HOW TO MAKE A COMMON ROOF RAFTER | DIY Series | Build with A&E
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2019
- In this episode Tony shows you How to Make a Common Rafter
Aiming to build a roof on your shed or home? Here's a starting guide on how to cut yourself some common rafters that'll act as the main skeleton for it. If you're interested in the housing detail of the wall plate that's featured in this video, stay tuned! Because we'll be doing a follow-up video on that soon. Don't forget to like and subscribe. While you're here, why not follow us on Instagram for more regular updates on what we're up to 🏗️
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The simplest and least complicated version of getting the birds mouth in the correct place.. and boy have I watched loads. Superb vid buddy :)
Hi Jimothy Jimbob much appreciated i always hope we simplify things all the best Tony 👍
I love how you recessed the back plate, looks like that will be a nice finish. Not seen that before, thanks for sharing. 👍🏿
Great video very well explained and actually like the extra effort taken to do a good job
Good to see professionals at work doing quality work and sharing to help others 👍
Thanks 👍 Paul Lilly
That’s the great thing about everyone sharing knowledge.
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You clearly love what you do and the results show. Excellent channel. Thanks guys 👍 xx
Thanks for the lovely comment Barrington - plenty of more exciting content on the way. Have a great weekend 👍
Top class firm and videos are so well explained. Seen other tradesmen who can obviously do the work but can't teach or convey what they're doing as well as these guys. Best I've seen by far on CZcams. Well done for taking the time to make them during a busy day, keep it up fellas!
Hi coops66 thanks for your kind words, it’s having a great team which are like one big family we all love what we do. Thanks for watching keep Safe all the best Tony 👍
Another great video Tony, thanks for taking time out to share your knowledge 🙂
Hi vanderpant2116 thanks for your kind words, thanks for watching keep Safe all the best Tony 👍
Excellent Tony. Brilliant video. Thank you 👍
Great video with nice easy description of how to measure everything. Thanks, you saved me hours of searches!
This is a fantastic well explained video! Well done guys 👍🏽
THIS GUY IS A FREAKING WIZARD!!!!! Jokes aside on of the best YT channels around. Real value and quality!
Thank you for the kind words Ajmal, hope you have a great weekend! 👍
Great video guys! Very concise and detailed 👍
shaun watts thanks bud! More to come 😎👍
I love your attention to the small details
Thanks b21playa 😁
All the best, John 😊
Quality workmanship
Thanks so much Tony, so well explained
What a great video. I’ve watched a few- the American ones are very confusing being in imperial and not working in degrees for the roof pitch. This was very clearly explained and demonstrated and has given me the confidence to cut my rafter template today!
Hi Mark I’am glad you found the video helpful and enjoyable have a wonderful week all the best Tony 👍
THIS IS THE BEST ONE IV EVER SEEN 💯
Good joints there, quality joiner at work
Thanks bud 👍
Thanks, I’m a 65 yr old DIY guy about to build my first shed and this is really helpful. Your demonstration and explanation were clear and the camera work was effective. Not having any experience in the building trades, I have to learn as I go and it’s a lot of fun. Fortunately, my projects are all for myself so there’s not a lot of downside risk. Thanks again and keep up the good work!
i am 78 and been a carpenter for my life i have found before building something that is a little tricky I think about it and review all the problems in my head to know rafters you have to do them and review in your mind over and over to remember just how. but here is something you may know to determine the length of a common you take the span of the building add any shear or siding that may have been put on. so a 24 ' wide building with 1/2 ply shear would be 24' 1'' then deduct the thickness of the ridge say 1 1/2'' so it would be 23' 11 1/2 '' if you use a rafter book that would be the span . if you had a hip or valley ( they are both the same length) you would look under hip /valley use 23' 11 1/2'' and it would tell you the length of the hip or valley there is no shortening think about this the only part of the seat of the hip that touches the edge of the build is the very center of t he seat cut. the two edges using a 2x rafter would not touch the build they would be 3/4'' from the plate that is why you have to drop the hip
Very neat job guys. DIYer about to do mine this has been very useful, thanks
That would've taken me three days and six rafters! Great to see talent make things look so straight forward!! Envious!
I’ve found that when you work on older buildings, the wall plate is pissed as well as the ridge/wall plate; that’s when things get interesting.
I worked with a roofer one time that did a hip roof roof for me and he didn’t have a roofing square, just plonked the timber into position above the actual area, marked it off with a handsaw and on it went. I was impressed.
The first 1,000 rafters are the hardest, it gets easier after that !
Great job 👏 well explained
Wish I had a boss like Tony!
wonderfull, this is the first time i got the proper idea how to use birdmouth, c cut p cut and above all the square... brilliant.
Thanks for watching! 👍
buildability wise perfect, thank you
Glad you like it! 👍
Thank you very much, very helpful.
Amazing. Simple explanations 👍
Thanks Farooq, have a great week 👍
Thanks brother, really easy to follow instruction good Sir ! Much appreciated !
Hi Mark thanks for your kind words, thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍 have a awesome weekend
Very well explained - thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Paul all the best Tony 👍
Awesome man you are the man
And me with my ready reckoner in the van 😂😂😂, a tape measure as a string line Is all you need! Top work guys, thanks for sharing those tricks. (Loved the notched on the plumb cut 👌)
Hi frechgreguk much appreciated ready reckoner is good so many different ways now, don’t normally do the notch it was all down to the detail from the architect with clean line fixing from underneath ie plasterboard all the best Tony 👍
You Explained this mint helped me loads doing it for the first time, Thank you very much
Thanks for watching Carlos 🙏
Such a good video, so well explained
Great video, great chanel! Thanks for uploading.
Thanks Owen have a awesome week 👍 all the best Tony 👍
Great stuff! From Kalamazoo, Michigan
Hi David thanks for your kind words, Kalamazoo, Michigan sounds an awesome place to live, thanks for watching, all the best Tony 👍
Hi Tony brilliant video, you just make sound straight forward cheers.
Hi imy much appreciated we are glad you found the video informative all the best Tony 👍
A wonderful tutorial, thank you for taking your time to explain the small details. I'll be subscribing :)
Hi Sumeet Sharma thanks for your kind words, glad that you enjoyed the video, keep Safe all the best Tony 👍
Very good videos, excellent stiff . keep them coming
More to come! Thanks for watching 👍
Cheers for the tutorial it’s good to see tradesmen showing their skills, I remember years ago when I asked builders on how to do certain things it was like getting information out of a secret society, keep showing well done 👍
Hi Blue Boy isn’t that the free mason lot 😂 I know what you mean thanks for watching keep Safe all the best Tony 👍
very well explained.
Quality vid, as usual. We'll done.
Much appreciated! 👍
Loved this best explanation ever now a new subscriber
Hi psymon thanks for your kind words and subscribing, keep Safe all the best Tony
What a fantastic lesson on Making a birdsmouth cut in a rafter. 👍🏾 Thank you so much for doing this video and making it plain and simple. I got so fed up of the USA videos with the big song and dance nonsense, loud rock or country & western music 🤷🏽♂️ and the feature length movies were driving mad and I learned nothing from them. You’re a star mate, well done 👍🏾👍🏾
Great vid, subbed 👍
Thanks for the Sub, glad you enjoyed more roofing content coming on a new project 👍,have a great weekend
Really good job on this Tony. It is hard to make it look so simple
Hi Roger thanks for your kind words it’s much appreciated, hope you are all well, We really enjoy your channel because its great to see that you make the time to bring great content to everyone and it is much appreciated, have a great week all the best Tony 👍
This is how Iv always done my rafters, but I keep seeing where people plumb down from The top of rafter to find back of birds mouth. I just can’t get my head around how that way works! Unless you add in the height above plate before you calculate it? Top of rafter to top of rafter is different than top of rafter to corner of wall plate...I was pleasantly surprised to see your method is the same as mine, but the reason I’m watching is to get my head around the other method....still no joy 😂 cheers mate 👍🏻
Beautiful video and craftsmanship 🥰 and non of the make believe BS ...
keep them coming and be proud
Thanks for watching, have a great week! 👍
Great work
Thank you so much 😀👍
Great vid! New to the channel but loving it, thanks:)
Thanks for watching Tim
Superb
thanks great tutorial video and very professionally done its always nice to see
Glad you enjoyed it Barry! 👍
Excellent instructional technique again Tony. You'll have Robin Clevitt sweating producing roofs of that standard. Lol.
Hi Steve thanks for your kind words it means a lot to us all. If I could be half as good as Robin I would be happy, he is what I class a true craftsman passion and true love for his craft, thank you for the compliment, have a awesome weekend thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍
Great video, it makes me feel that I can do that , as when I have watched various videos it is quite confusing for me , and tools that they use would cost more than the extension I am building, thank you once again 👍
nice man
Brilliant, thank you
Hi Phil much appreciated thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍 have awesome weekend
This is an ABSOLUTELY fantastic video. I've watched tons of rafter videos & the explanations are all really confusing & it's difficult to see what is actually being cut etc. This guy makes it crystal clear. The bit where he measures from the wall plate to wall plate is helpful, rather than pissing around doing some ridiculous maths equation, which every other video seems to do
Hi Jackson Wood much appreciated all the best Tony 👍
And that’s how it should be done ‘ great camera Man U have there
Hi Martin Byrne glad you enjoyed the video all the best Tony 👍
Great use of a hand saw, carpenter!
Hi Tod much appreciated
It’s nice to do it by hand some times have a awesome weekend all the best Tony 👍
Superb thank you
Knows what hes doing good video
Hi Jack Jack thanks for your kind words all the best Tony 👍 keep safe
What a great 'how to' video. Not sure why I haven't found your channel before now but I've now subbed. 👍
Thanks Jim really appreciate your comment and thanks for being a subscriber.👍
Love that notch in the ridge piece I'm a plasterer and the timber sat on top ( the way the joiners I follow do it ) really spoils the job
Hi Robert Pearson thanks man all the best Tony 👍 keep safe
great job and video a master class sir
Hi Rubel Miah thanks for your kind words it means a lot to use all, all the best Tony 👍
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the reason I said sir is because I have been trying to learn this skill for about 10 years and got it just watching you video once thank you
Just subscribed to your channel, i like the way you explain things in a simplistic manner.
Hi graham thanks for subscribing it means a lot to use all. We are glad you enjoyed the video thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍 have awesome day
You know you're experienced when you can eyeball the exact 400mm mark! haha
Hi Marcus pure luck 😂 thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍
16inch in my day
Great informative video!! Do you have a video of doing the joint on the ledger? I’ve tried to find but couldn’t see. Thanks!!
Thank you
Bravo
Thanks for watching, take care 👍
Great job you do, I was waiting to see if you skew nailed to the wall plate, or
would it be practical to use screws?
Only changing a flat roofed porch to a pitched, but this is perfect. Thanks
Hi Paul glad it helped all the best Tony 👍
Hi, great video, really informative. Now means I can replace my crappy flat roof. I have a question about the wall plate that is screwed onto the house. How do you take into account the spacing if there is a waste pipe in the way? (I have a sink and bath waste pipes in the way)
Bit of a coincidence, I was behind your Flatbed at The Shires the other day. All your accreditation stickers on the back of the wagon caught my eye. And now you pop up in my CZcams feed! Hmmm...
It's a small world 👍
@@BuildWithAE Been following your Extension series - very impressive work and attention to detail. Having lived here for 6 yrs I was beginning to give up all hope of finding good trades in the local area!
I got it yippee many thanks
Thanks for watching bud, take care 👍
Buen video
Never seen that notching on rafters before. Beautiful 👍
Hi Zed Man sorry about late reply, the old boy who taught me, had loads of these little tricks awesome guy all the best Tony 👍 keep safe
How is it done?
Amazing video had to hit the like button👍🏽
I love that notching wall plate idea never seen that done but did you follow any rule for the depth of notch?
Thank you
Hi Sunday Footy no major rule, putting a 10mm housing with a third notch kept a lot of material on the timber. One of the rules I was always told by an old boy never more than a third out of any timber so always try and stick to that rule with most things notching housing, hope this helps thanks for watching and Keep Safe .
Great! If your rafter is 6x2 do you still use the 1/3rd rule for the birdsmouth or is it less as it's smaller?
Hi lovely work, would you not hanger the rafter on? Notch a bit out the underside for the foot?
great job and looks really nice, can you show or explain ples how to cut out the notch part on wall ledger for rafter to insert into? also where on rafter would you insert screws? would it be side on or top and bottom of rafter? thanks heaps from new zealand
Simple explanation of how to cut the rafter , lot better than skillbuilder explanation fare to technical and no showing off and boasting,
Hi cj thanks for your kind words, a bit harsh on skillbuilder bud, Roger has been sharing knowledge with people for years and is a amazing plumber and Robin is an extremely talented carpenter, come on they are cool 😎 dudes keep safe all the best Tony 👍
Build With A&E not saying they aren’t good tradespersons ,noticed recently they seem to be a bit cocky , keep safe your self 👍🏻
Great explanation Tony. After you measure and mark the first rafter do you just cut copies for the other rafters or would you have to measure every rafter individually to take into account any small deviations of the wall plate? Tks
Hi Lee much appreciated glad that you enjoyed the video, I always measure each rafter on an old build because most of the time they run out, I think from memory this ran out by 30mm, new build is totally different, in theory they should be all the same, have a great week thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍
Good job ! But I’m curious , would it be better with joist hangers as well! Do they even do joist hangers at different deg or have I just had my dragons den light bulb moment
How did you ever cope with that old roofing square Tony. LOL. Quality as ever
😂😂😂 it will be do remember when 😂
Very neat work. QUESTION. What did you use to attach the ledger to the brick work please? Are there anything specific building regs require these days in the UK
Hi Tim Wyld sorry about late reply they a M10 concrete bolts engineer we had detailed everything so a lot easier for us, thanks for watching all the best Tony
nice work
Great video. At 10:20 you show the mortise/ type notch for the rafter to the ledger board. Is this connection fastened with screws and bolts? Also do you have a video on how you did the notch for the ledger connection?
Hi Scott I will look in the video file to see if we have that footage if we have I will post it all the best Tony 👍
Hi Tony excellent video, you are teaching me how to fit my roof joists the only bit missing was how you notched wall plate! Is there another video with that info? Many thanks Mike #everydayisaschoolday 👍👍
Hi Micheal I think we might have that in the earlier footage if we have I will send it over to you or will post it on CZcams or Instagram, have a great week thanks for watching all the best Tony 👍
@@BuildWithAE brilliant you begin to show traditional way of doing it then cut to mounting up to the wall plate this way but never show how it's done! Or why it was done like this on this occasion 👍
Can you do a video on marking out hip/vall rafters
Hey William we have a two Storey back extension with single storey to the side, this will have plenty of valleys,hips, Jacks and common
rafters coming up in future episodes, We will be showing the drawings on one of the early episodes which will give people a chance to ask a question about any part of the build to be explained. Thanks Tony 👍
Good video, nice flow and informative. One question though the birds mouth was detailed earlier as being a third of the timber? The final cut out looks to be less than that? If so, why? Maybe to keep depth of rafter for insulation detail? (New subscriber 😉)
Noticed this too
That's what I noticed, great vid though.
Great videos from you guys, but could you explain how you work out where to fix the wall plate
Hi Andrew,
The height of the wall plate is usually determined by the architects drawings. The height of the finished roof would have been authorised by the planning committee, and so we must adhere to that.
Hope this helps.
All the best, John 😊
Hi there thanks for this - extremely helpful as I'm planning a 3m long porch roof outside the front door. How did you work out what size timbers you need? My porch will have a toughened glass roof. Don't suppose I need 8x2 for that? Many thanks. Ben
Hi Ben if you look at the trada rafter/joust book on line also speak to an engineer with regards to weight of glass and snow load all the best Tony 👍
Awesome video - we are just about to add a lean to roof over a patio. Do you cover Bexhill?
Sorry no 👍
How is the back plate attached to the wall? are they self tapping concrete screws? would you use them for perforated engineering bricks. cheers
5.50 - Do you measure from top of the rafter plate to the back of the wall plate the same as the other version with the rafter sitting on top of the rafter plate with the bit of the bottom notched out?
Great video..thank you. How did you make the recess cut into the wall plate into which the common rafter sits ? Did you use a router or did you a chisel and hammer ? Just thinking if there is a easier way to do it ? Thanks again.
Hi much appreciated chisel and mallet 👍
great video , could you actually explain how you fix the rafter to the back plate
Hi George top of rafter with decent length washer screw or each side or use a rafter metal clips with 35mm twist nails all the best Tony 👍
Hi Tony, really usefull video with attention to all detail, Please could you tell me the make and size of that roofing square you ard using please? Thanks very much
I was using Dan’s Roofing square and the Old Stanley sq go on to eBay 👍
Love watching these videos top guys just one quick question, would it not be quicker/easier to just use the joists hangers? Or what's the reason for using the joint? Doing my own extension with the help of local family builders in the near future and your videos are giving me so much knowledge, I'm a engineer in food factories so this is out off my comfort zone lol
Great workmanship. Question though, why the halving joint on the plumb cut? Never seen that before on any roof old or new, and never seen a regular plumb cut connection fail either. Looks great though👌
Would be better doing a birds mouth on the top plumb cut surely?
dalerobertmoore I’ve done a few with birdsmouth on the top plumb cuts and they are notched in to help prevent twisting
@@chriscoulson7684 I've never notched in the top plate just seem very overkill, 3 nails in sides one on top it won't move much definitely won't affect the roof. Must have good price on the job so far play to them. Great stair making video his got
dalerobertmoore yes it’s very overkill
Nice neat job. How do you achieve the height of the plate fixed to the wall? Surely you need a rafter length first?
Hi James the wall plate was set in stone by the Architect, we had to drop down a certain distance off the window sill line, so no rafter length required. Thanks for watching keep Safe 👍
to get the height of any ridge which is what the wall plate is from where the rafter seat sits on the outside of the wall measure to the wall deduct the width of the ridge or ledger say you have a measurement of 3 ' 8 '3/8'' deduct 1 1/2'' inches 3' 6 and 7/8'' say your rafter rises 4 '' per foot 4 x 3 is 12'' then to get the odd inches use a framing square draw a 4-12 on a board and slide the square following the run part of the square until you read 6 7/8'' as you slide it the distance will start to decrease on the rise part of the square when you have 6 7/8'' read the measurement it would be about 2 1/4'' next add the height above plate at the seat and that would be the top of the wall if you use a 2/6 rafter the height above plate would be about 4 1/2''