Summer vs Winter vs All Season - What Tires Should You Buy?
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There are a lot of options available when buying new tires, and one of the decisions you need to make is the type of tire you plan to buy: summer, all-season, or winter. What's the difference between these tires? You may be surprised to find out that all-seasons don't tend to be the best tires for many situations, rather that they're a compromise between summer and winter tires. You might also be surprised to learn that summer tires tend to perform the best in the rain. Which tires are best for you? Check out the video and learn, depending on where you live, what the best option may be for your individual driving climate and performance preferences.
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So weird to hear debates over winter tires. Up here in Quebec, winter tires are mandatory from november to april
People are cheap and value funny things. Cheap pair of junky all-seasons, oh that's good enough. Then thrown down 1 grand on the new smart phone.
UK is a funny one because down south winter tyres are completely unnecessary 360 days a year whereas in Scotland in winter you are going to struggle without them. You get 10 Celsius difference just going 400 miles North so the UK can't really mandate winter tyres because it would penalise people in the south.
Nick DesRosiers They aren't mandatory lol, all-season tires work fine in the winter. Maybe the issue is Canadians don't know how to drive?
When you try all-seaons tires in the winter, and then try new winter tires in the winter, you'll no longer thing the all-seasons work fine in the winter.
Pill. You nailed it! Canucks & driving, not a good combo.
Another note: I live in a place with hot summers and wet, slushy winters. There is a 4th type called the *all-WEATHER* tire that is basically an all-season that tends closer to the winter side of tread and compound. They will often have a "three peak mountain snowflake" badge to show they are designed for somewhat severe winter conditions, but not to the level of a dedicated winter tire. Confusing! But good to know.
Next someone has to explain what all the "high performance grand standard touring luxury premium" gobbledygook actually means. 😂
Another great video from TiresExplained!
Basically haha, wait it’s obvious to you guys too that I’m tire obsessed?
Engineering Explained yeah, but it's okay. I'm not getting "tire-d" of it anytime soon. (;
I bought a car for 1200 and I'm going to put 1500 worth of wheels and tires on it. Because grip.
sounds like a miata to me
andriolo mx6 GT turbo
i watched a video somewhere here on youtube. i dont recall which one. one of those nerdy type guys babbling on about engineering stuff. you know the type. anyway, he proposed that tires were the best performance mod you could make to your car.
had the science and everything.
SirSquash I'll give you 1000 for it
good idea. They are the only thing between your car and the road :) have fun.
I have been in the tire/tyre industry for about 15 years and I have to say this is a great intro to understanding tires. Well Done. The number one problem people and tires/tyres is Air Pressure! For the average person they rarely check it. Please check it once a month. It better to check it once a week or when going through changes e.g. ... weather changes, climate changes, weight changes, hauling/towing changes, vehicle setup changes, or different use cases. You will save on m.p.g. (gas) - get longer life out of the tires - better handling (safety) e.g. stopping and cornering.
Hungrystudent101 what would you say is a good tire for a Nissan Sentra 2014 for someone who lives in Florida?
@@bea3130 the same tire we'd use here in Alabama. All season for cars and all terrain for trucks since the season changes once a week. Lol
theory816 lots of gas stations have free air for your tires. Just fill them to your manufacture recommended amount located in your driver doorway sticker. Can also use a manual tire pressure gauge.
I have 2014 dodge charger r/t 5.7l hemi ane What would you advice me for rainy and sunny days?
Bro we got tpms. No need to check that shits
Literally was about to go buy tires and this video pops up
Dcoy - Not to be paranoid, but I would not be surprised if Android and Apple smart phones are always listening. The phones could pick up on key words and use that in targeted advertising.
I've been noticing targeted advertising on things I've verbally spoken about, but never searched for. It really makes me wonder if we have willingly given up our privacy to big companies for the sake of technology, progress, and convenience.
Uberragen21 I've noticed that too, im not paranoid but it's very privacy intrusive, i read that it happens a lot to mothers-to-be where they just got pregnant and every website throws them baby ads.
Dcoy Targeted ads are crazy smart these days.
Dcoy - Scary when you think about it.
I was talking with my fiancee about ideas for our wedding and then I picked up my phone and soon as I opened my news feed, Google ads showed exactly what we were just talking about.
Google tends not to talk about it much but they have a lot of methods to gather loads of data to sell. Have an Android phone, use Chrome, or even watching CZcams? They technically could harvest data from anything you say, type, or do in those platforms. It can get pretty creepy.
Get slicks because race car!
lasagna bloke Pro Tip: drive any tyre long enough and they turn into slicks 😎
Detailing Diaries 😂🤣 BIG facts!
Guess you could say my Vauxhall’s Corsa is reppin slicks on the front at the moment then...
lasagna bloke do I suspect a suspended drivers license?
Best reason yet!
One thing that irritates me working a dealership is people who refuse to change out snow tires in the middle of summer. These tires are only good for temperatures below 40F and wear out badly in summer. You might as well burn $100 bills.
Agreed! And the performance of the winter tires in summer conditions is also poor.
Burning $100 bills is a good way to heat your home in winter, though.
It's a current practice to "finish off" winter tires during the summer when you know they won't make it through the next winter. It can save wear on your summer/all-season set. They'll still perform poorly though...
lajya01 Except when the person then requests Bridgestone Blizzack tires, in the middle of summer.
Ratkill9000 yep, even here is plenty of car (mostly but not only SUV) with winter tires even during Summer, despite temperature always over 30 C
A set of good summer tires, and good winter tires is the way to go. ....imo.
And if living in areas with snowy winters, tires with studs is my choice.
John Grytbakk depends where you live. Summer tires are the best year round for where I live.
agreed, I would drive in snow 0-2 days per year, so all year summer tires would be the best choice IMO. I wouldn't be bothered to switch to winter tires for 1 day and all seasons are always mediocre.
Studded tires not legal in most US states.
John Ridley if there's regular snow and studded snow tires are really illegal, that's ridiculous.
Not just for snow. The summer compounds harden when it gets too cold
Man I'm glad I only need summer tyres where I live.
logan thompson - Me too, but I'm waiting to wear out the craptastic factory tires before dropping $800 on new summer rubber. I loved the Continental summer rubber I had on my old car. It *absolutely* changed the way the car behaved.
Same
me too
its so rare to see snow here in israel
I would love to run summer rubber every day of the week. Too bad I had to switch to A/S rubber because of the whole drifting thing when the temps hit 45>. :(
I envy you....
I have almost 5 months of cold weather season :-(
Great video! I live in Arizona with no snow and little rain and they try to sell all season tires all the time. I will be getting summer tires from now on 👍🏻
Living in Canada, we call "all season" tires "3 season" tires. Using all-season tires in winter is a recipe for an accident
Jonathan Matthews I live in the Northeastern U.S. and I've never had a problem with all-season tires even in the coldest and snowiest conditions. You just have to drive carefully.
Pill Cosby I also am from the North East and I used to "get by" with all seasons. Then I bought my first set of winter tires and I'll never go back. Your right about carefully driving though. I had a mustang that I was forced to drive one winter with all seasons and I never got stuck!
Pill Cosby ... there you are again spouting your lack of wisdom.
Winter tires are for sissies. Run summers all winter long
driving carefully won't help you when something sudden happens that you can't foresee. someone or something rushing onto the street out of nowhere for example. even if you react fast, your all seasons won't provide you with enough grip to properly transfer your input to the road.
So basically if you live in a country where it snows once a decade but rains a lot and has quite warm summers, you're better off going Summer tires all year...
TheFPSPower that's what it seems like what's being recommended.
Many summer tires specifically say not to drive on them in heavy rain...or at least some, maybe not many.
I´d call that crappy summer tires. At least here there is even a rating for wet performance
If they say not use in rainy weather then do not buy. That is a shitty brand.
Some say use caution in rain because they're road-legal competition tires that have very few tread features to maximize dry grip. How do people not know that's a thing? I've got Nitto NT01 tires and while they look like they'd be acceptable at evacuating rain, I wouldn't go out looking for rain to drive them in. They say "Recommended for competition events only" on the side, and you can tell why just by feeling the compound.
I prefer All-season, medium rare -steaks- tires.
I buy tires based on which tread I think looks the coolest 😎
Good tires are about safety, then again, I support Darwinism.
Nothing wrong with that... cool tire thread usually high performance tires.
Yup, I buy tires by how they look. Pilot 4s looked most bling so bought them
Yokohama advan neova AD08R
😂 me too
Good job on explaining the difference between these tires. Good video over all. Good job!
Good comment!
Maybe, just maybe, more people will realize that there are in fact, different tires for different seasons! Period! Spend a couple of bucks people, it might save your life!
Thanks for this vids as even more proof. 👍🏼👍🏼
I live in Texas. I never have these issues.
Exactly. If you live in Texas then summer or all-season are fine all year. Don't get much snow, or many days below 50.
Yeah as soon as you live in temperate climate you absolutely should have winter tires. I get that further south you can get away with it but in Canada it's near suicide to not have them in my opinion. I've scared myself even with the grippiest of winter tires so...
@@karlehamel I live in a temperate climate but it rarely gets below freezing, rains often, etc. Winter tires would be pretty pointless here.
Depends where you live. If you live where you need winter tires then yes you should have them. If you don’t then you don’t
I'm planning on doing all seasons and winters. It's hard to tell when to switch to and from winters here in WI.
Switch to winter tires from summer tires when the temperatures start dropping to 45 degrees and below. Very easy to tell.
At 45f summer tire compound gets stiff and does not perform anymore.
Live in Phoenix, but travel up north often. I only run one set of tires so all season fits best for me.
I'm so broke I only buy used tires for years never had an issue lol.
android 25 I've played Russian roulette for years and never lost lol
there is cheap good tires now tho i bought 4 for 250 dollars and amazing tires that I bought online. I drove 70mph in heavy rain and had no loss of control. I have had them for several months and still look brand new.
I just got a pair of Goodyear eagle sports from a junk yard, with 85% tread still remaining, mounted and balanced them, haven't had any issues. There's nothing wrong with using used tires. There's a shop near where I live, they sell used tires only. It is really convenient to buy used tires for your spare in the back too, if yours becomes flat or rotted
One thing to look out for is the date codes on the tires. That will tell you what week of what year they were manufactured. Anything over 5 years old is iffy, and as you get toward 10 years the tire compound degradation can make them super dangerous and unpredictable.
android 25 as if we would hear from you if you did have an issue.
I make my own tires from duct tape. Super reliable, never got one flat in my entire life!
NieJestemzPolskiPL Damn right
Smart
Nor traction
Plus you always have duct tape with you in case you need some in an emergency- say a rollover or a blown engine!
I saw duct tape repair to toilet roll holder in B&Q once.. if it is good enough for B&Q...
Here winter tires are mandatory. The best is summer tires for summer and winter tires for winter. Generally don’t like the so called All Season Tires. All season tire really sucks in winter. Yeah if you living in a place and have 5 days of snow per winter All Season will be ok. But by -10C they become hard as plastic and supper slippery.
Depends on how good of a driver you are. I run all season tires and midwest winters are unpredictable and I do just fine. But I know how to drive properly in winter. I drop the speed down 10mph on posted signs or more and I keep more distance between myself and the one in front of me.
"Here winter tires are mandatory."
"Depends on how good of a driver you are."
Lifted_Above there are different quality tires especially all season that do well.
"Here winter tires are mandatory."
Lifted_Above lol like an American NewYorker driver.
Living in Phoenix I run summer tires year round and love it
I'm using summer and winter tires now for the first time instead of all-season and it's striking how much softer and more jelly-like the handling is on the winter tyres is (car is Subaru Levorg). It goes from nice and sharp to floaty boaty when I change tyres in the winter :P
I live in the Pacific Northwest (Eugene Oregon) and I always thought that all-seasons were the best because it rains so often here with wildly varying temperatures. But after watching this I'm realizing that summer tires year-round may be my best bet. Great video!
Living in San Diego id rock summer tires all year long because it never gets colder than 50 degrees 💀and it never rains
I'll just share my experience. When I used to swap winter/summer tires every season, i had few annoying issues:
- Nowhere to store them, had to drive 150km to my parents because they have a house and garage so I stored my tires there. Every time I had to change them I had to plan to go to my parents.
- Had to pay for them to be changed.
- You have to plan it and spend some time to change, sometimes had to get out from work, annoying.
- One year there was a drastic change in weather, somewhere near the end of the summer, temperatures suddenly dropped below zero C and it started snowing, it was a strange weather and I was left with summer tires, needless to say they performed ultra terrible, I had to drive way under speed limit.
I decided to try all season, just for experiment.
- Bought 4 x GoodYear Vector 4 (all season). (About $75 / tire).
- NEVER changed them or even rotate them (If I had to rotate them I might as well change, I decided not to, even when I understand the benefits of rotation, I decided not to, to see what will happen).
Exactly today is the full 4 years of usage, 76.000km traveled, during winters and summers, snow, ice and blazing heats of summer, never had any issues with them. From time to time I have put them to the test, when road is icy I floor it in 2nd gear and see how they hold, pretty good. Then I get up to speed limit, pick some object in front of me 40-50m (Usually some traffic sign), and try to imagine that person is there, then apply full brakes and see if I manage to stop, I was pleasently surprized how well they worked and always stopped way before even getting to that object. Of course I have done it on open roads when there were no cars in front or back of me. I was happy.
Today the time has come, my car has finally failed on inspection for registration due to worn out front tires (Back tires are still fine). Since it's a FWD car, and I didn't do any rotation, it makes sense. So what I did is get 2 new front tires (Again all season), my car passed registration, and now I'm analyzing my experience with all season tires. To me it really makes sense to use all season if:
- You drive mostly in areas which have no major snowfall, and even if it does it's cleaned quickly (Urban / City /Highway).
- You don't drive agressively or take your car to the limits, and be more careful when conditions are bad.
- Your car is not very powerful (Mine is 90 HP).
So my conclusion is that for me all season tires are the best choice, they are convenient, work decently well and you don't need to think about it twice a year. Just change it every 4 years and forget about it unitl they fail on registration. I will not go back to Winter/Summer, but maybe some people will have more reasons to do it. For me, this is perfect :)
RWD high horsepower car is a different story. if it's your daily driver, All Seasons will get you into a wreck in the winter.
I don't think there's a way around not going with winter tires on RWD 500+ HP Cars.
Same. I live in Ohio and it gets cold here in the winter and we do get snow sometimes and sometimes not much other times lots of it. I’ve always only drove with all season tires
All season tires are useless in the winter where I live.
@@steve8803 same, you'll literally get in a wreck or get stranded, winter tires are mandatory
@@poopscoop5836 where do you live? I'm sure if you just drive cautiously you'll be fine
I have learned a lot today. Thank you for sharing.
Always appreciate your videos Jason! Could you please do a video on "all weather" tires with mud and snow symbols?
Where was this video 5 days ago when I ordered my Pirelli P Zero A/S+
I run winter tires from when the snow starts falling until the heavy snow falls stop. Winter tires aren't law in Ontario yet, but they sure make a hell of a difference when you drive alot. The extra control and confidence behind the wheel let you focus on driving and not worrying that your shitty tires are going to let you down. I run a long tread life all-season for the rest of the year as I might see some light snow and/or cold weather before and after winter. I use summer tires on my summer (fun) car though, as it's never going to see cold weather.
Again a perfect short video that gives you the true facts and information without the sh1t
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've always been a summer/ winter tire driver. When I swapped my summer Continental Extremecontact to Continental Extremecontact DWS 06, I was so impressed with it and I have kept DWS and handling is still great!
Great for the Acura TL Types models as well.
I just don't use tires.
Connor Atchley Flinstones
Anyone who lives in the snowier areas of the country who has not driven in the snow with winter tires really needs to, they are that much better.
so basically, you need 8 wheels.
Unless you have a spare wheel in your car: Then you need 9 ;-)
Yes
almarjyou - Not necessarily. When I lived in the upper midwest (USA) I had two winter tires but no extra wheels. I just had a shop swap tires twice a year. I only did that for the drive wheels. It made a huge difference.
I ran a track event in my G37S last August in the pouring rain. I was astounded at how much grip was available from Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I was the fastest car in the advanced group until the rain quit just before my final session and the track started drying. Then I was mid-pack as the guys with D.O.T. race tires started to shine.
Buying two sets of tires doesn't cost any extra money because you're only driving one set at a time, so, the time to replace any of those two sets is much longer.
Personally I'd go with two sets because an all-season tire is bad for all seasons.
As someone who has grown up where it rarely gets below freezing once a year. I did not realise winter tyres were so soft.
Also how do all terrains handle the snow and ice?
me217 it honestly depends on the different tire models. There are some that are pretty decent in the snow and others that are basically useless. For an all terrain tire that will see snowy conditions, look for lots of siping In the tread blocks, as well as enough spacing between the tread blocks for snow to pack. The Dean Backcountry is a good example of this.
What Matt said is pretty much spot on. I use General Grabber AT2s on my XJ Cherokee and am very happy with their snow performance. Lots of siping. Full mud tires are about as useless on snow and ice as summer tires. There's just no siping. Notice how it's always Jeep guys or brodozers with mudders who are in the ditch when it snows?
winter tires are only that soft at room temperature, they harden when they're at the temperature they're designed for.
Some all terrains doesn't handle snow and ice well at all. DOn't expect them to do so anyway. The rubber blend is probably too hard.
In Norway it has become a problem that EU seems to have approved "mud tires" for winter use.
Now you should do one on directional vs asymmetrical winter tires
Best tires I ever put on my car (and the most expensive too, sadly) was a set of Nokian WRG3s. Fantastic tire! Super grippy in any weather, and very comfortable.
I can't believe you didn't cover all weather.
? Same thing as all season yes?
can't believe you fall for marketing so easily
@@vk2461 it's definitely not just marketing. They perform better than all season tires. I have all seasons now and they're terrible in snow.
Why am I here? We don't even have winter
4 wheels, 4 seasons; 4 different tyres!
Please include metric units aswell
Agree, it's would be easier to understand for non American viewer,
Helmi MuZa not only that the us is currently learning imperial and metric on schools. It's best they go all out to metric like the rest of the world does.
No
Flightboss33 LOL
Dave Dörenberg-Veltman I am American and I agree. We try pushing it but no one actually wants to adapt it lmao
Yes ! The tires ! So exciting !
Johnny Yu Wow! Must be...you even took the time to comment.
The interesting thin about the All Season tires is that they are better than both winter and summer tires for a moderate winters without or with just a little bit of snow, as it does not squirm that much and it is better at breaking and handling when wet. Also the steering feel should be better because of that.
Not a single mention of studded tires? I live in inland south-eastern Norway (in the region of the 1994 Lillehammer Olympics), and during the winter months (October-April) there's about a 50/50 distribution of studded and studless tires.
In dry, relatively cold conditions, studded and studless tires perform about the same. Studless, however, behaves close to summer tires if the temperatures rise above freezing. A couple of days each winter we also get sudden rain showers despite it being almost -10 °C (14 °F).
The choice of studded vs studless mostly comes down to preference. Studded makes a fair bit more noise, especially on dry pavement, where they also contribute heavily to particulates and dust in the surrounding air.
The usable lifetime of studded and studless tires are about the same, but the studs on studded tires typically wears faster than the rubber, resulting in a faster initial decline in grip.
I'd love to see a follow-up video including studded tires! My personal choice, going every winter for the last 10 years, are Nokian Hakkapeliita tires. I usually mount the previous winter's front wheels on the rear, and buy a fresh pair for the front.
Oh and one last thing; if the summer tires you showed in the video was from the car that is ("was" now) running winter tires, does this mean you only have one set of rims? That is really really rare in Norway, i have never heard of anyone not having their winter tires on their separate rim set. It is also pretty common to run a smaller rim size with comparatively larger height ratio. My VW has 225/55-17 summer, 205/65-16 winter (i think?)
So for rainy season like in the equatorial region where there no snow at all, summer tyre is good for all seasons right !! ?
Summer is great in rain, yes.
Nearly new tyres and they are winter tyres and they are horrible feels like I'm driving a Nissan Micra there is practically no grip (loss of Traction around corners or roundabouts and about half the braking force before ABS is kicking on the front wheels and that's before we get too wet conditions) I am going to go back tomorrow and change them for summer or anything that's not winter tyres
lee x Winter tires are for winter only, genius.
If you're not somewhere that never freezes, either get two sets and switch in fall/spring or get all seasons.
Generally the transition point between a summer and winter tyre compound is 7C. If it is hotter than that year round a summer will be by far the best performer.
Yes, because the ice/snow features in an "all-season" tire aren't needed in tropical regions. Actually, you may lose more money by using all-season tires in hot climates because of the softer compound that will make them wear faster. Myself, as a Brazilian guy, never used anything but summer tires.
Don't be fooled by the category name. "All-season" just means it can cross more weather conditions than specialized tires and makes no sense to countries in polar regions (permanent snow) or tropical regions (never snows).
I used to swap between my studded snow tires on the winter and my all terrain tires rest of the year. Now I just leave the tires on different cars and swap cars for different seasons.
stonks
Having a car sit unused is not good for it, but I guess money isn't a problem for you
@@FSXgta Neither of my cars are worth much more than $1000 each. The tires are almost worth more than the car. 😁
If you have enough money, buy both winter and summer and switch them out each season
Swapping winter to summer tires doesn't work well in Chinook country. The cold and snow can disappear overnight for a week or more, several times during winter, and return to blizzard conditions again. So it's All Seasons only way to go..
curious to know how much extra wear would be added to winter tires if you use them during non-winter seasons too.
Everyone saying "All season's are useless" really don't understand what compromise means. Not everyone has the time/money/space to have both summer and winter tires. New Gen all seasons will be sufficient for most people, especially those who live in seasonal climates
I live in a weather similar to UK or Germany, rain all year and warm summer(up to 30ºC). problem is that the weather is so weird that you have all seasons in just one day, in the morning you can get -4ºC with Ice rain, then sunny at mid-day with 14-25ºC, then very hey rainstorm at afternoon and clear weather at night. any tire recommended for this kind of weather? car is a 2ton Mercedes Benz 260E from 1986(it has ABS)
I have an Opel Combo Tour, 1.7 diesel. It takes me from UK-Spain in the spring, back in the autumn. I can't pull over halfway back and change 4 wheels. I've fitted Nexen N Blue 4 Season. They've been good in the dry heat and also in a heavy downpour, without excessive wear. They haven't been exposed to cold conditions yet, maybe on my return across the Pyrenees, next month. I'll try to remember to report back. Press reviews are good - the Michelin Cross Climates are more expensive and more summer-biased. I don't know if the Nexens are in your size, sorry.
@@dizzyonaball4623 Update on the Nexens?
@@johndoe-fy6jz They took me back through Spain and France in November well. Still didn't get severe weather, but grip on the twists in the Pyrenees was good. Also good in cold rain of NW England. Wish I could have tried them in the recent snow, but the battery's flattened and I won't replace it until the spring. That said, the summer tyres on my other car only spun mildly under 1st gear acceleration so not a big test anyway. Noise, dry+wet grip, comfort all good and no bad signs from standing a few months in the cold.
@@dizzyonaball4623 Have them as well on Octavia 1st gen diesel. Drove them through the UK also all the way to East Slovakia in the winter and all was good. I also find them good in heavy rain, they are also good in winter even though I haven't really had a chance to try them in very cold weather as temperature didn't went lower than -10°C/14°F and even temperatures below 0°C/32°F very rare whole winter in the central Europe - this really tells you why I choose 4-season tires...
Only thing I found quite bad with these Nexens is they seem to wear out quite fast - I did so far 22kkm/13.7k mil and they seems like they have only 1/3 of usable thread left (even for summer driving I prefer not to go under 4mm of thread as this really compromise handling in the rain with my car). I drive lightly (big old 90hp diesel estate) and in 95% just on my own in the car without any heavy luggage.
This needs an update to include the new "All-Weather" style. All-Weather tires will have a 2 peak mountain outline with a snowflake in it. Better in snow than standard all season.
You should also mention the difference between ASymmetrical and Directional tires.
I would love to have dedicated summer and winter tires. However the expense and time of new wheels, TPMS sensors and have to go to the dealer to have have the computer reset for the new TPMS codes every 6 months is nuts.
All weather are just winter tyres with a higher speed rating.
3 peak
In Finland we have this thing called "nastarengas." Large amount of small metal studs that gives traction on icy roads.
Those are illegal in a lot of places though because they destroy the roads.
Living in Pittsburgh, I'll look into your strategy of using two sets of tires.
Would definitely recommend it for places that get real snow!
Great video as always, one slight correction. The advantage the summer tyre has in dry and wet braking is down to block movement rather than the compound. Once all season and winter tyres are worn to nearly the legal limit they often match a worn summer tyres braking, and sometimes even beat it due to the softer compounds they use. There's currently no way of getting a siped tyre matching a non-siped tyre in braking, even with fancy things like locking sipes.
hi tyre rewievs. which at this video all season tires brand?
I think it depends where you live,
Helmi MuZa in the UK no one has winter tyres
Detailing Diaries at least you get some snow
All season because i live in an Appartement
DOn't you have tyre hotel in your town?
I myself use Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for daily and Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R for 4 A.M tofu delivery
I never knew there was such a thing a "winter tires" until these videos, they don't even sell winter tires in FL.
Jeff Liggett wtf in finland we need to change to winter tires and summer tires because law and if u dont change u get ticket
Here in Florida we can use summer tires all year. Actually, it would be silly to use anything else, because it never snows here. And temperatures rarely go below 0°C.
There is a reason for that.
Jeff Liggett Where I live changing between summer and winter tires is taken for granted because everyone does it, so for us it's instead unimaginable *not* knowing what winter tires are lol. One thing I'm wondering then is, when do you guys rotate your tires if you don't ever need to change to a second pair? Is that even a thing most people do, or do you just change when they get worn? I'm genuinely curious, as everyone where I live does it while changing between sets.
In southern UK nobody uses winter tyres because snow is rare and also there is little of it. Not worth it for 1 week if lucky, Scotland however there is a need for winter tyres.
You forgot to mention that winter tires are not only for snow and ice. When -30 to -40F on dry, cleaned of snow roads, the winter tire stops and handles a lot better than a summer tire. Often people think and write in the comments that summer tires will be better on dry very cold road.
Summer tyres are better on cold, dry roads. Winter tyres are better on wet roads (and snow of course)
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I don’t think that’s correct. I think cold and dry still goes to winter.
i honestly found the most informative part to be where you pressed on the winter tire showing us how soft it is instead of simply saying oh its softer like others do
We have temperature swings from like 20F to 70F inside of a week where I am so I just run all seasons year round.
If I had the money for extra tires, I'd probably go summer from about March to October, and all seasons over the winter.
Annie Worroll ... look into “all weather” tires. Not quite winter but far superior to all season with better tread life for all year round use.
I have a 2002 grand prix gt, and have a set of dedicated winter and summer tires. The winter tires make all the difference in the world I can get through snow better than most trucks and safely do the speed limit in a snow storm with an extremely generous ammount of stopping grip. If you dont have snow tires, GET THEM. But make sure you have a set of summer ones too! I live in Detroit, MI by the way.
Living in Detroit makes you invest in a winter vehicle smh ✋quilty
I used to have a 2000 Grand Prix GT. My winter tires were Toyo Observes and I haven't had a FWD car before or since that was as good in the snow as that Pontiac. Having a big cast iron v6 over the drive wheels seems to give great traction!
You are a genius not because you know literally everything, but because you can somehow make boring things interesting
So when do you change tires? At what temp do you change tires?
Only when it goes pop flat. Then left for a little spare that's too small and skinny.
When it snows. But generally I do an oil change every six months with the Crosstrek, so I switch to winter tires at the same time. Typically around late October, and then switch back after winter ends, April-ish.
Know thy tire! For example, Pirelli P Zeroes are only good down to 45 deg Farenheit. So it is important to take them off when you will be driving them in temperatures lower than that...
Trenton Westphal Where I live in Sweden we usually put them on in late October, though sometimes earlier if the snow is early lol. Then they stay on until late Mars/mid April depending on how persistent the cold is. Basically, when the weather constantly sits below ~6°C and there's a risk of snow or ice the winter's are on, so for a pretty long time. :/
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All depends on where you live. I'm in Birmingham, AL & drive around 50k miles per year. I wear Michilen Premier A/S all year long & only switch to Michilen X-Ice tires when there is consistently a sub 35°high temp throughout the day. They're a little louder when it's dry, but they're a life saver when the day we actually get some snow or even just icy slush from rain+31° Temps...
My dealership is trying to convince me to get All-Seasons in FL because they last longer. Should I just get Summers instead?
Personally I would get summers if you never have snow/ice. Summers are going to offer better performance, and as a result, safety. They might not last as long as all-seasons, but when you need to slam the brakes they're going to stop you faster.
All seasons have their pros. If you travel to northern states in winter season regularly, all season tire with extra summer performace is a good option. If you spend all of your time in southern Florida, long lasting wet performance summer tire should be the best option. Judging from your comment, if you've never driven on a winter condition and hit it with summer tires, you will get into an accident within the first hour. It's nice to be prepared if you ever see winter condition.
Honestly, some all season tires apparently out perform some summer tires, so it really depends on the exact rubber we're talking. I threw on some pilot sport a/s3+ tires on my Lancer gts to replace the old pirelli neros I've had two sets of, and they immediately feel better. They behave a lot better as well. I'm open to it being a bit of hogwash, but they appear to beat out summer tires on both wet and dry braking tests even. You really gotta do your research on the specific tires and see what your options and budget allow.
metaleggman18 unless the temp is below 40 the Michelin PSS and PS4S would outperform your PS A/S3+ in every handling scenario, dry or wet.
Rotchild Francois Jr Unless you live in the Keys, truth be told, no. All-season tires cover enough of the weather changes experienced to preclude any potential need for other tires. Basing this on experience. I lived in Fort Lauderdale and Jacksonville and found a/s to be the ideal solution. Living in Arkansas now and will not buy anything else as long as the performances of a/s tires remain consistent.
"On snow and ice" - The ONLY thing that will grip on ice are studs. No rubber will provide any decent traction on ice.
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@@pvb9964 Legal in some locales. Quebec and northern Ontario allow studs.
@@pvb9964 they're legal in some states. Both of the main states I've spent a good portion of my life they are completely unrestricted. That being Wyoming and Colorado. They're VERY helpful, Wyoming has some straight nasty winters and tons of people driving to work 50 plus miles on highways during blizzards.
Or become an alpha male and roll with slicks in the winter...
Try running ultra high performance summer tires on a 1/2" of slush and ice. You'll never do it again. Being able to spin up the tires in 4th gear on a low-torque FWD 4-banger at 50 mph isn't a good time.
Or try stopping on ultra high performance summer tires on dry day but below freezing temperature.
Suddenly needing 50% or more stopping distance isn't a good time.
Not advisable at all, that's for sure. Yet, driving on a hockey rink for 80 miles is no fun.
Or be super alpha, and just drive on the rims.
The Infidel I’m kinda doing that right now. My tires are so damn bald I might as well be on slicks 😂 horribly slidey on the ice and snow that’s out right now.
All season tires will be my next option.
Literally looking for tires foe my s2000. And then I see the car used in this video.......a Honda S2000
If people drove appropriately for the conditions, it really wouldn't matter as much if you have all-seasons. Don't want to rear-end someone? Don't drive too fast for conditions or tailgate. Don't wanna plow into something? Don't drive too fast for conditions, and turn to abruptly. Know what your tires and car can handle, don't drive like a moron, know your alternate routes, and pick a solid well performing all season; Not the cheapest set you can get your hands on. Knowing how your car and your tire behave together can go a long way .
Ryan Slemmer your driving points are valid but you obviously haven’t used winter tires or live where they aren’t necessary because no one who has will agree with you.
You are not alone on the road. If you were to drive at 40 km/h while everyone else is driving at 85 km/h, you would not fit into the traffic.
I always thought it was weird that tires didnt play an effect on insurance rates
Unless you were in an accident, and they inspected the vehicle, then how would they know? They don't have a VIN, so it's not as easy as a car is. Besides, that makes no sense. If someone causes an accident by having poor tires, then they are already penalized by their insurance, and usually get a ticket as well.
Theyd know the same way that youd provide photos if accident over email....with photos. And no tires dont have a vin number but they have a UTQG mark and load and index rating and speed rating and severe service rating if applicable amongst other identifiers. Not in the mood to debate so sorry if follow up comments or questions arent answered. Wish this was facebook so I could post my 5 michilin certifications including certified trainer and end the discussion there :) Have a great day
I'd love a discount...
They do where I live. If you put winters on in winter, you get a lower rate.
thats awesome what state or country is that?
A few years ago the local news channel had a story about a study that found that winter tires perform better in all conditions except for during the summer while not raining. If I remember correctly, the basis was that winter tires heat up more easily which produces more grip in all conditions, but in dry summer conditions they become ineffective from getting too hot. Maybe it was just a puff piece because I live in MN where everyone runs winter tires year-round, but idk.
I live in Colorado, so All-Seasons for half the year and winters for the other half
"Engineering" ... and talks fahrenheit instead of celsius... I'm out of here.
We are Americans
Agree. Engineering and SI are one. And there is a good reason. It's not a preference. Referring to anything else than SI and claiming being an engineer I bet you never actually tried to do any engineering design in your life. Americans also tend to claim being engineers when they are actually just mechanics or technicians. The sad truth. Most don't even know the difference.
How to store winter tire when it's summer? And at which temperature you should store them?
Technically they say to keep them at room temperature, nothing extreme. I leave mine inside my garage. Tires see way worse when they're on cars, and they last just fine. I can imagine the garage isn't going to be all that extreme for them.
Engineering Explained I have a FWD, do I need to get 4 winter tire or 2 can make it?
(joke) I'd refrigerate winter tires at minimum... freezer is too small for tires.
L3xou97 , never run less friction tires in the rear, especially in winter. You will get tail happy and you want to avoid that. Same set of tires (or similar performance) around all four corners is optimal.
Youn Gu Right. I have to change my front tire soon, and my rear tire are not really used even if they're 2 years old. Should I put the new tire at the rear and the «old» at front?
Ahha! Where in from I have to use all seasons because it will be summer one day and a blizzard the next！🤪
All season
IMO those are not real winter tires. Maybe for light snow or something. When there is water in top of ice, it get's tricky. But that's why we have "White Hell".
I use Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 studded, but I live in Finland.
I use both Blizzak WS80 and Nokian Hakkapaleta 8 Studded :) The lighter the vehicle the more need for studs but a heavy car or truck can perform just as good with Blizzaks. On my plow truck I'm forced to use Goodyear Wrangler Duratrack studded, they suck on everything except deep snow but they hold lots of weight.
Blizzak is best if there's frequent dry roads and they're quiet.++
Nokian 8 is best if the roads are permanently frozen for the season.+
Gonna try Michelin Alpin4 this white hell season :)
Lantti I knew Finnish folks were proud of Nokia, as they should be, it’s to Finland & indeed the world what Motorola was to the USA/Globally from the time they pioneered cellular radio tech up to the point Nokia had far surpassed them as a supplier of consumer handheld cellular radio equipment....*takes a breath*
So as I said I get being proud and I get driving while talking on the cell phone was much safer with Nokia’s & an earbud than it is today w/touchscreens and twitter, but literally driving w/Nokia’s on all 4 corners?
I can’t support that, we get it they were the most durable phones ever made but what are you guys trying to prove by using them as tires, that’s just Pushing it
There are bit difference between Nokia, which makes phones and Nokian which makes tires. Nokian is genitive of Nokia. And that Nokia is city, where they made wc-paper, rubber boots etc...
Lantti forgive me I have dyslexia, although to be honest I think I preferred believing you were driving on old Nokia’s to knowing you’re driving on Nokia’s Genitals, whom Nokia went so far as to give a nickname
Simple: all-season are meh to ok-ish all year long
Winter tires are good under 7°C
Summer tires are good above 7°C
No magic.
That's a decent summary, but here's evidence to the contrary. It's not always that simple as it's dependent on many conditions: czcams.com/video/TJsV2ORMsms/video.html
Engineering Explained If it's often raining but never snowing, but cold. Which tire should you choose?
Winter tyres are good only on the snow and ice. Summer tyres are better on the asphalt even if it is below freezing.
Apathy Zen Nice thing to know. I'm pretty sure we can get good prices on summer tire because it's soon the end of summer.
Vahid Saberin , witchcraft!!!
Winter and all season tires will pass annual vehicle inspections for the most part. Summer, depends.
Im in southeast michigan. Ive always ran all seasons...i think most around here do.
We might have couple days of bad winter, but usually the roads are cleared up in a day or 2. And even when its comin down, they work just fine.
If i was in northern michigan, i'd prolly be a different story. They get feet of snow
All seasons "decently well" I call 'not being able to stop in winter conditions' complete crap, but everyone has their own style.
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I agree completely
I disagree
You sure about that?
@@honestguy7764 Use Google translator next time. He wrote: Thanks for good information.
Your the best dude
In the Netherlands we have a climate where we occasionally see hot summer and cold winter conditions. But overall, the climate is pretty mild and consistent. Warmer winters that Scandinavia, colder summers than the France and Spain. All season tires are perfect here!
My all weather tires might just be better than your summer tires.
My all weather tires might just be better than your winter tires.
My all weather tires are definitely better than your all seasons.
Y-rated 186 MPH, M+S A/S, 3MPSF severe service, Vredestein Quatrac 5.
I'm not sure why so many gearheads continue to pretend all-weather tires aren't the next big thing.
I just bought the Quadrac 5 for my Accord and my god I never knew tires could be so amazing, comfortable and sporty in the dry, confident in the wet, and I have no doubts they'll perform great in the snow
I live in Vermont and bought mine for my lexus because I was driving for uber. You gotta figure you'll be on dry pavement much of the time and it also rains during winter so why sacrifice safety (and fail to avoid an accident on dry roads) in those more typical conditions with a winter tire when you can get all conditions covered all of the time. They have low rolling resistance too so it saved me some money. And I used Tire Racks road hazard warranty to get a tire replaced for free.
Who cares about tires. We are going to hovering everywhere sooner than you might think!
hasifaiman ok
hasifaiman LOL
Obvious troll is obvious
There's gonna be hover material better than others. He'll explain that engineering then.
So annoying to switch between these in Moldova. I should just get All Season because I have nowhere to keep tires anyway. My commutes involve occasionally snow and ice but, frankly I should know better than speeding in places like that. If it's ice, I'm doomed anyway without having chain gripping.
If you drive 8k+ miles per season, buy each kind. If you drive less than 10k a year, buy all-season.
Never use all season tires. They are never as good as a summer tyre in the summer. And in the winter, they are horrible vs. winter tires. The break distance sucks bad for the all season tires compared to the others. Don't use them unless you have to.
Mircea Balea That is just plain wrong. It all just depends on where you live and what the weather conditions are. If you live in a place with hot summers and cold snowy winters then sure you should only use summer and winter.
Not every place has such a climate though. Where I live for example summer is definitely best for summer tires, but winter entirely depends on the winter we get. Some are colder with more snow and others are warmer with less snow. So unless you want to switch between summer and winter tires many times based on the week's weather predictions, you are potentially best off with an all season tire for the winter as you can basically have all season conditions here in winter.
In an emergency brake, those extra feet of braking distance can make the difference between you get out without a scratch vs. your car is totaled. I'd rather have 2 sets of tires and be safe.
You're assuming people use all-season tires for the whole year. But using all-season tires for the winter in areas with warmer climate and little to no snow is a solution, imho.
Would love to run summer tires on my car, but my tire size (185/65/R15) there really are not any summer tires available...
Allan Watters Live in Georgia? Lol. That sounds like our winter. We have seen 70F in January and then snow the following week. I have had summer tires since 2013 though.
Winter for snow, summer for asphalt.
Throw away all seasons.
Apathy Zen
Throw away my tires that can be driven in heavy rain & handles it like a champ?
Sure...
Throw away cell phones. That's a start. Then lots of money would suddenly be available for good tires.
"getting old and compound degrading while out of use"
Tires don't suddenly rot into a pile of dust like electronics go out of compatibility in 6 months.
Lifted_Above, not enough research has been done, but stored, little used winter tyres in one testing session performed terribly; worse than all but one budget Chinese tyre. Better to have all seasons in coastal/island climates than to bring out some winter tyres from the corner of the garage that haven't been needed for 3 years.
Perhaps not enough research has been done. But that's not what you need. You're skeptical regardless of research.
What I've done in the last 18-20 years of driving in the upper Midwest USA is run dedicated winter tires nearly every winter. I've tried without, and believe me, that's enough research for me to know what I tolerate and what I do not tolerate.
Hey, thanks for some valuable info. In my case, "all season" tire will do but I am trying to figure out if Grand Touring tire will not hinder performance much compared to Ultra High Performance all season tire. I want less road noise and I do occasional fast lane changes, some cornering.
i run summers in winter, full send
as far as I know what you're saying is wrong;
Summer: very good braking in dry, bad in wet and horrible in snow
Winter: bad in dry, decent in wet, impressive in snow
All Season: bad in dry, impressive in wet, acceptable in snow
I live in Tucson, AZ so I'll probably be going for the summer tires all the time.
all seasons suck in all seasons. jack of all trades master of none.
These American All Season tyres do not have an exact equivalent in Europe. Our All Season tyres resemble American All Weather tyres, whereas American All Season tyres are a sort of summer-biased European All Season tyres... Confusing.
Wrong.