Mosaic Review: Quick Turn Civilization Game
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Tom Vasel, Roy Cannaday, And Mike DiLisio takes a look at Mosaic!
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Overview 1:11
Final Thoughts 11:38
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Thanks for the videos, guys. Are you aware that Tom's mic sounds like it's underwater at times? I noticed it on the GenCon Top Ten video, too. Seemed odd considering all the tech improvements you've made, so thought I'd point it out.
Thanks for the video!
I received my copy (Colossal Edition) and have played several solo games and no regrets on going all in, even with the high cost.
I only play solo games and will be keeping this game in my collection.
Well, my excitement for my pledge just skyrocketed! Really glad I jumped in at the last minute
Thank you for the review, guys! Mosaic looks good for an upcoming present for someone.
Glad I backed this. I love Civilization on PC, and so was hoping this would scratch that itch without being as complicated as some other civilization board games.
Thanks for letting us know you are glad you backed this. Gratz!
Really enjoy this trio. More videos with Roy please.
I have backed this game but still waiting for it to arrive... I needed something that would play like civ one of my fav computer games, only thing I don't like is the end game, I hate when the game ends due to a time trigger or a card showing up to end the game rather than the player achieving some goal that triggers the end because it makes you fill unfulfilled when the game ends... otherwise, the game looks great... I also backed the military war expansion that just has been launched on Kickstarter...thanks for the video ... great as always
One thing I wish was specified on the board and/or player aid is that military has a max of 2 recruit per turn. It mentions it in the rule book but not on the board/aid. This really jacked up my first game because everyone was paying 60 money at the end to put 12 military out and spending another 10 to move most of them to adjacent places and it was insane.
Completely different game if you know you can only recruit a max of 2.
Would love to know your thoughts on the Wars & Disasters expansion.
Looks very good. I passed on the KS due to the cost but if someone passes a used copy on in the future for a decent price then I will definitely pounce on it.
Mosaic is so good! I've played it once and I love how fast the turns go.
We built that Civ is now stuck in my head, thanks Mike!
I am so excited to get my colossus edition. I have been looking for an easier teach since Through the Ages, A New Story... "Okay everybody watch Paul G's video first.... This looks to be right up my alley. Thanks for the review. 👍
How does it play solo?Is it BYOS or are you playing against an AI opponent?Is it worth it to back it for soloplay only?
So glad I’m in on this. Pump it into my veins. I can’t wait to play this game
Once again super excited for this to arrive.
nice review! I missed the kickstarter, but it looks like the civ game I've been looking for!
Giddy backer here! Almost everyone who’s reviewed this game loves it, so I can’t wait to get my copy! 😁
Aw man. Now I want this game too. My previous purchase is with the courier for delivery right now...and I am already checking on the cost for my next purchase 🤣
I'm looking for a Civ game where also military is significant & where you have to defend your cities like in real life or having diplomacy. Is there such a thing?
Excellent review
Props for the Inuyasha shirt. Game is pretty good, too.
I’ve backed this, I can’t wait for it to arrive!
Can't wait for this one to arrive.
Maybe when the expansion comes out their rating will boost higher then a 8.5.
This is a big relief after having backed the Colossus pledge myself and initial feedback seemed mixed on they strategy side. Does this game have any potential at 2 players?
I tried it at 2 players when it was on KS, and I almost didn't back it because of that experience. They do have a variant to constrain the map for a small number of players, but the card market stagnated, and it took a LOT of turns to get through the decks. I don't know whether those issues have been fixed.
@@lisamarin8836 The game wasn't balanced back then. That issue was absolutely solved.
It's really great at 2 players! Super fast and really exciting.
I disagree. I just purchased this and had all those problems.
So it's the opposite of Through The Ages? Sweet!! (Re: Lots of good choices each turn)
Thanks for the review! Game looks great, I'm very interested. Did anyone experience this game 2 player? How was that?
Also, something is wrong with Tom's microphone I think!
The map shrinks with 2 and the game is phenomenal IMO
I've played on TTS and it's a PITA to set up with all the tokens. There has got to be a better way to set this up.
TTS is a pain in the ass for games like this. We're never doing that again. It gave people the wrong impression of this game. Setup takes about 10 Minutes. Game Time is 2 hours. Totally worth it!
The setup is easily the most irritating part of the game. I have a medium-sized Miniature Market bag that I use as a draw bag, and I just fill the board from the bag left to right, while placing drawn special tiles similarly left to right, top to bottom. That removes the absolute *IDIOCY* of flipping tiles over repeatedly.
those minis need a wash on them. that would bring the details on them out a lot more
Great, another one I have to add to my wishlist :P The only thing is I'm getting tired of these big box games taking up all the space on my shelf. I hope big box fatigue will kick in soon with the community so this trend will stop. However I understand this one is a civ game so I would expect it to be a larger production.
Yes, its a big box but unlike other games, all the space is used to contain the insane amount of pieces. If they would have made the box smaller, pieces wouldnt fit together.
Aw I passed on this KS 😭😭😭
We are launching the Expansion Kickstarter October 13, and will have some Premium Colossus Editions for sale during that KS
How far does this game goes? Is it a Civ game if we only play ancient times. More and more games do that now to cut on time and complexity they are focused on smaller period of time is it the same here? I do prefer TtA where you go from ancient times right up to the modern times it is longer but you have that real feel of developing
I'm happy to have backed this game.
Tapestry is a heavily abstracted Civ game, my group dint like it, it was not logical in its progression, it was point salad, and unsatisfying in terms on understanding your progress. How do you feel this plays in initial comparison, thx
This one I am glad I backed!
Nice review. Will we see a review of the solo mode? ;)
Soon
How is this game compared with Scythe and Tapestry?
Designer here, so maybe biased: Mosaic is much more robust with lots more diversity of strategies and no game feeling the same, compared to Scythe, which I find scripted. I haven't played Tapestry, but from what I've heard, Mosaic is far more balanced, so the games are always tighter, and no OP starting civs/ leaders.
I loooove Scythe and don't find it scripted at all, but it's a pretty different game. I feel like Glenn did a great job of taking some of the best parts of several different games and fitting them into a seamless, quick package.
Mosaic (which I've only played once, at GenCon) doesn't scratch the engine-building itch that Scythe does. It is similar in that you can have as much or as little player interaction as you want, and that you can take different strategic paths, but how production works is pretty different. It's a table hog (like Scythe), there are lots of moving parts that seem overwhelming at first (like Scythe), but it isn't overwhelming at all after a few rounds (like Scythe). I think it plays a little quicker. I'm super glad my Super Massive Edition is on its way and I think it's poised to get a lot of table time around here. (Haven't played Tapestry, can't speak to that.)
@@adamphelps9612 I played Mosaic today. It feels like Earth with civilization themes. Mosaic has multiple paths of victory because in certain ways, you gain points from multiple paths. Scythe appears to be more brain-burny party because it has an extremely strong area control elements.
It looks good, but why would I want to play this over Terraforming Mars or Ark Nova? Just an honest question.
I like all three very much...but to be honest, I like Mosaic just a bit more.
Let me answer you by asking you back similar question : Why would you want to watch Marvel movie over Jurrasic World movie or Lord of the Rings ?
Tip : Because they are diffrent products.
This one can accommodate more players and is not as long. Would be better for a casual game night
The retail edition also doesn't have a score board which is really wierd for a gma with mid game scoring.
I’d cooled on this, but this review relit the fire.once again pumped for this to land.
Mine arrived an hour ago
there aren't always good things to do, starving for resources is very real - especially when you are trying to play the game with minimum turns lost in production
D'aaaw!!! Looks like I'll get fomo hard! I was on the cusp of backing and decided not to :-p
Does anyone know why it's called Mosaic?
It's because there are "Nine pillars of civilization: science, economy, food, population, building, culture, government, military, and urbanization" and which you choose to focus on, some deeply, some lightly, creates your unique mosaic of elements for your civilization as you play. The map board even has a mosaic tiled look to it.
Really interested in this game but the retail edition comes with no score board OR score pad. Seems like such a poor decision for a game with multiple scoring phases. Seems almost inconvenient on purpose...
The gameplay feels a bit flat to me. Personally I find Clash of Cultures: Monumental offers more excitement, and a deeper level of engagement with and connection to your civilisation overall.
Hmm sounds good, I'll have to give it a look, but it was too expensive on the KS for a giant card game. Also his last couple of games didn't work for me.
Ha, that's the thought I had while watching this review. "This could have been a card game".
@@uplift-yourdailypickup6424 Not at all! The area majority and board development is a key part of the game.
Yeah, I don't see that "could have been a card game" at all. The set collection is just one of many important pieces.
Review it when you get back from essen 👍
My primary complaint is the box is ~1/4 inch too wide to fit in a kallax- a silly mistake for them to make
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No playing well with 2 or 3 players is a major problem for me... Had to pass...
Many have enjoyed it at 2, and personally I think it plays great at 3.
@@simonmounsey4191 I am going by the BGG ratings... Seems to be preferable at higher player counts...
@@dddmmm21 preferable, sure I can see, but I don't think it's one of those where you might as well not play tbh. I will be curious to see if that player count vote changes once more people play though
Sometimes I wish I could start things with 5 ideas.
Life doesn't always give you what you want.
Glad I got the standard version. The mini are so ugly lmao, why do people buy them if you can't paint them? Wish there was a wooden option
U should see Glenn’s painted set then. Stunning. These minis can definitely be painted.
Yes, they can definitely be painted. The ones shown in the Dice Tower playthrough look like ceramic or metal after they've been painted.
Why would you assume they can't be painted? People paint these sorts of minis all the time.
I have 2 issues; 1) I don't like monochromatic components. They remind me of 90's MB games and just look like a sea of color to me. 2) Generic military? So infantry & cavalry are the same? Weird.
They are the same initially, but gain unique powers through technology.
@@glenndrover5914 Thanks, Glenn. I thought there might have been more than Tom mentioned.
There's also siege engines if you buy that technology, which give you a scoring boost in a region by negating the opponent's city influence there.
It's strange that they chose Europe as the map and not the Middle East. Western Europe was just a backwater of ancient civilizations. They have the Hanging Gardens while Babylon is not even on the map! This would bother me thematically very much.
The Mediterranean was a hotbed of Civilization development in the Bronze Age and Iron Age as well: Egypt, Minoans, Sea Peoples. The reason that we chose it was that it was home of several of the most famous Civilizations: Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Phoenician/ Carthage, Gauls, Persians/ Assyrians/ Babylonians. I wanted to also show the fertile crescent on the map, but it made it too elongated.
@@glenndrover5914 sure, Eastern Mediterranean is certainly part of this advent of human civilization. But Babylon, Sumer, Elam, Persia and the whole Tigris and and Euphrates region is missing (not to mention even Indus valley and China) and the game still includes the Hanging Gardens as a world wonder. This seems a little bit thematic disconnected. But maybe this wonder could also be the Hanging Gardens of Gregovia? Although the level of advancement in Celtic Gaul compared to Mesopotamia was very low. The presentation is just very euro-centric, what probably makes sense in regard to marketing. But I think I might like the game anyway as it seems right in my alley. And I'd be happy to try it in Essen naext month.
I also like Great Western Trail although it bothers me that you have to drive cattle east to Kansas City and then ship it westward to San Francisco (glad they fixed it with the Rails to the North expansion - don't know who it is in the new edition). And it was a reason, I didn't buy it (also didn't need to as a friend in my gaming group owns it). It might be pedantic, but as a scholar of history it makes me cringe when such little historical details are off.
My 14 year old was pretty nitpicky when he saw the board in terms of history too, but after he played it he was hooked. (He was complaining about the Scythe map last weekend, trying to figure where the heck in Europe it is supposed to be...) I think if you're not making a historical wargame, the designer will often have to make some concessions--to get a printable map, to get enough factions for six players, etc. To me it's a civ game, not civ re-enactment.