Mexico World Cup 1986 - England vs Argentina. Full time analysis from BBC broadcast

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  • čas přidán 22. 02. 2023
  • Full time analysis from BBC World Cup Grandstand of England vs Argentina. As we all know, England lost this match 2-1 thanks to that Maradona brace. Interestingly, the panel of Des Lynam, Terry Venables and John Toshack also blamed England's tactics and lack of urgency until 2-0 as the reason for the loss. At the time they weren't totally blaming the handball.
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Komentáře • 54

  • @hussainaftab3515
    @hussainaftab3515 Před měsícem +8

    RIP Diego Armando Maradona (greatest player ever to play the game of football) & RIP Terry Venables & Emlyn Hughes

  • @johnmunro4952
    @johnmunro4952 Před měsícem +5

    The best and worst goals in world cup history. Amazing.

  • @garyhunt8067
    @garyhunt8067 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Remember the match like it was yesterday 😮

  • @gavinmillar461
    @gavinmillar461 Před 7 dny +2

    As Maradona said in an interview straight afterwards. “They won the World Cup 20 years previous to that by getting a goal that never went over the line in the final . He was a wee genius with a football, but knew how to wind up his opponents. Also his way to the white line. 👃. 😂. ✌️👍✌️

    • @painterbythesea
      @painterbythesea Před 6 dny

      The ball went over the line. Besides, it was not blatant cheating like using a hand to score a goal.

  • @robnewton3368
    @robnewton3368 Před 2 dny

    Despite the situation and disappointment, Bobby Robson saw things very clearly and honestly in his assessment.

  • @strzxgvnuvwvfld3597
    @strzxgvnuvwvfld3597 Před 2 měsíci +5

    It's interesting watching this very balanced analysis compared to the modern belief that we would've won that game (and probably the World Cup!) if it wasn't for Maradona's handball.
    Hughes and Venebles both are rightly critical of England's performance. We did very little until Barnes came on, they kept Lineker out of the game and we were lucky not to conceed a third.
    Even the wonder goal is often put down to an England player not taking him out, but it's pointed out here that Fenwick attempts to do that and Maradona is strong enough to stay on his feet (probably essential to his game in an era where skillful players didn't have the protection they have today).

    • @jk5335
      @jk5335  Před měsícem

      Familiar story for England. Get to the later stages against a big team and suddenly the mentality and approach changes . I've got the full match and some of the Argentina team were average or just good at best. England should have beat them.
      Diego carried them, didn't realise how good he was until I watched this match in full and saw the level of his supporting cast.

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 Před 12 dny

      @@jk5335 Sorry I don't agree with that...that was not an average Argentine team, they beat West Germany when Maradona was not playing well or doing very little...England lost against Portugal in the group stage (a game they would have won and swept the group if only Robson had set them up as they had been playing pre tourney)...The right team won...that is the best team and Venables et al all acknowledge that..Why can't we say we had an good WC and played some excellent attacking football which we did once the structure was in place going out to eventual winners..the only player in the England team that should not have played this match was Fenwick who was club defender at best..bringing Barnes and Waddle on later made sense, to have started with them would have meant a repeat of the group stage issues,,,When Waddle was played in the first two matches he just cramped up the space (either you played him on the right with licence to cut in or as a sub)...Possibly Wilkins could have been brought in as a screener for the defence..

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 Před 12 dny +1

      Argentina did their homework, policed the flanks..Stevens/Steven never combined and Hodge was negated..That was not Maradona doing that..

  • @kevchesters1194
    @kevchesters1194 Před 5 dny

    Had dinner sitting next to Hughes once. Lovely fella.

  • @stewartburns2473
    @stewartburns2473 Před 6 měsíci +8

    R.I.P Terry Venables

  • @lemat8558
    @lemat8558 Před 12 dny +1

    Hughes, miss him, such a great player.

  • @stephenmacdonald4443
    @stephenmacdonald4443 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I loved when barnes came on.
    Such positive play and giving diego and co a lot to think about the stretch.
    On watching the replay years later .i. amazed how slow the game was.
    Watching live was edge of seats stuff

    • @jk5335
      @jk5335  Před 10 měsíci +3

      I didn't watch this live, but it interesting that the pundits were obviously unhappy with the handball but were more disappointed with and blamed England's lack of attacking urgency until it was too late. A familiar story!

    • @bocjagne2878
      @bocjagne2878 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jk5335 I totally agree. England didn't start playing until they were two down.

  • @leeturton9254
    @leeturton9254 Před 23 dny +1

    Dad didn't take that game well...straight to the boozer we didn't see him for about 2 week 😂

  • @kailashpatel1706
    @kailashpatel1706 Před 29 dny +1

    RIP Treat Williams (The Dempsey Film at end)

  • @marewanmahmod1190
    @marewanmahmod1190 Před 3 dny

    Hand ✋️ God from Legende👑 Fotball Players in All Mondial Deigo Maradona wy Love you Best 🎯🌹💚✨️✨️💚✨️🌹✨️🎯

  • @eire3215
    @eire3215 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Was that the Aztec stadium?? 100 thousand plus capacity...you wont get atmosphere like that anymore

    • @jk5335
      @jk5335  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yep I believe it was Aztecs. I actually watched a match there in 2012?? between club America and Pumas, local derby. It is huge.

    • @jorged06
      @jorged06 Před 2 měsíci +1

      "Azteca"

  • @saccasantony4040
    @saccasantony4040 Před 4 měsíci +3

    What a shame var wasn't around what would emilyn and terry have said if an England had used their hand like diego did ?

    • @strzxgvnuvwvfld3597
      @strzxgvnuvwvfld3597 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Pretty sure Fenwick elbows Maradona in the face early in this game, so we'd have been down to 10 men in the blazing heat. It could've turned out worse than it did

  • @johncully4699
    @johncully4699 Před dnem +1

    Diego 2, England 1. ❤❤❤

  • @Sandoz-tq7qj
    @Sandoz-tq7qj Před 21 dnem +2

    John Barnes 👍

  • @meteozberk9776
    @meteozberk9776 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love bobby but his england career was a dissapointed except italy 90 which they werent one of the best teams in italy 90 to

    • @Revolver1981
      @Revolver1981 Před měsícem +1

      I think they were definitely one of the best teams in Italia 90 and could've won it if luck went their way.

  • @Britonbear
    @Britonbear Před 3 dny +1

    A different perspective on that goal; czcams.com/video/01zSHMkI-aQ/video.html

  • @mcharrisment4765
    @mcharrisment4765 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. Poor analysis though by the late Emlyn Hughes and El Tel (Rip 2 both)

    • @bocjagne2878
      @bocjagne2878 Před 2 měsíci +8

      You must be having a laugh. They were spot on with their analysis, excellent!

    • @steviehope7718
      @steviehope7718 Před 9 dny

      Wtf? 🤡

  • @meisterlymanu5214
    @meisterlymanu5214 Před 25 dny

    everyones dead in this clip, incl Maradona. Fk me, that crept up on us.

  • @johnhehir508
    @johnhehir508 Před měsícem +1

    If maradonna had been sent off for a deliberate hand ball, there would not be a second goal , referees always become useless mysteriously when FIFA wants England out of the world cup,

    • @Revolver1981
      @Revolver1981 Před měsícem

      Why would FIFA want England out of the World Cup?

    • @painterbythesea
      @painterbythesea Před měsícem +2

      Even the second goal of Maradona would not have happened if the referee had called foul on Glenn Hoddle being chopped down in mid field moments prior to the Maradona run.

    • @robertmac9057
      @robertmac9057 Před 29 dny +1

      @@painterbythesea Yes, by the letter of the law both of Maradona's goals should have been disallowed for fouls. I remember the game being tense but practically devoid of chances before the first goal although Argentina, and Maradona in particular, looked the more dangerous team. England created almost nothing until they went for broke at 2-0 down and brought on the wingers Barnes and Waddle.

    • @user-gz8nt9rb3z
      @user-gz8nt9rb3z Před 6 dny +1

      With VAR, England would have been down to 8 men for all the fouls they did on Maradona

    • @johnhehir508
      @johnhehir508 Před 6 dny

      @@Revolver1981 because the world cup organisers wanted an European and South American team in the final ,because at the time cable TV subscriptions were good profits ,And the president of the UEFA was a big share holder ,

  • @Sandoz-tq7qj
    @Sandoz-tq7qj Před 21 dnem +1

    Hand ball

    • @patiacat1
      @patiacat1 Před 22 hodinami

      Would be a yellow at worst. Learn the rules

  • @gumetachavezh
    @gumetachavezh Před 21 dnem +4

    "If I could do something again in my life, I would like to score again against England, this time with my right hand"--Maradona

    • @painterbythesea
      @painterbythesea Před 6 dny

      There is the evidence, he admits to using his left hand to score a goal. That is called cheating.