certain things and feelings
It’s been many years and they’ve become as much as gods to me as any conversion would bring me closer to another
Me being a Zoroastrian didn't know all of this knowledge. Moreover, we Zoroastrians don't know much about our own religion as most of our scriptures were destroyed hundreds of years ago during the conquest, and coupled with fact that not many of us are left in this world. Great content as always! Love from India! ❤
We have the Gathas, the Vendidad, the Visperad, the Khorde Avesta…
It’s true that most of the Gathas are missing, but we know a fair bit.
May Ahura Mazda bless you and may Asha show you the way.
This book sounds more like ancient propaganda than actual information on your religion.
To be fair this is probably not cannonical. Doesnt fit the general thought of the religion at all.
I think this was made very late, close to the time when Zoroastrianism was declining.
@shardator sounds like any religious book, go figure 🙄
"Consuming cups of filth"
Why?
"Oh that's not a punishment, that's just Katie. She's weird like that."
"dropped in favor of"? no, it was barbarically forced on them
Wow, you said in 2 short sentences what took me 2 paragraphs to say. I should’ve read the comments and just liked yours, instead of writing mine. Lol
oh stfu u werent alive 3500 years ago to possibly know that. stop superimposing your own projections to the past.
@@YouSpewed "gotta keep it short n sweet" - shakespeare & nietzsche
Well itdoesnt sound like they believed such a faith like zoroastianism out of their free will in the first place
@@petrospetromixos6962 The Law of Asha prevents forcing someone to believe. Because their belief would be a lie. Do keep up.
Dropped in favor of Islam is one way to put it…
Yeah thats for sure
One day Persians woke up and decided islam was superior and they all joined it simultaneously
Bullshit ,they accepted it peacefully
@@petrospetromixos6962Salman Farsi, read about him
It lost it's pragmatic appeal in the middle ages. I suppose
It seems that the Zoroastrian founders figured out that fear is much more compelling than a promise of happiness to compel human action. A practice that is echoed the world over by almost all major religions.
This is only some aspects of the religion. It’s a very positive religion, in the end good always wins, and Humans are coworkers of God.
I'm almost wondering if this served as some inspiration to Dante Alighieri
My thoughts exactly. This would've been made centuries before "Divine Comedy" and I'm sure Florence was still in trade with the East.
I thought the same. We should all become best friends and talk history
Maybe Dante had read some ancient texts, but given Virgil's presents in the epic poem I think it more likely that Aligheri had been inspired from Greco-Roman though.
Well, Christians did steel from it, from Jesus himself, if ever a man existed. Later sects, at the Council of Nicea had taken much more than others.
Yet, one can find the influence from the Greek afterlife, within Dante as well.
Dante was making a statement about the times he lived, as he had recently deceased clergymen, monarchs, etc. within the Hell we are shown in the Inferno. It was very much a political statement, because he saw the church had become a corrupt monarchy, with every type of the most horrible things humans could do, being justified by those in power.
@@kimeraclan3135 Who got _their_ cues from Zoroastrianism.
Aeshma is _not_ the chief demon in Zoroastrianism. He’s just the demon of wrath, fury, and rage.
I apologize you obviously know more than me can you expand on what you said I’m a Buddhist master well zen master of the rinzaishu in Japan either way I like to learn so yeah if you could tell me who the supreme evil force is? As that’s how I’ve always been taught about that religion I do know that during the Muslim conquest most surviving members of the religion fled to India
@@kadmusfoogs Angra Mainyu, or Ahriman, is the absolute apex of evil in Zoroastrianism.
Aeshma doesn't even come close; as a matter of fact, it's said that its inevitable fate is to be consumed by Az, the demon of greed, therefore implying that Az is both stronger and higher in rank.
@@purplehaze2358 this is what I thought thank you for the clarification always go with your gut huh? You seem to know a little about the ways of Zoroaster very cool
I'm pretty sure there isn't a chief evil diety in zoarastianism.
The Wise Lord is the creator, there is no second diety.
It's the same as the abrahamic religions. Quite literally so.....
@@elib9002 That's only in one interpretation. Truth is, Zoroastrianism is a very diverse belief system that's evolved and changed quite a bit since its inception. There are and were a dozen different versions of it which all have different beliefs.
Thank you for making this video. I am Persian and have Zoroastrian art all over my house from family back in Iran but had no real idea about the details of the religion. Really appreciate this video. Not sure if you cover the 3500 year old fire that's been burning in Iran as a shrine because I'm only 2/3rds done but it's a remarkable fact of the religion.
Takbier
Do you mean you're also Zoroastrian or just keep Zoroastrian art culturally? When I travel to Indonesia for example I notice many Muslims still have Hindu art in their homes, or similarly how European Christians still have Greco-Roman Classical art.
@@kaysmith8992 Just the art, I am agnostic
@djchaiwallah Agnostic/Gnostic us about knowledge. Athiesm/thiesm is about belief. You can be an Agnostic athiest.
I don’t think this really covers a lot of what they believe in. It probably not considered scripture just an old story now.
"It's not gay to top" goes way back it seems
As old as misogyny itself
So this is where the prison rules come from?!
"The man giving the pounding ain't gay, only the 'bundle of sticks" taking it is." #TheMoreYouKnow
Maybe that's why I'm not interested in topping 😮
If I’m gonna believe in any religion surely it’d be the first recorded one? These new ones that are barely scraping 1000 years are a bit too much these days.
The only True and First Religion is the Melchizedek Priesthood covenant which all the Law and Prophets originate from. The Orthodox Church which includes all Holy Trinity Baptism Churches is the Completed fulfilled Melchizedek Priesthood and Levitical Priesthood of the 12 Tribes of Israel through Messiah Jesus Christ.
Original Jomon era Shinto part of the Law and Prophets completed fulfilled by Emperor King of Kings Jesus Christ (Yahusha Hamashiach); including Shang Ritual Chinese Temple of Heaven Border Sacrifice - Mandate of Heaven - (Confucianism), Original anti-witch Persian Zoroastrianism, Xiongnu Mongol Tengrism.
(Righteous Pure Heart in Holy Baptism Ritual Purification Covenant Required upon physical death, Honor and Glory!)
(All Witches/Liars) Pharisees lying scholars of modern era wrongly call many cultures pagan by their false deliberately skewed documentation. Witches contracted by evil spirits were used to corrupt the lore that was archived in prime cultures after the Tower of Babel event by teaching corrupt inverted sacrifices that they invited people to make to the underworld "God" claiming a false savior for them as opposed to the truth of the Virgin Birth Savior, as their goal was to mislead them into thinking Satan judges their fate in the underworld hell. Holy Faith vs Lies/Blind Corrupt Faith.
But there are probably ones even older than what we have records for
The oldest religions is animism based. Belief in spirits of nature.
Yeah but they don't accept converts, not even if you marry into it, so gl I guess
@@tily5939
No. The Sun, Moon, the wind, nature itself, were the first things worshipped or rituals were made to worship.
Before farming, the hunter gatherer, would’ve followed the Sun, that never changed behavior, unless an eclipse happened.
It is why nearly all the ancient religions, are sun based.
*I totally read the comment as saying animals, not animism. Apologies to @tily5939
It’s important to remember that these depictions are deeply symbolic. Hence why the punishment is associated with the sin.
That animal revenge section is the best one ! 👏🏽👏🏽
Many punishments from hell seem to be very similar to speculated occult practices of the elite.
Hmm, I wonder where they got their inspiration. Could it be from the demons they worship and work under? But no matter, they’ll get to experience those horrific experiences first hand for all eternity. Truly sad.
@@MRoque-vt9ef We are punished BY our sins, not FOR them. Hell is the absence of GOD, meaning the warmth of love and contentment in life. Simple people don't readily bother to consider the long term consequences of their short term transgressions. The hungry street rat doesn't care if the purse they snatch from the merchant results in that family getting sold into slavery for debt. The liar schemes for gain irreverant of the harm brought to those who bar the way to fortune. Yet hunger returns the next day, and now there is one less purse to snatch. Lies eventually tie one's life into knots that strangle you and see you ostracized. All these kings, all these prophets, these priests trying to invoke control over the mob with cautionary tales and symbolism that is then taken literally by the uninformed, superstitious, and uneducated. There is no heaven. There is no hell. There is only this life. Make the best that you can of it, and if it comes to pass that all your faculty and agency in it are subverted by authorities above your influence: endure.
@@MRoque-vt9ef Have you been to hell to speak with such authority?
Yes- I heard that from a video that was called something like 'freemason initiation rituals' and it was a lady explaining what people in Hollywood have to do to be initiated and progress to higher levels of fame. She was there and she said that if people don't go along they won't get publicity and will not get famous, but those who do go along with the sick rituals (like eating and drinking feces and urine was one of them- at a Hollywood party) will then be all over magazines and get huge deals, like whenever you suddenly see a celebrity promoted everywhere and getting huge rolls it is because they were initiated into the cult.
@@Necroman98Nope. But he has been to the bottle so he speaks will full authority
IIRC, the woman "approaching water & fire during menstruation" punishment was due to women being restricted from holy ritual while menstruating. Since they considered it as being unclean and inappropriate to attend holy rituals during that time. In effect, it was basically a pardon for them to skip normally expected ritual attendance.
Ahhhh, that explains that, thank you.
I prefer the approach many Native American religions have towards it- it's that a woman on her time of the month simply has so much spiritual energy she'd overcharge and mix up the energy of holy things by handling them.
It’s very interesting how monotheistic overlap. Because that’s the same in Islam. You don’t have to pray or fast during your period
@@hajarmdn4883 Yep! It probably goes back even further than those too.
@@hajarmdn4883it's a thing in most religions imo. Most don't go to temples during their period.
@grace-zz8zh
No, its a thing that came out of most religions of the middle east and central asia.
A lot of other religions either dont care or consider a woman as having a lot spiritual power at that time.
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Great job!! I've heard of this religion but never knew any details.
Ahura Mazda drew his power from a twin turbo, four rotor engine...
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Hey man ahura mazda is coming to get you Hoohoohahahaahaa 😈😈👹👹😜😜
The Japanese Car company actually legitimately *does* derive its name from the supreme Zoroastrian deity.
Wow. The timing of this in my life is bananas. Thanks for the great content!
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When Jordan Maxwell was a little boy, he asked a Catholic priest if we become spirits when we die? The priest said "Yes, we do." Then Jordan asked 'after we die and become a spirit, can we still be cut or burnt? The priest said, "No a spirit can't be cut or burnt." Finally Jordan asked, "If a person becomes a spirit when they die, and a spirit can't be burned, how does a dead sinner burn in hell?" Yes, the young Jordan got in trouble and was told to sit down and shut his mouth. RIP Dear Jordan Maxwell, a national treasure in my humble opinion.
they will cook up another reason, "spirits will be burned with spiritual fire"
all be raised in the days of judgement@@kaprio551
Who's Jordan Maxwell? He doesn't have a page on Wikipedia.
Edit: Nevermind, just googled him. He's an occultist. Sorry about that.
And yet, he still burns
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Freddy Mercury was Zoroastrian…
And he was gay and is in hell
So he is being punished for sodomy now.
You’re born into Zoroastrianism in the modern era. No one can convert to it as well. So Freddy was born as a Zoroastrian.
@@Epta197 Indian Zoroastrians don’t accept converts. Some Iranian communities, especially those who live abroad, sometimes do.
@@stefanostokatlidis4861 ahh I see. I thought that was universal in the modern Zoroastrian community. Thanks for the info👍🏼
This channel is always great
Wonderful production quality, as always. Smooth yet engaging narrative tone. Captivating imagery, truly beautiful art in here. Reminds me a LOT of Dante's Comedia, seems he left a few things out of his Inferno, eh? While I don't subscribe to any of this beyond royal fearmongering promoted to keep the gentry and common folk in line, it is a good look at one of the most ancient religions in our history. I love Persian myths and legends. Thank you for your work!
I remember sitting in a philosophy class 35 years ago when this was first introduced to me... It completely gave me a new focus and perception on The Big Three and how they have more similarities than they do conflicts, justifying that its truly the followers of religion who have the issue, and their interpretation of the tenets, or validity of the various interpretations
Ironically enough I was attending the University of Utah at the time which could explain why I was able to see the similarities and conflicts
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This is a quote straight out of the Zend Avesta(Prayer to Hvare-khshaeta(Radiant Sun)
Mazda Yasna is NOT monotheistic:
We sacrifice unto all the Holy Gods of the world unseen.
We sacrifice unto all the Holy Gods of the material world.
We sacrifice unto our own soul.
We sacrifice unto our own Fravashi(spiritual protector).
We sacrifice unto the good, strong, beneficent Fravashis of the Holy Ones.
Dante’s Inferno about to be DMCA copyright struck!
Your teachings on this ancient faith are greatly appreciated.
and completely inaccurate.
‘Dropped in favour of Islam’ is funny man.. Islam was forced upon the Persian’s just as they did to many other nations took by sword, conquest and ridiculous ultimatums. They slaughtered many Zoroastrians who refused to convert..
So true👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
funny tho, their god cant help them from the conquer by Islam.
😌
@@sungodnika3545And funny that Islam's god can't help them from Israel 😌
@@miranolastname2366 you talk about Islam or Gaza ?
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Muslims typically did not force people to convert and where more religiously tolerant than for example Christians at that time.
Sounds like they threw whoever they didnt like into a deep dark pit to eat each other and never be let out.
Great video.
Quite Enjoyable, ..."Thanks" 👍
Great video
Imagine an atheist, a Jew, a Christian and a Muslim facing Ahura Mazda's judgement and the WTF look on their faces.
It would be based on actions rather than beliefs, the people with power who are agents of Ahriman with power who create conditions on earth that ostracise good and make being good to others hard will probably have the worst fates for example.
It is also not Ahura Mazda who sends you to Hell but the consequences of your own actions basically brings you closer to Ahriman and allows him to have more control of you, worst case scenario being your individual urvaan ceases to exist and you just become part of a hivemind under him dedicated to stopping the universe from being wholly good.
Atheists or the like who worked to create a world without dog eat dog conditions or exploitation and instead aimed to strive for conditions which rewarded goodness in humans and spread goodness would likely go to Heaven still.
@@radianthorizons5530Yet I can dedicate my whole life to doing good and end up in hell because I’m gay… This hatred of people is the purest and strongest of druj it seems.
This vision was based on a drink
15:18" is interesting, especially for those like me who have read Ferdowsi's Shahnameh. I notice how serpents have a negative contonation in Arda Viraf. In Shahnameh, Dohag (Zohaq???) the Arab (a villain later vanquished by the hero Feridun) is said to have been mutated and also has a serpentine form not different to what is described here.
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There’s a strange occurrence with ancient religions and eating feces in the afterlife
Only if you go to hell my friend...
@@FreeAmerica4Ever nah ancient Egyptians would say that will happen no matter what unless you’re getting offerings
Then you’re eating poop and what is left for you
Definitely should do a story on moses if you haven't already 💯
Great video, thank you. We see this in Western (Roman) Catholicism in that hell is often the fevered sado-masochistic fantasies of the (clerical) authors of the texts, that can be expressed in no other way within the current society.
I had a Mazda Ahura in college back in the 90's. It was a shit box.
I love when religions corroborate certain things. Such as the bridge of life and death, similar to the Bardo in tibetan buddhism or the ancient egyptian Tuat
Semen in the eyes, so you can see where I'm coming from😂
That shit stings! Um, so i've heard😁
That was very well cumpiled
😮😮😮😮 enjoyed this though
The bureaucracy and the body shame - well, we can't just blame the Catholics. At least we didn't get the Egyptian stuff handed down to us - we get symbolic vampirism rather than necrophilia.
“Good thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds”. I love that about Zoroastrianism.
It's interesting how Zoroastrianism accepts the idea of not imposing the faith onto non practitioners, as well as keeping a simple life, but that the belief still prohibited acts such as homosexuality and abortion. I'm prochoice and accepting of sexuality, but obviously realize that there is nuance of thought that should be considered.
zoro is sending you to hell
@@gorequillnachovidal Damn it! I've stolen to much from the good people of California! And the Strawhat Pirates still hold a grudge!
@@gorequillnachovidal I couldn't help myself with that joke. But, to be fair, that might happen when the prophet's name is pronounced in the Greek form, rather than the traditional Persian.
Just don't be Catholic or Baptist and you'll be fine
No, she is sending herself to hell…due to her sins and not repenting and coming to a saving faith in Jesus Christ @@gorequillnachovidal
Awesome and cool! ^_^
Ironically we are very close to creating hell on earth. The place has no limits of horrors save for imagination. Now think of a full immersion VR that has no exit, then imagine if it created your worst fears one after another without an end. 😮
Weaponized Algorhytmic Rehabilitation. Confronting with the "actual socially accepted" moral code and artifical idealism will make us end up in our own little VR hell, time sequenced torture on loop.
Today it's just the personalized advertisements. But tomorrow?
@@joecommon7011 we've been in hell since the fall from grace and fallen angel rulership Over earth
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Land of the Free(Masons)
6 points hexagram of baal, moloch, remphan flexed by all pagan systems, including Hinduism ✡️
Not knocking any religion, but listening to this, you can see a childlike mentality fully at play.
Like when you got the golden opportunity to write scary stories at junior school. Us lads would always try to out-gross each other with gory details without copping too much flak from the teacher). Our tales would generally start with a sentence of exposition, followed by three pages of gratuitous violence and plenty of blood 'n' guts.
It wasn't much less sophisticated than this 😂
People do love their horror stories, whether on film today, in a fire and brimstone sermon of the Middle Ages, or these ancient tales.
Yes, perfectly worded. A childlike mentality at play. Basically like those who take politics or religion too seriously.
A fantastic if gory episode! 🔥😈👏
I just wanna say that I wouldn’t call Zoroastrianism the oldest religion. At least from what I know there a lot of ambiguity among historians and archaeologists on if Zoroastrianism or Hinduism is older. I think they mostly favor Hinduism by about 500 years but I keep hearing different dates from different people. Also as more of a paleontologist myself I would like to mention there are prehistoric religions that are older. Zoroastrianism and Hinduism would be the oldest _still practiced_ religions rather than the oldest religions point blank.
Oldest monotheistic religion. Hinduism is polytheistic
That is why it is written as monotheistic
One common thing surely in these ancient text: There is no redeemer. It is impossible for mankind to keep 'ALL THE LAWS, ALL THE TIME' (what ever the LAW, whenever the TIME). We also aware, that no righteous move outweighs the wicked deeds. (say that if 1 person was with another person's wife once: the punishment is clear. You killed a fly, spider or serpent motivated by fear then the punishment is clear). Furthermore based on heretics: say who believed this ancient text, practiced righteous life for 30 years, yet fall once to greed, lust or deceive. They suffer even harder.
Even the OT has only a Promise of a redeemer. Every ancient belief, religion, practice offers no help to become a righteous person. Providing countless punishment for sins are not help, but motive strengthen by fear. And the LORD GOD has not given mankind a spirit of fear.
These things are for sure true for current times, in context of 1 person. If that person decides:
- If There is no GOD -> then who stops the evil?
- If there is no evil -> then why GOD is needed?
- If there is no heaven or hell -> then what is permanent non-existing? Energy can not be created nor destroyed by mankind. Then what happens to a person when they cease to exist?
- If the kingdom of GOD is at hand, then for sure hell is closer then one might assume.
What I am trying to state here is: Hell is a place without GOD (without Light, without Truth) and Heaven is a place with GOD (with Light, with Truth). This place could be in your Mind, Head, Body, Earth or where ever you think it might be: The statement remains true. The choice is presented, the decision is yours and yours alone.
You're assuming that there is a need for a redeemer A lot of religions don't believe that. You're placing the cart before the horse by assuming Christian Is automatically the correct one.
Very well said!
Do you become a thing that doesn’t think? Like the Lion King, you become soil?
Also, you say all this as if it has to logically happen and ignore the fact that you’re not using science because God chooses to torture people or not. No “my hands were tied the unbaptized baby cannot be near me.” Don’t kid with the “it’s just a feeling away from God.” What’s described here is physical torture
i like how he said dropped and not forcefullt remplaced
I can see influences on the Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam). Not just that, but both Dante's "Divine Comedy" and Muslim Persian devotional literature (from which Dante in turn drawed much) seem to be heavily indebted with similar Zorastrian texts.
... Yikes.
If Zoroastrianism was indeed an influence on the Abrahamic faiths, I can see where a number of Christian and Islamic sects got much of their deep misogyny and homophobia.
The question is where did the ancient Persians get it from...
Of course, it was the Magi that visited the baby Christ at his birth. Persia came into contact with the Jews. No doubt many Persians prior to Islam converted.
No, Zoroastrianism is actually very feminist. For example, a verse in the Yasnas says that both men and women can be rulers, and the latter were, indeed, rulers, in ancient Persia. Also, the homophobia was a much later addition from Median influence.
Hey do you guys realize that while Hinduism Which ain’t even a religion but a blanket term thrust upon different peoples beliefs are thought to be quite older than Zoroastrianism
Star track the moon track and the sun track.. Why does that sound familiar?
Mormonism?
Zoroastrianism's hell is similar to Dante's Divine Comedy's Inferno and Purgatorio that it seems the latter is like an "update" of the former.
Mazdayana ( correct name for Zoroastrianism) originates as a sect of Iranian paganism which is similar to Germanic,Greek but specifically Slavic and Celtic paganism and Hinduism.
It is a sister religion to Vedic aryanism
There’s some that might actually enjoy this version of Hell a bit too much. 😅
(quietly deletes his pron history) 😋
Trust me bro, there is not a single soul in hell that is enjoying themselves not even the demons.
@@thickac7579 You were right that there isn't a single soul in hell.
I can't imagine myself standing right outside the persian hell gate, holding the paperwork, full option🤣
It’s amazing how much Christianity is in this.
Thank you. Your timing is excellent 🔥⚔️🧞♀️🧞♂️⚖️
Funny how both the Zoroastrian concept of Hell has specific punishments and the Book of Arda Viraf is about a man exploring Hell.
Makes me think that Dante either was inspired or it’s a case of great (and devout) minds thinking alike.
Something's that's usually overlooked is that stories travelled often, and they travelled wide.
The Divine Comedy is 50 Shades of Grey, and this is Twilight.
I knew Dante wrote the first Mary-Sue Isekai story. But also apparnetly it was fan-fiction.
The echoe of this Shoryuken of a post will tremble the very gates of reality itself!
although Zoroastrianism is so old, from 2K BC, the book of Arda Viraf is from the 9th century CE at the earliest. So if there are a lot of similarities with other religions, who influence who, if any, is hard to tell
Zoroastrians exist not just in India but also in modern day Pakistan especially the city of Karachi as well it is one of the recognized minority in modern day Iran as well... The Zoroastrians of India and Pakistan are very wealthy...
Even in its own day, I suspect, this is what you call torture porn.
Menstrual Blood: Waste discharge basically as soon as emitted or shortly after, meant to create the nutritive environment for the embryo, nutriment for a future life, regenerated at regular intervals, and discharged shortly thereafter, with or without the deliberation or intention of the woman.
Semen: At all stages full of nutrition and life force even after it has been emitted, until it begins to decay in an environment not suited for it (the testes or the womb), but the emission of which is a deliberate act of respect or disrespect for the life it might have promoted.
Odd instruments of metaphysical torture, perhaps having mainly some symbolic reference.
11:20 or practices. What if one doesn’t do anything?
What is crazy to me is that there are people who actually believe in eternal suffering in hell. I feel pity for those people who have to live in fear of eternal punishment. The fear must be terrible. Indoctrinating simple-minded people (in most cases children!) into believing in a hell concept like in this video is a crime in itself.
I know that religions use hell concepts like this to discourage "immoral" (whatever that may be, as everybody defines morals differently) behaviour but in truth, people who only do good because they fear that they would be punished otherwise are not actually good people. E.g., an atheist who is good and kind to others just because they want to is a much better person than a religious person who does it because they fear hell.
Pagan is a older, you literally said in the video
Norse and Chaldean mysteries have all the clues before a " one God" we worship only the Fire.🧞♀️🧞♂️⚖️in Leigons.
Maybe he meant the oldest religion still practiced to the current age. Maybe Hinduism is older, but Judaism wasn't probably fully established during the days of Zarathustra, still mutating from Yahwism.
@@kimeraclan3135 Zoroastraniasm is Biblical. The prophet Daniel inspired it and the 3 magi were Zoroastrians who were keeping prophetic records. Daniel is most likley Zoroaster.
@@danielanderson6933zoroastrianism is older, probably the first monotheistic religion.
@@dumspirospernwdss2036 We know Jesus is our path for salvation and his word is truth. The Bible is truth. Therefore we can say with certainty that Zoroastrianism was inspired by Israelite Monotheism, not the other way around.
Zoroastrianism
Duh
Wiraz's journey throughout heaven and hell reminds me of Dante's The Divine Comedy.
Did a little checking. It seems that there is a discrepancy as to when the prohet they called Zoaraster actually lived, either 1200 BC or 600 BC. If the former, 1200 BC, he was a contemporary, but not related to, Moses, or his people, the Israelites, but lived in Persia or in ancient Babylon. If it is the later date, Cyrene of Persia was his contemporary, and thus closer to the book of Daniel. Since scholars are still disputing when this prophet lived, nobody really knows.
Since the later makes more sense, as it seems he's more of a Nebacadnezzar era type guy with his dark brimstone and all, one can just say the later one is a follower of Zoaraster with a similar name, in the time of Nebecadnezzar, and then it works. He comes in centuries later, Daniel reads about him. Makes sense. Maybe they had several. Christianity likes naming people Chris an awful lot. :)
Thank you for sharing this old religion with us. As an Irish Pagan we are another one of the oldest that is still active in the world.
And i wish for it to exist forever.❤
Ask God to show you the truth
@@MRoque-vt9ef Done, he said that he hates you.
@@MRoque-vt9ef Done, bad news for you.
@@MRoque-vt9efwhich one?
Sounds exactly like Christianity to me. Cyrus was also in the bible as Ester's son, sooooooo.
Esther was a Jewish girl who married the Persian King. Which means the descendants have Jewish ancestry going back a millenia. Islam reaches to hate the Jews and many are probably mixed in with them over thousands of years.
These punishments as described are truly horrific. Perhaps today's society might learn something from watching this video. I believe that the ancient scholars who put these things into writing feared what would happen to society if people turned away from doing the right thing in life and wanted to put enough fear into people as to keep the fabric of their society intact. Our level of technology today, I believe, has caused far too many of us to forget the things that we need to have to keep the fabric of our society, today, intact.
20:18 well, that punishment would be hell for some, paradise for some others…
Religion is man made. 😊
Religion is Satan created. Christianity is the only practice that truly help anyone. All other religions are false, lies created by satan to do exactly what they are doing…confusing people straight into the gates of hell. It’s truly sad. Ask God to show you the truth. He will.
And to controlo others especially zoroastianism/abrahamic faiths who terrorize you with hell since childhood if you dont follow them
Spirituality is not frequencies exist and so do things we cannot see nor explain
What is man made of ?
@@petrospetromixos6962 Dude, the Zoroastrian afterlife is decided based on your deeds, NOT weather or not you follow the religion.
There are a couple religions that outdates this religion that are still believed.
The far older religions than that are no longer believed.
Just to correct a bit:
1. 4:27 you said it is believed to be a place of fire, when that is logically far from the truth, as the fire is a good thing in itself. It is much more likely to be a place covered in ice, as the extreme cold is one of the powers of Angra Mainyu. Book of Arda Viraz may have (I don't remember actually) explained it as a place of fire, although I advise to take it with a grain of salt, elaborated in point 3.
2. Hell is not eternal, as our God wants everyone to be happy, and achieve Ushta, thus the concept of "Hell", or rather "House of Lies", as originally called, is NOT eternal. Nor is heaven, actually, as after Frashokereti (the "Judgment Day") everyone will be cleansed from all evil, and later on they will reunite. You can read about it in chapter 30 of the Bundahishn (most prominently 30:27,29).
3. Although the Book of Arda Viraz is sometimes considered holy in Zoroastrianism (there are disputes whether for example honor Videvdat, or Bundahishn even; there are some Zoroastrians that honor only Gathas) it was, as you said, most possibly written in IX century CE in a Muslim majority (for 150+ years already) country. It is very likely to have adopted some ideas from Muslims and Christians.
4. The book wouldn't really be a warning "that if one does not embrace God [...] they will pay for it dearly in the long run", as you said in 22:24, as Zoroastrianism does not condemn people who did not believe in it. They will pay dearly, of course, but for their deeds that do not have much to do with their beliefs, as a moral compass exists in every single human, according to the Avesta.
Have a great day!
This is cool
THE OLDEST RELIGION IS THAT OF THE ANCIENT SUMERIANS dated to around 4,500 b.c, There were civilization before that "we have been here over 450,000 year's" yet with mother earth going through her cycles we have been finding civilizations millions of years older than that "thanks to the powers that be and the agenda of the abrahamic religions and the smithsonian" soon will be publically known
Lmmfao, a Smithsonian conspiracy theorist
Errrrrrr um you’re kinda making me laugh too bc you’ve heard one or two cool law of attraction woke shorts and instead of doing real research you believe and then ignorantly form ideas so I’ll start here homo sapien sapien has been around for around 200,000 years ok then about earth cycles. Did you hear about the yuga cycles in India. Finally the idea that there were civilizations before ours is a product of something called the Silurian hypothesis where a couple a scientists said it could maybe be possible the silurians were an ancient race in hibernation from the TV show dr Who. Funny thing you would be down right surprised about how much the Jews Christian’s and Muslims really don’t know shit about shit. So this leaves you stupid
Maybe he's referring specifically to monotheism? Because your absolutely correct that Sumerian religion is older
@@Hakar17 my guy what Sumerian religion exactly do you know what gods they worshipped? Where they worshipped? The times? Have you researched the possible times they celebrated as holidays? If I were to mention the name ziasudra would you recognize it? Have you ever taken a look at something abbreviated SKL? It’s the Sumerian kings list some of these dudes ruled for crazy time my point I’ll get at in a second but it’s like true erudition and logical reasoning have gone out the door with you young heads I worry about you guys bc Jesus you don’t even have to crack the spine on a book what’s a book? You ask it’s hard to explain they went the way of the cd player or the fabled Walkman what I’m saying though is don’t all you kids have phones in your pockets most of them connect to the www network all you have to do is google anything and boom ya get the answer and now with all these chat bots you really don’t even have to think anyway very long tangent for which I apologize now sorry to burst the ol’ bubble but on record the oldest monotheistic religion which does not include the good people of Sumer is the very old Persian religion Zoroastrianism which was started by a guy named Zoroaster briefly without offending anyone bc this very freaking old religion is practiced today now in Zoroastrianism there is an all pervading good force known as Ahura Mazda but there is also a counterbalancing bad force known as Arihman now you are free to follow either path but one gets u to hell the other paradise and the explanations of Zoroastrian hell and the things that get you there are heavy they make Christian’s hell seem like a spa day
Allow me to clear a little something up though so the term Hinduism is religious discrimination Hindus don’t exist see what we call Hinduism was a term coined by our friends in England now why would I bring this up well first what we call hinduism is six distinct schools of thought with many sub schools and practices soo many gods with different devotees and doctrines a joke that I think they may be kinda serious about is there are over a million gods my point is these schools all share certain uniting beliefs religious texts etc now my friend no one knows when exactly the war loving aryans brought these practices to the subcontinent but I can assure you it was before our good friends in Sumer wedged the Enuma Elish so no our friend Joe is not ABSOLUTELY corrrect but gets a B plus for the sheer fact of sticking it to the Smithsonian
Now I really have to clear something up that’s been bothering me for years there is no such thing as the annunaki back in the day the people called them the Annuna which translates as those in heaven our good friend Zachariah Sitchin added the ki to conveniently change the translation to those who from heaven came to earth to fit his whacky nibiru theories. Also places like this and tik tok are rampant with just plain false disinformation misinformation and dangerous information in my opinion the most dangerous virus that infects and festers in mankind are not things like AIDS or Ebola or the the dreaded SARS-CoV-2 virus 🦠 nope the virus I speak of needs special treatments that most people can’t handle the virus is ignorance but the only antivirals that work on this are books good music detachment for your dopaminergic hit evertime someone subscribes to your whatever or hearts your comment. You people believe you’re not at base reality a simulation a matrix of sorts problem is this whole idea was touted by moronic English philosopher Nick Bostrom then Elon jumped on then my favorite imbecile Neil degrasse Tyson here’s the rub my millennial and gen z friends we are truly caught in a matrix but all but a few people have been misreading it’s coding properly and therefore we can’t begin to free ourselves until we learn an extremely old yet basic coding language this code is what generates the heartbeat of our universe and when we discover this code we see it everywhere we find the truth about the prison we are all in but we aren’t stuck just delayed for a nefarious reason But we can definitely move on when ever we feel. The need. So I’m sorry if I came off a little sarcastic it’s just that I don’t understand the loss of facts in replacement for this Billy Carson led post ancient aliens age of Aquarius shit youknow? Anyway I apologize for my blunt straight forward approach it’s nothing personal at all I don’t think you’re an idiot actually the opposite you were making cogent statements based on the info you had at the time😀
@@kadmusfoogs That's my point Sumerian is older then Zorsstirinism but Sumerian was poltythiestsic. I was just trying to speculate about the videos title
I've ran across a number of people claiming humans can unwittingly create "thought forms" which are autonomous beings created from some kind of collective mental energy. They supposedly exist on the "astral plane"and they can account for humans encountering ghosts and demons. I don't think any of that is true and how any of them managed to come by their information but it's an interesting parallel between what happens in Zoroastrianism, with the biggest difference is that in the religion they're personal and tied to one person instead of requiring many people to create them.
Allen Moore wrote a line for Alec Holland in the 1980 Swamp Thing Run. The soul of Alec Holland in heaven says, "There are no strangers in heaven. It's far too small for that." When Swamp thing starts to make his way through hell, the Phantom Stranger says, "There are no friends or allies here. It's far too big for that".
Apparently I'm not the only one who thought even just from the summary that some of this can be taken as religions parodying one another in the modern sense/spilling irony/quirky meme didnt work out
"One of the oldest organized religions in history" is a bold bold claim. I can name 3 much much older off the top of my head.
But the oldest monotheistic one (=one God)
Please tell us one
Zoroasterism was along side Jewish religion for a time, also I’m sure it interwoven somehow. It’s actually technically biblical by historical markers of Bible history.
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Like old Biff said “there’s something very familiar about all this.”
Halvah is tasty 😋
Is Paganism not a religion?
More like an umbrella term for any pre monotheistic religion. Norse paganism, Germanic paganism, Celtic, Dacian, Wicca, Greek paganism, are all types of religions, but not the ONE and ONLY pagan faith.
@@kimeraclan3135 Then how is Zoroastrianism the oldest religion?
@@Ranger1812 I meant that it is probably the oldest monotheistic religion still practiced to this day. 3509 BC predates Hassidic Judaism and Christianity by at least two millenia and Islam by two millenia and three-to-four centuries, give or take. Again, it is likely the oldest monotheistic religion.
@@kimeraclan3135 I know, but the title of the video simply states that it is the oldest religion, not the oldest monotheistic religion.
@@kimeraclan3135Wicca isn’t pre-monotheism lol. It was invented after the aeroplane