NAMI BURN-E Review and full performance test data
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- Nami Burn-E Viper full review (geni.us/BurnE2), tune in to learn about it's record breaking performance and the the various aspects that makes the Nami Burn-E Viper, an innovative great new scooter.
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Intro: 00:00
Basics: 00:38
Price: 01:16
Performance: 01:32
Ride Quality: 05:15
Build Quality: 06:35
Portability: 09:23
Safety: 10:27
Pros/Cons: 11:19
Conclusion: 11:34
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Which scooter shall we pit the Nami Burn-E Viper (geni.us/vTQwFCa?track=yt
) against in the a scooter showdown? Who will win? Let us know in the comments!
Pls do a review or live stream on the new vsett 10 aplus or can you pls tell us if you all
Pls
Please Apollo Phantom or even better the ludicrous. It's not all about speed, safety and build quality along with after sales service to me are 3 more important things. I was gutted when Boosted rev went bust in my option is still the best built scooter ever made, shame the battery let it down. Mines still in the garage awaiting for a company to mod the battery and controller 😊
The Apollo Phantom Ludicrous and the Rion would be a good match-up.
Burn-E vs Dualtron Storm 🛴🛴
I was willing to buy a dualtron x... Then I saw the burn-e.... Then my pockets said "sorry bro" so I bought the wold king. No regrets. Still amazing scooter and do what I need
I was expecting a flat out glowing review, but you actually mentioned basically all the negatives surrounding the scooter as well. Really great review, you killed it Paul!
Thank you so much @Henning! -Paul
My neighbor let me try out his burn e yesterday! Coming from a D4+ I couldn’t have imagined how smooth the sine controller acceleration would be. It was really able to go walking speed but also accelerate immediately without surprising even the most inexperienced rider. I’d argue for safety reasons alone that beats almost any scooter!!
I'm so glad that ESG finally tested the BURN-E! When will you guys test the Rion Thrust? It's $9,500 + shipping, but it'll blow away your acceleration and top speed records again!
I'm really looking forward to riding the Rion. I've heard I may have access to one within a month. I hope to be able to generate some nice acceleration curves, and possibly even find the top speed.
-Paul
That scooter is 6000 t hey got a fjl it 9500
It only go 80 but i got 11xzero 2021 and it hard to say on it at 60
@@kevinreeves3161 the 11x zero. Is basically same design as the vssets right? I have a little nanrobot d6+ nothing crazy. But I hit 43.4mph with a good tail wind! Now I want a 60 to 65 mph scoot lol. My buddy let me drive his weped and good lord! That thing is soo hard to open all the way up. You almost cant do it lol. It just goes against physics lmao
@@keithkeef6635 how hard is it to ride the Blade X full throttle? Alien Rides nearly went over the handle bars while braking, if I remember correctly. Do higher end scooters have safety features that prevent braking so dangerously?
I have a WWPRO currently and was looking to get the Kaabo WW11+ but I feel like you just convinced me to spend an extra 2k to get the Burn-e.
Can't wait to see what y'all do with this one! 👽🖖
👽👽👽
@@davidvosk8146 I hope there’s techno 🤞
Thanks! I had some crazy stuff planned, that didn't make it in, but there is a suprise at the end. -Paul
Wow! Just came across this channel. Super in depth! Great review! Can’t wait for my Dualtron Thunder 2 to arrive!🤘🏽😆
So glad you found us Jay! We also have a nice website with a searchable scooter database.
Congratulations on your Dualtron Thunder 2! -Paul
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Thank you ESG , amazing video!
Thanks for watching! This scooter took us all through a pretty big adventure! -Paul
Exceptional Review!
Thank you so much John! -Paul
Recently upgraded my Gotrax to an Emove Cruiser which felt so expensive to do. Can't imagine spending $4k on a scooter but one can always dream a little watching reviews.
Great Review Team ESG! Really enjoyed it
Great video. ✅ DON'T BEND YOUR BACK WHEN YOU'RE LIFTING ANYTHING. This scooter is very heavy. Can be made even lighter & stronger. In today's word a bright screen is a must if you care to look at it in bright sunlight 😎🌞 !!!
No excuses! Great scooter.
See you again soon 🔜.
Thank you.
Great content as always:) I just got some slime for my 10 inch tires. How much slime is recomended to be used? Keep up the great work, guys :)
Apparently only 2 ounces. I hadn't seen this before, but they have a calculator on their website. I think you'd be safe with anywhere between 2 and 4 ounces though. -Paul
nice review!
Best Review Always by Rider Guide❤
Thanks a ton
cant wait till u guys review the storm limited and thunder 2!!
We've just started testing our Storm, but it's the normal 72V version. Review coming in about 3 weeks. We also have a Thunder, still in the box that we'll review soon too. There will be a lot of Dualtron content coming! -Paul
great reviews....is there any chance of a comparision between nami and the wolf king gt.....many thanks carl
Definitely, my next scooter 👌🏻
"And, easier to lift." Quick cut the camera! Ha great video guys!
Ha ha! Yeah easier still doesn’t mean easy, for sure! But I’d rather lift this one three times than lift the Wolf once! -Paul
love the esg videos keep em coming, quick question at 7:05 you say it has zoom brakes, are these nutt brakes just zoom with a different name, or was that a snafu, cause i know my mantis pro has zoom brakes
I just messed up! They're Nutt brakes . I think we did another take where I said it correctly, but I didn't catch it during editing. -Paul
What about the RION Thrust against the Nami Burn-E? I think that is the comparison video we NEED to see next!
This would be awesome! I hope to get some time on a Rion soon. Hopefully a top speed run too. -Paul
Could you explain why you compared the Burn-E to the Wolf King rather than to the Rion Thrust? Wouldn't the Thrust be a closer comparison in terms of craftsmanship and specs?
Yes, absolutely! Either one is a little bit of a mis-match (NAMI/RION or NAMI/King), in terms of price and performance, but, I would have loved to compare it to a Rion, but haven't had access to one yet for testing. We're hoping to get our hands on one soon.
Thanks for the review! I was wondering if there is an offroad tire variant? Thanks
The rims can accomodate offroad tires. It uses the same road-tire size as the Kaabo Wolf Warrior and Wolf King. My main concern would be fender clearance though. I can't remember having seen one set up that way yet, but it seems like it should work. -Paul
This is an incredible scooter. I wish I would have known about this when I got my storm in January (I know it wasn't even a rumor then). One thing I don't like about the viper is the controls for horn and signals are on the same side as the throttle. I wonder if they can be moved to the other side?
I think they can be moved, but there are already some switches on the other side. I'll check it out on Monday when I'm back in the office.
We'll be reviewing the Storm next and have already started riding it. That thing is bonkers! What do you think of yours? What settings do you ride with? (it's crazy that it still does front wheel burnouts in ECO mode!)
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you so much for the reply, Paul! I can't wait for you review of the storm! I do love this scooter and is the best scooter I own. My settings are as follows:
P0 11
P1 72
P2 15
P3 0
P4 1
P5 1
P6 0
P7 5
P8 100
P9 3
PA 1
PB 3
PC 005
PD 0
I have very little gripes about this scooter, outside its top speed. I'm a little on the heavy side at 220lbs and have achieved a top speed of 50mph. I was hoping to see more when advertised was over 62mph, and do understand 62+mph is under specific riding conditions including rider weight. However, I have become quite comfortable riding slower, which is why I am on full slow start in my settings. The suspension cartridges are quite stiff, but it makes me more confident that it'll stick to the road better. I love the huge deck and insanely loud horn. But my oh my, I'll spill more beans when your review gets uploaded. You guys have the most intuitive reviews and I'm excited to see what you guys think of the storm!
I'm getting a WEPED SS but I think this may be my next year's buy.
Mainly because of those sinewave controllers and suspension😎
Very curious to hear how you like the Weped! I've never had a chance to ride one. Very rare scooters. -Paul
What did you Get?
with an IP55 rating, would like to see a rain test on it. Philippine rainy season from June to August means it's only a matter of time that you will get caught by a sudden rain shower. hence I'm not getting much riding time with my weped FF which uses fans for cooling the controllers, no bueno when it rains
We won't have any rain here until fall, but I'll bet Michael Sha has done quite a bit of testing in the wet. I'd feel pretty comfortable riding it in the rain. -Paul
I was looking at the Dualtron Strom but now I’m thinking of going this route
I’m very interested of getting the Nami Burn E 2 Max. Do you know if it comes with regeneration Brakes, like the Kaabo Mantis Bro Thanks.
Nicely done
Thank you so much Barany!
-Paul
Would you recommend the Nami Burn E or the Extreme Bull K4?
But vsett 11+ beated wolf king in every test, would be great if you guys compare it vs vsett 11+
We haven't got our hands on one of those yet. Have you seen any acceleration curves on the 11+ that you can share? -Paul
What were the sneakers you were wearing? The ones with the orange Nike swoosh. They look cool.
Could you let us know exactly how you dialled-out the wobble with the suspension adjustment? Did you stiffen the front spring and increase the rebound control?
I added two turns of pre-load to the front, removed one turn of preload from the rear, and set damping to 15.5 our of 16 clicks. I think I have the front at 15.9 out of 16 right now. Which means, it really could use stiffer valving inside. -Paul
look at that hill climb!!! btw Chuck sounds a little different, hahahaha
A great review. How tall is is compared to a Ninebot Max?
Taller for sure by a few inches
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks. I’m 5”5, do you think I’d manage one height wise or would it be too big you think?
NICE VIDEO ;) ! Can I use excerpts from the video (without sound) to illustrate what I'm saying in my video?
This is for a french presentation video. Thank you for your reply. Yours sincerely 😉
What's your height? I'm just a short 5'3 guy and wondering if i might be having a reach problem / not relaxed state of raised arms since the stem is not adjustable. What do u think?
Paul is 5-11
Looks like the Nami Burn-e is no longer sold with the 35Ah battery and now sold with 32Ah at same price. The range has been nurfed by a whole 10 miles. Are there any 35Ah versions still available to buy from somewhere?
Right. Makes no sense what a let down. I'm about to pull the trigger on the bronco with updated controllers , lcd screen and thumb throttle
Safer cells, most likely.
Is there a way to disable the throttle delay? I'd rather ride with instant throttle response.
Yeah, it doesn't have that level of adjustment. I'm more bothered by the dead zone than the delay/ramp-up speed of the throttle. Both Chuck and I find riding the Wolf King to be a little like a big block American car, and the NAMI is a little more like a V12 Ferrari. I don't miss the abruptness when I'm on the NAMI, but it would be nice if everyone could dial the throttle response to their own taste!
You'd love the Dualtron Storm. We're getting ready to review that next and have already started riding it. Throttle response is Bonkers! -Paul
I would totally buy it if there was a service center in Seattle. Otherwise, party over after the first blown tire.
One of the things I like about tubless tires is that tire sealant like Armor Dilloz works really well, as do tire plugs. Tubless tires are also not prone to pinch flats. But you're right, these tires are a pain to change. I've done a Wolf Warrior tire change and it was no fun at all (and I used to wrench for a living). If I had to pick, I'd go tubeless (which of course means non-split rims). -Paul
Im 167cm tall, would the handlebar height be too high for me? (Would I need to cut the stem?)
Handlebars might be slightly tall for you! -Vosk
Pls do one with the DULATRON STORM 😅😅
Sure thing Jed! We are working on a Storm review right now! It's kind of bonkers to ride! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide yayyyy great I can’t wait Paul!! Btw pls include info on purchasing the extra battery (when available and where) 👍
The tires are tubeless correct?
Yes! -Paul
So the range you show is 53.3 miles. I'd like to know the average riding speed, air temperature and rider weight. These things may have been mentioned at some time, but I am not aware of this. Also, for maximum battery life, what is the lowest percentage level of voltage charge that you recommend? Overall, great review!
Much as I love the latest greatest innovations, I can't help but wonder how the cf stem will perform in a headon crash. Being way >100lbs, its obvious the Nami Viper's raison d'etre isn't its light weight so I can't help but wonder if power coated steel isn't a better material. It'll obviously be cheaper with just as much strength & somewhat malleable if we so choose. No real reason for cf except for the 'wow' factor.
The carbon stem actually has a great feel to it. It has a very tight flex. Some stems can actually feel too stiff (ninebot Max comes to mind). Michael Sha has an amazing testing rig he built to cycle the stem through thousands of cycles of strain. Rions have been using carbon stems for a while, but you're right, in that case it's almost for sure because of weight.
Michael told me that he actually worked in the carbon fiber industry for a while, and at one point considered making the entire chassis out of carbon fiber. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide IMO I think the 'too stiff' argument is valid but only for non suspended scoots. I started with a M365pro & dang if it didn't ring my bell over harsh terrain. That said, with a good (&correctly tuned) suspension, I would want a stiff stem to brace on hard braking. Its possible it could be just me but it's also logical
I got a nami. Having issues getting full speed. I have turbo on in x mode. Top speed 27mph. Help
Please check the P settings , it might be only turned on to half power
-Vosk
I guessed ramir already gave it the big dog stamp of apporval before the review since we didnt get his take on it lol
I just hit 70 on the 11x2021
Cooling fans on the breaks !!!?? Wow that’s cool
First one we've ever seen with cooling fins on the brake pads, but then right after that two Dualtrons showed up that also had them :-)
PAUL: have you heard about the "New" GRAPHENE-LITHIUM battery technology? Lighter weight. Flexible material. 2.5x Battery capacity. Super-Fast charging. Purportedly will be introduced by Samsung for cellphones. Then E-bikes may be next. How long before GRAPHENE-LITHIUM batteries change everything in the E-Scooter universe?
From what I undestand, privately owned ones are currently banned in the UK. It's mind blowing that they would be banned and that rentals are legal. -Paul
Whoa… cool!
Thanks! -Paul
I like the numbers but I feel like there's too many negatives. If I'm going to pay the asking price, it had better be perfect.
I get where you're coming from. That said, I bought a Ferrari F355 Spider with 124 miles on it back in 2010. I was amazed to find out how far from perfect, hand-built cars are. Ugly welds everywhere!
Michael Sha watches all of these videos and cares a lot about what he's building, so I expect we'll see continuous improvement. I'll be curious to hear reports from folks who buy these a few months from now, to see what improves and what doesn't. -Paul
How thick is the wall of that carbon stering column ?
This is a great question. I'm not sure if I can get a set of calipers in there to measure. If I remember correctly, it's about 1 - 2 mm. (Chuck is riding it today, so I don't have it in the office to check) -Paul
How does it compare to Dualtron Storm or Thunder 2?
The Storm's throttle is super abrupt, and the Storm's suspension is very stiff, but you can soften it with other cartridges. Our NAMI gets ridden a lot. Our Storms (we have two) don't get ridden much. -Paul
Went to the purchase link. Those reviews are something to look at 😆😆 i keep hearing things about fluid free ride. And its always the same thing
that was the fastest hill climb i have ever seen!
Thanks! It was really fun! -Paul
After reading Ginger on Wheels review of the Burn-E Viper, I seriously ask why should I trust you guys? I would like an answer.
Hi Joshua,
That's a good question. I'm really glad you asked it. I suppose the question could also be posed the other way around.
We spent weeks actually riding, testing, and evaluating the BURN-E scooter scientifically. We then compared that data to the data we collected from over 75 other scooters. Then we also gave our take on the less quantifiable stuff like ride quality, and disclosed the suspension adjustments needed to make the scooter as good as it can be.
We had some issues with our scooter right out of the box and we disclosed all of them. In fact, one commenter suggested that we were in danger of killing a new brand because we were being too critical of it. Here's a link to the first look video:. You should be able to find the comment I'm referring to there. czcams.com/video/TPu7CKoPt6g/video.html
It sucks that the other reviewer got a replacement scooter with steering bearings that were too tight, and then reviewed it without riding the scooter.
I definitely feel for folks who waited patiently for their BURN-E scooters to arrive only to be disappointed, in some cases twice by damage or tuning issues. I felt that feeling myself, when our stem-hinge arrived bent and I straightened it so I could test the scooter.
Having ridden the scooter quite a bit, my feeling is that the design fundamentally very good, but they have gotten the easy stuff wrong on some of the scooters: tuning and shipping. Fortunately, the shipping issue seems to be solved. At this point, they really do need to be on top of their game for having scooters arriving undamaged and in good tune, because as a new brand you only get so many chances. I really hope they get quality to 100% soon, because it's fundamentally a very very good scooter to ride, and I'd like to see them continue to make more of them.
Happy to discuss here, or you can email me at my first name followed by @ followed by electric-scooter.guide if you'd like. If need be, we could also do a phone call. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul, thanks for the quick response. No need to call you. Frankly, I'm in shock you gave such a detailed answer. I wasn't expecting any response. I asked why I should continue to trust you and you gave me a satisfactory answer to that question. Thank you. I would love to see you compare the Mercane Wide Wheel vs Varla Pegasus vs Nanrobot Lightning and any other wide wheel solid tire scooter to see which one is the best. They all fall in the same price range.
Hi Joshua,
We probably won't do a comparo of those directly. But I did spend a lot of time with the Pegasus recently. The Pegasus is a good value but needed some tuning out of the box. The rear brakes on ours didn't work at all as delivered. The suspension is very stiff, particularly in the front which I didn't like at first, but it actually works well that way, and I grew to like it. It had decent braking once the brakes were tuned. The front brakes ended up having a concerning issue later.
For me, wide, flat-profile tires feel really odd when you start cornering. As you get toward the edge of the wheel they start feeling really odd. I feel the same way about the Wide Wheel though, and a lot of people love those. I think the Pegasus could be good with different wheels and tires. I do like the Pegasus tires more than the widewheel tires. The throttle is a bit abrupt if you turn up all the P-settings, like we always do. The deck feels good,
The Pegasus does have one of the best displays ever. Super super easy to read. I think the fonts and layout could be improved just a little, but in terms of over all form and function I hope to see it on many many more scooters in the future. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul, thanks for the detailed answers. It is greatly appreciated. I suppose I can ask you directly since you have compared so many scooters: What's the best all solid tire scooters you have ridden for under $1.500.00? You don't need to go into detail if you don't have the time or inclination. Thanks.
I see the price has been jacked up by several hundred dollars since this video got posted.
that meme at the end 😭😂😂😂 ESG for the win
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Does the Burn-e 2 have a better screen?
The screen is slightly brighter then the original! Thanks for watching. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide How do volts affect a scooter's performance? For example, the Nami Burn-e 2 is 72V 28Ah and it has 2x1000W motors. The Wolf GT Pro is 60V 35Ah with 2x1200W motors. But they get about the same speed. Also, the Apollo Phantom is 52V with 1200W motors...but I read the Nami goes up hills better. I don't know how this works!
And I bet if I was like 150 I could get my vsett 10 plus to 63 mph I am 190 and I got it to 57 mph
We hope to find out in a month or so. We'll run the VSETT through identical tests (except the hill in SF).
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide we're is the review at then
Wolfking GT pro vs Nami i wanna see if GT can able to beat Nami
🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Shimano has brake discs with radiator, it's called "ice tech"
Nice! I'm very curious about what Shimano brakes are like. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide according to most reviews, XTR are quite binary- they bite hard and then there is little modulation. In this terms Magura MT5e or Hope E4 T3 are better.
But nothing prohibits you to mix brake systems. I'm thinking about those brake discs and then Magura.
Wowowee... Great...
Hm....po..
can i have that scotter man plaease i bought 3 ninbots broke em all i need a sturdy scooter for me i weight 370
My mx60 would give it s run for its Money
Is that a scooter or a dirtbike? What are the specs? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide scooter 2 x2400watt 60v .does around 50mph
Test the Nami against the 11x (faster than king)
I would love to get some data on an 11X if anyone in the Bay Area has one to loan me fo an afternoon! -Paul
11x gets smoked by burn-e.
Those are nutt hydraulic brakes
I had to go watch the video again just now! I was sure I said Nutt! But you're absolutely right. I have no idea why I said Zoom in that take when it's right there on the caliper, especially since earlier in the video I called them Nutt :-)
-Paul
I was expecting a much better welding on a scooter thats in this price range.
Look at @8:44. It looks like it was a trainee and his/her first time using a welder.
They keep saying this a top shelf product, yes I distinctly remember all the mods issues they had to fix when they got it lol
Yeah it got pretty banged up in shipping. But they're shipping them on pallets now, which seems to have solved the problem. -Paul
I’m glad to hear that. @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
The best scooter, in my opinion is either the" Rescue mark12" for the long-Haul or the" Lithium patriot" for stealth portability and both of those units dropped from a hot-Air balloon could theoretically break the 300 miles per hour mark!
I'm a big fan of the Flinko 5000 myself ;-)
@@SolarEClipster Yes but, if you do a youtube search on mines you do find videos of those" Units" in" Action"
Lol
This seriously needs a dampner for speed wobbles,a proper steering stop so the wires don't get ripped out when over turning,which I have personally witnessed,and wtf is goin on when the stem is folded? Screen gets smashed on the handle bars no latch or braket.pls have a more accurate discussion on the negatives too.
I've gone 58.8 mph on it without wobble, once the suspension set up was done. When I raced motorcycles for 5.5 years, I never found that I needed a damper either. That said, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have one when they release it as a product. In the review we did call out the steering stop as a weak point. On our BURN-E the cables don't pull when steering left and right. On our BURN-E the screen does not contact anything, though it does come close to the footrest when folded. When I interviewed Michael Sha. I asked him about the lack of bracket to latch the stem to deck when folded (here's the moment in the interview where I ask about it czcams.com/video/Nn3WezRvWJA/video.html) and also call out the lack of a bracket in the review. Michael says the reason there is no bracket is that it's not made to pick up by the stem.
Eagerly looking forward to your review should you choose to make one. :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide here in aus we had major issues with the stem wiring being pulled out due to the m6 stop screw coming out,the scoot which was a friend of mine was in the shop for two weeks from brand new,also I have been riding mx for 25+years and the steering geometry on a ktm450 is spot on and dosnt need a dampner ,pls check the geometry on the nami,axle is well behind the headset causing a trolley wheel effect, l I can tell you at 70+kmph this thing is dangerous,as alot of people say as well,very unstable especially when throttle off and the front gets loaded with brakes,it def needs a latch as the screen does hit when tillted back,not cool.for a 6k scooter made in China,also having no latch allows bars to move left to right cause stress on the thin coupling in the tube that you are very familiar with..,other than that I love it,just disappointed in a few things,I will say fitting pmts made a huge differance,in the end I think for the 6k you pay it should go the speed as stated in a safe manner.looking at the build quality,I think is very good,hand welded frame,quality fastners,minimum screws/bolts,things I would change is shorter stem height which I have already,take a leaf out of rions book..,a c spanner to adjust suspension preload would be nice,a steering dampner,pmts which iv done,drill and fit a m10 bolt for the steering stop,a latch for the stem in down positon.
Rion would kill this scooter lol. But I get he's comparing price range as well. I'm still iffy about this scooter. I'll wait till all the bugs r fixed!
Doh! Who just made off with my Burn- E?
lol you got Air going Up that hill 😀
So fun! Would have been more air if I could have gotten it to go faster. It was losing altitude on each subsequent try. I ran the hill about 4 or 5 times. :-)
The original plan was to jump off of the hill, and try to reproduce the Ferrari jump scene from Ferris Bueller's day off, but I chickened out on the down hill jump. -Paul
I think VESETT 10+ is one best scooter out there😎👍😎👍
We hope to find out soon! -Paul
Best bang for your buck, yes! Best scooter out there....not really.
@@jessa.3857 Yes I'm well aware it's not fastest out there it's still super fast but you can do couple upgrades like air filled suspension and extended handle bar it's definitely quality scooter.
@@coolshariq I didn't say anything about it not being the fastest. You said it's the best scooter out there but it clearly is not. There are much better quality scooters out there but cost a lot more! For the price of the vsett, you are getting the performance of much more expensive and better quality scooters. I'm saying this as someone who actually wants to get one (vsett 10+ R) soon!
Wolf electric scooter👍👍👍
The King maintains its reign as fastest, but the BURN-E rides sooooo smooth. - Trina
It's not like there's a ton of cf on this scooter. Great scooter but the price should at least be $600-$800 less... no kidding! Please don't get it twisted mate... this scooter is way way overpriced, please don't act like it's worth every penny!🤦♂️
I'd probably feel the same way if I hadn't ridden one yet. It's impossible to describe how much better the ride quality of this scooter is compared to most others. To me, the price and build hits a nice spot between the Wolf King and the Rion, and competes very well with the Dualtron Storm, which we will be reviewing next.
Michael Sha is pretty open about the fact that he is working on a lower power, lower cost scooter that will compete with the Wolf Warrior, so who knows, maybe that will become the dominant model from NAMI like the Model 3 is for Tesla.
-Paul
id really love a scooter that can go 50mph or better, and go 50 miles or further. it really seems like you have to spend over $4000 to get that though.
ive seen one scooter that was $1700 with those specs but there are almost no reviews, and the ones there are say its a sketchy low quality scooter.
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isnt rion and/or weped faster than this?
The Rion is faster for sure, and probably quicker off the line too. The best documented speeds we have for the Weped and the BURN-E have the BURN-E being faster.
Our speed runs are pretty stringent though. I ride them two directions, back to back, at sea-level on flat ground, and average the two speed runs together to cancel out the effect of headwinds or tail winds. I also sustain the top speed for a long time when I do it, typically 1/4 mile at top speed, to be sure that the curve has flattened out. The whole run that I do is 1/2 mile long in each direction.
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If they were motorbikes, Rion would be a moto GP Ducati, while the Burn e would be a Ducati Multistrada.
Sounds about right! -Paul
Should have compared Nami to Bronco extreme instead.
We would looooooove to. As soon as we get our hands on a Bronco I'll test it. -Paul
The Burn E is fantastic!
However, the price difference between the King and the performance gain... it's not an incredible difference of $1,000.
I would still have to give it to the King for the performance/dollar ratio. I would love to add the Burn-E, but at that price - I would rather have a Dualtron for a little more or a King for a lot less. I would be way more open if the price was on par for about $500 less. $4100+tax/shipping vs $2799+tax/shipping... Gonna have to tilt to the King on that one. However, in the next year, I'll be looking at adding whatever iteration of the Burn-E is out or maybe a Storm! Thanks ESG for this awesome review! :)
Thanks Rob! -Paul
Everything is fun and games until you ride one of those Rion hyper scooters
Working on that! Maybe in the next month that dream will finally come true! -Paul
Yeah and everything is fun with Rion until it starts to rain since its not even water proof. And off road is out of option as well.
@@FysioTutor it sounds like an electrifying ride
People are comparing these two which is so stupid. Like you would compare ferrari against Mercedes G class lol
Review DUALTRON STORM LMTD. I DOUBLE DARE YOU. It wouldn't even be close; it would smoke every scooter, every category.
We should review it soon
What a beast. Too expensive though.
They're apparently working on one which would be more cost competitive with existing beast like the Wolf and Wolf King. -Paul
If cars ain’t allowed up that hill then why are there so many cars on that hill???
They are, however, allowed to go down the hill. :-) -Paul
You are agree with me that the vsett 10 plus might as well say bumblebee is the best looking scooter if you agree give me a thumbs up
5000 dollars it’s too much money for this
I agree! Fortunately it doen't cost 5000 dollars. -Paul
cool stuff, but I think of a motorcycle for that price point
Lol,umm you are missing all of the hyperscooters like the RION for example,a rion scooter would eat this thing for breakfast and then some.
Looking forward to testing one soon. I have no doubt you are correct about the Rion. -Paul
I got a 11xzero and I can 65mph
Are you in the Bay Area? I would love to get some data on the 11X. (two directions, flat ground, half mile, back to back averaged together) -Paul
Sooo… yea, for a scooter to be $4500 in a world of ever cheaper electronics i just dont see the value in this scooter, i guess unless u need 50 miles of range and somehow are able to do 60mph on the streets with a scooter lol thats stupid just buy a car or
Motorcycle. For the price this is stupid, now if it wer say $3k a lil more
Than the wolf
King then sign me up.
Am I alone in thinking that anything above 30 mph is too fast for a scooter? I don't want to sound like a chicken, because I'm not, but 60 mph is just too much.
For me, it's not so much how fast it goes, but how quickly it gets up to 25 mph. Our family car has a top speed of 155 mph, which of course, I will never ever do on the road, but it gets me up to the speed limit nicely when I'm merging into traffic. -Paul
What no drop test? 😆
Rion
We hope to have data soon! -Paul
It will break another record...killing the most of his owners
*Lethal !*