Muttley, the parts bin bike, helps Brock teach a
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Brock has a little fun with his buddy Jeff’s new ride and gives us a lesson in Suzuki parts history in the process.
Affectionately coined “Muttley” after its first dyno test session, Brock explains how this horsepower underachiever actually has DNA from some of the manufacturer’s highest-performing thoroughbred heritage. Brock believes the power “is in there,” but can he extract the power, while also complimenting some of the OEM’s intentional changes?
We hope you enjoy, Muttley, the parts bin bike, helps Brock teach a #stupidfast history lesson
Parts Currently on the Bike:
Penta-Carbon Full Exhaust: brocksperformance.com/penta-c...
Sprint Filter P08: brocksperformance.com/sprint-...
ECU Flash w/ Fuel Tune: brocksperformance.com/brockfl...
Quickshifter: brocksperformance.com/flashtu...
Front Sprocket: brocksperformance.com/vortex-...
Lowering Link: Coming Soon
Kickstand: Coming Soon
Additional Parts for Drag Racing:
Dynojet PCV: brocksperformance.com/dynojet...
Ceramic Wheel Bearings: brocksperformance.com/ceramic...
Sprint Filter P08 F1-85: brocksperformance.com/sprint-...
BST Carbon Fiber Wheels: brocksperformance.com/wheels-...
Clutch Mod Kit: brocksperformance.com/ultra-l...
Heavy Duty Clutch Spring Kit: brocksperformance.com/heavy-d...
Front End Lowering Kit: brocksperformance.com/radial-...
Servo Buddy: brocksperformance.com/servo-b...
PAIR Block Off Plates: brocksperformance.com/pair-bl...
Rear Sprockets: brocksperformance.com/wheels-...
Chapters / Time Stamps:
0:00 - Mystery bike introduction
2:21 - What the hell is a ‘parts bin’ bike?
7:41 - Mystery Muttley’s BIG reveal
10:53 - Discussing velocity stack length
14:00 - Dyno charts before and after mods
20:43 - Bike warm-up and dyno runs
24:36 - Dyno chart review and torque comparison
27:54 - Brock takes the bike for a test ride
30:44 - Pros and cons of changing the front sprocket
34:34 - Limitations of changing OEM gearing
38:19 - Introducing the owner to his new bike
40:55 - Discussing the original 1982 Katana
44:29 - Owner heads off for first test ride
48:29 - Discussing the results with the owner
52:24 - Final thoughts / does Muttley stay or go?
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Will this flash work with the Suzuki GSX S1000 as well?
@@kingdan7458 not sure. Get with Chris Moore/ Moore Mafia
Always a safe bet to like a Brock’s video even before the intro!
Just impossible to be disappointed =)
I don’t want a katana, I don’t want a katana, I don’t want a katana. Wow great video. Love that k5 Suzuki sound. My first true liter bike back when they were new. Iconic sound
I'm always up for learning. This video kicked quite a few doors open for me! That said, this is why I love this channel.
Glad to hear it! That's why we do it. Thanks for watching.
Wow. That frontend does have to retro look from back in the day. Really cool again brock. Thanks.
Hey Brock your looking slimmer, I’m glad your keeping the weight off .
Love the content and the channel
Keep the videos coming .
I appreciate that!
I thought the same, hadn't seen his videos in a while and he looks 5 years younger at least!
I did the 41 on the rear to protect the swingarm in the long run.
I just bought a black 2020 Katana, so, I might be getting in touch with you soon! Great video, very informative.
Be careful on that bike. She is a beauty!! Would not want to scratch it!!
very very informative thank you
No such thing as too much horsepower, but in a way, 165+ WHP is like...a lot for a non-superbike like the Katana, ha-ha. That's stock Hayabusa power. It's not the same bike anymore, ha-ha! The dyno charts clearly demonstrate that! You're a crazy man, Brock! Great work as always!
Nice video Brock! Those are some serious power gains for basic mods. I almost bought a GSX1000F, did plenty of research on those and every review and spec sheet says it's the K5 motor in those as well, same 73.4 X 59.0 bore x stroke. The K9 was 74.5 X 57.3.
Correct!
I bought a new Katana, I had no intentions of modifying it, that exhaust sound now has me thinking twice
Great video Brock, I dont understand how this does not have more views. Im surprised they also used the same camshaft as they used in the K5 Gsxr. It would be one of the easiest modifications Suzuki could have done to make the bike have a more desireable power delivery.
@Freek, thanks! I guess you have to want to learn something here? lol.
@@BrockDavidson Learned a lot, as with each video!
Identical gear ratios from the 2005 GSX-R1000. Seems ridiculous, since these are street bikes and those track gear ratios are among the absolute worst for street use (extremely tall 1st gear, 2nd through 6th stacked right on top each other, 6th gear running engine too fast with worse MPG).
Got to try the new GSX when it comes out.
48:40 Self unzippering jacket. 👍
Will be interesting to see how the GSX-S1000GT goes, since it's the Euro5 parts-bin cousin to this sweet little machine. Excellent improvement from the docile 139hp!
Seems the updated S1000 and S1000GT have about 8-10 hp chopped off the top. More than likely changed cams. Moore Mafia has done some tuning on them. Also, the examples he had in his shop were fitted with less than optimal exhaust headers (small ID). Things might be different with Brock's headers installed, but then again Brock's is about double the cost of other systems. Not complaining, it's R&D and overhead and materials, sales volume, etc.
I’m no fan of new bikes but if I had the money I would go buy one now, and being used to a 600 bandit that 130bhp would be like warp speed for me. Big CC racing in UK have put a turbo on one
Person frame does also adjusts the nicety of the P/W ratio, but in this case, power was an easy add.
Hey brock, hope u do ktm's waiting for it 👌🏻
Did the sprocket change on a Super Duke R. World of difference in ridability and enjoyment. 16 front or 41 rear. I'll reach out and see if you offer tunes,pipes for the 2019 SDR.
Contact Bren Tuning Moto - They have a flash for the Super Duke
I have a GSX-S1000GT on order, hopefully the Euro5 won't kill this possibility.
Ahhh.... So it's a new Katana?
Super interesting video brock 👌 if installing an after market quickshifter what do you recommend that as good as OEM or better
We offer this to match our flash: bit.ly/3yeUKgh
That’s really impressive. I thought my MT10 was good for the price. Granted. You don’t have one on the same dyno. But most only get 14-150 from it. It’s a shame they didn’t slap the new gixxer 1000 in their naked. That would have had me looking. Or brought back the b-king.
As someone that just bought a Katana I think I will be going with these products
Most are listed in our store: bit.ly/2XTa5GA . If you see something in the video that's not in the store yet, give us a call or use the blue support button. Some of the items in the video were special made for the Katana (prototypes) so the production version takes a while longer to be listed in our store.
The GSX-S1000 is based on the K5 engine. It was the big selling point. The Katana is exactly the same bike just with different clothes. The gsxs came first. The katana is just an attempt to make money off the katana name. I kinda want to buy your full exhaust and tune for my 2018 gsxs but I've got the arrow headers on mine now I'd have to sell that. Sounds like that one idles a lot better than mine
Muttley lol 😂
Would you have a flash for the stock exhaust? My neighbors dont like noise but the fuelling is horrendously lean low down, id like to get it flashed. Or do you do a baffle for pentacarbon? Or shall i just move house?😂
Personally, I moved ;) But this might be more economical: brocksperformance.com/noise-suppressor-fits-penta-carbon-muffler/
Answering the specifics about gearing, I think the gear ratios and final drive ratios are the same between the GSX-S1000 and Katana (in the video).
Assuming this to be true, I dug into the Gearing Commander website.
17/44 final drive ratio:
@1,200 rpm (idle) 1st gear is 8.5 mph stock.
@ 60 mph highway 6th gear, RPM is 4,203.
@11,500 rpm (redline stock) 6th gear is 164.2 mph.
16/44 final drive ratio:
@1,200 rpm (idle) 1st gear is 8.0 mph stock.
@ 60 mph highway 6th gear is 4,466.
11,500 rpm (redline stock) 6th gear is 154.5 mph.
Gearing is just math...not so tough on the surface. The problem with answering "simple" questions on gearing is that most riders don't understand the variables involved. More Info: blog.brocksperformance.com/faq/what-is-the-best-gearing-combination-for-my/
@@BrockDavidson Right, agreed. I figured MPH and RPM and gear number would resonate with most casual readers.
@Lifted_Above - we offer a free gearing spread sheet on our site. Just plug in the info. from your service manual (Z H2 used as an example) to get detailed rpm vs. MPH: blog.brocksperformance.com/charts/Speed_In_Gears_ZH2_2020.xlsx
@@BrockDavidson Thanks Brock. I was using the Gearing Commander website which is a database with most motorcycles loaded into it, which the author of the site gets from owners and service manuals.
I'd use your site's feature if I was needing to, but as of right now I was only hoping to help the viewer since you brought that data up.
My day job is mechanical engineering, just as a reference. I'm not the details because I like details. Haha
dear god I know that cartoon!
I hope he got a good deal. My local dealer had one for a long time. The looks are either love or hate. My only issue with the new Katana is tank capacity. Here in Iowa most of the gas stations have crap gas and it is difficult finding stations with good gas every 100 miles. I would probably go with the GSX-S1000 with a bigger tank.
These bikes don't care about gas quality...they are built to run on fuel in 3rd world countries also.
@@BrockDavidson Doesn’t octane matter with a tune?
2020 GSX-S1000 runs 4.5 gallons. 2021+ GSX-S1000 increased to 5.0 gal.
Katana runs 3.2 gallons. I know, ridiculous idea Suzuki. What were you smoking that day? Assuming 40 mpg between the Katana and the new 5.0 gallon tank S1000, over the course of 20,000 miles you'll be visiting a petrol pump 95 times more. Assuming 10,000 miles a year, you'll be stopping 47 times more at a petrol pump with the Katana vs. the S1000. I'm decent at math, those are spot on numbers.
True . But.. A smaller Counter shaft sprocket will put less stress on the counter shaft and moves the additional stress to the rear wheel sprocket and bearings. I would rather move any additional stress to the rear wheel and bearings and not the Counter Shaft and bearings/Engine. Dropping one tooth on the CS sprocket is the way to go as it also or should allow you to keep the chain the same length and not have to remove any links. Should is the key word there.
Dropping the front diameter hurts power as well as reduces chain life. As far as stress, or moving it. Unconsiquential, IMHO
@@BrockDavidson k thx Brock.
👊🏻✊🏻👍🏻
you dont see the gsx-s750 or GSR600 stacks i gues??? haha.
do you know what the differents in cams are with a gsxr1000?
Brock , everyone says the engine is a from a k5 but is it ? Could I take my spare 200bhp k5 race engine and bolt it straight in ?
We haven't done it...but it should drop right in.
@@BrockDavidson cheers, mite have to get one drop it in and upgrade suspension from spares from l7 race bike and call it dastardly
People can say what they want about the old-school can a tuna’s but they had the gloss black 1127cc engine that all of us early 1052cc GSXR 1100 owners wanted. Brock you look like you are getting lean!
I'm still trying to fit into my leathers. They are already my "fat leathers' and I refuse to order 'super fat leathers', lol.
@@BrockDavidson you crazy lol!
I'm thinking power-to-weight ratio changes a bunch between you two😅
Hello Brock from Greece.I've got a tracer 900 2020 with full exhaust,air filter and ecu program.If i put PC5 i got some hp more?Thanks.I love your explanation of your videos.
Hello @KOS CHAR - yes, as long as the bike is properly tuned,
@@BrockDavidson yes of course with properly tuned not just equip it.Thanks for fast response.
Great content...Error in video.... The gsx s 1000 motor is based off the 05- 08 gsxr 1000 motor (same as katana) and not based off the 09- 16 gsxr... Also the frame is 1 off, made specifically for the gsx s... You're right about swing arm (same as 09- 16 gsx r1000)
Thanks for the correction!
Any news on zh2 ecu flash, heard it's been got into....
We have been working with Bren Tuning Moto - get with them directly for the derestriction flash/handheld/cable. We are working on updated fuel maps for use with a PCV (higher rev and boost mapping) - we should have them available via our Map Support system very soon.
Is that one in the other room a new Hayabusa???
It is.
Let’s see numbers and development on the Gen3 Falcon
Meh...you think people really care about the G3 Busa?
If it uses that era gsxr motor I wonder if a sidewinder exhaust would fit
The sidewinder fits, the megaphone mounting bracket does not, and there is not enough demand to justify us producing one for this bike. To the best of my knowledge, we have had zero requests to date. Please go here to request: blog.brocksperformance.com/product-request/
@@BrockDavidson thank you for the reply if it's a matter of a bracket for the megaphone and that's all would Brock's be able to flash the ecu for use with that particular exhaust
The flash in the ECU would be that same - the mapping in the PCV would not match. It would either need a custom tune (preferred), or you could make your own map using an autotune if you don't have a dyno near you. Our dealer locator can help you find a dyno, just click that box in your search: blog.brocksperformance.com/dealer-locator/
Just bought a 2022 gsx-s1000….. read that the first gen penta exhaust fits the second gen. Can you confirm this?
@Mooremafia has installed them on the 23's, but we have not test fit ourselves.
@@BrockDavidson thank you
Hey Brock, how about instead of making videos, you catch up on producing exhaust systems so I can actually get one for my GSXS1000!!! Come on man.......I need one!!!!!!!
@Michael, they are listed here: brocksperformance.com/exhausts/ultra-light-stainless-full-systems/suzuki/katana-gsx-s1000/ a new batch should be made available very soon. If you are serious, please go here to see why you should place your order now: bit.ly/3k5aiQ3
you said it was a reasonable price mod. so $2000? i've been looking for one of these
would you put a stabilizer on it as well with its new willingness to wheelie?
@Cool Beans - a stabilizer is certainly not a bad idea.
Is this the same engine that’s in the new gt?
I read a bit on it, and it appears to use the K5 engine also :)
Brock, I have a 2002 Bandit 1200S stock that I’m planning to keep forever or as long as I live, and was wondering if you may be interested in making a video with it and add some upgrades since you have a history with the good old Bandit, may make good content??? BTW, bike was built 09/2001 stamped on the frame.
@Tony, our business model is to create parts and info. focusing on new, late model machines. The Bandits are fantastic bikes for certain, but they are not anything we would create products for these days. I can tell you that we used to wake them up with 41mm flat slide Kehin's and occasionally dropped GSX-R750 slingshot cams into them for sizable power gains without disrupting reliability. As well as converting the clutch assembly to GSX-R1000 or Katana if the bike will see the drag strip. I will have my 97 Bandit forever also, so I feel your passion for them :)
@@BrockDavidson appreciate the feedback and thank you for your quick response. Keep up the great work!!! 👍
Is the 2018 GSX-S 1000 F also from the same parts bin??
No. It has the K9 motor....still a good engine, but racers prefer the K5 for its power output and strength.
@@BrockDavidson So thats why it only goes to 145 bhp with a filter and exhaust.
@@erickvanes1285 yes. But a derestriction flash would bring it up considerably, as well as shorter stacks. It's capable of 175+ if done correctly.
Great job as always 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 that motor from the gixxer 08 is one of the greatest in that time and steel it’s on today ...... and a real question is.... have u seen the new video from the zh2 .... apparently one guy made it to crack the ecu and makes 222hp bonestock.. and send u the link, maybe u can contact with him and try something new .... just saying 😅.... U made the best for the best 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 congratulations Brock!!.. czcams.com/video/vQw1l6edhw4/video.html
Will a gen 1 Hayabusa make more hp with MR12?
Yes. 7-10 RWHP depending upon tune etc...
@@BrockDavidson Thanks for reply.
Mouse Trails Still A Thing Then, lol.
Old eye's need help 😉