GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Red Dead Redemption 2

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    Before you hit the dislike button, know that nothing bad I have to say about Red Dead Redemption 2 should dissuade you from playing it. It is easily the best open world game I've ever played. That being said, I liked the first game better, and this game has a lot of sins that you can still laugh at even if you hate me for daring to poke fun at this sacred cow.
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  • @Dartigan
    @Dartigan  Před 5 lety +840

    Thumbnail issue is fixed. Not sure why that wasn't working. CZcams is made of clown penis.
    Anyway, while I'm here, let me plug my twitch and Discord channels: Discord discord.gg/dartigan Twitch: www.twitch.tv/dartigan
    Sorry for not answering comments for so long. Planning to correct that no that I'm not as busy at work as I have been.

    • @emergcon
      @emergcon Před 5 lety +25

      Tuberculosis also could be healed. Tuberkulin was developped by Robert Koch in 1890. This game was set 9 Years later. Also: The best treatment for TB was fresh air. So... hm... realisic horse testicals. not so realisitc on history. saaad.

    • @garrettwachendorfer8645
      @garrettwachendorfer8645 Před 5 lety +7

      demonetized

    • @Elektrikman143
      @Elektrikman143 Před 5 lety +37

      @@emergcon actually the best treatment is fresh air & rest/relaxing and we all know that's not possible with their kind of life so it's still realistic sorry to say

    • @thechronic__9289
      @thechronic__9289 Před 5 lety +2

      Dartigan, I will admit I haven’t watched it yet, but please tell me you don’t sin the story, it’s a Opinion.

    • @thechronic__9289
      @thechronic__9289 Před 5 lety +6

      For real thought, I think this game should win game of the year

  • @derekthespatula9346
    @derekthespatula9346 Před 4 lety +3433

    "Everything wrong with red dead 2"
    *micah*
    "Thank you for watching"

  • @John9FiveLP
    @John9FiveLP Před 5 lety +6622

    Dutch's actions being irrational isn't really a game sin. It's exactly what they are meant to be.

    • @alexdavn6093
      @alexdavn6093 Před 5 lety +105

      not from the start, he develops nicely later, as mentioned in the video.

    • @lenyo6371
      @lenyo6371 Před 5 lety +367

      Yes from the start. Dutch started losing his shit in the beginning of the game after the boat heist, and going by some dialogue long before that. Dutch van der Linde was a huge hypocrite, as Milton rightly pointed out when he came to camp. We see the story through Arthur's POV, and he sees Dutch almost as a father figure who he followed with some occasional grumbling, but without much questioning. I think Dutch was was nothing more than a common robber and cutthroat who was good at presenting himself and making speeches, however much he might have thought of himself as a modern Robin Hood, and his insanity and hypocrisy is really reflective of the story and themes of the game overall. Micah was already whispering in his ear at this point, too, as some dialogue suggests the boat heist was his idea all along.

    • @RealJesh
      @RealJesh Před 5 lety +4

      exactly

    • @khaoss4024
      @khaoss4024 Před 5 lety +6

      Elveslayer it’s a sin to do stupid things as it makes no sense

    • @amsbeats841
      @amsbeats841 Před 5 lety +21

      Literally almost all of these aren't.

  • @justjackmarstonwithinternet
    @justjackmarstonwithinternet Před 2 lety +507

    This guy is the perfect interpretation of Cinema sins sinning the most random things

    • @ricardofigueiredo3437
      @ricardofigueiredo3437 Před 2 lety +35

      exactly the first sin he gave was because it looked like a random ass game? like what

    • @mmdcccvii4847
      @mmdcccvii4847 Před rokem +29

      @@ricardofigueiredo3437 cuz he is joking around. Like whats so hard to understand about it. He makes things up and is complaining about random ass things cuz its supposed to be taken with humor which you obv dont have.

    • @ricardofigueiredo3437
      @ricardofigueiredo3437 Před rokem +11

      @@mmdcccvii4847 he’s not joking he does this with almost all his videos since a long time buddy

    • @mmdcccvii4847
      @mmdcccvii4847 Před rokem +2

      @@ricardofigueiredo3437 bro.... so you take family guy serious aswell? Cuz they are offenisv every Episode?

    • @ricardofigueiredo3437
      @ricardofigueiredo3437 Před rokem +8

      @@mmdcccvii4847 huh? how is that even a comparison i never said this video was offensive 💀

  • @Bmuenks31
    @Bmuenks31 Před 3 lety +811

    Fun fact: Sadie is not wanted because she is not known by the Feds

    • @theyellowmeteor
      @theyellowmeteor Před 3 lety +29

      A woman outlaw? Get outta here! Have some alcohol and cocaine to bolster your immune system. Don't forget to smoke at least a pack a day too, 'cause it helps prevent cancer.

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Před 3 lety +5

      Charles too?

    • @Bmuenks31
      @Bmuenks31 Před 3 lety +6

      @@leonpaelinck he is wanted I think

    • @Mr.Capitalism
      @Mr.Capitalism Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah an outlaw unwanted

    • @Bmuenks31
      @Bmuenks31 Před 2 lety +18

      @@gamingandrewbro8815 no in the first game they come after John to kill him they didn't know Sadie was part of the gang

  • @sarah98917
    @sarah98917 Před 5 lety +2295

    I'm not sure why getting scars from a wolf is lame.

    • @noahchmielewski1347
      @noahchmielewski1347 Před 4 lety +181

      And also they’re clearly scratches it’s impossible to get that with a knife unless you are very much trying and making sure that each line is perfectly spaced it’s not a mystery he clearly got attacked by an animal I figured that in the first game And had a pretty much confirmed what I found out that he lived on a farm

    • @codeword0203
      @codeword0203 Před 4 lety +14

      @@noahchmielewski1347 Wolves can't stratch like that though

    • @Krosstic
      @Krosstic Před 4 lety +69

      Codeword 0 Yes, yes they can

    • @codeword0203
      @codeword0203 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Krosstic Wolves are stronger in bite then stratch

    • @nobodycaresanymore188
      @nobodycaresanymore188 Před 4 lety +96

      @@codeword0203 but they can definitely scratch likely that

  • @ceartais65
    @ceartais65 Před 3 lety +1075

    In rdr 1 when attacked by a wolf John says “where do you think I got these scars” so we actually already knew

    • @kinorris1709
      @kinorris1709 Před 2 lety +88

      For someone who repeatedly said "I prefer Red Dead Redemption 1", both in the video and the deacription, he sure seems to forget a few details RDR1 eludes to/get them wrong.
      On the topic of RDR1: If they were to remake RDR1, they could keep it's story mostly the same and use the remake label to let them add in details about the other surviving/dead gang members. John could and should remember Hosea, Arthur and Micah. They had some of the biggest impacts on the gang.

    • @lonewolf3138
      @lonewolf3138 Před 2 lety +12

      @@kinorris1709 I love how you mention Micah. Nobody mentions him cuz they hate him and so do i but I honestly think Micah should 100% be included as he made the gang change

    • @blake2521
      @blake2521 Před 2 lety +11

      @@kinorris1709 No. I don’t want a scene where John is like
      I remember Arthur and hosea. People who died years ago and aren’t relevant to this situation. John’s his own man. Least they could do is just include their graves. That’s the best reference

    • @markcook3913
      @markcook3913 Před 2 lety +6

      @@blake2521 thats not true. The scene where he first meets javier in rdr1. He says "then you and dutch went crazy, and loyalty didn't mean so much"... they could add micahs name there. "Then you dutch and micah went crazy"

    • @blake2521
      @blake2521 Před 2 lety +6

      @@markcook3913 It is true. Micah is not relevant to Rdr1. Nobody from rdr2 needs to be mentioned in a rdr1 remake. Besides Micah didn’t go crazy. He was crazy since Dutch met him

  • @Severedevere
    @Severedevere Před 2 lety +183

    *game is too realistic*
    Gets a sin
    *game isn’t realistic enough*
    Gets a sin

    • @Leo007619
      @Leo007619 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Correct. Because the game is kind of trash

    • @summerysteam96
      @summerysteam96 Před 6 měsíci +10

      ​@@Leo007619 its not the game, its the player

    • @JK_of_Today
      @JK_of_Today Před 5 měsíci +7

      ⁠@@summerysteam96 “Its not the game, it’s the player.” 😂 You sound like the developers trying to defend Starfield reviews.

    • @summerysteam96
      @summerysteam96 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@JK_of_Today 😂

    • @justice_of_Youtube
      @justice_of_Youtube Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Leo007619you mean trashier than you?

  • @arthur8095
    @arthur8095 Před 3 lety +195

    Sin 24 is wrong, you can see Mary Beth feeding and giving water to Kieran when Dutch isn't looking

  • @Stormsmustfade
    @Stormsmustfade Před 5 lety +3579

    How dare you sin the horse dying scene in the last mission. That made even the strongest men cry.

    • @yoshi2oo885
      @yoshi2oo885 Před 4 lety +101

      Stormsmustfade so true bro i even spent over 2k things worth of stuffs for him that’s how much i loved him😔

    • @STD.Rona1
      @STD.Rona1 Před 4 lety +126

      if u done the missions with hamish the veteran and you took buell it’s even worse

    • @STD.Rona1
      @STD.Rona1 Před 4 lety +15

      AdamWayneone yeah i know but there’s no point because when you switch to john all your horses get removed

    • @zephyr_x45
      @zephyr_x45 Před 4 lety +17

      I loved my horse too much

    • @charlescheckerson6491
      @charlescheckerson6491 Před 4 lety +18

      He was a good boah

  • @Havaspierre
    @Havaspierre Před 4 lety +1283

    9:04 "That is Ross' only line in the game."
    Not true, Ross actually shouts "This is Agent Ross of the Pinkerton Agency" in the final mission and some other dialogue

    • @monokudos
      @monokudos Před 4 lety +21

      *final mission for arthur/final mission of chapter 6

    • @andreakosick4273
      @andreakosick4273 Před 4 lety +71

      he also is shouting to his men while you run through the caves, you can see if you have subtitles on

    • @lil_biscuit
      @lil_biscuit Před 4 lety +11

      I think he meant lines in a cutscene/important in game moment

    • @scottcampbell1165
      @scottcampbell1165 Před 3 lety +8

      @@lil_biscuit the lines he siad there are more important than the one he said to jack. Then lines clearly state he is in charge of the pinkertons now.

    • @princessarisarix9279
      @princessarisarix9279 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly. He completely forgot about it.

  • @captaintre44
    @captaintre44 Před 3 lety +143

    Sadie not being hunted by John has 2 explanations.
    From a developer perspective, she wasn’t designed
    From a lore standpoint. She was a nobody, the Pinkerton had information on the gang during black water. Sadie wasn’t a member, she also wasn’t a gun like John, Arthur, or javier. You can use this same reasoning on Tilly Jackson and the 2 other females in the gang.

    • @MINUANOGAMING
      @MINUANOGAMING Před rokem +3

      Micah was feeding them info on the gang since after Guarma. Sadie was an active member of the gang by that point.
      Her and Charles not being hunted during the first game makes no sense.

    • @lumbagolosis1899
      @lumbagolosis1899 Před rokem +8

      @@MINUANOGAMING Because they were long gone and had zero leads on where they were unlike John, Bill, Javier, and Dutch who were all still in the same area.

    • @peggygreenwood2676
      @peggygreenwood2676 Před rokem +2

      They also thought John was dead after Blackwater heist so they were not hunting him for a short period

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 Před rokem +2

      ​​@@MINUANOGAMING she was also a well known bounty hunter at the end of the epilogue. Maybe she was working for the feds by the time of rdr1. She did have a certain hatred of gangs.

    • @robertwye9463
      @robertwye9463 Před rokem +1

      ​@@lumbagolosis1899 Sadie was most likely in Africa and Charles was in Canada so yeah no leads and not worth the effort

  • @mixedlatte2879
    @mixedlatte2879 Před rokem +72

    When I see this video, I'm reminded of how wonderfully this game was made because the person apparently missed dialog in cutscenes that explain half the sins in this video.

    • @v0rtexbeater
      @v0rtexbeater Před 7 měsíci +6

      When I watch these videos, I'm reminded of how stupid the average gamer is because no one can tell that this is purposefully pedantic and nitpicky for comedy, yet some people cannot stand seeing their favorite games get any amount of criticism so they take them way too seriously.

    • @mixedlatte2879
      @mixedlatte2879 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@v0rtexbeater You're entitled to your viewpoint, man; There's a distinction between well-crafted criticism and simply taking anything badly because you didn't read the narrative. He didn't pay attention to half of these, and the writing explained it while also speaking for me. I never stated that this was my favorite game or that it was perfect. While the criticisms of the game play are entirely valid and understandable, it is by no means flawless. All I'm getting at is that's not satire or comedy making shit up, and having a bad opinion for his own faults.

    • @MrTrollland
      @MrTrollland Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@v0rtexbeatercan u explain where the comedy is?

  • @matthew_burkhart
    @matthew_burkhart Před 5 lety +953

    Sin 45: Sadie does have a reason to join the gang. She wants to get revenge on the O'Driscolls for killing her husband.

    • @jackdowdall7202
      @jackdowdall7202 Před 5 lety +135

      And on top of that, she says later that her normal life is over and that she wouldn't wanna go back to one, so she stays with the gang

    • @johnx4133
      @johnx4133 Před 5 lety +8

      but the gang hates revenge

    • @yaboiitito
      @yaboiitito Před 5 lety +8

      Yes they have it but that doesn't stop them from getting theirs

    • @olly6857
      @olly6857 Před 4 lety +2

      Dhurba International that’s true but when sadie joins the gang they are going after the O’Driscolls anyway

    • @yarp1246
      @yarp1246 Před 4 lety +7

      Arthur mentions that Dutch said revenge is a fool's game, but he was also working towards taking revenge against Colm O'Driscoll...

  • @shadowray4770
    @shadowray4770 Před 4 lety +816

    22:31
    Micah's pointing out that there's a rat makes perfect sense. Sooner or later, someone was going to figure out that there was a rat, and report it to Dutch. Since Micah was the one who reported it, it pretty much eliminates him as a suspect in Dutch's eyes, for the reason of "Who would rat themselves out?" Micah also now has the ability to point fingers at anyone and accuse them of being a snitch, and Dutch will find his word to be credible since Micah is the one who told him about the snitch in the first place. It's very advanced reverse psychology.

    • @aredhanush2300
      @aredhanush2300 Před 4 lety +7

      Thank You Kind Sir

    • @billyhenerson2871
      @billyhenerson2871 Před 3 lety +35

      That's exactly what I thought was happening too. I don't know why so many people think it's a dumb move, when it's actually pretty genius and manipulative.

    • @rymcn2250
      @rymcn2250 Před 3 lety +5

      There’s also a theory that Milton said that to cause trouble in the gang. That he lied to tear it apart

    • @nicholaskinkaid
      @nicholaskinkaid Před 3 lety +9

      @@billyhenerson2871 Ya'll do realize that because Micah made that accusation that Arthur *immediately* became suspicious of him right? It's just Arthur couldn't act on it because the game didn't want *us* to find out yet.
      And, ironic, was when we're first introduced to the characters at the start of the game; I was IMMEDIATELY suspicious of Micah. I knew he was going to fuck everything up somehow. And no, I didn't play the first game so my only knowledge of it was extremely vague. I knew the main character dies in a final shootout with the law then his son avenges (or I guess also redeems) him. That's it. I got RDR2 because it was on sale. And I knew it was a prequel, so I had no problem playing it before the first one.
      Going into it like this leads to some great discoveries. It took quite a while for me to realize who john was. I initially just thought he was nothing special compared to anyone else in the group. And when I played Dominos with Abigail I thought to myself 'she's really cute, but man is she a bitch'.
      The point of saying all that is that I thought the game was really great overall but there were quite a few moments where the dialog and interactions felt extremely scripted, rather than authentic.
      One of the best examples is in the first part of the epilogue when john goes to the rival families farm, and after you fist fight that one douche, you are left with the "choice" to shoot him or not. But if you do nothing for like 30 seconds to a minute, john shoots him anyhow.

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Před 3 lety +1

      So he does the fart trick

  • @volcanic3761
    @volcanic3761 Před 3 lety +219

    Sins not learning what happened in Blackwater
    Sins learning how John got his scars

    • @chineseobama6043
      @chineseobama6043 Před 3 lety +31

      I know right? Like he complains about wanting to know the biggest mystery of the game they set up since the first game but then when the scars are revealed it's too much

    • @layle0692
      @layle0692 Před 3 lety +12

      It's two complete different sins.
      Learning how John got his scar is not important to the story. Dartigan just says that it ruins the mystery of it by being so cliché. A fucking wolf scar. Wow, how original. I would also have liked it remained a mystery.
      Blackwater, however, is essential to the plot. It is the main reason the whole gang needed to get away as for being criminal. Seeing everything Arthur and the crew does to the entire country in the whole game, it is justified wanting to know what happened back there, that didn't already happened after.
      Knowing you commit all the crime possible in a map that isn't even that big, while never getting caught make me say: "Ok. So why did they need to leave Blackwater if they can get away with being enemy of the country ?" Considering that the said-place isn't bigger than the biggest city in RDR2.
      On is not important to the plot and is told. The other is essential for the story and the coherence but isn't explained.

    • @gamingandrewbro8815
      @gamingandrewbro8815 Před 3 lety +1

      @@chineseobama6043 because its lame and his scars aren't metion in every mission.

    • @benoitboelen9952
      @benoitboelen9952 Před rokem

      @@layle0692 ^^^ what Chandler Burse said. And also the "not so big map" is massive. Keep in mind its a game, but if you line the map up on a map of the US, it represents about a third of the entirety. So a massive map. And you could also sin a game like GTA for giving you 3 stars for robbing a store, and also 3 for killing a cop. You expect RDR2 to punish you for killing loads of people, or committing massive crimes - but what punishment? If you rob a train and kill everyone on board, you get a massive bounty. Perhaps they should just respawn you once you kill 10 people with a message on screen saying "don't harm civilians". Clown 🤡

    • @mfknclown644
      @mfknclown644 Před rokem +1

      @@gamingandrewbro8815 getting scars from a wolf is lame? wolves that can weigh up to 180? 400 pounds of pressure per square inch bite? okay bro you're just hating just to hate at this point

  • @billyhenerson2871
    @billyhenerson2871 Před 3 lety +52

    I actually think getting attacked by wolves is a pretty good explanation as to how John got his scars. Realistically, that makes a lot of sense, and would still be a pretty badass story to tell. If someone in real life got scars from a wolf, I would think that's badass.

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +8

      John actually mentions once whilst fighting wolves, he said, “how do you think I got my scars”. Which means they literally just used the Rdr1 version.

  • @sebastianw.6637
    @sebastianw.6637 Před 5 lety +2040

    Wow, a 1:1 like to dislike ratio. Never seen that before

    • @andrecpg8959
      @andrecpg8959 Před 5 lety +90

      I've only seen it on PewDiePie's video meant for it, this is fucking hilarious.

    • @aiber3303
      @aiber3303 Před 5 lety +27

      And it still is to this day!

    • @thedriver5462
      @thedriver5462 Před 5 lety +3

      Not anymore, I liked it lol

    • @thewanderingeuropean3522
      @thewanderingeuropean3522 Před 5 lety +69

      because RDR fans are salty

    • @stackertheeod7566
      @stackertheeod7566 Před 5 lety +88

      Righter Side Of Things no it’s because RDR fans are calling him out on his bullshit

  • @NewCaliforniaRepublicTrooper

    His name was Kieran Duffy not Kirean O'Driscoll.

  • @cfcfanno1
    @cfcfanno1 Před rokem +59

    The fact that you did not remove a magnitude of sins for the mission when the whole gang is riding down the path to the Braithewait manor is unforgivable. The scene/music/feeling is one of my favorite moments in the game.

    • @seva7500
      @seva7500 Před rokem

      @@MegasuperqIt’s been so long since I last played chapter 3. What
      Missions are ass?

    • @seva7500
      @seva7500 Před rokem

      @@Megasuperq I only remember having to ride a woman’s suffrage wagon once. For the Grays and Braithwaites love story. Is there another side mission?

    • @UnknownPerson-2004
      @UnknownPerson-2004 Před 11 měsíci

      This entire video is a joke

  • @wavy_pdp
    @wavy_pdp Před 3 lety +86

    14:22 Yeah, he could, but isn't Javier a wanted man in Mexico?

    • @ogorkiszony_
      @ogorkiszony_ Před 3 lety +6

      He is wanted in Mexico and reward is 1000 dollars, you can find his bounty poster in Shady Belle

    • @MrDalisclock
      @MrDalisclock Před 3 lety +2

      He is but they're all wanted in the US as well. And Dutch does them no favors with his idiotic "plans"

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před 3 lety

      He alongside the gang, is wanted over many territories that Dutch still keeps insisting on going back to, by that logic they could've gone to Mexico.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 Před 3 lety +1

      ​@Chandler Burse Mexico hated him more than the US at first, but I doubt he's more wanted in Mexico than in the states after committing multiple massacres over 3 towns with the gang. They could go undercover and lay low in Mexico because I doubt they'd come after him anymore than the Pinkertons did in America.

  • @aydenarsenault1786
    @aydenarsenault1786 Před 4 lety +2354

    “They should tell us what happened in black water”
    Not even 30 seconds later
    “Telling is what happened with johns face ruins the mystery”

    • @crowhogan6854
      @crowhogan6854 Před 4 lety +129

      Yeah, but RDR 1 didn't mention John's scar every mission. This game often talks about how everything went wrong in Blackwater but it never bothers to explain what the hell did happen.

    • @Darknorthxl
      @Darknorthxl Před 4 lety +51

      Pruk Chaweekulrath was gonna say the same, if you actually look and read things it tells you lol

    • @Chrisadeth
      @Chrisadeth Před 4 lety +101

      @@tonmai2541 also, when it comes to what really happened on that ferry, Arthur Morgan is just as in the dark as the rest of us. So not telling about blackwater immediately is kinda the point.

    • @hal560
      @hal560 Před 4 lety +26

      Crow Hogan it’s discussed at least once, but it’s limited because Arthur himself isn’t exactly sure. He mentions “Dutch killed a girl in a bad way...” to (I think) Charles. And Agent Milton too mentions that a young woman had her head blown apart by Dutch.

    • @natedog7255
      @natedog7255 Před 4 lety +1

      Best part is the Blackwater incident happened in red dead redemption 1

  • @Cibernetize
    @Cibernetize Před 4 lety +792

    I replayed the first Red Dead Redemption recently. John never said that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. He just says that it's a robbery.

    • @zacharyl657bananas7
      @zacharyl657bananas7 Před 3 lety +94

      And even if it was a bank, it could be the robbery in Saint Denis. That’s about when everyone started losing doubt.

    • @Cibernetize
      @Cibernetize Před 3 lety +55

      @@zacharyl657bananas7 John never specified that it was a bank robbery that made him leave the gang. All he told Landon Ricketts was that "it was a robbery gone wrong."

    • @zacharyl657bananas7
      @zacharyl657bananas7 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Cibernetize yeah that’s what I mean though

    • @VuokkoV
      @VuokkoV Před 3 lety +14

      I've always thought he meant the trainrobbery, where he got shot

    • @jerichosamurai
      @jerichosamurai Před 2 lety +2

      @@VuokkoV Makes most sense to me.

  • @sliverspoon195
    @sliverspoon195 Před 3 lety +41

    19:40 "the cave is a straight line"
    maps shows multiple paths
    this guy: im gonna pretend i didnt see that

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 Před 3 lety +3

      But Arthur and Dutch could still go to the ladder even without her.

  • @cjwood9936
    @cjwood9936 Před 3 lety +12

    Not knowing what happened in black water is what makes that part of the games story great because it’s up to the player on how you want to interpret the black water massacre

  • @kingsfoil5844
    @kingsfoil5844 Před 4 lety +2083

    So, you're complaining about the mystery being taken out of how John got his scars ruins it but you're saying we should know what happened with Blackwater? Okay.

    • @FreyR_Kunn
      @FreyR_Kunn Před 4 lety +107

      It’s because John’s scars aren’t mentioned in nearly every mission. Blackwater is mention so many times and even other characters don’t know what happened.

    • @glya_tv
      @glya_tv Před 4 lety +149

      FreyR Kunn They don’t have to mention John’s scars because you literally see them every time you play the game.

    • @dknon853
      @dknon853 Před 4 lety +67

      FreyR Kunn we don’t really need to know what happened in black water, all we need to know is it went wrong

    • @antwanscott3113
      @antwanscott3113 Před 4 lety +6

      Yea this dude trash

    • @demonjmh
      @demonjmh Před 4 lety +35

      @@FreyR_Kunn that's because that's life you don't get explanations for everything

  • @Fulllife3.2
    @Fulllife3.2 Před 5 lety +502

    8:14 Literally a few seconds later, Arthur *ASKS THE SAME GOD DAMNED THING* and she says that John is useless.
    I never comment about fails in a sin video...But this was just ridiculous.

    • @xLanzer
      @xLanzer Před 4 lety +5

      Exactly

    • @user-pw3ce5ql2m
      @user-pw3ce5ql2m Před 4 lety +4

      Full Life 3 then try to explain the rest
      rdr 2 story sucks

    • @MrCarpelan
      @MrCarpelan Před 4 lety +16

      @@user-pw3ce5ql2m That is, in fact, objectively wrong.

    • @user-pw3ce5ql2m
      @user-pw3ce5ql2m Před 4 lety +3

      Robbert Kööp is not about slow, even rdr1 story is better than 2 in my opinion

    • @rocitelon2600
      @rocitelon2600 Před 4 lety +10

      @@user-pw3ce5ql2m your opinion is just wrong

  • @bobbyboy200
    @bobbyboy200 Před 3 lety +38

    Me: **finds a scroll saying everything that's wrong with red dead 2**
    Also me: *there's nothing here*

    • @10yearsinthejoint363
      @10yearsinthejoint363 Před 3 lety +3

      Just because Story is good isn't going to make it flawless, Story and the graphics are great everything was Mediocre at best

    • @bobbyboy200
      @bobbyboy200 Před 3 lety +3

      @@10yearsinthejoint363 I think it’s impeccable

    • @jokerhaha5123
      @jokerhaha5123 Před 2 lety +1

      The story was the absolute worst thing I’ve ever had to experience in a video game. The free roam was fun for a while, but fuck those boring ass missions that barely allow you to use the controller

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +1

      @@jokerhaha5123 What game are you playing lol? You 100% have not played this game before in your life. I have never met anybody ever, that has said that the games story is bad. Also what do you mean by boring mission that don’t allow use of the controller? Every mission has stuff such as shootouts and something to do, maybe skip the cutscenes if you hate it that much? That’s every story game ever, you know, a fucking story, so a lot of cutscenes.

    • @jokerhaha5123
      @jokerhaha5123 Před rokem

      @@PastPositive try typing that again without crying. You rdr2 fanboys are the most pathetic people in the gaming community. Yes some missions have shootouts, even those missions will strip you of certain guns and ammunition, tell you exactly where to go and when to shoot or mission failed. Hold x to follow, or ride at a snail’s pace while some boring ass dialogue takes place. I got so tired of the lack of agency by the Tahiti missions that I just started purposely failing every mission. The game still progresses to the end even when you fail every single mission and nothing changes in the story because it’s just a 30 hour movie that happens regardless of player input. The story is also boring as hell because we already knew what happened before the game was released.

  • @joshjohnson6891
    @joshjohnson6891 Před rokem +12

    The death of the horse was emotionally and more than just a "pre-ordered horse" if you stayed with the horse since the beginning, it's like losing a part of your family. Hell I finished the Hamish side missions with Arthur where he let's you keep Beull and even that tugged at my heart when it was Buell that died, in that moment it would be Arthur thanking not only the horse but also Hamish.

  • @jawonsh1592
    @jawonsh1592 Před 5 lety +2869

    6.4k likes, 6.4k dislikes
    perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

    • @NullaLexInk
      @NullaLexInk Před 5 lety +12

      6,634 likes, 6,649 dislikes as of March 23rd, 2019.

    • @littydittycommittee4644
      @littydittycommittee4644 Před 5 lety +11

      Now it's 6.6k likes, and 6.6k dislikes.

    • @jawonsh1592
      @jawonsh1592 Před 5 lety +55

      @@littydittycommittee4644 I had to dislike the video because he's literally stupid
      He cuts out context and gives the last of the context a sin lol

    • @littydittycommittee4644
      @littydittycommittee4644 Před 5 lety +4

      @@jawonsh1592 true.

    • @fishmasteruniverse
      @fishmasteruniverse Před 5 lety +6

      Now 6.7 k likes and dislike wtf

  • @CodeSiber
    @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +375

    “So what starving, cold and being attacked by wolfs ain’t good enough for you?”
    -John marston

    • @CodeSiber
      @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +7

      Hello Hello I’m pretty sure your messing around right??? I made a reference to the game itself.

    • @CodeSiber
      @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +16

      Hello Hello I just watched the video and made a reference to what he said pretty early in the video
      Now if your here to just talk shit good for you but your just killing time for me so the day can go by faster so please make my day.

    • @CodeSiber
      @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +1

      Hello Hello sin me but what else do people comment on videos for I’m sorry I’m so “different” then the other people that comment.

    • @CodeSiber
      @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +3

      Hello Hello go to 2:49 stupid shit and you’ll see why I said the reference

    • @CodeSiber
      @CodeSiber Před 5 lety +6

      Hello Hello and if you don’t then I think your just some 15 year old that wanted to start beef just because I posted one comment
      (Sorry but I thought the whole point of comments was to have someone ether like them or comment on them.)

  • @OriginalSirSpeaksAlot
    @OriginalSirSpeaksAlot Před 3 lety +9

    I think you missed the point on Ditch killing the old woman and not taking back the gold.
    It was there to symbolize that he didn't kill her because he thought she would betray them. The fact that he didn't take the gold back meant that this killing of his was purely for his satisfaction. If he killed her and then took the gold that would be his motivation, but the fact that he killed her anyway and didn't take the gold bar back was purely because he was officially a psychopath.

  • @larydg
    @larydg Před 3 lety +19

    Come on maaate "what really went down there Dutch" Loooooook at you journal period

    • @RavensSoTired4081
      @RavensSoTired4081 Před 2 lety +1

      He doesn't know how his dumb ass just rushed through the game

  • @Greko-grb
    @Greko-grb Před 4 lety +583

    Half or more of these plot sins are explained in the freaking plot during dialogue and I know you notice them, since you seem to know every little plot detail

    • @Moblinn
      @Moblinn Před 3 lety +2

      ^^^^^^

    • @Moblinn
      @Moblinn Před 3 lety +23

      People have on this game because you actually have to pay attention

    • @terminallumbago6465
      @terminallumbago6465 Před 3 lety +8

      Right! A lot of stuff is explained but you need to be paying very close attention and you will need to do some free-roaming and exploration too.

    • @terminallumbago6465
      @terminallumbago6465 Před 3 lety +12

      Eric Long Right. I personally like that this game does not spoon-feed you information. That's the mark of great writing,

    • @14Ramos14
      @14Ramos14 Před 3 lety +9

      This! During the game John explains to Arthur why he left and he mentions he had a daughter that died and that it was just rough on him and Abigail so they needed to just step away and do something with themselves

  • @rustledentity5511
    @rustledentity5511 Před 5 lety +417

    In fairness to John's facial scars, flavor dialogue in gameplay alludes to John's injury. If you get attacked by wolves then John will occasionally say "How do you think I got these scars!" The fact that the sequel actually acknowledge flavor dialogue of all things, and didn't discard something most players wouldn't hear or remember as non-canon is impressive attention to detail in my opinion.

    • @atlienn2566
      @atlienn2566 Před 5 lety +31

      RustledEntity people want everything laid out in front of them nowadays smh

    • @krimsonk-9478
      @krimsonk-9478 Před 5 lety +7

      I remember this playing RDR. Was happy the made it official

    • @rustledentity5511
      @rustledentity5511 Před 5 lety +13

      @@krimsonk-9478 I was simply alluding to how most game sequels don't remember optional dialogue/scenes. Metal Gear in particular has a host of optional codecs that have highly relevant plot details, and sequels act like those conversations never happened. The fact that Rockstar remembered flavor dialogue in gameplay instead of discarding it is impressive in my opinion.

    • @CouchCit
      @CouchCit Před 5 lety +5

      ...yet they totally forgot about John saying he had a daughter.
      R* games always do this: they show an incredible attention to detail in some areas while completely dropping the ball in others.

    • @crxssliam2608
      @crxssliam2608 Před 5 lety +12

      Deez Nutz 4 years between RDR 2 epilogue and RDR 1, a child can be born and die within that time easily

  • @bumder007
    @bumder007 Před 2 lety +26

    There’s a big difference in pointing out proper gaming flaws and just pointing out things in the game that happens.

    • @TheeJonesss
      @TheeJonesss Před 11 měsíci

      That’s called flaws in writing

  • @dexterjettster3683
    @dexterjettster3683 Před 3 lety +66

    Man I love these 33 minutes of silence

  • @Gillyexp
    @Gillyexp Před 5 lety +320

    Sadie stays with the gang because her house, along everything she owned, burned to a crisp. She has literally nowhere else _to_ go.
    The act Hosea puts on in the bar with the moonshine is so that the Grays don’t recognise Arthur who is doing deputy work for them. He literally explained it when they were riding to the bar.
    This is just my interpretation regarding Bronte’s invitation to the Mayor’s party. I think he did that just to swing his dick around in Dutch’s face about how powerful he is right before he fucks him over. His attitude when you kidnap him right before his death pretty much confirms that for me.
    I’ll actually give that “everything important is in the middle of the book cliche” a pass because it’s literally bookmarked with a big ass piece of paper, signifying that page is actually important. Details, man.
    John getting left behind isn’t that much of a retcon actually. John says to Arthur that Dutch could have stopped him from getting arrested if he wanted to but he just abandoned him. Not the first time in this game either. One was leaving him behind to get arrested at the bank, and then he got left behind to die during the train robbery.

    • @talentleesdorito9771
      @talentleesdorito9771 Před 5 lety +2

      Sadie could leaved when they reached west elizabeth

    • @BestSalva
      @BestSalva Před 5 lety +24

      lo ko why would she do that? She clearly changed, she became a different person, she didn't wanted to start a life again, she liked being an outlaw.

    • @oscarsvahn9026
      @oscarsvahn9026 Před 5 lety +12

      and she basicly has no one to go to if you go to the Cabin in colter were John rests up after being helped down the mountain. Arthur can ask her if she has someone she can go to after they get down from the mountain and she says that she dosen’t.

    • @benparsons4979
      @benparsons4979 Před 5 lety +4

      The point of the video is not picking like this. It's a joke; you don't have to pull it apart

    • @tonybussoli1676
      @tonybussoli1676 Před 5 lety +28

      I fail to see how misinterpreting and having lack of knowledge on game is a joke

  • @Heatwave-lh1ng
    @Heatwave-lh1ng Před 5 lety +1759

    I disagree with about 90 % of the sins.

  • @chineseobama6043
    @chineseobama6043 Před 3 lety +10

    "Show us what happened in Blackwater"
    Complains that they revealed how John got scars while wanting one of the biggest things shrouded in mystery revealed. Plus you can go through the journal and newspapers to make a good enough theory of what happened.

  • @justadude3789
    @justadude3789 Před 3 lety +22

    About the tuberculosis diagnosis, months had passed. In some parts of chapters you will see time skips that say something along the lines of a few weeks later. And the spread can quicken with unhealthy habits. Arthur didn't lead a very safe and healthy life style.

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +7

      TB can develop in as little as 3 weeks, plus Arthur was a smoker and had a terrible lifestyle, it’s actually incredibly realistic that eh got it so fast.

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Před rokem +1

      It developed quickly because he nearly drowned in Guarma. As you know, water is bad for lungs, especially if you're a lung patient.

  • @rodeve8052
    @rodeve8052 Před 4 lety +563

    I’ve played all red dead games (including revolver) I like RDR2 the best out of all. PS Arthur is better character than jhohn

    • @hexhex7734
      @hexhex7734 Před 4 lety +22

      Facts

    • @trashboat2687
      @trashboat2687 Před 4 lety +52

      100% but John is still great

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 Před 4 lety +9

      Eh I'm more partial to Jack. John's looks and personality + Arthur's intelligence.

    • @boygenius538_8
      @boygenius538_8 Před 4 lety +13

      The One Way Road Arthur looked better than John

    • @medhanshsankaran595
      @medhanshsankaran595 Před 4 lety +9

      RDR2 solo, Arthur >>>>>>. But when the games are taking together, John has the larger and better arc.

  • @splendidwolf442
    @splendidwolf442 Před 4 lety +387

    Don’t you just love it when he sins this game because a character says or does something nonsensical or awful, and everyone else around them acknowledges it? Makes perfect sense to me, I mean who ever heard of writing a character to be that way? Absurd!

  • @Xx_Tuberculosis_xX
    @Xx_Tuberculosis_xX Před 2 lety +30

    The reason Abigail asked Arthur to take Jack fishing instead of John is because John is dogshit at fathering a son and doesn’t even think Jack is his child because, as Dutch said,
    “We all had her, but you married her!”

    • @leoneyamada5408
      @leoneyamada5408 Před rokem

      as someone who has only played a bit into this game and not even touched the first... i cant help but feel bad about that entire situation. not knowing if your kid is even yours is pretty damn bad, i doubt they got a test for that type of stuff so he really wont ever truely know if thats even his son or not... as for the women thats pretty nasty... sleeping with the whole gang? EVEN PEARSON THAT FAT FUCK? like i can see dutch as dutch is known for his silver "tongue" but EVERYONE??? most of the gang look like homeless bum cowboys AND THATS WHAT THEY ARE... how you sleeping with the entire vanderlin gang... thats just nasty no matter how you frame it. and then the boy is so young and he has to live with this gang of sexual pervs and not have a real dad... that shit must suck ASS... no wonder he didnt even wanna fish with arthur and went to necklace making alone...

  • @majorwoody666
    @majorwoody666 Před 3 lety +7

    at sin 100 / 18:57
    “how much does god hate these people?” that was perfect lol

  • @gotech618
    @gotech618 Před 5 lety +361

    In description: " It is easily the best open world game I've ever played. ". Also in description: " I liked the first game better. "

    • @NullaLexInk
      @NullaLexInk Před 5 lety +65

      To be fair to him, you can consider something "the best" and still personally like another thing better. Like with music, you can consider one band technically more proficient but still find another one more to your personal liking.

    • @Dunkingsonn
      @Dunkingsonn Před 5 lety +13

      Ergo, he liked the open world but didn't like a lot of the other parts.

    • @femboy_twink
      @femboy_twink Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah? What's wrong with that?
      Having something be the best open world you've played yet doesn't really equate it as your favorite game

    • @looowlayrs9584
      @looowlayrs9584 Před 4 lety

      I get what you mean. He didnt word thos correctly.

    • @Zalwalloo
      @Zalwalloo Před 4 lety

      @@femboy_twink the first game was open world...

  • @jackmarston7644
    @jackmarston7644 Před 4 lety +191

    3:32 Sin 14: it doesn’t matter. There is no battery and the electrical shock is powered only from a swift, downward motion of the plunger. This means the detonator can’t store energy.
    8:08 Sin 35: She HAS asked John to do something with Jack. Many times. It seems like it’s half of the camp dialogue.
    9:05 Sin 40: Yes! Why don’t we try to arrest a famous gunslinger known to defeat tens of well equipped, well trained lawmen. Also to note that he does most of this in less than a fraction of a second, and can cure 15 bullet wounds with a bottle of moonshine?
    12:06 Sin 56: Arthur was working as a deputy for the Grays. Giving the moonshine for free held up the saloon’s income for 30 minutes. The Grays would then find out about the hand playing both sides, but the gang obviously needed to hide that.

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 Před 3 lety +3

      Stop being testy and angry. This game isn't perfect, *just accept that fact ok?*

    • @DysfunctionalJ
      @DysfunctionalJ Před 3 lety +55

      @@wetube6513 or he's just pointing the nit picking and the small sins that make no sense

    • @retron99
      @retron99 Před 2 lety +22

      @@wetube6513 Stop being testy and angry. Dartigan is wrong, just accept that fact ok?

    • @matter_1793
      @matter_1793 Před 2 lety +6

      @@wetube6513 I mean he's Jack, he *will* try to defend the prequel to his father's game with the same name

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +6

      Bro sin 35 makes zero sense at all, he complains and asks why John can’t take Jack fishing, and literally in the same cutscene, Arthur asks that and Abigail explains why.

  • @nigelcarter6895
    @nigelcarter6895 Před 3 lety +19

    No lie, Red Dead Rescue is actually a really good title

    • @hiyves9880
      @hiyves9880 Před rokem +3

      no its not

    • @benoitboelen9952
      @benoitboelen9952 Před rokem +3

      @@hiyves9880 Sounds like a damn disney tv show 😂

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 Před rokem

      @@benoitboelen9952 Red dead rescue rated U for babies.

  • @nicwo
    @nicwo Před rokem +7

    Correction: Agent Ross has two lines, one at the beginning. And one on the very last mission as Arthur. Where he says “Put your guns down! This is Agent Ross with the Pinkerton Detective Agency. Put your guns down.”

    • @cptteacosy6158
      @cptteacosy6158 Před 11 měsíci

      He has alot more than just that one like at the end, dudes screaming all sorts into those caves

    • @nicwo
      @nicwo Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@cptteacosy6158 oh yeah you’re right

    • @cptteacosy6158
      @cptteacosy6158 Před 11 měsíci

      @@nicwo I've not long finished the game again so its fresh in my mind 🤣

  • @samulijj2182
    @samulijj2182 Před 5 lety +71

    21:26 Tuberculosis is a disease that is stuck in the lungs, if the lungs get in a physical contact (in this case Arthur's kidnapping) the disease will start spreading and that's why Arthur had symptoms. One sin off, so that would be 190 sins. Thanks for reading this.

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Před 4 lety +19

      Thank you but most of the sins are bogus anyway lol

    • @lil_biscuit
      @lil_biscuit Před 4 lety

      Gamebred you guys don’t t get it that’s the point he’s meant to nitpick he’s the game version of cinema sins

    • @bmo5852
      @bmo5852 Před 4 lety +4

      I like to think that the trip to Guarma and all the chapter 6 events, put undue stress on Arthur, thus accelerating his condition

    • @sslender07
      @sslender07 Před 4 lety

      Also, he says he got it a few weeks ago. This is untrue. There were multiple parts in the game where it said a few weeks later or even a few months later. They even spent somewhere around 2 months on guarma as stated in chapters 5 and 6

  • @RileyJ3866
    @RileyJ3866 Před 5 lety +304

    26:37 you literally sin Johns reason for leaving the gang again, after sinning it earlier with different wording.
    Trying to pad out the sin count?

    • @looowlayrs9584
      @looowlayrs9584 Před 4 lety +22

      He does this in a lot of videos. Recounting the same "sin" (opinion) as it occurs multiple times in a game but saying its something different... Its not.

    • @ZeldaGeek-qf1eo
      @ZeldaGeek-qf1eo Před 4 lety +2

      He probably just didnt notice. I dont think the sin count is that big of a deal for him. I dont think these should be taken all that seriously.

    • @lukeyeary4161
      @lukeyeary4161 Před 4 lety

      i mean he did leave bc of the bank robbery. the train robbery just sealed the deal

    • @thetinthdoctor
      @thetinthdoctor Před 4 lety +2

      D-did you just reference Th3 Birdman?

    • @RileyJ3866
      @RileyJ3866 Před 4 lety +1

      Craggsy's Creed ya damn right I did

  • @Jeremy-ql1or
    @Jeremy-ql1or Před 3 lety +4

    I think you guys are missing the point about Dutch not being clear about what total amount of money they need. He is basically an addict who needs "one more hit" then he will surely quit forever. Arthur has to come to terms with the fact that he is an enabler and needs to leave.

  • @jamessaibot5681
    @jamessaibot5681 Před 3 lety +5

    My biggest thing is the not enough money to escape. Even as just Arthur I've had enough money to buy golden guns and the Missouri fox trotter and still have enough for the whole gang to go to Tahiti. That's just from story mission robberies.

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Před rokem

      Dutch kept being vague about his "plan" because he never wanted to leave America. He kept wanting to fight his war against change. He lied to everybody, including himself

  • @fatlife1905
    @fatlife1905 Před 4 lety +153

    I actually liked how Marston got his scar. Him being a total badass makes you think there was some over the top crazy story behind it, but there wasnt. Nice surprise

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 Před rokem

      It's dumb. It's insanely pathetic how he gets scratches from a few doggos. 🤣
      It's more hilarious than badass.

    • @zombieslayadylan2923
      @zombieslayadylan2923 Před rokem +12

      @@wetube6513Wolves are way deadlier than typical dogs though.

    • @dirtbox222
      @dirtbox222 Před rokem +6

      @@wetube6513 "from a few doggos" Bro those wolves are seen to be 2 times the size of the other dogs in the game, and even then what if those dogs were pitbulls bro?. I would would think surviving 4 or 5 angry pitbulls is badass, let alone wolves.

    • @jonrice3967
      @jonrice3967 Před rokem +2

      John gets shot in blackwater, then gets lost for days in a snow storm, and then is attacked by wolves, to which he not only fights them off supposedly, but he gets away from, all while injured. that's not over the top and badass to you?

    • @fatlife1905
      @fatlife1905 Před rokem

      @@jonrice3967 I killed thousands of wolves and bears and got shot thousands of times playing him. It’s badass of course, but compared to what he’s doing in the first game.. And since he is a major character I thought it’s kind of random event

  • @AttitudePark
    @AttitudePark Před 5 lety +70

    Dutch wanting to keep John in prison is due to his paranoia about him believing John may be betraying him thanks to Micah convincing him about a rat in the gang. So when he does actions that will bring the law down on them yet yells at Arthur for breaking out John for the same reason, it's not so much a contradiction and more an excuse to not wanting him around

    • @crosvale
      @crosvale Před 5 lety +19

      It's made clear that Dutch is suspicious of John and Abigail during chapter 5. Dutch tells Arthur while walking through the cave on the island that it's odd John was the only person the agents tried to arrest and not outright kill, and how odd Hosea was captured and not Abigail.

    • @AttitudePark
      @AttitudePark Před 5 lety +7

      @@crosvale Exactly man

  • @thedeepfriar745
    @thedeepfriar745 Před 2 lety +5

    I gotta be honest Woody Jackson’s scores for both this game and Red Dead Redemption are absolutely incredible. You can hear the influences of Spaghetti Western composers like Ennio Morricone, but it never becomes an immitation of a Morricone score.

  • @masdunae1368
    @masdunae1368 Před 2 lety +3

    I think the lack of a driving, overarching plot kind of shows that Dutch didn’t have a great plan after all

  • @Blinko7
    @Blinko7 Před 5 lety +524

    Where are the minus 100 sins for the cinematic 'May I?' ride from Van Horn to Shady Belle?
    Disgraceful.

    • @potatoandothers1067
      @potatoandothers1067 Před 5 lety +28

      Or when you get back from that island and it plays 'thats the way it is'

    • @Blinko7
      @Blinko7 Před 5 lety +11

      POTATO AND OTHERS Wrong moment, but yeah and that song

    • @PlaystayShaun
      @PlaystayShaun Před 5 lety +4

      BlinkO may I is played when he dies I’m pretty sure

    • @Blinko7
      @Blinko7 Před 5 lety +6

      SB Productions Yes but also when he returns from Guarma

    • @PlaystayShaun
      @PlaystayShaun Před 5 lety +4

      BlinkO oh ok didn’t realise that

  • @BellaPorsche
    @BellaPorsche Před 5 lety +345

    The only thing that sucks in Red Dead 2 is my horses vision

  • @Resident_Legal
    @Resident_Legal Před 3 lety +43

    The epilogue is my favorite part of the game :) More than half of these sins are garbage.

    • @RavensSoTired4081
      @RavensSoTired4081 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Před 2 lety +2

      Love how you can tell what games this guy prefers. Never seen Sins video for BOTW or TW3 even though they have more sins than most games.

  • @supersaiyansenturion275
    @supersaiyansenturion275 Před 3 lety +5

    As someone who has played a lot of rdr1 i thought rdr2 had a way more thought out plot

  • @user-pr5py8cw9x
    @user-pr5py8cw9x Před 5 lety +339

    5:35 Borrowed? The witness system was also in RDR1, which came out six years BEFORE Mafia 3.

    • @Mark-bc1ej
      @Mark-bc1ej Před 5 lety +8

      This

    • @raziel4435
      @raziel4435 Před 5 lety +63

      “Borrowed” like how this guy borrowed this exact video format from cinema/game sins.

    • @generalkinobi6215
      @generalkinobi6215 Před 5 lety +7

      Take 2 interactive is the parent company of Rockstar games Take 2 made the mafia games. So i don't it is stealing or Barrowing.

    • @allfather6925
      @allfather6925 Před 5 lety +10

      @@raziel4435 uhm excuse me but in how far is using the same format as somebody else a bad thing? That would mean every action movie was ripping off the first action movie ever made.

    • @raziel4435
      @raziel4435 Před 5 lety +1

      Eins Truthahn you clearly missed my point

  • @Chuckvsfrank1232
    @Chuckvsfrank1232 Před 5 lety +285

    *2:30* The whole point of taking the harder path is because they were following a *TRAIL*
    *9:58* She has nowhere to go her husband died and her house destroyed the life she had before was over so it makes more sense to stay with the gang, which was for the best since she got to avenge her husband, which wouldn't have happen had she chosen to go.
    *12:04* Were you even paying attention? They are giving it away as advertising for the Braithwaite's moonshine and they are doing it in the Gray's saloon. If Arthur used his real name then the Gray's would be onto them alot sooner.

    • @Ancienregime8090
      @Ancienregime8090 Před 5 lety +29

      12:40 America was at war with Cuba at the time so it would make sense for someone to hate Cubans

    • @Ancienregime8090
      @Ancienregime8090 Před 5 lety +32

      @Diamond Beau just because the narrator's mistakes were because of his own lack of intelligence. You just wanna justify a reason to hate on this game for some reason and to devalue our valid points.

    • @tbc_castles782
      @tbc_castles782 Před 5 lety +26

      @Diamond Beau Wow dude. I'm not gonna be an asshole but are you seriously gonna comment on everyone elses comments about how their rockstar dick riders if they point out flaws in this video? I'm a HUGE rockstar fan and this game DEFINITELY has its flaws. But the commentator was most certainly nitpicking on a bunch of the points he makes and some even being completely false. I guess that makes me a rockstar dick rider and you're gonna curse and swear and call me toxic anyway though. Even though I admitted the game has its flaws even for being a long time fan of rockstar, and the red dead series.

    • @cmh6550
      @cmh6550 Před 5 lety +23

      @Diamond Beau You are either 12 years old or your brain has not developed properly yet..

    • @ancients7673
      @ancients7673 Před 5 lety +8

      @Diamond Beau you edited this reply and still used threw instead of throw.

  • @vaasmontenegro9299
    @vaasmontenegro9299 Před 3 lety +5

    Missed sin: the train during the train robbery in chapter 1 comes from from the wrong direction

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem

      That’s called a story lol, his own sin makes no sense though because they didn’t come out of the train, they came from behind the train, there’s no one inside of it, they’re on top of it.

    • @adelinogoncalves1180
      @adelinogoncalves1180 Před rokem

      Just like the one in that gta V story mission, typical Rockstar game inconsistency

  • @shinkuakuma1118
    @shinkuakuma1118 Před 9 měsíci +1

    After 5 years i can finally watch this video!
    My friend spoiled the ending to read dead 2 while i was actively installing the gane after buying it day one. So I put it down until about 4 months ago. 574 hours later and I'm crying at the end credits.
    Love your content Dartigan

  • @a-diddy7761
    @a-diddy7761 Před 5 lety +90

    Ross has lines but at the very end of the game after you kill agent milton you can hear him yelling orders

    • @sonicking7871
      @sonicking7871 Před 5 lety +4

      Ya but the fishing line is the only one most people hear. I think.

    • @citizensnips2400
      @citizensnips2400 Před 4 lety

      I’m so glad I found this comment. He definitely has very few lines, but certainly more than one.

  • @MaxRovensky
    @MaxRovensky Před 5 lety +1272

    “NO! MY PREORDER HORSE!”
    OMG I’m dead 😂😂😂

    • @Malidictus
      @Malidictus Před 5 lety +17

      The sincerity and pain this line was delivered with was perfect! :)

    • @Thomas20Smith
      @Thomas20Smith Před 5 lety +1

      Max the deadpan made it all the better 🤣🤣🤣

    • @takuansoho5836
      @takuansoho5836 Před 5 lety +22

      Guess what voice I used to scream "You bastards !"...

    • @troypowers750
      @troypowers750 Před 5 lety

      @@takuansoho5836 Kyle's

    • @MultiFunkyjunk
      @MultiFunkyjunk Před 5 lety +1

      We were all thinkin it if we brought it along haha

  • @blueripper1558
    @blueripper1558 Před 2 lety +4

    I mean to be fair colm getting captured and hanged does kinda seem pointless for the buildup but was in a way realistic and if they didn't the game would drag on longer

  • @slydoesnotknow393
    @slydoesnotknow393 Před 2 lety +2

    I expected this to be 2 seconds with 1 second being the intro and 1 being the end, i instead i got a disgrace.

  • @dripsnake44
    @dripsnake44 Před 4 lety +138

    **sees title**
    *YOU HAVE YEE’D YOUR LAST GODDAMN HAW!*

  • @Crashpng
    @Crashpng Před 5 lety +129

    8:43 im not usually picky but Ross wasn't fishing, he was duck hunting. Sin added

  • @bigmonke2899
    @bigmonke2899 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm German and can't wait for gameomats version.
    Also real OGs don't take Cover in this game, they take their Scofield revolvers out and hit those heads hots before the enemy even can shoot a bullet

  • @derrickvictor8829
    @derrickvictor8829 Před 2 lety +6

    Still my favorite game! Also, the many storylines in the end actually fits with the gang elements of the story. There are many characters, and they all have they’re own perspective and personality. Makes things more real.

  • @Angel_Songbook
    @Angel_Songbook Před 4 lety +81

    “I gave you all I had...I did”
    Yep that pretty much made it my favourite game of all time

  • @daan9211
    @daan9211 Před 4 lety +1037

    Many of the things he says aren't even sins
    One year later Edit: when i commented this i just finished the game so was a little defensive. Now i see the humor and some pretty accurate sins in this video
    Ps: free micah
    Psps: domince, i know they are pretty tough on you just fight them you are strong 💪

    • @NBACoDGaming
      @NBACoDGaming Před 4 lety +146

      @Domince Gasperince II Good joke. It's far from perfect and it has flaws. But the pros far outweigh the cons.

    • @merchbros8729
      @merchbros8729 Před 4 lety +67

      Domince Gasperince II damn you should be a comedian

    • @bruhbruhbruhh3057
      @bruhbruhbruhh3057 Před 4 lety +29

      He Sins the inclusion of Stats and other gameplay mechanics like the game would somehow be better without extra things for the player to do and a progression system that makes you feel like your character is becoming more experienced.

    • @godinsurance4434
      @godinsurance4434 Před 4 lety +34

      I think he’s trying to copy what the guy does in cinemasins. Where most of the sins aren’t really mistakes.

    • @ghost_5918
      @ghost_5918 Před 4 lety +6

      Daan van Honschoten well it’s a version of CinemaSins so...

  • @uncleflagzz
    @uncleflagzz Před 2 lety +4

    I've never seen an equal like-dislike ratio before

  • @wetube6513
    @wetube6513 Před 3 lety +7

    Guys, for all of you who are objecting this guy like a big baby, this video is called "everything wrong with red dead redemption 2". This is not a review of how good or bad the game is but *everything wrong* not everything right. If you really just gonna comment stuff like "NoT tRuE, *insert random objection here* !!!!" Or "YoU'rE wRoNg!!!!!", then just stop watching this video and giving it dislikes because it ain't changing anything except making the RDR2 community look like a bunch of angry babies.
    Just watch "Everything GREAT with red dead redemption 2" then you big testy googoogaagaa babies.

    • @DysfunctionalJ
      @DysfunctionalJ Před 2 lety

      Most of these sins make no sense

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DysfunctionalJ Its just a fucking video made with a simple idea calm down please. You guys are completely OKAY with everything wrong with Life is strange, everything wrong with Until dawn, but not everything wrong with ReD dEaD rEdEmPtIoN 2!?
      Grow up.

    • @edgarallanpwned6666
      @edgarallanpwned6666 Před 2 lety +1

      But the red dead 2 community are a bunch of babies.
      They can't actually acknowledge the flaws with the story whatsoever.

    • @quarantinegamer8269
      @quarantinegamer8269 Před 2 lety +1

      @@edgarallanpwned6666 don't forget them attacking others if they prefer Arthur over John

  • @Boomshteck
    @Boomshteck Před 4 lety +226

    21:33 yeah...actually during those days, doctors did that really often, it was considered sacred and healthy yadda yadda

    • @okbuddy7755
      @okbuddy7755 Před 3 lety +24

      Shit they did this until like up until like the 80's. People would smoke everywhere including restaurants, airport, and the hospital.

    • @gamingandrewbro8815
      @gamingandrewbro8815 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes but even back then they still had common sense

    • @Jupa
      @Jupa Před 3 lety +24

      @@gamingandrewbro8815 Smoking was prescribed as a remedy to coughing and other breathing problems. There was no common sense since they had no scientific basis that smoking harmed you in particular let alone second hand smoke which was considered harmless well into the 20th century.

  • @jostar987
    @jostar987 Před 5 lety +59

    14:24 Javier is really wanted there, and he is a very useful member of the gang

  • @creepystew460
    @creepystew460 Před 3 lety +14

    "Everything wrong with red dead redemption 2"
    Wow look it's empty

    • @mariomorgan6083
      @mariomorgan6083 Před 3 lety +1

      Arthur dies +1 sin

    • @jamessaibot5681
      @jamessaibot5681 Před 3 lety

      @@mariomorgan6083 I agree. Playing as john at the end was lame. I'd rather do a Arthur dies but after the credits roll you can free play as Arthur for completion.

    • @mariomorgan6083
      @mariomorgan6083 Před 3 lety

      @@jamessaibot5681 I mean if you've played rdr1 it isn't that bad playing as John, but yea I miss hearing "you're alright BOAH"

    • @catweird.
      @catweird. Před 3 lety

      @@jamessaibot5681 that's what would be lame, not playing as John.

    • @jamessaibot5681
      @jamessaibot5681 Před 3 lety +1

      @@catweird. eh, I would have loved the first rdr but I just absolutely cant stand John's voice. It grates on my nerves. I'd rather listen to Luke whine about power converters. There is nothing wrong with liking some Arthur, hes a great character too.

  • @Justforvisit
    @Justforvisit Před 2 lety +4

    Come on, the House Building Scene and the soundtrack in it + the ending of the game really should have deserved a few sins off, they're both amazingly beautiful and / or epic moments.

  • @user-en7rr2jt1n
    @user-en7rr2jt1n Před 4 lety +418

    The horse dying in the mission shouldn’t be sinned. It was put there as an emotional roller coaster. Wouldn’t make sense Arthur and John jumping off horses while being chased, the horse dying shows Arthur being at peace and a good person, that’s why he said thank you. I cry like a baby everytime I replay the game. It’s not a sin, it’s just sad.

    • @DeoAsh
      @DeoAsh Před 3 lety +4

      He did say it was a Preorder horse.

    • @user-en7rr2jt1n
      @user-en7rr2jt1n Před 3 lety +6

      @@DeoAsh ok, u can get another one at the stable for free

    • @DeoAsh
      @DeoAsh Před 3 lety +12

      @@user-en7rr2jt1n No. He joked about paying extra in pre order and got that special horse. In this mission the horse u ride dies and u will never get that same horse again.

    • @DeoAsh
      @DeoAsh Před 3 lety +2

      @@oldchannel5795 that's the point. If ur horse dies in that mission then until u start an entirely new game session u won't get that horse back.
      Or if u want to avoid this, maybe u wouldn't buy that pre order horse at all then buy after that mission effectively loosing most of the storyline without that horse

    • @RavensSoTired4081
      @RavensSoTired4081 Před 2 lety +3

      Same here, this guy who makes these videos is a sad little man

  • @cameronkreiss8939
    @cameronkreiss8939 Před 5 lety +266

    He literally complained about having cover....

    • @johnathankarles5396
      @johnathankarles5396 Před 5 lety +38

      He's gonna complain about breathing too

    • @HectoR-Da-Milk-Man
      @HectoR-Da-Milk-Man Před 5 lety +20

      It's because the cover system is shit

    • @landlockedcroat1554
      @landlockedcroat1554 Před 5 lety +5

      yeah cuz cover system is a shitty and boring system made for consoles
      compare it to the flanking and fast paced combat of half life 2 and you'll see how boring rdr2's is

    • @HectoR-Da-Milk-Man
      @HectoR-Da-Milk-Man Před 5 lety

      @@deadchanneldontwatch7347 Yeah

    • @standovaar7638
      @standovaar7638 Před 5 lety +2

      Just like Cinema Sins would

  • @loxleygraham3804
    @loxleygraham3804 Před 3 lety +5

    Shout-out to everyone who got the Oregon trail reference. Classic game!

  • @golden_flame.
    @golden_flame. Před 3 lety +5

    Mfs really don't know this is satire

  • @bruhbruhbruhh3057
    @bruhbruhbruhh3057 Před 4 lety +98

    2:36
    They didn't know where John was and were tracking him from the campsite they found. They also don't know the area they're in so there is no real reason that they'd logically go through the easier path.

  • @manswiberg3757
    @manswiberg3757 Před 5 lety +214

    Some of the things you mention about having to spam x/a to run or the auto aim are things that you can change in the control settings.

    • @trixxsaurus2386
      @trixxsaurus2386 Před 5 lety +19

      You can?
      Fuck

    • @danielm.595
      @danielm.595 Před 5 lety +2

      @@trixxsaurus2386 yep

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +1

      Never understand prowl complaining about button mapping, like bro, there’s a whole setting tab for that. I also quite like the A run button because it’s easy to run with and fits the game Much more.

  • @davewalker9576
    @davewalker9576 Před 2 lety +3

    😭😭😭 my boy said how the hell you got a 2 part epilogue be honest this chapter 7 & 8

  • @ericlin7775
    @ericlin7775 Před 3 lety +1

    27:40
    There's a half-burnt wanted poster of Dutch at Micah's hideout after you rescued him from Strawberry. His intention might be scheming for the right moment to hand Dutch over for the bounty money

  • @Rougeification
    @Rougeification Před 4 lety +234

    28:30 - Am I the only one who remembers that John said "I had a daughter, but she died... BEFORE that, I rode in a gang". In the three years between 1908 (RDR2) and 1911 (RDR1), John had a daughter who dies.
    I don't have the time to go through each of them bit by bit but... c'mon man, if you're going to nit-pick, at least do it right...

    • @notcooldude7891
      @notcooldude7891 Před 4 lety +5

      Rougeification woah I needed to see that I was wondering what happened to the girl , now it just seems kinda pointless like she existed in between games just to exist

    • @ExplorerDS6789
      @ExplorerDS6789 Před 4 lety +8

      They should've had her exist somewhere between 1907 and 1911. Like, at the very end of RDR2 after John and Abigail are married, she could mention her pregnancy, making John feel on top of the world.

    • @alexanderjobe1140
      @alexanderjobe1140 Před 4 lety

      ​@@notcooldude7891 well John's daughter could have died the year he abandoned Abigail and Jack

    • @originaler31er67
      @originaler31er67 Před 4 lety +1

      Alexander Jobe he has his daughter AFTER the gang.

    • @wassabii2810
      @wassabii2810 Před 4 lety +1

      Doesn't Javier say something about John's daughter when they meet?

  • @moret25
    @moret25 Před 5 lety +93

    3:51 Well maybe, Strauss either had money on himself or he probably gotten the cash by selling something in a local store.
    5:58 Yes, but it's a SPEEDING train. It would've taken more than a couple of seconds for it to stop.
    6:35 Dutch wanted Lenny to get drunk so the whiskey could calm him down and forget about Micah, dude are you paying attention at ALL?
    8:14 John was apathetic towards his son because he didn't want to believe he was his.
    22:18 That's exactly why Dutch chose Beaver Hollow; not even the Law would think to look for them there.

    • @primmslimm2937
      @primmslimm2937 Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you

    • @bruhbruhbruhh3057
      @bruhbruhbruhh3057 Před 4 lety +6

      8:14
      Yeah, at this point John can also be out prepping to rob the train, meaning he literally isn't around and there's no reason to sin John for not going since he's not even here to go

    • @carl_consumer.of.reality
      @carl_consumer.of.reality Před 4 lety +1

      5:58 he literally said it wouldn’t be able to stop, the sin was about the conductor not even attempting to pull the brakes or even blare the whistle after seeing people on the bridge.

  • @tylerbebensee3239
    @tylerbebensee3239 Před 3 lety +4

    With regard to the change in mission rewards late game. I, luckily, went through the same emotions as Arthur. I started the game doing what was best for me and the gang.... Late game I kinda felt remorseful for my actions and the gang's. Then I did all the "good" actions. Led to me just barely getting the good ending by changing my character. Felt like that was how Arthur was meant to be played.

    • @benoitboelen9952
      @benoitboelen9952 Před rokem +3

      Something great they did is that even though there are 4 endings (and I, like many do, assume the canon ending is "Go with John" and having high honour), you can change your honour from pretty bad to just good enough in the last hour or so of the game. When you forgive Mrs. Dowes' debt (and give her more money), and one other (can't recall), you gain massive honour, so anyone who has low honour but wants the "best" ending, can have it.
      I really appreciated this on my second playthrough, as I had planned to do a low honour run, but last second (hour) got cold feet. I couldn't let Arthur die like that. He deserves better.

  • @Phaota
    @Phaota Před rokem +3

    I'd like to know how the agents at the very end found John's ranch or even knew he was living in the area. They find Micah's body, but that wouldn't point the finger at anyone, especially John. A dead wanted gang member in an isolated location well away from other wanted members should have just made the agents move on to other areas. I seriously doubt they were specifically out to hunt down John since they would have had plenty of suspects to look for.

    • @dirtbox222
      @dirtbox222 Před rokem

      The only other suspects they would be looking for (which they were) was Javier, Dutch, and Bill. All the others were out of their jurisdiction, or technically didnt commit any crimes. The only reason Strauss was caught and died is because he did more business outside of camp than the rest of the other non outlaw types usually did, and died from unknown cause in custody. That literally leaved 4 Gang members they would want to hunt down, and considering the USA's power and size at that time, it was reasonable that his past would catch up to him.

    • @CountChokcula
      @CountChokcula Před 7 měsíci

      John took a loan out to buy land in his name. The lawmen asked the bank and found out exactly where he lived at.

  • @gregoryderossett8976
    @gregoryderossett8976 Před 5 lety +251

    He sounds like how Mark Zuckerberg looks..

  • @WillieCuz
    @WillieCuz Před 5 lety +87

    His journal tells you what happened in Blackwater

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 Před 5 lety +8

      @Roy Gravelili. it talks about how they met Jenny, and Micah, how Dutch and Micah were planning to rob a ferry while Arthur and Hosea were trying to rob actual theives etc. How is that vague?

    • @patrickgracias5782
      @patrickgracias5782 Před 4 lety

      Dutch Van Der Linde there’s gonna be no more games about this story so fucking get over it

    • @otothegoglu
      @otothegoglu Před 4 lety +1

      Dutch Van Der Linde the Problem about a Sequel is that the wild wild West is „over“

  • @kingmango4054
    @kingmango4054 Před 3 lety +3

    21:25 they didn’t know smoking was bad for you.

  • @epicc1o1official
    @epicc1o1official Před 2 lety +4

    “They never show us the Blackwater Job so we have no idea what happened” and “They remove the mystery from John’s scars” are 2 VERY contradictory statements/sins of the game. Either you want everything to be shown or the do you want mystery to be kept, make up your mind.

    • @skylightsblade9468
      @skylightsblade9468 Před 2 lety +2

      Actually they're two very different things to sin. The scar wasn't always talked about and hinted at and poked at for it's mystery. It was a thing that sparked intrigue but wasn't constantly dropped into the story as an important beat, it just made part of John's past interesting and you would want to know but it's not important to know that answer. With the Blackwater job it's constantly brought up and hamfisted into dialogue to have you interested in it while almost never giving it more substance than it went wrong and Dutch broke his own rule killing someone. It's because it's so talked about and genuinely something important to the story to know about that it shouldn't just be a throwaway mystery that gets the bare minimum of explanations. The mysteries are completely different for relevance to the story.

    • @PastPositive
      @PastPositive Před rokem +1

      @@skylightsblade9468 If you didn’t know, the game completely tells you how it went down and what happened. But not in dialogue, the reason why people don’t tell you is because only Micah and Dutch know what happened really. Dutch won’t explain because he wants it to stay a secret in why he killed the girl and broke his rules so he almost never mentions it and says that he doesn’t want to talk about it all the time. He also gets angry whenever someone mentions black water. Micah won’t tell Arthur because Micah really hates Arthur and thinks he’s a fool.

  • @OfficialNinjaSkillz
    @OfficialNinjaSkillz Před 5 lety +280

    A Profanity Filter on a M Rated game

    • @MGX93dot
      @MGX93dot Před 5 lety +47

      A Profanity Filter on a SINGLE-PLAYER M Rated game
      FTFY

    • @justindatkins1234
      @justindatkins1234 Před 5 lety +6

      @@MGX93dot I think it's meant for the multiplayer.. idk how time consuming it would have been for a single player and multiplayer horse naming system.

    • @mariokarter13
      @mariokarter13 Před 5 lety +31

      Sex and violence are A-OK, hate speech will not be tolerated.

    • @justindatkins1234
      @justindatkins1234 Před 5 lety +17

      @@mariokarter13 sex and violence are part of the plan... But one little ole hateful word AND EVERYONE LOSSES THEIR MINDS

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Před 5 lety +11

      @mariokarter13 - The irony is the game's set in a time when hate speech wasn't just tolerated, it was institutionally encouraged.

  • @alphahale7668
    @alphahale7668 Před 5 lety +135

    "I hate that the game doesn't explain in detail what exactly went wrong in Blackwater. Fuck the mystery around it."
    "I hate that the game explains in detail how John got his scars. It ruins the mystery around it."
    *Bruh.*

    • @raneilija
      @raneilija Před 5 lety +21

      But you see, John's scars are a trivial matter which don't have any important aspect to them, while the Blackwater incident is something that is heavily referenced during the whole game
      Simply, the Blackwater incident needs an explanation while John's scars don't.

    • @fram3byfram319
      @fram3byfram319 Před 4 lety +4

      Raneilija We’re given enough info about the heist. All the audience needs to understand is that shit went sideways, people got shot, gang members died. They give us enough information with out having to tell us every detail letting the player imagine how things played out.

    • @noahchmielewski1347
      @noahchmielewski1347 Před 4 lety

      I agree entirely if they started the game with the blackwster the game would suck because your first impression of it is that it’s Robin cowboy game instead of a game about family and protecting those you love

    • @imasaltyperson1947
      @imasaltyperson1947 Před 4 lety

      @@raneilija What's difficult to understand that Micah made the heist in black water fail, and threw shit sideways, you really need the game to feed you informations with a spoon?

    • @raneilija
      @raneilija Před 4 lety +1

      @@imasaltyperson1947 I was trying to explain Dartigan's point of view rather than my own. I personally like how the Blackwater incident isn't explained completely, leaving room for theories and such. Knowing and seeing the origins of John's scars was also something I enjoyed. Sorry for the confusion.

  • @bravepigster
    @bravepigster Před 3 lety +1

    One sin you left out is that it turns day to night during the bar fight in Valentine.