Fixing Porsche's Star Wars Ship
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2019
- Porsche and Lucasfilm collaborated on a six-week project called "The Designer Alliance" to make an original starfighter design for the Star Wars universe. The final design really doesn't fit in the Star Wars universe, so I thought I'd try fixing it.
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This came out just in time to be copied by a marvel comics artist
sad but true!
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Not again...
lmao
Link?? Has this happened before? If yes links to that??
"What makes a space ship inhabit the world of Star Wars?"
1, retrofuturism
2, greebles
On point
and simple general shapes
i wnated to build my own ship design in some computer game and remebered this video ... your and the other catchwords/ catchphrases helped me a lot ... thx!
But don't take the retrofuturism too far into sleek sounding rockets and shiny 50s serials.
@@leonardchurch5199 This is the one place where EC's design fails too. It's VERY Star Wars, but it's also really obviously a one-man snubfigter.
...because otherwise the canopy is too big.
EC Henry: "So is my design a better ship?"
Everyone: "Yes".
No.
@@MrBogatoff NO.
Yes
@@MrBogatoff gigacope
Yes
Their ship: star citizen, a ship for millionaires
Your ship: actually starwars-y, a ship a more humble someone could fly.
Their version might be closer to something Naboo would use though. Just needs aerospike engines, a frontal chrome cover, and yellow paint elsewhere. Oh, and actually, it might need to be made a bit SLEEKER. Naboo likes their flowing curved designs.
@@SephirothRyu Now I can agree on that
The original does give off the feeling of an early prequels ship tbh
Noone at Starcitizen would fly that ship, cuz its UGLY! My god... they needed 6 Months for
THAT? what a joke!!!
@@ArchLich457 weeks
*Points at Porsche design*
"- This is brilliant !"
*Points at EC Henry's redesign*
"But I like this !"
That's basically what he said
@@GraysonGranda It was a joke about my own reaction watching this video.
Thibault Doucet and your reaction happens to coincide with what he seems to think about the subject. My comment was similarly about my reaction to your comment
I really like that he made the wings folding, it would make sense on a "space aircraft carrier" sort of concept. And honestly, before I got to that part of the video, I was thinking those wingtips could be removed, Star Wars has never really shown aerodynamic designs to be very prevalent.
EDIT: corrected a syntax error.
@@johns9652 Repulsolift technology makes aerodynamic lift irrelevant. Wings on Star Wars spacecraft are either there as structural elements (to support engines away from the main body, as on the B Wing) or for additional manouvrability in atmosphere.
We're literally at the point where people are fixing a branded commercial for Star Wars and a car company.
@@thegoodguy6081 exactly LOL so silly
We are literally at a point where people are working on the Star Wars franchise that simply shouldn't....
We live in a time where almost everyone has access to advanced CGI technology
So it’s more important than ever for a science fiction developer to deliver good content
It’s not enough to only do what you think is good anymore
You have to please a big fanbase who will recreate a much better alternative in a splitsecond
@@lepuluke TL;DR
@@baumstamm1000 We were at that point years ago with Force Awakens. People were too blinded by optimism to see it. And now it's too late, it's done, a new bad trilogy has been made.
"Is my redesign a better ship?"
Yes, yes it is.
I disagree
@@SnoW-pk9zo Yeah well his design actually looks like something from star wars, the original looks like a mockup design.
I could have seen a ship like this during the reign of Darth Krayt and later the Triumvirate around 138 ABY. This asthetic favors well with the Pelleon Class Star Destroyer and E-Wing and T-85 X-Wing.
Or even an advanced ship designed to fight the Yuuzan Vong. This might hold up well against a Coral Skipper or a Vong Worldship. But then again, after the "Vongforming" of Coruscant and obliteration of a fifth of the galaxy, it's doubtful anyone would have the money or expertise to create such a craft.
Not necessarily, but it's definitely a better Star Wars ship.
I actually disagree, I want some newer ship design, not some X-wing wannabe.
We're not saying your ship looks better and more Star Wars like than the Porsche ship, but your ship looks better and more Star Wars like than Porsche's ship.
*Tri-wing* = *Porsche Tiger*
*Henry's Tri-wing* = *Henchel's Tiger*
The virgin porche Vs the Chad Henchel
Its not wrong
@@syaondri DON'T DRIVE OVER HILLZ HANS!
🤣🤣🤣
The Tri-wing is more like a 4502PA.
"this doesn't look like a starwars ship actually..."
"yeah.... i know, let's put a droid on it. it will fix everything"
Exactly!
The droid can’t even see because it’s sunk so far down into the fuselage...
@@CaptainCrutch the droid doesn't have to see. Its supposed to help make calculations and talk to the ship sort of like an ai.
There's a droid there already but it would look better more prominently displayed
@@Ben-li9zb The comment must have went over your head. It doesn't seem like you get what he was going for. No technically droids don't need to see. Hell they don't even have eyes so how could they? 😂🤣😂🤣😅😂
Imagine the Porsche Design Flying Backwards. That Would actually be a nice Spacecraft
That's a good point
Like an F-302 from Stargate but with the nose of a Federal Corvette from Elite: Dangerous. Weird, but I like it.
That's how I saw it at first!! Kept trying to figure why it was "flipped over"-???
It thumbnail
Berkut the SOB, aircraft (almost) always looks cooler like that!
I really would love to have seen Porsche connect their roots with Naboo-type stylings. I can see a lot of overlapping possibilities there; the swoopy curves of many Naboo ships fit very well with vintage Porsche, and even more modern Porsche design, tho to a lesser extent.
I definitely do like your redesign tho, it does fit much better than the original Porsche design.
Either Naboo spaceships, of Coruscant flying cars. Porsche's classic designs would fit both of these contexts very well
I'll be honest, I saw the Porche design out of context and thought it was a new Star Citizen ship. I then, upon reading the description, realized it wasn't. But the description didn't mention star wars and I never thought "Star Wars" while looking at it. It a nice ship, but not star wars. On the other hand, I saw the thumbnail before I read the title and immediately thought of star wars. So...yeah....you did good
Same I saw it and thought the same thing
it would actually make a pretty sick star citizen ship
It’s funny you say that because that was the first thing that went through my head when I saw it
If they wanted a Porshe design, they should have not been a X-Wing/Y-Wing/U-Wing hybrid... but an A-Wing.
Yes, good point. And that would have resulted in something much better.
Or a republic era starfighter. They all look like luxury space vehicles already.
@@JonatasMonte The Royal Nubian Porshe?
@@thomasjenkins5727 you know, with some Nubian modifications....I can see that
I know the idea was to market Porsche's new model but a Porsche 911 and A-Wing would go together really well. They're both compact, A-Wings and 911s have always been renowned for agility/handling, and the A-Wing's engines are behind the cockpit instead of beside (rear engine instead of mid or front engine).
The thing about Star Wars design is that every ship is _theoretically_ aerodynamic in its basic design, but clearly optimized for space travel and bulk.
The Naboo ships are about the only exceptions, as they're meant mostly for diplomatic and ceremonial reasons and not actual combat, meaning they're either going to be parked in a hangar looking pretty or doing stunts for the public in the atmosphere.
The TIE fighter has indeed a very areodynamic shape
@@astraesl9547 lol
@@astraesl9547 well its not really that bad, the main body is round which isnt bad for aerodynamics, and the solar panels arent going to add much as theyre flat hexagons
@@astraesl9547 yeah, almost as aerodynamic as the Vogon Constructor Fleet’s ships
this is what i was thinking, star wars ships are basically 70s fighter jets that dont have to worry about aerodynamics
This video should be shown in design schools. Such a beautiful example of how even the best desighners cant "catch" the language of sertain styles, despite of their high professionalism in sertain areas. Art is hard even for expirienced artists.
I will respectfully disagree. He isn't arguing for a "Star Wars design language"... he just wanted to make the thing look like it came from the same company that designed the X-Wing. He starts out in the first two minutes stating that Star Wars doesn't have a set "design language" and shows a good half dozen examples.... then spends the rest of the video directly contradicting his opening. When you are talking about a vast fantasy galaxy with thousands of civilizations set light years apart from each other, an overarching design consistency / language is absurd on it's face. There is nothing consistent between a Nebula B Frigate vs a Naboo Royal Starship vs a Trade Federation Droid Ship vs a Lamba Class Shuttle that screams "these came from a similar schools of design / engineering" apart from maybe thruster thingies and windows.
I'd have no issues with his approach if he actually did just state that "I wanted to make this look like it came from the same company that designed the X-Wing"... but to claim some deeper understanding of "Star Wars starship design language" where it's clear no common language exists is just... ridiculous. Sure, the rebels and Empire have their unique schools of design, which makes perfect sense... as they would have their own suppliers / designers / engineers / etc. But to claim some random design isn't "Star Wars enough" when it could have came from some barely encountered civilization in some far flung corner of the Outer Rim is just completely antithetical to what Star Wars is. Sure, the major players have their "design languages" but to speak for the entire galaxy? It's silly.
@@control_the_pet_population If you actually paid attention to what he said after the 1 minute mark, you'd understand why he contradicted himself; there is no standard design language, but there exists a sort of 'style' that most people will claim 'Oh, that's a Star Wars ship!' which is what Porshe and Lucasfilm *attempted* to do, but failed.
Star Wars ships, to me at least, have an aura of rustic antiquity to them. Yes, there are outliers like the Naboo Royal Starship, but most ships in the series look old, with hard edges and 80s-esqe technofluff slapped onto them. Incom, Gozanti, CEC, the Mon Calla ships, and of course the Imperial ships by Kuat, they all share some similarities while not sticking to a strict 'code' of sorts. That's the whole point of the video, which you missed.
If you put the original design next to a bunch of Star Wars designs, it looks out of place. You are right that it mostly looks like an Incom ship, but he could have chosen any other manufacturer to fit the aesthetic while keeping in mind the Star Wars style. "It looks like it belongs in Star Citizen" is bang on.
@@ilove401 We will agree to disagree. What you described is a "style" that is so vague as to be meaningless. Yes, there are areas where similarities exist. The rebels starfighters for instance are busier with the greebles, while the imperial designs are cleaner, more angular and geometric... and they each clearly convey the idea of common lineage.. But Kuat and Incom does not equal the Star Wars galaxy as a whole. So outside of those two warring factions / design schools, there just isn't anything holding vague notions of a "style" together. I stand by my original point, he wasn't trying to make it look like it belonged in Star Wars, he made it look like it belonged in the Incom showroom. Nothing wrong with that, besides one being an actual fresh take and the other being much more bland and derivative, but to each their own.
Naboo ships look like Art Deco hood ornaments from the 1920s, Trade Federation with the spindly insect looking droid fighters have zero in common with anything else, that goofy prequel landing ship that Yoda flew around in... the one with the big glass gun turrets sticking out of the side... didn't share a lick of similarities with anything else... The Genosian solar sail ship that Dooku flew looked like something lifted directly from the pages of Dune and nothing else is Star Wars looked anything like it... the stolen "space yacht" from Last Jedi looked like it was kitbashed from the 1970s Buck Rogers starfighter... and this is just three minutes of rambling off the top of my head. None of those previous examples, with maybe the exception of the goofy prequel landing ship, had anything remotely designed to look "antiquated" or "rustic"... Again... he wanted to make it look like it was from the same design team that made the X-Wing... cool... but there is no overarching "Star Wars" style... designs shoot off into weird tangents every time we are introduced to a new civilization... and I hope it stays that way.
@@control_the_pet_population Again, as with what EC said in the video, the original Porsche design looks to 'futuristic'. Another way of thinking about it would probably be trying to come up with a ship design if you were sent back to the 1970s. Times have changed, but the aesthetic of Star Wars remains largely the same.
Agree to disagree, sure. It's a big galaxy, but ironically, the ship Porsche designed looks like it belongs in a completely different galaxy. I think EC's design wasn't just 'copying Incom', it (for me) incorporated the Star Wars aesthetic a lot better just in general.
@ilove I just find that line of thinking so limiting for a vast fantasy universe. Here on boring old Earth, our automobile and aircraft designs have advanced quite a bit since the 1970s ... There has clearly been an evolution, correct? Why wouldn't or couldn't the same hold true in the SW galaxy? Just from a simple lore perspective, having the original Porsche design being an Incom product is something I would find much more interesting... the team that designed the original X-Wing in 15 BBY is long since retired... and a new team with new advancements and a new approach has been brought on board. "It needs X-wing engine pods to look more Star Warsy" is boring in my opinion.
*LUCASFILM and MARVEL COMICS*
*steals your ship design in ...*
*3 ... 2 ... 1 ...*
@Rising Horizon Gaming
*THE JOKE*
==========>>
*Your Head.*
>Marvel: I *HUNGER*
@@Alex-ji6ob Read that in the WC3 Dreadlord's voice
@@Mono_Person lmao
He probably wants them to use it
I love your redesign. The Porsche one is, as you say, a really cool futuristic aircraft, and it'd be really cool in another franchise, but yours is much more Star Wars.
Their design looks like a Star Citizen craft, which made me eye twitch.
Pretty much agree. Current design were more like startrek's. the new redesign were closer to starwar's design. though i prefer if the nose were a bit longer, and the cockpit a bit slimmer. love the engine and overall design.
@@ThatConfused1 Yeah it fits right in with SC, and EC Henry's design also works better from a piloting perspective.
The Canopy drove me nuts on the original and mentioned that on a rather lengthy critique there.
His one is much better for visibility, both since there are no obstructive elements on the frame, as well as the Cockpit being place higher in the Aircraft.
The seating position of the original is very low, which is seen as a good position in a sports car, but is horrible in a fighter, because it limits vision into all directions.
And the windscreen is not as steeply inclined, reducing glare, especially from the instrument panel, and visual distortion.
Still don't like the front end, there is a reason why pretty much all fighters, including those in star wars have a tapered front end.....and that is drag.
This design still has a bit too much frontal area, but overall it works much better and looks star wars.
It also makes more sense, that light grey is visible but not as much as the bare metal look of the original.
When the B-17s and P-51Ds flew bare metal at the end of WW2, the glare off them could be seen, on a good day, for about 150 km (roughly 80-ish nautical miles or 93-ish statute miles.)
That is generally a huge tactical disadvantage and the USAAF only did it n the late war, because they wanted draw the Luftwaffe out, to fight them. The Luftwaffe then was mainly ill trained young pilots of under 100 hours before combat, even less than 50 sometimes down to 20 hours of flight time before their first combat mission, going up against well trained US pilots with often 200-400 hours before their first combat.
So to the USAAF it made sense, to a small rebel force, it does not.
I like both designs, but don't agree that one is 'more' Star Wars than the other.
@woollimy yeah I'm thinking the same. Not a single point of what he is talking made sense to me besides the point that the ship doesn't look like Porsche. But that's all.
gotta love how a single youtuber can make a better ship than a pair of multi-billion dollar companies.
You nailed it, I came in watching the first ship no audio and I was like “that’s a cool space ship” second one flashed and I went oh, this is a star wars video.
Nailed it. Send it to them.
“It’s not a problem, it’s just a missed opportunity” you just summed up the entire Disney sequel trilogy
Gw G
Ha ha ha couldn‘t agree more!
I actually think the sequel trilogy is a problem as well
haha I dont agree tho. There are many problems
I read this post exactly when he got to that part.
Honestly I can’t argue with that
When I first looked at that design, I knew something wasn't right about it. It didn't feel like it belonged in star wars. You made something that did. Well done, EC Henry. Well done.
@nefarious gremlin You should have seen his Resistance B-Wing and New Republic Y-Wing designs along with his First Order TIE bomber, They're all badass
I think if they called it a personal starship or something of the like then it would make sense? Cause it genuinely looks like a luxury cruiser or a touring vessel, more than a "starfighter"
As another comment pointed out, this ship looks like a mandalorian-esque starfighter or a luxury cruiser you'd find on a casino planet.
Most if not all of the ship videos I've seen from you so far really just need to become cannon right now.
When one guy can design a more thematically accurate spaceship than 2 entire teams of designers
lol
Like your profile pic
to be fair, that one guy has been working on star wars themed designs for years. :P
To be fair, he was working off the model they spent 6 weeks working on.
"Too many cooks..."
Henry: "Is my redesign a better ship? N-"
Me: "YES."
Marc B. The original design didn’t look like a Porsche design either.
@@thegoodguy6081 So when are we gonna get a video of someone fixing this guys ship from a video of him fixing porches ship to look like a porsche because the remake didn't look like a porsche because the original didn't look like a porsche???
who cares?
I think they're both great designs.
Obviously EC's has a much more Star War(sy?) feel to it. But that doesn't make it an inherently superior ship.
The original design is a work of art in it's own perspective. They're both made by talented people, and are great ships in their own right. The original keeps an extremely overtly sci-fi feel, and it maintains the base design that EC uses. If it was bad, so is EC's. EC took said design and made it appropriate for Star Wars, on the other hand the original design would be better suited for other Sci-fi series. I can't really argue with you on opinion, but know this;
They're both great designs, and I feel like you, and people like you have this really childish; "we hate big company" mindset.
Apologies if that assumption is wrong.
Absolutely yes. He's exactly right that if I saw the Porche ship whitout somebody telling me what it was, the only way I would realize it was supposed to be from StarWars would be the astromech, but his design is *instantly* recognizable as being from StarWars, even without the astromech no one needs to tell me, I just know by looking at it.
Your ship is absolutely gorgeous, not saying theirs isn’t, but yours looks like it came right out of a rebel hangar
The original looks like a tiny personal transportation ship. Not made for combat.
The redesign looks like a fighter ship, made to fight other ships like it.
OG Porsche ship: owned and heavily modified or custom ordered by a bounty hunter. A hero ship.
EC ship: factory made and sold in bulk numbers.
yes
the Porsche ship looks like something a republic senator might have. Probably was what they were going for ngl
*NesiusLM So they _still_ failed to follow the design brief. What Republic Senator would fly an X-Wing, Y-Wing, or U-Wing, even? Or something with that mussed up, worn aesthetic that those ships tend to, yknow, have?
@@Ostermond I never said they didnt fuck up lol
porches design : custom order craft
TRI-WING S-91 PEGASUS
this design : base model craft
TRI-WING S-91 STANDARD
Make the Porsche a star citizen ship!
yep the og design fits star citizen to a tee almost, way better than star wars, make it a drake ship.
i though that as soon as i saw it. looks like it would fit being a ship made by aeigis or crusader
Same here...looks like it belongs in Star Citizen
Make Star Citizen...no, that's it, just make Star Citizen already.
@@Criomorph Its coming along nicely actually. I'm a backer and am pleased with how it is coming so far. They did a lot last year and things look good for this year
wow i thought this episode came out just this week, as they actually used this ship in ep.1 of Obi-Wan show.. they make a few references to it as well. i thought it looked odd (out of universe) and wondered why this ship was so important. i didnt realize it was an advertisement basically.
In what episode did you se it? i didnt?
im glad somebody else noticed it
It's the premier episode, when Leia is on the tree with Lola, identifying ships as they fly by.
In my opinion, you truly hit the mark when you finished what those creators started but failed to brought home. Well done.
This fighter evokes a very “Legacy Era” feeling for me. Almost like the New Republic or Galactic Alliance successor to the ARC 170, with the 3 person cockpit, but MUCH beefier. Not as sleek as NR E-wings, but more multi-purpose and durable.
not a fan of the look of the E-wings i would rather this be the E-wing.
@@MrChickennugget360 My only real problem with the E wing is that dumbass laser hanging over the cockpit. Get rid of that, and I'd have no issues with it. Still wouldn't like it as much as the X-wing, but I wouldn't be bitter about it replacing them.
For some reason it reminded me of the Old Republic era the setting of the MMO a Republic Fighter
@@DoctorOctopus63 I see what you’re getting at actually. As an avid SWTOR player, I can see it
Absolutely, The Porsche design feels more akin to StarCitizen rather than Star Wars.
Exactly! And honestly, I wouldn’t mind having that ship in Star Citizen 🙄
@@VelocityFilmsCO I would buy it. ANd I didn't even notice there WAS an astromech until EC Henry said there was one
as a star citizen i can say you're right, but even for star citizen design some proportions are off.
Yeah, it'd need a few solid passes of redesign to smoothly fit into SC.
This ship actually appears in Kenobi episode 1, when Leia is looking at the ships coming and going on Alderan. She says "Ooh a tri-wing, that's a new one."
No
thought i recognized that ship
"tri-wing"
> Has two wings
yeah that bothered the heck out of me. I think it's a 3 person fighter. But still "Tri-wing" I don't get.
EC Henry: (Makes a Star Wars CG ship design)
Marvel comics: It's free real estate.
Oh no... Becuase they steal fan made ships...
*Execute order 66.*
@@501ststormtrooper9 Override Order: Execute Order 65
@@firstoffproductions1462 Yes my lord.
@@hathynhighley8548 They don't pay the fans for work that they have spent hours or even days on and then actively hide their actions. It's a big problem of stolen art
Porsche: hits the nail at a weird angle.
Some bloke called Henry: hits the nail square on the head. 👌
Porsche kinda bent the nail when they hit it.
This guy hammered it in straight on one strike.
What I saw when I looked at Porche's design was something cool, and after a few seconds, I saw something that fit into something like Ender's game or any other generic, futurist sci-fi. What I saw when I looked at your design was 'skyhopper' followed immediately by 'x-wing' and 'incom' which fused together to make 'xcom' in my head but thats besides the point. Great job.
This attention to detail and perfect remix is in character for this channel, and as per usual this should be canon.
The first thing I thought of when seeing the redesign was "Incom", so I'd say you both did a better job on making it fit into the universe. Not just on the ship geometry, but just down to how the ship was detailed with the faded red accents just screams Incom to me
Well, he made it "fit" into the Incom universe not the Star Wars universe as a whole. Star Wars is a vast fictional galaxy with thousands of civilizations that none of us have ever seen because they haven't been written yet. He just took the thing and made it look like it came from the X-Wing design team. I find it dull to be honest. The original ship could potentially come from some rarely seen civilization with their own approach using design details that fans had never seen before... seems pretty obvious that different ways of doing things would be expected in such a vast galaxy... But nope, it's a "fix" that essentially boils down to "Star Wars design language = X-Wing". I generally like his work, but this one is just so much less interesting overall than the original design.
@@control_the_pet_population i partially agree
@@control_the_pet_population id have to disagree. he did say the original design brief given to porsche was to make a starship that looked like incom made it. porsche was explicitly told the in-universe manufacturer and still made something that doesnt fit, and thats why the redesign is so "incom-y". its nothing to do with "star wars design = x-wing"
I love how the Porsche designers were basically “kitbashing” with airplane designs! Gotta love the creative process! ;D
Meanwhile in Japan: so I got 15 fightercraft to make for Ace Combat and I have 2 base transforming mechs for a new Macross series. Ok the 15 Ace combat fighters I can do in 2 months the variable fighters will take 1.
@@barrybend7189 Don't forget a new Gundam for the inevitable Unicorn sequel
@@KillerOrca wait Shoji Kowamori is going to design another Gundam? I thought his design credit for Gundam was the Albion, GP01, Gp02 and GP03 from Gundam Stardust Memory?
@@barrybend7189 Nah, Im joking. Not sure I want another GP03 thanks...
@@KillerOrca usually people complain about GP02 not 03? At least 03 had an awesome sequences with its weapons in full display.
It's beautiful, I almost love it as much as an Arc-170. If it was a single person craft, I'd definitely be one of my favorite, because it has the Snow Speeder look, as well as a fast looking fighter look. 10/10 amazing job
Just watched Obi-Wan Kenobi and gotta say I wasn't expecting this ship to make an appearance
I just saw this video a week ago. Didn't suspect I'd see the ship again.
Wait i didnt watch the show yet.. But does they really adding this design of wing into the show??
Yeah it's in the first episode. It's a very, *very* brief appearance though.
I wish lucasfilm would hire you so that you can Design Star Wars stuff
Lucasfilm is unfortunately run by people who look at it for profit. They aren't truly excited or invested in the universe they are tasked with caretaking beyond that. That is the reason why someone like EC Henry likely won't ever be approached by today's Lucasfilm, and why we ended up with a very non-Star Wars design in the first place.
You and or Fractal Sponge.
I heartily agree. Too much vehicle design in Disney Star Wars has been purely derivative and disappointingly unimaginative, without any innovations like the original Lucasfilm used to crank out with every new episode. Prequels included!! Disney needs people who understand Star Wars.
@@Noone-of-your-Business This is precisely why Filoni and Favreau make the Mandalorian work.
People have been saying that Lucasfilm blatantly plagiarise Star Wars fan's art work.
So just because Lucasfilm don't hire or pay EC Henry for his designs doesn't mean Lucasfilm won't incorporate his designs into canon.
The glued-together spaceships of No Man's Sky evokes more of a Star Wars feel than the Porsche one
Sadly true.
I just got this game and some of my favorite ships are the vaguely Star Wars feeling ones. :D
The Watermelon rocket from SPORE evokes more Star Wars.
I mean, some NMS ships have astromechs...I doubt they did that on accident.
That's what i was thinking
"triwing"
>has two wings
As for the redesign, it looks infinitely better.
Yeah, what the heck with the name "tri-wing"?
The Porche design looks more like something out of Star Citizen, with an astromech slapped on top to "Star Wars-ify" it. Don't get me wrong, the ships in Star Citizen are absolutely gorgeous, and works of art in their own right. But they don't conform to the Star Wars aesthetic at all. If Star Citizen ships are Lamborghinis, then Star Wars ships are Volkswagens.
Star Citizen ships are concept cards: They never come out.
There's still something about your ship that bugs me, but I can't put my finger on it. What I WILL say is that you 100% succeeded in making it feel more Star Wars. Saying that the original looked right out of Star Citizen or something was dead on. Good work.
@@TheCoolCucumber I think you're on to something there.
Cockpit scale. That's a one-man snubfighter, not a three-crew strike craft.
@@TheCoolCucumber My humble thoughts: 1) Engines should be one big cylinder on each side, similar to the Resistance X-Wing engines, and positioned closer to the core as you say. 2) The wings should be clipped shorter, to the red stripe. 3) The slope behind the cockpit should be removed. It should be flat with a greebly surface. 4) Clip off the "tail" wedge end.
@@hw2577 The front of the engine should have an intake grill of some kind.
Actually with a slight elevation behind the pilot, we would be looking at a vague ARC 170 minus the 3rd crew member. It's got potential, perhaps a Fel Empire or even Darth Krayt (130 ABY or so) or even a good fit for a fast gunboat for fighting coral skippers of the Yuuzan Vong. I know legends territory but still.... It's an awesome design for perhaps a later age of Star Wars at least a century after Yavin.
Why haven't they hired him to make ship design's or at least adjust and finalise them? He so good at it.😊
So they can steal designs without payment
Why would they hire people when they could just steal stuff?
@woollimy Dude wtf are you talking about lmao.
@@zackbobby5550 Disney did steal Ansio Hansel's artwork for the Imperial Handbook, so it's not like that would be without precedent.
@@zackbobby5550 Disregard, I thought you were talking about something else.
The thing I appriciated was how he explained all of it, like you can tell the design isn't very starwars ( the branded one ) but just spotting AND putting them in words is serious good work.
Amazing! There's no denying that your ship fits in the SW universe MUCH better than the initial design. Well done!
Naboo Starfighter looks kinda Porsche-esque.
In fairness, Naboo likes to go for sleek looking things covered in chrome, so they may just go for looks over practicality in many cases.
Yes, this! Proof that the Porsche design isn't completely out of place. I think the Porsche design is, well, the "Porsche" of fighters, and the Naboo fighters are the Lamborghinis. Whereas the X, U, and Y are like an old Ford F-series, a Toyota 4 Runner, and maybe Chevrolet Suburban of fighters. Utilitarian, beat, and boxy. Why not throw some sleekness in there?
I can definitely see a revision of that design be reused as a new Nubian fighter
@@autofixation actually in fairness the X wing is Ford Falcon, U wing is Ford Econoline and the Y Wing is the F150. The A wing is the Shelby Cobra.
Is it just me, or does it feel like Ray used one of this design's engines as her speeder-bike? It could just be a coinsidence, however.
Yes she did, she salvaged those engines from an Xwing and built her own speeder
"A modern stealth bomber"
*sad HO229 noises*
:(
Not to go kickstarting an old argument, but it's more of a flying wing than a stealth bomber.
The thing I like the best about your design is how the engines subtly invoke the look of a lightsaber too. I could see this as a New Jedi Order fighter for sure.
I don’t know why but your redesign is just so much more “Star Wars-y”
porche's one looks too clean imo
He litteraly explains exactly that in this 7min40 video lmfao
Jagger well I did write this comment at the beginning of the video
@@leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347 ffs 😂🤦♂️
Because it was made with beloved intentions of a true fan rather than some commercial bullshit of already well earning designers who never gave a shit about Star Wars...
That's why
The real secret to making it look more like a star wars ship: greeblies.
And eroded paint accents. Wear and tear makes a Star Wars ship as much as anything, which is why Amidala's ship in Episode 1 was such a noted departure.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Well, that ship does have connections to the royal Family of Naboo so I’d doubt that the Royal Family would let the paint to wear and the outside of it to crumble. Not everything in the Star Wars universe has to look like it hasn’t been to the shop in 20 years.
That sort of design I feel is left to the Rebels, Pirates, and really any others who don’t want to take care of their ship because a clean ship doesn’t have any use to them.
@@JustANervousWreck For reference to the "used aesthetic", I would refer you to the external surfaces an any past and modern spacecraft after only one re-entry.
The majority of them have not gotten out beyond the Van Allen belt protections, though they have ballistic re-entries.
I think the two balance, in the realm of wear, with interstellar travel (even with shielding) and controlled repulsor-lift re-entry.
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The lack of atmospheric and spatial wear on the Naboo royal ship(s) is what made them stand out as "hoity-toity" fancy.
@@MonkeyJedi99 they managed to invent space travel through another dimension, I'm pretty sure they can keep their ships clean during reentry
You nailed it dude! The Porsche design looks like something out of the Terminator movies or maybe if Star Fleet fighter.
I always think of Star Wars as a very old, lived in universe, and existing ship design tends to reflect this.
I think you've done a fantastic job w/ your version. It immediately evokes an Incom Corp feel vs the Porsche design. I especially like the gun placement. Incom tends to avoid a long wing w/o using it FOR something. The Z-95 and T-65B fighters use that to spread the fire profile, as you've done here.
And even if you do have an astromech socket, it doesn't have to be populated on your promotional brocheure.
I actually love yours more than the one porshe designed. Besides, I really agree with you. Star Wars isnt supposed to look futuristic.
Diego Grajeda more like retro futuristic, and I love that aesthetic
im definately nit picking but there is still a distinct lack of Y-wing
@@kobaltmyst8074 I disagree, the blocky head of the ship and exposed nacelles make it quite clearly reminiscent of one. Much more so than the Porsche design too!
@@kobaltmyst8074 The way the nose is shaped is very Y-Wing, imo.
I really like the EC version. It would make a great replacement for the Y-wing as a dedicated heavy bomber. I like the pilot aramgent with a side by side seating like an A-6 Intruder. Make it an assault bomber with Electronic warfare variations. also I like it going without an Astromech droid since it has a dedicated onboard computer.
All you need now are E-wings. also I need to point out it should not look like a Y-Wing since its an Incom design and Y-Wings are not made by Incom.
I was thinking the same thing about the Original Design, Yours is much more "Star-Warsy". It reminds me the V-wing from the First Rogue Squadron released on PC and Nintendo. Great Job ! :)
alex lep the official ship also reminded me too much of the bonus flying car that replaces the v-wing in N64 Rogue Squadron.
David Conant What’s funny about that is that bonus flying car was a Buick.
So much better. Your design exceeds their 1000%. It was immediately clear that your design was Star Wars, even disconnected from anything else.
When I saw the first reveal I thought this video was about how *the design team* went from the first picture to the second. I was blown away.
And now I'm floored because every *single* thing you said was right. A gorgeous design. The folding wings are exactly the right amount of "updated tech* and totally sell this ship for use by the republic. They love these one-off designs but require them to be highly durable, easy to fix, and useful in every situation.
Your design fits the universe, the story, and is logically solid af. Fkin' Well Played.
EC Henry: Hey look at this ship I made.
Marvel Comics Arist: (copy and paste)
Frostfire did they really steal one of his designs?
Space more than one
Space *They stole several people’s designs.*
Purple Emerald *more than several*
FrostyWheats Really? Holy shit, how is it even worse than I thought?
Once again, a fan in their free time does a better job than the professionals.
like always
In a fraction of the time
Don't worry, the "professionals" will just steal it for the next Star Wars comic.
@@sentrysapper45 I've been hearing about that. It's unforgettable as far as I'm concerned.
Lol, the fact is if this design appeared in a film fans would deride it as being unoriginal and derivative, just like they have done for several recent designs that entirely logically were meant to resemble older SW ships. Now if you go the other way in do something unique and different your still going to be shit on, just for an entirely different reason.
I dont thing Henry would ever want to officially design for the franchise, the "fans" are as likely as not going to turn on him with the same self destructive ignorant rage they have been directing at the franchise for years.
The ship worked for the brief few seconds it was on-screen in the Kenobi series
Looks like a very plausible design for an US Air Force Fighter about 50-60 years in "near future"-- you did a spot on job bringing it over to Star Wars universe. Perfect fit!!
"Is my design a better ship?"
Yes. It definitely is.
He increased the profile when viewed from the top or bottom, leaving this ship more vulnerable to point defense and other fighters, especially when hunted from behind (turning to shake them off would expose the large profile).
From an in-universe perspective, I would rather be flying the Porsche ship, even if it doesn't fit in as well.
@@ParaSpite If you are accounting for basic physics, you have no ability to critique a Star Wars ship.
@@melanoc3tusii205
If you are on drugs, you have no ability to critique other commenters. Get clean first, junkie.
Your 200th like
@@ParaSpite As your comment has no basis in reality, I shall instead address your air of negativity in relation to my comment:
Who gives a shit if it's not an optimal design? Starwars ditched that from the very beginning. All that needs to be taken into account is aesthetics, and the original doesn't have them.
I'm saying yours is better. And "Star Citizen" is exactly what i thought about the original.
Oh man, you did an awesome job. I would add your ship to my SW ships collection for sure! Love it.
Speeder that drops out of wing platform to navigate planets. Then drives "into" wing attachment to leave planet.
Porsche's design fits in the prequel's universe.
That's what I was thinking as well. It's not like every ship in StarWars hast the classic "ratty" look to it
It think it still looks out of place in the prequels, lots of the prequel ships (i.e. the Naboo ships) are a lot sleeker and more curved, the engines and the front of the ship on this look way more Star Trek than Star Wars and the matt grey and thin sharp plates just look like generic futuristic aircraft concept art. Maybe the style would fit in with sequel-era ships (looks kind of like some of the Canto Bight stuff) but sadly we didn't see much of them, but when I look at the Porsche design I don't see prequel or OT style.
@@thomaskennydrums true, maybe Mandalorian universe, old republic, pre OT or as u said, sequel. I said the design fits in prequels cus i was imagining if the ship was colored it looks like something Fett would use, or maybe the separatists or citizens of coruscant, perhaps even in clone wars or used in tattooine for racing.
not... really. Maybe it fits some specific obscure company or planet, but definitely not the Grand army of the republic, naboo or the separatists (although maybe it fits the seppies a bit, but i'd say not)
I kind of disagree, it got too many intricate geometries.
I just want to say. The folding wings for me at least, makes the design a million times better. Working on an aircraft carrier that gives me F-18 vibes,
One of the greatest quotes that narrows down what the Star Wars aesthetic is, was said by Adam Savage "Star Wars is a dystopia, Star trek is a Utopia". And that is most prominently shown in the Star Wars ships.
The fact that this guys is better at designing a Star Wars ship than the Star Wars design team is amazing
The Porsche design looks like it would be on one of star wars’s casino world
To me, it looks like it would be right at home next to the Mandalorians ship.
Hahaha.
Am I the only one who got this joke?
Honestly, it could actually work with more minor modifications than EC Henry's... if it were being designed as a fighter for Naboo. Naboo values the artistic quality of their vessels. Swap the engines out for Naboo's preferred aerospike style ones, smooth out the parts a bit, give it the N-1's frontal chrome appearance... You get the point.
Not to knock Canto Bight, I like how the aesthetic clashes with the rest of the galaxy because most ships are rougher and more utilitarian to convey the dystopia of the SW universe while Canto Bight ships are gaudy and flashy, which conveys how out-of-touch Canto Bight is with the rest of the galaxy.
I mean, at least its not a clown ca... I mean, CLOUD car.
Starwars has some of the most talented fans ever. It really seems like the fans know the world better than the people in charge of it.
That's the understatement of the year
Because they do. *True* fans (I say true because the term fan has become so meaningless and light in the modern era) always tend to know more about the franchise than corporate schmucks who only see it as a way to make money. This is why official products designed by actual fans instead of some random big-name Hollywood person tend to be better than the other products. i.e. the live-action Bumblebee movie compared to the later Bayverse movies.
@@CryosisOfficial You mean earlier bayverse movies? Bumblebee wasn't released until 2019 and the Bayformers films were going from 2007-2017
@@tracytron7162 I meant later as in the later Bayverse releases, the first one was pretty good and then it sort of gradually declined in quality.
@@CryosisOfficial Oh ok, gotcha
Your design might not "be too Porsche" but it just SCREAMS Incom. Which is amazing.
Also now I'm pondering a starfighter that is just basically Porsche 911 with wings. Probably an interceptor, like a slightly fatter A-wing.
Porsche's ship is quite cool,
Your design is definitely Star Wars.
The original design looks good. It’s what I would expect a company that makes lavish cars to make in the Star Wars universe for rich and power full leaders or war lords. What you made is what the rebels or resistance would have if they got a hold of some of those Star fighters in a scrap heap and re purposed them.
Bluntly put it looks far too Terran.
Honestly the remake fits the OG trilogy rebel ship designs but like seen in kenobi the original looks really good in the context of it being a ship used for elite class of alderaan it would also fit nicely in naboo or coruscant
Honestly, my personal favourite would be a mix of these two.
I hear your criticism, but honestly, I preferred some design ideas from the original.
This redesign definitely reads star wars much more obviously so, but there can be a mid ground here, which reads porsche car more clearly, but still fits the universe.
Love the redesign, especially how you pulled from other Incom ships! Great way to tie it more into the Star Wars universe.
Why does it always take huge companies a ridiculous amount of time to design something that completely misses the point and then one guy just comes out of nowhere and makes something 10 times better on his own. Really speaks volumes about corporate culture. And when I saw that part where they literally cut the designs and put them together I laughed so hard. Way to erase anything original someone may have come up with and just scramble it all together and make the most generic design possible.
Sometimes too many people on a project can really cloud the design flow. Very strange comparison that might seem out of place. Factorio. It's a game about making factories. Get a bunch of friends to join and you find out real quick that not everybody thinks the same way or plans ahead. Play solo, you can very easily plan out and project your ideas in a single fluid design.
I think the issue tends to be people are jiust assigned to "DESIGN THIS SHIT OR YOU LOSE YOUR JOB" rather then someone who acutally really wants to do it
I think they were trying to emulate the kitbashing used to create the original star wars models.
There's nothing wrong with the cut-out part of the process. However, I think you do have a point about them mixing too many styles.
It's design by committee and to "make everyone feel good" rather than designing by the clear vision of a single or small group of people. American corporate culture is toxic shit and most of the things they create are sub-par garbage.
You're being incredibly humble for such an incredible reinterpretation of a design that needed the fix. Great work!
Hey I know you.
A lot of people are saying it's "better", its clearly more star wars-y but the Porsche design is still very pretty in its own.
Oh it's lovely looking ship, no question. Like you said though, it just doesn't look like a Star Wars ship
Porsches design is realistic and earthy your design is their ship if it was in the Star Wars universe! Good job!!
Porsche design is just plain crap, personally i would have preferred a sci fi version of a F14 Tomcat.
Porsche design: Terran edition
Echenry design: galactic version.
It’s funny everything Hollywood does someone on CZcams does it better.
of course, hollywood is copy waste.
all the young movie-magic creators used to be in Hollywood, now they're here & hollywood struggles more each day to keep up.
Not all of Hollywood.. it's mostly the soulless drones at Disney that have no hearts left that pour their misguided ineptitude into it
Well in Hollywood, the board has final say on anything these days. And the board doesn't even know what they are looking at.
I work in the industry. It’s not us, it’s these soulless companies calling the shots. We have almost zero creative control nowadays. It’s whatever the suits above us demand.
If you just remove the wing pieces extending out of the side reactor thingies, it would look a lot more like Star Wars
Also a lot more Porsche oddly enough
Lol you're not wrong
Your model is more in keeping with Star Wars' design philosophy by far. It looks great!
I approve of these alterations! I felt the same when I first saw it. I liked it, but it felt like it belonged in Star Citzen or Mass Effect.
The Porsche design miiiight look at home in the prequels (or at least pre-clone wars) but that's iffy at best. I like your thoughts about it.
Not really, even the sleeker "futuristic" designs of for example the Nubian ship is based on art deco, which is retrofuturistic in an older sense, which is fitting as they take place 30 years before A New Hope. 30 years before 1977 is 1947, roughly the time period art deco originates from
Reminds me of one of those ships upper ses corusant citizens fly around in.
When you focus on the task instead of the collectively shared ad revenue.
I mean, goodness gracious that "collaboration room" must have just been a pure battlefield of clashing artistic visions and contract/legal chicanery in order for them to spit out a design as bad as THAT.
Just saw the design featured briefly in the new Kenobi series and immediately had to think of your iteration of this ship. But when I looked closer I was disappointed to see that it was actually Porsche's design, with the pointy wing tips and all. Just shows how recognizable actual Star Wars-esque designlanguage really is. Amazing job on this one!
It's from Alderaan, it fits with that planets aesthetic.
In what episode did you see it?
@@fabianoperes2155 In the first episode, just when Leia was ship-gazing in the woods
@@Tazirai Good point, their speeders and transports have a similar appearance. Looking at it as (canonically) an Incom ship tho, I don't really get the same feeling I get with EC Henry's lovely design
Their design looks like its out of Star Citizen, yours looks like its out of Star Wars.
Yeah, it does kind of look like a Drake ship, which is odd as that's the lowest tier manufacturer technology and design wise and not a Porsche equivalent, more like old Soviet MIG or MIL designs.
@@darjanator Thing is its not a BAD design, I could see Incom making it, we know they can make sleek and stylish stuff. Look at the Clone Wars Y-Wing for example. We know that the Incom fighters made by rebels were made in converted ships, in hangars or caves and not some mass produced factory. They'd probably strip anything off them they didn't need to produce a bare bones, but very effective craft. The Porsche ship is possibly what Incom COULD do, if you had the credits and needed to make a ship that was both effective, modern and sleek. Instead of easy to maintain, cheap to build, rugged and effective. Its like comparing an Italian Sports car to a good old Toyota Pickup Truck.
@@sharlin648 well to be frank there are incom designs from legends new republic era they are still rugged but had sleeks futuristic taste (e wing, XJ wing and stealth X) maybe because those design came from 80s to 90s
"The design should look star wars without any blatant placement of a familiar element"
- EC Henry
I don't see how that original design doesn't work. I think it works quite well. It looks like a high-end starfighter-type craft that someone rich might employ, perhaps in a private security or private military contractor role. Honestly it kind of reminds me of the Naboo N-1 with its sleekness. Also looks like a sort of next-gen evolution of starfighter tech. After all, modern fighter jets look much sleeker than they used to.
your design would work better in the Galactic Civil War era of the Original Trilogy. The Porsche design looks like it would be more at home in the Sequels or later, or perhaps the Prequels, like the N-1.
My guy ffs please make a movie or animated fictional documentary series about Star Wars mechanics and vehicles because this is just fucking fantastic my guy, you could make soooo much animation and design and a lot of us here will still be hungry for more. You and Mr. Angelos are fucking awesome