@@robloxcodepaster but is that even true? PCs overall have a wider variety and are much less restricted than consoles, you can also find a good gaming pc for 500-600 bucks. In all honestly, paying even an extra 500 for a pc over a console is a much better choice imo.
@@robloxcodepaster also new gen consoles can sometimes need incredible WiFi just to work properly. Personally me and everyone I’ve spoken to with a new gen console suffer connection and lag issues with even 5G WiFi and a great connection, whereas when I switch to the same game on my OFFICE laptop I receive no lag whatsoever. In all honestly after a couple tweaks my office laptop runs better than my Xbox, only downside being the graphics of course.
If I had to choose I would go for PC. Cause I love how I can play games online for free without paying for a subscription. I love how I can mod my games like GTA v. I also use my PC for starting up my business and doing zoom classes and meetings. So PC would be for me.
Want to know the best part? A part in my PC died, but I'm not forced to go out and get a brand new PC as I can still technically use my PC in it's current state, or since it is so modular, I can swap out the part
@@robloxcodepasterI mean my pc was maybe $150-$200 more than a PS5 and is way better than one. Could have saved that $150-$200 if I went all used. But my gpu was the only used part and is still running just fine.
I mean wow litarlly does that same exact same thing. Now I play cod so I don't have to pay for a monthly sub just to get some free stuff, camos, charms, etc. But wow, naw. You can't buy the game and just play it no sir-re. I also do believe that there's multiple levels of sub they have as well. My friends try to get me to play it and I'm like naw fuck that. That's litarlly a waste of money monthly and I can put it towards games, electronics, etc. Also wow stands for world of warcraft or whatever.
Consoles i like the fact im playing other people using the same system as me, So its a even playing field oh and less likely to face cheaters since i stay away from crossplay.
I can’t imagine playing Skyrim without slapping a thick layer of 900+ mods on top that make it run, look, and play better than any Triple A title. God bless for PC gaming.
Why do people still complain about drivers lol? Not only will most software automatically notify you, you can go months without updating and still be fine! I hung back on an old nvidia driver because newer ones introduced a bug and stayed on it for about six months until it was fixed, no issues.
Fr lmao, if people are still complaining about drivers it’s literally a skill issue, i haven’t had a single issue with my drivers during the whole 3 years I’ve had my pc.
I have both, but with consoles you just open the new game and play. A PC might force you to install other software just to get them to work such as EA, Steam, Epic, etc, set up sound and graphic settings, check if your equipment meets minimum requirements before even buying a game.
The “downsides” you listed are minor ones at most. It takes 5 minutes to download and set up Steam. Piracy also works, preinstalled games work wonders. Checking if your equipment is compatible? Genuinely confused on how you think this is a notable downside. It takes a few seconds to read. And, your equipment WILL be good enough to run said game, assuming you spent more than 200$. Setting up sound and graphic settings. You have to do this on console too. This is not a downside, just settings. How the fuck do you include settings as a downside? I own a PC and a PS4. I can safely say PC gaming is MUCH better for my wallet. It’s also more convenient, as I can do my work and classes on my PC.
Listen, I love PC. I just built a new one and I love it. I put an RTX 4080 and an i5 14600K with 32GB of DDR5 RAM and a 4TB SN850X m.2 SSD in mine. I say all of that to say, I LOVE PC. However, it is not even close to being as affordable as console. Even if you don’t go all out, if you’re buying new parts, you will never be able to build a PC that gets similar performance as a current-gen console for the same price. It just won’t happen. PC is for those of us who love gaming to the point that we are willing to spend extra for the great gaming experience! It’s not a smart option at all for people who just care about playing the newest games. There are a lot of benefits to PC (such as the indie marketplace), but it’s simply not cheaper.
Yeah high end PC gaming comes at a price. I mean I have well over $3000 in my tower alone. But I have a full on sim rig around $5000. A console can't do that. I have 6 monitors plugged into my rig. I run all the games on Ultra settings with everything checked even with DLAA. That is the price you pay when you can afford it. People only hate on it when they don't have the budget.
Yeah... Highend PCs are people that actually can afford it. It's the big boys version of freedom. Most people that be complaining about PC problems have the shittiest and I mean the worst PC parts or they just don't do research on which parts is compatible with eachother not to mention there are those other people who think it's okay to neglect their PCs of maintenance or cleaning.
Only true if you are using brand new parts. However, if you use second hands parts, then you can build a PC that will be on par or better than consoles for less than or close to 500$. Linus Tech Tips recently made a video on this.
Have both, and actually i enjoy play in console. But in some case i more enjoy play in PC, because i can alt+tab, listen music, join voice chat discord, gaming and do work at one device, and play CZcams or Googling when gaming. When you have long holiday console really become your best friend. But when your already have tight schedule for work and little time for gaming PC will help in this case.
I will say, i do miss not being obsessed with hardware. Since building a PC in 2017, i have become obsessed with all the new goodies. I kind of miss the mindless bliss of consoles.
@@pieathart yes because consoles are made with black magic that just constantly upgrades itself so it stays "new" despite being years older than these parts you "have to" upgrade "every year". Wtf kinda logic is that?
sound like U would be Obsessed the same way if Consoles had the same options it's only less stress bc u don't even have the option presented to u because PS5 and Xbox would lose money if customers had the option to upgrade what they want, how they want y'all wouldn't care Abt ps6 when it comes out
Whenever i have asked a pc person to build me a pc equivalent to a ps5 specs, they have always claimed its cheaper but never built one thats cheaper than 900 euros.
one thing I love about PC is that "generations" don't exist. you don't need leftovers in the form of remasters and ports you can just play some of the oldest games just like that
Let’s be fair. You can build an equivalent spec machine if you buy some used parts and know what you’re doing. You’re not going to Best Buy and leaving with a PS5 killer for $500. You don’t build/buy a pc because you want a console experience. It’s because you want more. Part of building a PC is the building, optimizing, tuning, upgrading, and maintaining of it. You buy a PS5 to go ooooo when you open it and never think about it again. It’s like a tv. It’s there and you appreciate it, but your relationship is that you just use it.
Ive never had a console, but i get why people prefer a console. Its much more simple than a pc, you just buy it and play games on it. Most people dont want to modify things. And its cheap.
@@attackhelicopter588exclusives are ass now. Nothing came out recently that made me want to buy a console. Xbox has no exclusives. I did buy the PS5 for Ff16 but spider man and god of war felt like the same game, disappointed.
A console is the upfront cheapest way to get into gaming. while I agree pc is better and every gamer should invest in one if financially able, you gotta remember not every gamers situation is the same.
Man, don't you love it when consoles upscale from 480p to 4K. Looks though like people don't care as long as they can say it runs at "4K". I wonder where Nvidia got the idea of ditching performance improvements for below 1080p upscaling.
Also depends on the game tho...for example that stupid final fantasy game still requires a subscription... But I get what you're saying. Sony and Nintendo are crazy.
It's entirely a lie to say that a $300 rig can compare to a console, for a graphics card that even comes close to the performance of series X or PS5 is over $300
Same for me. I think both are amazing systems on their own but just not having to do all the troubleshooting necessary to get my games up and running is why I prefer consoles.
Its PC mAsTeR rAcE until you have to trouble shoot to play games, figure out why your PC is crashing, or you get BSOD, or have to optimize your own settings to play. On top of that, you need internet access to play the games you purchased. My internet went out for about 2 weeks and couldn't play the steam games I bought without internet. Thankfully i had my xbox and ps5.
@@McGeezle sorry for the late response. What bs? Pretty much exactly what was commented under my comment. Always having to trouble shoot stuff. Sometimes it's driver updates, other times it's other issues. I like the ease of turning on my console and bam! Ready to game in like mere seconds. Don't get me wrong I love PC gaming. Just tired of the constant headaches. GG
While I play on all platforms (Xbox, PlayStation, Switch, and PC), I main Xbox, personally. It's the most comfortable gaming space/community and it's where I have the most games at. Every platform has its advantages and disadvantages. The "best platform" will *always* be the space a given Gamer prefer to play at. There is no logic in debating this.
You can honestly only argue about the price, where consoles should win for performance, if you look at them as plain computers (because companies don't make a profit off the hardware). But that doesn't mean much, because it's evened out by more expensive games and accessories. So the more accessories and games you buy, the cheaper the PC gets. But what is ultimately best for someone depends on way more than the price, so the argument which is best is completely pointless indeed.
@@samelosito The games I buy on Xbox are just as cheap as the ones I buy on PC. There is no price difference between the two. I am sure that was true in the past, but that is not my experience. You can argue any point you want, honestly. But the end result is what I said it would be: the best platform will always end up being your preference. There is no debating this. Not successfully at least.
@@BrotherKnowledge. I usually buy games on sites like G2A where they are certainly cheaper. I pay $40 for a game that costs $60+ on console. Or during steam sales they are also cheaper. I agreed with you if you read my whole comment, I just said you can argue about the cost, because that's a number, it's objective. In the end what is better is subjective.
@@samelosito Likewise. Though my websites of choice are CDKeys and Eneba. I read your comment, and thank you. I just don't think that cost is an objective price point to talk about, either. Be a use it fluctuates so much and is so heavily dependent on timing. An, iin too many instances, even when PC games are cheaper, the difference between the two is so minimal as to make it inconsequential. For example: One of my favorite games from last generation: Assassin's Creed Unity. A year after it dropped, I was able to get the game, digitally, for $1.32 off of CDKeys. On PC, I found it for $0.78 instead. Was it cheaper on PC? Yeah. It was. By like fifty cents or so. And you know what? I got that bad boy on Xbox instead, because what's fifty cents? This is why I don't view game prices as an objective measure, either. Because the variables are far too vast for me to do so. But to each their own, though.
Whats nice about console its just plug and play, dont have to worry about anything, and if your pc breaks your on your own. For me console is just overall a better experience and this is coming from someone who uses both.
What I'm trying to say here is that if your console breaks the company that made it will take care of it and fix it. You don't need to have prior knowledge for consoles. With PC though there're hundreds of things that can go wrong and no one is going to help you fix it. Console is just overall more user friendly.
You have to put so much into a pc in order to have great quality to compete and on top of that pc come with a lot of software issues and updates because it’s not typically designed to run some of the popular games that console players play
Naw, you could build that for $230-250 easily going used parts. maybe only good for 1080p now, but 6 months down the line you could put a better used graphics card in and sell the old card and make some money back. If people can crypto mine for 24/7 and their cards still work after years of use then I don't see any real risk in getting moderately used hardware. Especially with ebay's money back guarantee and paypal's protection program, It's very unlikely you get scammed unless you purposely ignore all the red flags in a post.(price waaay too good to be right but only having card as a payment method, title and description not matching, photo of a different product) Facebook Marketplace is a good option too
The more knowledgeable I became with technology in general, the more I realized that console gaming is just the layman's way of being able to play games (I don't mean that in an offending way, I've owned many consoles over the past two decades) it's just being a PC primary for the past 10 years has shown me the strengths and weaknesses in full effect. If you know hardware and you know software, you know PC gaming is the most open ended experience, especially today. When, where and how you want quite literally. PC is emulating Nintendo games better than their console can play them itself for crying out loud... I mean 🙃
@@grindelmichel1473 they always run better than the console version in no time. And by better I mean astronomically better. With any input device you want
I stay pc exclusive, for many reasons, especially due to upgradability, mod support in games or just using the console. Map editing in tons of stuff. Also pretty much the whole RTS genre is forgotten about on console. An entire genre! I got my Gog library full of games i can tweak in many ways using DGvoodoo, unofficial patches, same thing on Steam some singleplayer titles. I use emulation if i need to play console exclusive, currently using Xenia. So highest i can go is Xbox 360 (or Ps3) for now i guess.
I just went on PCPartPicker and set up a PC build with a 5600, RX 6600, 16GB of RAM, and a 1Tb NVME SSD. That should handily outperform a PS5 and have all of the features of a PC, and it was $600, but I could’ve totally gone down to $500 if I hadn’t overspeced and still beaten the PS5.
PC gaming is about the same as a console, but the biggest issue is that a PC is way too complicated. A console runs good straight out of the box and you don't need to know what a driver or BIOS is or how to update them.
Yeah the only problem is the most PC gamers are like Dream stans when someone just MENTIONS that they play on a Console (I literally have a fight with a dude who claims that no one plays Minecraft Bedrock and i just said you literally can play it on Mobile, Ps4/5, Xbox and Nintendo Switch, He said a Pc takes up less space than a Ps5 lmao)
@@Cake2019_6 if they have a decent PC. I have a terrible one and I side with console players most of the time (half because I'm more of a console player, the other half is because that PC gamer is just stupid)
It literally takes 10 minutes to learn and do either of those things and is a massive positive over a console due to the features it allows. Learning that also provides valuable knowledge for any job that requires the use of a pc.
The current consoles are near impossible to beat price to performance if just for gaming. I guess you could match their price is you wanted to play at 720 upscaled to 1080p. Because of how they are designed and how devs can optimize for them you would need a R5 7600 and RX 6800 to keep up with them. Now the previous generation had terrible hardware and nearly anything could match them. But for 1440p 60fps with high settings in current gen only games you can't do that with a $500 PC.
Not true rx 6800 is 16tflops wich is way more than series x 12tflops ps5 10tflops and series s 4tflops closest gpu to match to ps5 is rx 6700 with 11 tflops,closest gpu to match series x is 6700 xt 13tflops and closest to series s is rx 6500 xt 5 tflops
@@anonymous16472 yes but you will have to use CPU or GPU decompression to bypass PC not having a dedicated io component to decompress and stream assets from the SSD to the shared memory. Will also have to use some brute force to make up for the lack of optimization. All ps5s have the same hardware so it's easier to optimize around. PC has a huge range of hardware. While the 6700 does match up best to the consoles when looking at raw specs alone, the optimization and better designed hardware in it's APU more than makes up for that. You will not be running current gen only games at 1440p/4k at 60fps/30fps on equal hardware (3700x and 6700) on PC. Consoles typically punch above their weight. That's why you keep up with them you need to brute force and have better specs then they have. Now with the previous gen consoles anything could brute force past their hardware that was weak even in 2013 when it launched. Current consoles are actually very well designed for gaming and moving massive amounts of assets quickly.
consoles may be great price to performance but it seems like people just want to move to pc. i’m a pc flipper and i keep getting messages of people wanting to trade their ps5 or xbox series s for a pc
@@someguywithmtndew5691 yeah I much prefer PC myself. I get why people would rather have one. And in a few years they will catch up to the consoles in price to performance again. It's just the first time in a long time that consoles where so good when they launched. The PS4/XB1 gen was super easy to beat. But the same thing as now pretty much happened when the 360 came out.
@@Sp3cialk304 Fair point that's why consoles today are great but the problem a lot of gamers today wanted freedom and hell not all want to pay games but wanted to try it like Ac games many don't like today so they tend to pick pc and pirate it instead. Pcs are for people who wanted options , consoles are for people who wanted the current best readily
Spider-man 2 became an ok game right after the first scene, I don't play that game anymore thing got boring af. The thing is just sitting there, might delete it
The 1080ti is as good as a 2060 or rx 6600xt in lots of games. That's the gret thing about pc gaming, you get a super expensive baller pc and you're set for set for at least 7 years of new releases. The 1080ti is around 6 years old now and should still be able to put up a good fight for a few more years to come with tools like fsr getting better and better
@@bangla_saab it would be weird if it wasn't running at 60fps considering you literally have no video option so I don't see how you could fuck your frames. Kind of like how it's impossible to crash a cable car because you have no control
@@donaldhobson9027 i am refeering to the fact he says the 1080ti is 6 years old and i still good but my ps4 is 10 years old and still preforms quite well
@@bangla_saabyes and the person you replied to is pointing out how there’s no video options on a console. With all the mods and options on pc it’s more impressive for a 6-7 year old gpu to hold its own against newer AAA titles than a console with a limited amount of games that allow for the type of video settings you get on pc. It’s nice the console is still doing good but that’s to be expected since consoles are supposed to last long. PC parts as well but since there’s more customization there’s always new and better versions of old hardware.
And you can also do other works like Video Editing, Photo editing, etc. and there are some games which are not available in console such as Valorant or league of legends, Dota 2.
I have both honestly I gotta stop buying stuff and fixing it and start selling some stuff my room is getting out of hand😂😂 wires everywhere controllers, games, then my coffee table is a mess from all the tools I need for mirco soldering 😂
@@JessicaRodriguez-gi2cl pcs have better graphics card, more fps, etc. Consoles have exclusives, can be played from your living room tv, can be brought to hotels, etc. So both are good (Pc may be a bit better, but consoles are more simple)
Thank god I thought that toasty bros went insane for a sec💀
They had us in the first half ngl
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Console way better than pc for value imo, if ur budget is below 1k get console
@@robloxcodepaster but is that even true? PCs overall have a wider variety and are much less restricted than consoles, you can also find a good gaming pc for 500-600 bucks. In all honestly, paying even an extra 500 for a pc over a console is a much better choice imo.
@@robloxcodepaster also new gen consoles can sometimes need incredible WiFi just to work properly. Personally me and everyone I’ve spoken to with a new gen console suffer connection and lag issues with even 5G WiFi and a great connection, whereas when I switch to the same game on my OFFICE laptop I receive no lag whatsoever. In all honestly after a couple tweaks my office laptop runs better than my Xbox, only downside being the graphics of course.
Me who has both: 🗿
😂
Same fr
Yeah I want to get a pc sometime
I’m getting a pc for Christmas
@@rubix7777 same
Me with my pirated games on PC:
i got like 150 gb of pirated games on my pc 💀
@@ispeel2644shhhhh dont tell them
@@ispeel2644how?
I’m telling nobody..
@@ispeel2644 i had 1tb💀
Don't pirate good games
If I had to choose I would go for PC. Cause I love how I can play games online for free without paying for a subscription.
I love how I can mod my games like GTA v.
I also use my PC for starting up my business and doing zoom classes and meetings.
So PC would be for me.
Yeah they should have also mentioned you have to play to play most online games
Play to play?
pay
@@MJaccobFTW
@@MJaccobFTW my bad i ment *pay* for you know xbox live gold and the play station eqivalint
All good
Want to know the best part? A part in my PC died, but I'm not forced to go out and get a brand new PC as I can still technically use my PC in it's current state, or since it is so modular, I can swap out the part
After you realize Consoles have infinite warranty:
@@robloxcodepaster till they upgrade to the next one and you have to buy a whole new console
@@yeetusthyself-musicI'd rather buy a new console with 0 bottlenecks compared to a gpu more expensive than the console itself
@@robloxcodepasterI mean my pc was maybe $150-$200 more than a PS5 and is way better than one. Could have saved that $150-$200 if I went all used. But my gpu was the only used part and is still running just fine.
@@robloxcodepaster💀
Well, on console I have to fucking pay for a subscription just to play a multiplayer game I already paid for $60
I mean wow litarlly does that same exact same thing. Now I play cod so I don't have to pay for a monthly sub just to get some free stuff, camos, charms, etc. But wow, naw. You can't buy the game and just play it no sir-re. I also do believe that there's multiple levels of sub they have as well. My friends try to get me to play it and I'm like naw fuck that. That's litarlly a waste of money monthly and I can put it towards games, electronics, etc. Also wow stands for world of warcraft or whatever.
Consoles i like the fact im playing other people using the same system as me, So its a even playing field oh and less likely to face cheaters since i stay away from crossplay.
And you and opponents can't blame there system for losing
Lol console is filled with zen and xim cheaters and sony/xbox just ignore it.
@@W1ldSm1leit isn't really ive seen it twice and the only game i saw it on was seige
@@Hex05 rust and seige are filled with it.
@@Hex05 isnt siege cross platform
me emulating 3ds and switch games on my PC :troll:
@nintendo
@Nintendo
Yes i use yuzu too
@Nintendo
@@theunknown7441 don't act like you guys don't emulate GBA games DS games or anything
If my “friends” tell me that I break off the relationship
I can’t imagine playing Skyrim without slapping a thick layer of 900+ mods on top that make it run, look, and play better than any Triple A title. God bless for PC gaming.
since im more broke than a college student, my laptop probably cant even run skyrim in 9 fps
how exactly? its a closed system lmfao@@phoenixwhiler943
where u downloaded mods is there a subreddit for modding?
@@aibi5532go to nexsus its biggest moding platform
Swearrrrrrrrr
im the type of person to play pc with a controller
Same
There is just so many options with PC.
I'm the type of person to play PC with joy cons
Same and im on a couch with a 32" monitor.
@@elusive4072I literally just bought a pc today to do just that, 4k pc couch gaming is the move
Why do people still complain about drivers lol? Not only will most software automatically notify you, you can go months without updating and still be fine! I hung back on an old nvidia driver because newer ones introduced a bug and stayed on it for about six months until it was fixed, no issues.
I went 2 years without updating my drivers with my 2070 super
@@shiroiokami9 🥲
Fr lmao, if people are still complaining about drivers it’s literally a skill issue, i haven’t had a single issue with my drivers during the whole 3 years I’ve had my pc.
I have both, but with consoles you just open the new game and play. A PC might force you to install other software just to get them to work such as EA, Steam, Epic, etc, set up sound and graphic settings, check if your equipment meets minimum requirements before even buying a game.
The “downsides” you listed are minor ones at most.
It takes 5 minutes to download and set up Steam. Piracy also works, preinstalled games work wonders.
Checking if your equipment is compatible? Genuinely confused on how you think this is a notable downside. It takes a few seconds to read. And, your equipment WILL be good enough to run said game, assuming you spent more than 200$.
Setting up sound and graphic settings. You have to do this on console too. This is not a downside, just settings. How the fuck do you include settings as a downside?
I own a PC and a PS4. I can safely say PC gaming is MUCH better for my wallet. It’s also more convenient, as I can do my work and classes on my PC.
Listen, I love PC. I just built a new one and I love it. I put an RTX 4080 and an i5 14600K with 32GB of DDR5 RAM and a 4TB SN850X m.2 SSD in mine. I say all of that to say, I LOVE PC. However, it is not even close to being as affordable as console. Even if you don’t go all out, if you’re buying new parts, you will never be able to build a PC that gets similar performance as a current-gen console for the same price. It just won’t happen. PC is for those of us who love gaming to the point that we are willing to spend extra for the great gaming experience! It’s not a smart option at all for people who just care about playing the newest games. There are a lot of benefits to PC (such as the indie marketplace), but it’s simply not cheaper.
Yeah high end PC gaming comes at a price. I mean I have well over $3000 in my tower alone. But I have a full on sim rig around $5000. A console can't do that. I have 6 monitors plugged into my rig. I run all the games on Ultra settings with everything checked even with DLAA. That is the price you pay when you can afford it. People only hate on it when they don't have the budget.
Yeah... Highend PCs are people that actually can afford it. It's the big boys version of freedom. Most people that be complaining about PC problems have the shittiest and I mean the worst PC parts or they just don't do research on which parts is compatible with eachother not to mention there are those other people who think it's okay to neglect their PCs of maintenance or cleaning.
Yeah it’s expensive at first but in the long run it saves you a fortune in subscriptions and game sales
Only true if you are using brand new parts. However, if you use second hands parts, then you can build a PC that will be on par or better than consoles for less than or close to 500$. Linus Tech Tips recently made a video on this.
Nice job with the loop. Well done sirs
As a user of a console and a PC, I would say that typically a gaming PC would be a much better gaming device than a console.
Have both, and actually i enjoy play in console. But in some case i more enjoy play in PC, because i can alt+tab, listen music, join voice chat discord, gaming and do work at one device, and play CZcams or Googling when gaming.
When you have long holiday console really become your best friend. But when your already have tight schedule for work and little time for gaming PC will help in this case.
I will say, i do miss not being obsessed with hardware. Since building a PC in 2017, i have become obsessed with all the new goodies. I kind of miss the mindless bliss of consoles.
Very relatable
Having to worry if i need to upgrade every year for the next big game i wanna play 😭😭😭
@@pieathart yes because consoles are made with black magic that just constantly upgrades itself so it stays "new" despite being years older than these parts you "have to" upgrade "every year".
Wtf kinda logic is that?
sound like U would be Obsessed the same way if Consoles had the same options it's only less stress bc u don't even have the option presented to u because PS5 and Xbox would lose money if customers had the option to upgrade what they want, how they want y'all wouldn't care Abt ps6 when it comes out
That is why you get higher end main components and just upgrade the graphics card every other year and sell the old one. That is what I do....
Bro was a lil afraid talking about cracked games on pc💀
Your PS5 might be cool and all but can it do THIS?
* Opens CMD as admin and hacks the NASA database *
Whenever i have asked a pc person to build me a pc equivalent to a ps5 specs, they have always claimed its cheaper but never built one thats cheaper than 900 euros.
you can get the parts equivalent of a ps5 for only 500 usd which is the msrp of the ps5
one thing I love about PC is that "generations" don't exist. you don't need leftovers in the form of remasters and ports you can just play some of the oldest games just like that
@@grindelmichel1473 ...as opposed to consoles?
Pcgamingwiki is your friend
Amen
Also a $1000 pc I got in 2016 still works perfectly for me now, that's $125/year and can still get lower with time
Let’s be fair. You can build an equivalent spec machine if you buy some used parts and know what you’re doing. You’re not going to Best Buy and leaving with a PS5 killer for $500. You don’t build/buy a pc because you want a console experience. It’s because you want more. Part of building a PC is the building, optimizing, tuning, upgrading, and maintaining of it. You buy a PS5 to go ooooo when you open it and never think about it again. It’s like a tv. It’s there and you appreciate it, but your relationship is that you just use it.
Just don't buy a console 🤦🏻the utility and modifications of pcs make consoles look like a joke 💀
Ive never had a console, but i get why people prefer a console. Its much more simple than a pc, you just buy it and play games on it. Most people dont want to modify things. And its cheap.
@@tojassargaja2085you can do so much more on a PC other than games.
@@attackhelicopter588exclusives are ass now. Nothing came out recently that made me want to buy a console. Xbox has no exclusives. I did buy the PS5 for Ff16 but spider man and god of war felt like the same game, disappointed.
A console is the upfront cheapest way to get into gaming. while I agree pc is better and every gamer should invest in one if financially able, you gotta remember not every gamers situation is the same.
Why cant both be appreciated? Everything doesn’t have to be a competition and not everyone has the money for the pc stuff
Console users paying subscriptions for multiplayer.
My favorite thing about PC gaming is I could hop on Fifa online for free when I want instead of paying and being forced to use that online time
Man, don't you love it when consoles upscale from 480p to 4K. Looks though like people don't care as long as they can say it runs at "4K". I wonder where Nvidia got the idea of ditching performance improvements for below 1080p upscaling.
Yooooo your forgetting that on pc playing with people online is for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No subscription included 😂😂
Also, the Epic game store gives out free games.
Also depends on the game tho...for example that stupid final fantasy game still requires a subscription... But I get what you're saying. Sony and Nintendo are crazy.
And on console you can actually give a friend your game without sharing an account
everything else in this video is agreeable but the driver part on PC was actually such a cope lol
I think most of the people complaining about it haven't touched PC gaming since 2007. LOL
Man that Vegeta look brings back memories...
ITS OVER 9000
😂😂😂
Dont forget that console only has 500 gigabytes💀
Cap
It's entirely a lie to say that a $300 rig can compare to a console, for a graphics card that even comes close to the performance of series X or PS5 is over $300
He’s talking about used parts
A used 2070 super is less than $150 and equivalent to the ps5 gpu/rx 6700
@@n9s3nse10 and it doesnt get capped to a measly 30/60/120 fps and can go much higher on less demanding games
@@n9s3nse10well, can you even run 4k 60? also people researched and its equivalent to a 3060TI
@@virtualated with fsr? Yes. But that's not actual 4k.
Went from PC to console to PC back to console. Less BS honestly.
What bs
Wait a while you will go back to pc 😂
Same for me. I think both are amazing systems on their own but just not having to do all the troubleshooting necessary to get my games up and running is why I prefer consoles.
Its PC mAsTeR rAcE until you have to trouble shoot to play games, figure out why your PC is crashing, or you get BSOD, or have to optimize your own settings to play. On top of that, you need internet access to play the games you purchased. My internet went out for about 2 weeks and couldn't play the steam games I bought without internet. Thankfully i had my xbox and ps5.
@@McGeezle sorry for the late response. What bs? Pretty much exactly what was commented under my comment. Always having to trouble shoot stuff. Sometimes it's driver updates, other times it's other issues. I like the ease of turning on my console and bam! Ready to game in like mere seconds. Don't get me wrong I love PC gaming. Just tired of the constant headaches. GG
That twist ending was 👌 better than most movie ends these dayS
Don't let anyone tell you PC isn't expensive, you'll buy a cheap starter then you'll find yourself looking at upgrades withing a month or 2
PC gaming is not nearly as good as console - SO FUNNY AND INCORRECT
While I play on all platforms (Xbox, PlayStation, Switch, and PC), I main Xbox, personally. It's the most comfortable gaming space/community and it's where I have the most games at.
Every platform has its advantages and disadvantages. The "best platform" will *always* be the space a given Gamer prefer to play at. There is no logic in debating this.
W answer.
You can honestly only argue about the price, where consoles should win for performance, if you look at them as plain computers (because companies don't make a profit off the hardware). But that doesn't mean much, because it's evened out by more expensive games and accessories. So the more accessories and games you buy, the cheaper the PC gets.
But what is ultimately best for someone depends on way more than the price, so the argument which is best is completely pointless indeed.
@@samelosito
The games I buy on Xbox are just as cheap as the ones I buy on PC. There is no price difference between the two. I am sure that was true in the past, but that is not my experience.
You can argue any point you want, honestly. But the end result is what I said it would be: the best platform will always end up being your preference. There is no debating this. Not successfully at least.
@@BrotherKnowledge. I usually buy games on sites like G2A where they are certainly cheaper. I pay $40 for a game that costs $60+ on console. Or during steam sales they are also cheaper.
I agreed with you if you read my whole comment, I just said you can argue about the cost, because that's a number, it's objective. In the end what is better is subjective.
@@samelosito
Likewise. Though my websites of choice are CDKeys and Eneba.
I read your comment, and thank you. I just don't think that cost is an objective price point to talk about, either. Be a use it fluctuates so much and is so heavily dependent on timing. An, iin too many instances, even when PC games are cheaper, the difference between the two is so minimal as to make it inconsequential. For example:
One of my favorite games from last generation: Assassin's Creed Unity.
A year after it dropped, I was able to get the game, digitally, for $1.32 off of CDKeys. On PC, I found it for $0.78 instead.
Was it cheaper on PC? Yeah. It was. By like fifty cents or so. And you know what? I got that bad boy on Xbox instead, because what's fifty cents?
This is why I don't view game prices as an objective measure, either. Because the variables are far too vast for me to do so. But to each their own, though.
This is the most perfect and satisfying loop I’ve ever seen
Mods are a double edge sword. So cool when they work properly
I love toasty bros 😊
Ayo 🤨📸
Whats nice about console its just plug and play, dont have to worry about anything, and if your pc breaks your on your own. For me console is just overall a better experience and this is coming from someone who uses both.
If your pc breaks you open it up and repair it if your console breaks your on your own 😂
If u have an opinion make sure you know what your saying bruh
@@joj4096 ong bro
Idk about you dude but all I've ever done was just turn my PC on and play.
What I'm trying to say here is that if your console breaks the company that made it will take care of it and fix it. You don't need to have prior knowledge for consoles. With PC though there're hundreds of things that can go wrong and no one is going to help you fix it. Console is just overall more user friendly.
You have to put so much into a pc in order to have great quality to compete and on top of that pc come with a lot of software issues and updates because it’s not typically designed to run some of the popular games that console players play
You forgot to factor in the cost of XBox Live or PlayStation Network.
Lmao 300 dollars that's BS minimum after inflation for a good 1080p is 500- 550 bucks.
Naw, you could build that for $230-250 easily going used parts. maybe only good for 1080p now, but 6 months down the line you could put a better used graphics card in and sell the old card and make some money back. If people can crypto mine for 24/7 and their cards still work after years of use then I don't see any real risk in getting moderately used hardware. Especially with ebay's money back guarantee and paypal's protection program, It's very unlikely you get scammed unless you purposely ignore all the red flags in a post.(price waaay too good to be right but only having card as a payment method, title and description not matching, photo of a different product) Facebook Marketplace is a good option too
also the tick is to look for office towers with decent cpus in them for cheap, you can then slot in an rx 580 in. Then, boom, e-sports rig for
The more knowledgeable I became with technology in general, the more I realized that console gaming is just the layman's way of being able to play games (I don't mean that in an offending way, I've owned many consoles over the past two decades) it's just being a PC primary for the past 10 years has shown me the strengths and weaknesses in full effect. If you know hardware and you know software, you know PC gaming is the most open ended experience, especially today. When, where and how you want quite literally. PC is emulating Nintendo games better than their console can play them itself for crying out loud... I mean 🙃
Bro figured out the matrix 😂
Same reason why many enthusiast likes LInus OS
Did you build the 300 gaming pc or was it prebuilt
Exactly! I spent close to $300 on the case alone 😂
Someone else spent $800 on it and gave it to them for $300
Me on Debian having all my driver's updated without even having to have my computer on: 🗿
linux gang 🗿
also have you ever experienced sound driver issues?
This is why I have both
Magine paying 10 dollars a month to use internet that you already pay for.
thank god games i play online can be ran on my laptop ^^
@@grindelmichel1473 they always run better than the console version in no time. And by better I mean astronomically better. With any input device you want
Console gamer: Laughing at 30FPS
PC gamer: Also laughing at 180HZ
anyone that says pc is worse than console is out of their minds.
PS5: $500
PC: $3,000
PC Games: $50
PS5 Games: $5,000
Why does everyone always say $3000? That's more than triple what you need to match a PS5
@@McGeezle I think that an rtx 2060 super is above a ps5 in terms of graphics but not that expensive
@@McGeezleim confused…are you saying pc isn’t cheap? Even a gaming laptop runs 900-2000 bucks
@@TinyyTinkerbell 3k being more than triple still leaves room for expensive
'' from one game store ''
Game disks : ☠️
1. Download an emulator
2. Connect any controller
3. -pirate- legally acquire and play console games
Definition of “they had me in the first half ngl”
I stay pc exclusive, for many reasons, especially due to upgradability, mod support in games or just using the console. Map editing in tons of stuff.
Also pretty much the whole RTS genre is forgotten about on console. An entire genre!
I got my Gog library full of games i can tweak in many ways using DGvoodoo, unofficial patches, same thing on Steam some singleplayer titles.
I use emulation if i need to play console exclusive, currently using Xenia. So highest i can go is Xbox 360 (or Ps3) for now i guess.
I mean technically you can sorta go "current gen" with the switch.
@@GeorgeN-ATXthe switch I consider to be last gen
@@GeorgeN-ATX my guy, the switch is mid-range 2016 tablet hardware. It desperately needs a new console to retire it.
Compare price to performance ps5 wins
Sure, but for $200 - $300 extra you can get better than ps5 performance with every benefit of a pc
Not really I wish ps5 here are 700 aud there is no way you can get better with a extra 300aud
@@damagedjefff I prefer a pc any time there is no way a console will ever beat a Pc
I just went on PCPartPicker and set up a PC build with a 5600, RX 6600, 16GB of RAM, and a 1Tb NVME SSD. That should handily outperform a PS5 and have all of the features of a PC, and it was $600, but I could’ve totally gone down to $500 if I hadn’t overspeced and still beaten the PS5.
Compare utility and features and even a 10 year old pc beats a ps5
Can u make a video on the 300 build
You also do not need to rebuy games across different generations of console
You don't have a Xbox do you? They even went as far as you don't need to buy it again on PC.
as someone who uses both, I'm leaning consoles. PC is just for the stuff I can't get on PS5
Yea, I agree
And vice versa
Basically paying hundreds for a console to play that specific game
Can yall leave a link to that pc in my response?!?
Its custom built
70,000 games; ten of which are worth playing.
I have both new consoles and just started thinking about building a pc.
Literally just today lol
I totally buy games on not steam lol
Buy a pc & then install pirated games 😁
yk that pirated games are illegal, right? (Ik this because of "law by Mike")( and don't tell me I don't know sh!t)
@@unknown34510 lol 😂
Them after seeing the recommended setting for new forza motorsport😅
i love paying 50$ to play online 😊😊😊
PC gaming is about the same as a console, but the biggest issue is that a PC is way too complicated. A console runs good straight out of the box and you don't need to know what a driver or BIOS is or how to update them.
Yeah the only problem is the most PC gamers are like Dream stans when someone just MENTIONS that they play on a Console (I literally have a fight with a dude who claims that no one plays Minecraft Bedrock and i just said you literally can play it on Mobile, Ps4/5, Xbox and Nintendo Switch, He said a Pc takes up less space than a Ps5 lmao)
@@Cake2019_6 if they have a decent PC.
I have a terrible one and I side with console players most of the time (half because I'm more of a console player, the other half is because that PC gamer is just stupid)
@@YOUR_NARRATOR975 Yeah i mean most people have an Tv you just need to connect the Wires and turn the Console on
It literally takes 10 minutes to learn and do either of those things and is a massive positive over a console due to the features it allows.
Learning that also provides valuable knowledge for any job that requires the use of a pc.
These are really simple things you can learn just by watching a short CZcams video or take to your motherboards manual
The current consoles are near impossible to beat price to performance if just for gaming. I guess you could match their price is you wanted to play at 720 upscaled to 1080p.
Because of how they are designed and how devs can optimize for them you would need a R5 7600 and RX 6800 to keep up with them. Now the previous generation had terrible hardware and nearly anything could match them.
But for 1440p 60fps with high settings in current gen only games you can't do that with a $500 PC.
Not true rx 6800 is 16tflops wich is way more than series x 12tflops ps5 10tflops and
series s 4tflops closest gpu to match to ps5 is rx 6700 with 11 tflops,closest gpu to match series x is 6700 xt 13tflops and closest to series s is rx 6500 xt 5 tflops
@@anonymous16472 yes but you will have to use CPU or GPU decompression to bypass PC not having a dedicated io component to decompress and stream assets from the SSD to the shared memory. Will also have to use some brute force to make up for the lack of optimization. All ps5s have the same hardware so it's easier to optimize around. PC has a huge range of hardware. While the 6700 does match up best to the consoles when looking at raw specs alone, the optimization and better designed hardware in it's APU more than makes up for that.
You will not be running current gen only games at 1440p/4k at 60fps/30fps on equal hardware (3700x and 6700) on PC. Consoles typically punch above their weight. That's why you keep up with them you need to brute force and have better specs then they have. Now with the previous gen consoles anything could brute force past their hardware that was weak even in 2013 when it launched. Current consoles are actually very well designed for gaming and moving massive amounts of assets quickly.
consoles may be great price to performance but it seems like people just want to move to pc. i’m a pc flipper and i keep getting messages of people wanting to trade their ps5 or xbox series s for a pc
@@someguywithmtndew5691 yeah I much prefer PC myself. I get why people would rather have one. And in a few years they will catch up to the consoles in price to performance again. It's just the first time in a long time that consoles where so good when they launched. The PS4/XB1 gen was super easy to beat. But the same thing as now pretty much happened when the 360 came out.
@@Sp3cialk304 Fair point that's why consoles today are great but the problem a lot of gamers today wanted freedom and hell not all want to pay games but wanted to try it like Ac games many don't like today so they tend to pick pc and pirate it instead. Pcs are for people who wanted options , consoles are for people who wanted the current best readily
that loop was immaculate
guys if you cant decide, just do both
Okay show me god of war ragnarok or spider-man 2 gameplay from your pc
Emulator
@@Skrillful good luck with that
Spider-man 2 became an ok game right after the first scene, I don't play that game anymore thing got boring af. The thing is just sitting there, might delete it
And gow, I saw the entire gameplay on coryxkenshin's channel I don't need to play it or want it
@@yashp97Sony is literally going to put both games on steam
Ps5: 4k@60 for $500
I'd like to see a PC match that
I'm a PC gamer by the way
4k@120hz*
Yup, well said. I have a ps5 to play my more demanding games. I use my laptop to play older games that are not on ps5.
An rtx 4060 is only £299 get that with a ryzen 5 4000s £34 16gb ram m.2 ssd for cheap like £39 and get around 80 fps in some and mabye more in others
@@simtonicc rtx 4060 is definitely not good in 4k unless your talking about older games
@@Crownerasedthere’s not a single game on console that will run 4k 120.
I can't make sexy Minecraft animations on console
New to pc and my current experience is 70% troubleshooting 30% gaming but that low input delay and high frames are a joy
all fun and games till u gotta get monitor, keyboard, desk pad, mouse, speakers and headphones sooo thats well over 500
You sont really need top tier monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones.
Nobody uses speakers and deskpad is not that important.
Can you explain in another video how the h9 flows air flow works
Bruv this reminded me to update my drivers😅
Have not updated my PC in a while still running the 1080 TI works just fine
The 1080ti is as good as a 2060 or rx 6600xt in lots of games. That's the gret thing about pc gaming, you get a super expensive baller pc and you're set for set for at least 7 years of new releases. The 1080ti is around 6 years old now and should still be able to put up a good fight for a few more years to come with tools like fsr getting better and better
@@donaldhobson9027and my 10 year old ps4 is still allowing me to play warzone 60 fps
@@bangla_saab it would be weird if it wasn't running at 60fps considering you literally have no video option so I don't see how you could fuck your frames. Kind of like how it's impossible to crash a cable car because you have no control
@@donaldhobson9027 i am refeering to the fact he says the 1080ti is 6 years old and i still good but my ps4 is 10 years old and still preforms quite well
@@bangla_saabyes and the person you replied to is pointing out how there’s no video options on a console. With all the mods and options on pc it’s more impressive for a 6-7 year old gpu to hold its own against newer AAA titles than a console with a limited amount of games that allow for the type of video settings you get on pc. It’s nice the console is still doing good but that’s to be expected since consoles are supposed to last long. PC parts as well but since there’s more customization there’s always new and better versions of old hardware.
And you can also do other works like Video Editing, Photo editing, etc. and there are some games which are not available in console such as Valorant or league of legends, Dota 2.
I have both honestly I gotta stop buying stuff and fixing it and start selling some stuff my room is getting out of hand😂😂 wires everywhere controllers, games, then my coffee table is a mess from all the tools I need for mirco soldering 😂
That Vegeta reminds me, Akira Toriyama died a week ago :') RIP
Pretty much the 1990s was the main time when some consoles were just as powerful as much more expensive high end PCs of the time.
When I heard $300,
me:do you sell this boi.
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No, do you actually sell
Plus you can do content creation, photo shop , machine learning, ai (if a good pc)
Bro put us in a loop
I miss PC retail with no DRM
For a quick and easy budget? Console
For a long term, high end gaming experience with extreme customization and modifications? PC
You could get a pc that's like the ps5 for like the same price
My whole set up not including the desk was around $900 around $780 for the pc itself and the rest for accessories.
Something to know about the series is a good amount of s/x enchanced games are in 30 on s
you forgot all the hackers and modders on pc in public matches/lobbies
They had us in the first half ngl
I love both for different reasons, I like pc because of the customization and I like console because you can hop on and play split screen with friends
Me over here not worrying about any drivers at all because im on linux
I have all the consoles & PC because I don’t see any reason to limit myself to one form of enjoyment.
Can we agree that both have their good and bad sides
Never
@@JessicaRodriguez-gi2cl pcs have better graphics card, more fps, etc.
Consoles have exclusives, can be played from your living room tv, can be brought to hotels, etc.
So both are good
(Pc may be a bit better, but consoles are more simple)
Both has perks pick what you like
if they added party system support from ps to pc and had better cross play that would be nice
I’ve had my pc for six months and did my first drivers update a week ago 💀