American Reacts to Why Poland is Preparing for War Against Russia
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- Why Poland is Preparing for Full Scale War Against Russia
American Reaction to Why Poland is Preparing for Full Scale War Against Russia
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Lol, what? Poland is nowhere near close to bankruptcy. Poland is 20'th largest economy on the world. We do not have 90's anymore.
Nothing against you personally, but I find it funny that Americans are way more scared than the average Pole :) No need to be scared especially if we help Ukraine to stand their ground against Russia, because Russia barely is able to wage war against Ukraine that gets pretty much surplus / decommissioned equipment from its allies.
In other words. As long as Ukraine survives and is able to fight Russia there will be no WW3. If Russia wins, because we stop supporting Ukraine then you can worry about the breakout of WW3 in 4 - 10 years once Russia replenishes their losses from Ukraine.
Plus China would see that US is weak and this next attack would align with invasion of Taiwan or maybe even Alaska? Helping Ukraine is pure opportunity.
You can read a newspapers from 1 day before WWII, they written there will be no war... next day what happened
American soldiers do not help protect the Polish border against emigrants. They fulfill a completely different role and are deployed within NATO and not separately like the US in other non-aligned countries. They protect other Western countries more than Poland. That's their role. The Polish border is also the EU and NATO border. If it came to war, they would die sooner than they arrived. This isn't Iraq. That's the truth.
It actually is... War in Ukraine is closer to Iran-Iraq War then anything. Despite Russian cope, they do not fight NATO. NATO can't actually give Ukraine they main assets and mostly deliver surplus and secondary assets. Current Russian tech is not that more advanced then what Saddam did have. We actually did see example of what things would look like, when Iran attacked Israel not that far ago.
But yes. If Poland ask NATO for help regard immigrants, it would be diplomatic and intelligence stuff. Whole thing is not a threat what is really concerning Poland now. It is more annoying then anything.
I don't expect WW3 to happen. Russia is done for.
It's not ,the US is just pissed it didn't get those arms deals and the media is polluting this crap on the US citizens.
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Rosja nie zaatakuje ani polski ani innych państw Europy ...
Nie jest Rosja wygrywa nawet w tv już o tym mówią Ukraina przy północy USA przegrywa. Niestety .zresztą gospodarczo Rosja też dobrze stoi .USA Europa wprowadziły sankcje .Rosja handluje z Chinami nowa światową potęgą
The deal with 250 Abrams for Poland for 250 donated Soviet T-72s is not truth. Poland bought for normal price new 250 Abrams from the USA before the war in Ukraine started. As for giving away its own tanks Poland gave away to Ukraine for free ,did not sell them whereas the US does, about 400 tanks (T-72, PT-91, Leopard 2), which is more than all countries put together that helps Ukraine including the US. Today, the USA is the biggest beneficiary of this war. Everything what transfers is a loan with interest.
I think there is bit of confusion here. Yes, 250 Abrams deal was already a thing. But US in fact did give Poland right to acquire around 150 additional renovated M1A1 FEP's in exchange for donated hardware. And for reminder most of that donated by Poland gear was already planed for retirement. So overall it is bit more complicated.
@@TheRezro Exactly 116 used Abrams A1 tanks. Only that Poland bought them for USD 1.4 billion... not for free. The US does not give Poland anything for free. Even the 32 F-35s purchased by Poland total cost $112 million each. And this was at a time when the average price was ~$90 million per unit.
@@darr473 And that is not a issue. Poland give things for free literally only because utilization of junk would cost way more money. You also forget that const include infrastructure. Acquisition of aircraft alone is always cheaper. But we need buy a lot of additional equipment. It isn't like FA-50 which could not fly, because Błaszczak didn't bought training simulators to save money.
@@TheRezro "utilization of junk" ? Are you calling the T-72 where the Russians are fighting even on the T-64 junk? You call AHS Krab and PT-91 junk, where the latter turn out to be one of the best tanks Ukraine has? Or maybe the donated Leopard 2s are also junk? Is PZRK Piorun, which was also purchased by the USA, junk for you? Get over yourself man, if Russia had only fought with such junks, it would have won the war a long time ago.
USA should support Ukraine Poland Baltic nations. We are friends.
lol "friends". USA literally is destroying Ukraine from the inside. Now the country is indebted for thousands of years.
More than 500,000 soldiers died. The country is riddled with nazism everywhere.
And besides... Russia already won.
What the F*** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
What they always forget: When Germany wanted to unite, the allies (all of them) had to allow it. And one big condition of the UK to allow unification was that the united Germany has to reduce massivly his Army. Before unification the German Army (East and West combined) had about 1 Million soldiers. With the condition Germany was forced to reduce to less than 380.000 Soldiers, has to reduce the arsenal of Tanks, ships etc.
Additional the unification was very expensive and unfortunately Germany reduced his Army even more than needed to use the money for unification.
In the event of an attack by Russia, this agreement would no longer exist, England and other countries would not insist on it. In addition, such agreements can always be terminated.
@@bjorndebar8361 They may be terminated, but should not be terminated unilaterally, especially not by Germany.
That would be akin to the remilitarization of the Rhineland by A.H. Oh, and most also don't rememeber that for the rearmament of West Germany in the 50s all western Allies had to agree as well. In that case it was France that demanded cooperation contracts among French and German military supply companies so they could have insight into what went on where and how much. All of these contracts are still in effect. Again, they may be terminated but the current state is that they are still in effect.
Which a certain orange moron in the States might not know, but many other politicians in the States DO know about.
@@RustyDust101 Everything you said is correct, and we Germans have no intention of terminating these contracts, because everyone knows that it is important to us to coordinate everything with our allies, for whom we are often criticized. But in the event of a war, these contracts would no longer be worth anything, everyone knows that.
What people forget is that even with reduction of military, European NATO still vastly overpower Russia.
There were ongoing plans of military reform, what also is why investment in old tech were cut.
Europe is not and never was weak. That is pure propaganda spread by Russian sponsored assets.
@@RustyDust101 Trump doesn't even know that current state of Europe is direct decision of the Washington.
In Europe people were more then happy that US itself basically allow them to push reforms.
It's not like that. S.Korea, like the USA, only does business for money when selling weapons. This is not "supporting". If there is no payment, there will be no goods. This is far from help! It is just a business, especially for USA.
Putin just signed alliance with North Korea. Now as South Korea has war with North, they opened they full stacks for Ukraine. Of course payment thing is more complicated. But that is a secondary issue.
The classic American business model, - captive customers and regulators.
USA is mainly pissed off 'cause they did have those deals...
Yep those big arm contracts.
Damn .
You have south and north korea,two countries. South Korea dont support Russia.
She Just said that, thats obvious
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The amount of delusion in the comments is absolutely astounding. Incredible. I'm speechless.
You guys really can't get a clue about what is going on in the world, huh?
American perspective is often quite funny to me. They are shitting their ants while we (Poland) are on the major line of sight and we just calmly preparing for another war. Childish for USA
Rosja nie napadnie na kraje NATO .ma z europ😊a interesy
@@anettaxxx8551Z Ukrainą też miała i ma, np. nadal sprzedaje swój gaz na Ukrainę. To o niczym nie świadczy. Wszystko zależy czym zainfekowana jest głowa moskiewskiego cara.
Spending spree is the right term to call what the previous government did, and now we're equally as puzzled by our orders from South Korea as the rest of Europe ;)
Tbf the modernization expansion of our military is very well needed, but at the same time its very much true that the way how they did the orders, basically without any negotiations, is what is really dumb especially considering the volumen of said orders.
@@bohomazdesign725 Except that is straight not true. Military reform in Poland was ongoing from decades. Błaszczak simply bit over-promoted things, making it look like compulsory decision.
Regard FA-50. Even Americans noticed that there is a capability hole after retirement of F-16. F-35 is bit too pricey for random patrols and training. FA-50 was ordered primarily as armed trainer and patrol craft. It would be also extremely effective against drones and cheaper to operate then F-16. The issue is that it was promoted as the mainline fighter, which it really is not.
As for K2. French kick out Poland form MGCS (what is now half dead). It was done in time when Poland was seen as trouble maker, warning from Russia. Poland has also really bad experience working with Germans on Leopard 2 and until recently there was no actual production of those tanks. Abrams is great, but it is a costly tank to operate and it was not clear if infrastructure in Poland can support it in large numbers (Now we know it can). Not having options Poland could ask for help only South Korea. And that was what Błaszczak promoted. Generally situation changed bit and whole thing would be renegotiated. But it would be either Abrams or K2 anyway.
As for K9 Thunder. Poland bough it a stopgap. Krab still would be main platform here. Chunmo is mostly because Koreans agree on production of missiles in Poland and integration of Polish Fenix missiles.
Generally there isn't really true controversy here. Like, media completely miss that Poland also bough new ships, would have own complex Air-Defense (It is why they do not want join European Shield), and entire missile force, etc. But those things aren't as sexy as whole tanks talk.