How SPECIAL ITEMS Break Pokemon
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Btw, I also decided not to include exclusive Z-Stones because theyre kind of in the same camp as mega stones. Just a generational item that we dont see anymore.
This vid went crazy huh
I find it funny how you mispronounced Arceus as Ar-key-us right after saying RKS, which is a reference to it as it's properly pronounced Ar-kay-us literally Arc and Deus.
According to the trailer for the generation 9.5 game Legends Z-A, looks like we're getting Megas back for Generation 10, bay-beee!!!
@@BelugaTheHutt pretty sure the trailer was confirming megas for the game, not for gen 10.
Gen 10 finna be wild. I hope they ruin competitive entirely! BRO PLEASE ADD ANOTHER WORSE INCINEROAR GIVE THAT SHIT THE MOST BROKEN MOVE SETS AND ABILITIES AND TYPING OMG YESSSS 🥲🥲🥲
Also, you missed Lucky Punch. It's Stick but for Chansey line. No one uses it
what was gamefreak cooking when they gave the 5/35 offences pokemon an offensive signature item
Oh boy, can't wait to deal 200 damage with my Siesmic Toss 🫠
Correction: Not the Chansey line. Just Chansey. Unlike the Stick/Leek (which is what it's called from gen 8 onwards, which is also when Sirfetch'd was introduced, so it's technically a different item), which works for both Farfetch'd and Sirfetch'd, the Lucky Punch only works for Chansey, not Happiny or Blissey.
@@stephenwillis2751 Except for two problems. 1: Seismic Toss can't crit. 2: It would be 150 in modern generations (gen VI+) as crits now deal 1.5 damage.
It serves no actual purpose. Chancey will never use that over leftovers or evolite.
I could be wrong but focus shash seems to be Chien-Pao's signature item because I have yet to see one without it
Like seeing Scizor without Bullet Punch
@@nousername191 Or Garchomp without Liquidation
@@flameacegamingor nonbanded azu w/o bdrum
@@nousername191I did that once I had scizor on a trick room team because I am a madman
@@destroyer4929 Why did you give up Bullet Punch? Still useful even on a Trick Room Scizor
Since Ogerpon's masks also change the type of its move Ivy Cudgel, which is essentially Earthquake with a high crit chance, it ALSO has a 100% reliable rock type move.
Is it area of effect? I did not know.
@@turkoositerapsidi only the base power and accuracy
@@rokkraljkolesa9317 Well, then it isn't that similar, but in single fight that makes no difference tho
Fire Mask can also bonk Heatran because of Mold Breaker
@@-libertyprimev1-902 *o no*
Speaking of Arceus, we can't forget about the Legend Plate it gains in Legends: Arceus that they had to literally remove it one game later because of how busted it is to have Arceus transform into the most effective type and hit opponents super effectively ever single turn.
My bet is this is how Terapagos's special form is gonna turn out and I'm scared.
The legends plate falls into the cathegory of the teal mask, as it is an item that the pokemon uses in battle, it is exclusive for that pokemon but cannot be equiped as it is a key item
it's not a held item just because legend arceus doesn't have hold items thou.
So all plates work that way.
Pretty sure its a recreation of Conquest Arceus' Omnipotence ability, where it allows the thing to hit everything neutrally, while hitting a powerful AOE, while also having leftovers as an ability, among some other stuff
Honestly I think they should've kept it because I think arceus being able to do that just makes total sense I don't think he should be balanced it's literally god
They didn't remove it because it never saw any competitive play. It'd be like saying the battle system in LegArc was so OP that they had to change it back. It's a one off thing in a single player game
Ogorpon feels like someone's daughter wanted them to make them a Pokémon and they just put they whole foot in it
look all i'm saying is if i worked at game freak and my little sis designed a pokemon i would make it have 1000 bst just to make her happy
@@MelodyLuminayou are a good person
My favorite pokemon, Ogreporn
@@AutisticGastrodonThey're a loving parent if it's any consolation
... They took the legend of Momotaro, flipped the protagonists and antagonist for the sake of some novelty (adjusting appearances to better fit their new roles), and made the mon representing the ogres 100% female to emphasize its opposition to the all male Momotaro squad.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Light Ball Pikachu is the most terrifying Pokemon of random battles.
i just got swept by one 😔
Yeah, all my friends fear my Pikachu XD
It's still super frail but yeah offensively it's threatening
@@Eroil Light Ball Dynamax Pikachu sounds pretty potent in Gen 8.
@@lynxfresh5214that Light Ball Pikachu tera Raid was pretty tough, doable in solo but still tough.
It’s such a shame Ditto’s items don’t persist after it transforms. It’s a cool concept, to mix powder in with the goop that is Ditto, to fortify it’s cellular structure.
Given that ditto copies the stats of its target, the powders persisting would also give ditto an edge in the mirror match to make up for taking a free hit turn one while it transforms.
I just think it was a poor design choice to have them only affect untransformed ditto
@@matthewhintz5308would also make ditto actually useful in hackmons as it'd actually have a niche over blissey and chancey
the 2x speed might be a bit broken. Faster than choice scarf without the drawback...
@@theapexsurvivor9538yep
@@bigfudge2031 Something something thick club/light ball.
You forgot Wingull's signature item, Mail!
I loved when Farfetch'd said "it's sticking time" and clubbed those guys with a stick
One of the anime episodes of all time.
And then when they recreated that scene in Teal Mask when Ogerpon said the same line before clubbing the Three. Absolutely one of the scenes of all time.
The leek is used in another way in Japanese culture... just saying but the attack would deal double damage if he used it the right way.
I loved when i was playing hackmons and marowak said “it’s clubbing time” and 1shot everything with 1139 attack
And sticked his club into those guys*
Ivy cudgel is also a rock type move with 100 base power and 100% accuracy (but only for the rock ogerpon)
And Judgement
120 with 20% boost
Fun fact, in Gen 6 Triples, Stick Farfetch’d was paired with Anger Point Camerupt as a great synergistic supporter, in part (and most relevant in this case) because of it’s 100% crit Night Slash.
Wouldnt anger point krookodile have been a better choice given its better stats and dark resistance?
@@jmcbango Farfetch’d is slower than Krookodile, so you couldn’t activate Anger Point and then attack turn one. For Krookodile, Super Luck Unfezant with Scope Lens was a better partner.
Plus, since you want to run Camerupt under Trick Room, Farfetch’d was deliberately made lower level (Lv 33) to outspeed under Trick Room, so Night Slash did less damage anyway.
In defense of the ditto items, you arent really gonna have Impostor in a normal playthrough. You can give your ditto the option to take a hit better before it can transform, or make it able to transform faster. Thats not terrible if someone just wants to use a ditto on a casual playthrough, but it is prety useless when you have access to its hidden ability.
Fun fact: back in GSC Metal Powder was basically eviolite for Ditto even after it transformed. Sadly they fixed it as early as Stadium 2
They also were both introduced in generations before Ditto had Imposter.
@@spencerjohnson2462 THANK YOU. since I was literally just about to say the same thing myself. Both of the ditto powders were added before Imposter was a thing.
I'm like 99% certain the most used mask is going to be the fire mask, that shit takes Ogerpon's already high physical attack and her high powered Ivy Cudgel and then cranks it up to 12
And I can see water mask being used to counter urshifu cause water absorb
Yeah fire mask is the best for her as it grants her the best typing for offense and defense, mold breaker to not worry about flash fire or unaware if running sword dance, when tera'd a free +1 to attack, plus same type tera type stab boost to fire moves, plus a 1.2x boost to all moves, and if on a sun team Ogerpon is just obliterating anything
And there's already a good pre-existing incentive to use a Sun team because of Past Paradoxes, who also don't have a Fire-type in their ranks. (even if I keep forgetting Slither Wing isn't a Fire-type) Meanwhile, Wellspring would be good in Rain for similar reasons, but kind of has higher opportunity cost imo, because Rain already has a bunch of strong, fast Water mons to stack with it
Wo-Chien should get a item that gives it a plus 6 omniboost when it uses grow in the sun.
Wo-Chien isn't THAT bad
GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW-CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
@@tonberry2670 Fr it's a solid pokemon; it's just not as blatantly OP as the other relics.
@@tonberry2670 wdym, this would make him UU at best
Finally, UUBL
I don’t think anyone ever uses it, but I believe Chansey is the only one who can use the Lucky Punch item, which basically does the exact same thing as ‘The Stick ™’, I’m not sure if the item is even in the newest gens though
yeah it does, it just doesn't make chansey a broken pokemon
@@rex_melynasCorrect, I believe the Eviolite does.
But isn't it leek and not stick?
@@turkoositerapsidiIt is still called a stick ingame.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Is it, I remember it is called leek, and cooking item as large leek. Am I mistaken then?
Idk if I missed it but I'm surprised you didn't mention rock Ivy Cudgel being the 2nd 100% accurate GOOD physical rock move lmaoo.
Funny how they are both signature moves
Gamefreak really hates rock types
Yeah..... Strange....
@@axolotl1777Almost as much as physical electric types... :/
@@axolotl1777
Rock, Ice and Electric Types are all super good offensive types, so to make sure they can't be abused, they gave them all heavy drawbacks. Phys Rock moves have no accuracy, Phy Electric moves have no power, and Ice Types have no ability to switch into an attack and live.
Now as for why those types have those weaknesses meanwhile Fighting and Ground type get to run the meta... Umm, yeah IDK.
@@Endershock1678 Volt tackle does 120 though and discharge is 80
It’s worth mentioning that Genesect’s Techno Blast was originally only 90 Base Power. Given that TB has no additional effects, it meant that originally the only Drive even remotely worth considering was Douse; since Genesect could already learn Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam (but not Surf). And even then, it wasn’t really worth it to give up an item slot for a 90 BP move without STAB on a Pokémon with already impressive coverage.
Tera is a think now, so if Genesect gets in...
Genesect w Expert Belt was crazy back then 😰😰😰😰 since it was still type having the ability to learn rock polish was nuts bc it takes neutral pre much to everything except fire
I didn’t know ogerpon mask boost it’s power by 20% this Pokémon is going to be so broken
No xd
It already is but she is cute so i respect the bonk
She is busted, yet somehow feels more balanced than Urshifu 💀. At least she seems easier to play around.
@@jaotrx7163Fym “no”
She's strong but not broken. Still outsped by a bunch of threats.
It feels weird to say "RKS system" then immediately pronounce Arceus as Arseuss
I pronounced it both ways like twice in this video to make everyone mad
Well... in Japanese it's Aruseusu... so...
@@sdarkpaladin but the RKS system isn't called that in japanese cause it's not pronounced that way
@@KiwyGal Yes. The RKS System is just the AR System in Japanese
@@sdarkpaladin thats cool I guess but its english name comes from the words archangel and deus so it would be pronounced Ar-Kay-Us
"The Stick, what does it represent"
WHAT A BANGER OPENING
The Ditto powders would be useful if they worked even while Ditto was transformed.
Clamperl needs a third form as a super-bulky pure water Giant Clam that evolves with the DeepSea Pearl which gives Clamperl x1.5 SpA and SpD.
They need to come out with a game where i can evolve clampearl with an item cuz i have no friends who play pokemon anymore.
@@waterierStone hang on thats a trade evo?, damn it game freak!
Okay, legit, GF needs to have an NPC in-game that will offer trade-backs.
You can trade one of your trade-evo Pokémon for one of their filler so yours will evolve, then trade back so you now have the final form. Have it so he’s also next to a vendor who sells items required for some trade evolves (metal coat, deep sea items, etc.) and you’ve removed a lot of frustration from the game
Honestly think the scale should just be changed to Attack.
Just for LC, you know.
Also, the items should work for Gorebyss and Huntail.
Hear me out, how about make a Thick Club hammer equivalent for Tinkaton line
Anything to make Tinkaton viable
Brother, we DO NOT need another Steel-Fairy infested Meta for god's sake. Sure, give it something, but not Huge Power: the item.
As much as I like Tinkaton the last thing it needs is a buff to its attack, Gigaton Hammer would rip through basically anything that isn't resisted
Yall sayin Tink doesn't need this when literally last week they dropped a tanky nuke of a bear that essentially has the same move. Fake Out and Hammer is all that she's got, she can get somethin elsee
@@CairoOmar39Increase the Atk stat to 85 if not 90?
Or have the item boost be 1.3x rather than the usual 1.5x?
@@cold-bloodedbeats4139and said move coming off of 135 Sp. Atk
Big fan of the stick. Ofc it's not anything crazy of an item competitively cuz Farfetch'd line isn't that good, but it's funny to use it in casual playthroughs and critting left and right.
And it's Hatsune Miku rep
Even Sirfetcd??
You forgot that the unlike the Plates, the Memories just change the type of Silvally and Multi Attack, and *nothing else*
That's what I said
@@MoxieBoostedno you didn’t, you forgot to say so because you was talking about how there’s little to no 100% Acc. Rock moves
@goGothitaLOL no i mean like, I didn't claim they did anything else
The Lucky Punch is the exact same as Farfetch'd's Leek, except that it only works for Chansey.
The most frustrating thing about the Gen 8 signature items is you can't get them if you trade for the box legendaries through Home, and you can't buy them from the flea market that was supposed to solve that very issue.
I only started dipping my toes into competitive for the first time last fall with Scarlet, but I loveeeeed my Light Ball Pikachu with Lightning Rod alongside my Gyarados. (I used the Flying Tera-type Pikachu from the Mystery Gift). Also sometimes I would give him Grass Knot which was a fun surprise against heavy rock and ground types 😂😂
Light Ball just turns your Pikachu into Ash's and I'm so here for it.
@@castform7only time where “built different” is correct, ash’s pikachu is just built different
Mewtwo's Berserk Gene needed an honorable mention, never in pokemon history has a single pokemon been more busted, and I'm aware pre-nerf Zacian Hero exists
While the item is basically mewtwo’s unstable flesh, it isn’t as though its effects only apply when mewtwo holds it. So by the definition of signature held items used in this video, it wouldn’t count.
@@pokeperson1000 but in gen 2(?) Mewtwo is the only pokemon that gets the boost without getting confused I believe
It's the same with the Tablets from Arceus, everyone can use them, and they're still in the video
@@jacksonville9642 Berserk gene confuses mewtwo in gen 2 as well; its the same effect for every pokemon that wields it.
@@kingwailord4143 yeah I got it confused with Mewtwo always having it equiped in pokemon Gold and Silver, even though he doesn't appear on those games
BG is not its signature item, every Pokémon can use it.
"Oh boy, I hope my chansey hits a critical sesmic toss!"
---Little Jimmy after equiping lucky punch on his chansey🧒🏻
*Poor little Jimmy dosen't know that sesmic toss uses fixed damage and can't result in a critical hit*
I love this format and have seen all of your vgc discussion vids, keep it up :)
Thick Club is way more notable, it's a signature item but it also causes an overflow in certain cases so it comes up in talks on explots / glitches, it can cause max attack, etc
Oh yea the shenanigans with the stat overflow and needing a what is it 248 EV attack marrowak to not overflow
This has probably been mentioned before (considering that this is a mayor oversight that most people would notice) but you missed Lucky Punch, which happens to arguably be the most devastating signature item in the entire franchise! It is like the incredible Stick, but for a Pokemon that is already good!
Here is my Chansey moveset from Smogon Gen 7 OU:
Chansey @ Lucky Punch
Adamant nature
EVs: 212 Atk / 100 Def / 196 Spe
Ability; Healer
Tri Attack
Last Resort
HYPER BEAM (!!!!)
Body Slam
This set is really good. Yes, you lose out on the Eviolite buffs, but it is totally worth it. I beat my brother using this Chansey. The strategy is to use Body Slam and Tri Attack to status to opponent, and because one move is physical and the other is special, you can hit hard on both sides! And then when they least expect it, you can unless a DEVASTATING HYPER BEAM and blast their Pokemon to smithereens! And with the Lucky Punch a critical hit is almost guaranteed!
I am not sure about Last Resort, but PS marks it as a good move for Chansey and PS is made my Smogon so who am I to question the pros? Just slap it on and use it, all Chansey other moves are garbage anyway.
Also, there is this thing in Pokemon called STAB meaning "Super Top A-tier Buff" which gives great power and this Chansey gets it with ALL his moves! Just do not tell this to your friends because if you do they will complain!
To round out this set is healer. In singles it has a chance to randomly change your Pokemon in a Pokegod like Pikablu. I have never seen it happen but my best friend has had it happen to him twice. Too bad that he deleted his save file with his Pokegods on it. The first time he got Pikablu and the second time he got Raikill, which is a Electric/Kill type Raichu which can instantly defeat any Pokemon. And yes, Kill is an actual type in the game. My friend says he deleted his save file because he did not like the Kill type.
This post gave me cancer. I enthusiastically approve.
@@Sion-wn8te That's the joke
@@Sion-wn8tehis uncle works at game freak and will ban you and delete all your pokemons if you keep being disrespectful.
Only one of them breaks the game.
The masks also change the type of Ogerpon's signature move, so you can have another 100% accurate, good Rock type move in Ivy Cudgel
Something I silently wish is that Tinkaton gets an exclusive item similar to a thick club
Good vid Moxie, There is this one kind NPC in Snowpoint town that taught me that Everstone was Haunter's signature item.
So glad you popped up on my recommendations that one time
I love your videos! I wish you posted everyday even though you post almost every day since I listen to you at work often.
Or at least some longer videos
As a lifelong Farfetch’d fan I pray to the stick every night before bed and polish my porcelain replica every week
Damn! You got over 100k views! Keep on kicking ass and taking names!
8:00 you forgot rock type Ivy Cudgel!
A couple cool things I learned about Metal Powder when crafting my team for Infinite Fusion: unlike Quick Powder, Metal Powder does work when Ditto is transformed but only in gen 2. It also raises both defenses instead of just Defense. Pretty decent if only Ditto had better stats
I don't think I'll ever play competitive Pokemon, but watching your videos is still cool.
Still wish OG Marowak was a Ground/Ghost or Rock/Ghost. Probably wouldnt of helped, but hey its something.
Ghost Ground would have made marowak nuts in gen 2 since shadowball was physical back then.
This is such a good channel
dude this video is great
Razor Claw and Razor Fang don't fall into this category, but they do serve a similar function as besides their battle effects they're the only way to evolve Sneasel and Gligar respectively.
Amazing video
You did in deed forget one: chansey's lucky punch. Literally just the stick but for chansey.
just realized I wasnt subscribed so I fixed that thank you again for another video Mister Moxie Boosted
The lucky punch for chancy line, and the Lax incense, and water incense that let Snorlax breed munch lax, maril/ azumaril breed azuril, i think there is one for wobafett to breed wynot though each of the incense effects can work on any Pokemon in battle, the breeding effect only works when held by specific pokemon
woooooo new moxie boosted vid
"The Stick".
lulz. Its not that serious. But it made me lol so hard.
no way bro called it the stick
i don‘t know if you already made a video about it but i think it would be awesome to see a video about vgc and the different forms of the legendary pokemons
i had a dream a year ago where i watched a video where someone talked about clampearl like you did in this video. pretty cool
Cool vid. No idea there were this many unique items lol
I think you forgot that ogerpon also gets the abilitiez sturdy, mold breaker and water absorb if it hasnt terad yet while wearing a mask
Thx dor the heart mate, I shall now re-enact the Temple of doom from indiana Jones
another banger from my favorite snail enjoyer
It's amazing how many subscribers and views you've gain in such a short amount of time but you deserve every one of them. You put a lot of effort and research into your videos and I'm glad I was able to to find your great channel and gain new knowledge with your detailed and informative videos.
Literally the AsumsSaus of competitive pokemon
One thing everyone forgets to mention with dittos items, is that back in gen two metal powder DID actually still work after ditto transformed! Eviolite shuckle, anyone??
I see 170 atck zacian with permantent + 1 attack really made something to you
~I didnt feel like it~ is my mood from now on lol
Small technicality, changing judgments type is not dependend on multitype as if a pokemon holding a plate pulls it through metronome it will be the type of that plate
So THAT is what the point of the mask is!
I personally think that the fire mask for ogerpon is the best, with the attack boost for tera, plus the most resistances of the 3, and the 2nd or 1st for most super effective against. Although the water mask is pretty good too.
Yeah Fire Ogerpon is definitely the best as it does the most damage and just does even more if placed on a sun team
I think they all have their uses. Fire is obviously a great sweeper, but the others aren't bad either.
Grass has the speed and move pool to have a decent set. You can build it bulky and have it harass with follow me, Taunt, encore, or scary face.
Water meanwhile is bulky, makes Urshifu's life miserable with follow me and water absorb, and can run a decent set overall.
Rock is similar to water, but exchanges a good defensive typing for a good offensive spread with Rocky Cudgel.
Hearing about Ogerpon's item for the first time makes it literally sound like some fan game item. That's freaking nuts how many mechanics/buffs are at play with that thing.
0:55 Understandable, since they're like, their own talk haha
I fuck with you getting the order for "respectively" correct.
Like the concept plus ogrepon is cute
Dude I so god agree with you on the topic of PHYSICAL ROCK TYPE MOVES ACCURACY I mean a landslide of rock coming straight at ya can miss wtf
4:00 Yeeeeees I saw that reference coming from a mile away
The stick is the ultimate weapon.
Every mega stone is technically a signature item.
Only focusing on VGC hurts this video alot because funny shit happens in Smogon. Marowak holding a Thick Club is a genuinely great mon in Gen 2 OU, as well as it being in the same club as Gen 1 Mewtwo being able to overflow its attack stat after some Sword Dances.
Clamperl holding the Deep Sea Scale is banned in some generations of Little Cup due to it being too tanky for the format (A rare time when Smogon bans stall)
I like how Ditto gets his own stuff
Genesect's also usually not Smogon legal for more then 6 minutes before he goes straight to OUBL again
light ball used to be the only way to get volt tackle on the pikachu line and did so through breeding giving it as an egg move.
Pokémon Cloud/Soil have a Pokémon called Glimmarine. It’s basically Genesect but a fish. It can hold a Scale to change the type of its signature Rainbow Beam. These scales also boost its Offenses and Defenses by 10%.
They also introduced 2 100% accurate physical Rock moves. Rock Wheel and the Outrage clone Boulder Dash
I remember that Ditto Quick Sand was used when transform was a move and not an ability
Loved the doofenshmirtz reference
I'll say I honestly LOVE me some Sirfetch'd. I remember using one in Sword and just thinking he was really neat. Admittedly the Speed problem is still an issue, though they've got enough ATK that if you can manage to hit something it's amazing.
cool arceus facts
you can also put a z-crystal as it's item and that will turn it into that type while also allowing BUGINIUM Z uhhh savage spinout? something like that.
Super cool video. I really like to hear about strange, situational, and admittedly forgettable items and combinations. Some of these items I either didn't put much mind into or didn't entirely understand how strong they could be (situationally of course). Like, +2 crit chance on the stick?! I thought it was just +1... Wild.
I'm also running a Pokemon tabletop with some friends. Now I wanna see how they'll fair vs a clamperl with the tooth. No promises though.🤣
Video idea: pokemon that don't use their higher offensive stat (like throat spray Kommo-o or fezandipiti)
My man's disrespected the Lucky Punch. Left my man out.
On the accurate rock moves topic, you didnt put it there but I guess ivy cudgel rock counts too?
Hey, I like Clamperl! I thought it looks cute, and it is a viable Shell Smash user in Smogon's Little Cup tier!
Headphones that protect the holder from sound moves is a cool idea ! 🎧
- The stick
- Dear God...
- There's more
- NO!
I pressed the subscribe button and he said thanks
3:14 "PIII~" timestamp ❤
I would love to have a light ball equivalent for Pichu.
I am using ogerpon hearthflame mask in the next online tournament :)
I had not realised that Ogerpon was quite that busted
take a drink every time he says “respectively”
Silvally is basically "we have Arceus at home"
The new ogre dude rock move just outdates the 8:07 part haha xD