I wonder about that peep sight, the way you shoot, man. I got that same rifle 30yrs ago, accurate as heck, but what you can do with a round ball is very good. You're right, most shooters have no idea what they're missing. They teach you ballistics, are fun and effective enough.
Man that's awesome! Really impressive shooting. Would love to see a clip of your loading procedure with your videos, I love geeking out on that kind of stuff. Thanks for the great content.
I’ve been tinkering with my Hawken , great info . Not too many close shots out here in west Texas. Wish those rear sights were in stock …but I keep looking .
Thank you. I have a factory stock .50 cal. Renegade that I’ve been meaning to get back into black powder shooting with, and this gives me a great starting point for doing that. I even have a Lyman rear sight like your rifle has, but don’t have it mounted yet. I will certainly look into those bullets.
Wow I watched this and run over to my storage building and dug out a T/C New Englander in a .54 cal. Bore looks good also dug through my casting mounds and found a T/C mould for a .54 Maxie Ball I think they are called I will have to cast one to see what grain it is I am hoping mine will shoot decent at 200 yards. Mine has a single trigger but my trigger pull gauge tells me it breaks at a consistent two pounds so I can live with that!
Hello Idaho love all of your videos!I you have inspired me to set up my tc hawken and try some distance shooting.could you please tell me what the ballistic coefficient and sectional density of these bullets are.can you get that info from baco when you order bullets from them?thank you.
You have great vision for you to get on that gong at distances like you shoot with peep sights. Impressive shooting! I like peeps but my vision is not sharp anymore. I look for your videos every time I'm on CZcams.
Enjoy your videos. Getting ready to hit the buy button for these bullets to try in my Renegade. Do I have to lube the bullet after wrapping and before shooting? How do these group at 100 yards in the 1/48 Renegade?.......................Thank you,
Just recently discovered your channel and this video I see you have some breech plug removal tools I've never been able to find anybody who has been able to remove the the breech plugs on those rifles I have an older rifle to in I have the tool but I don't want to risk screwing up my barrel trying to remove it would appreciate any pointers thank you
Do you use any bullet lube with this arrangement .? I assume that you use some on the 1/8” thick .54 caliber felt over powder wad .. would wonder lube work okay .? Man I just gotta try this, I’ll bet that puts the smack down on big game .. I’m in Florida and want to harvest wild pigs, Florida is full of them and can be hunted year round ..!
I have a 1:48 twist Traditions Mountain rifle that I want to try this with. My question, is there any chance of you doing a similar video using a flintlock Renegade or Hawken? I realize the accuracy standards would not be the same, however I would like to be able to shoot my T/C Hawken accurately out to about 200 yards.
Glad I found this ..this is great..and definitely gives me a new perspective on bullets..although I have a tc 45 cal...do you have a estimated guess how many inches above say a 100 yard zero..to hit that 500 yard target..just curious.
depends on the bullet design and velocity, amongst other things. External Ballistics isn't as simple as many on Muzzle Loading Forums would have you believe. But, by way of reference, using the claimed NOE BC for NOE 515-447-FN-AG4 (.272) (both this NOE bullet and the bullet used in this vid are very similar to the original used in the 50-70 govt cartridge) and assuming 1200fps (which should be doable with roughly a 80gr charge of BP): The bullet would be 27.6" low at 200yd (assuming a .75" sight height and 100yd zero), and would require 13.2 MOA of adjustment to be on at 200 (when you adjust your sight for that 200yd zero, it would about shoot 13.9" high at 100yds (with the apex being at 100yds)). A 500 yard shot would drop 319.6" low from a 100 yard zero (and require 61 MOA of adjustment) and a 500yd zero would be 64.1" high at 100 yards (with the apex being at 250yds at 106.7" high). IdahoLewis's bullet is different, but similar, and will yield a different trajectory (not to mention, I'm not sure what velocity he's getting, exactly)
God, i wish i had somewhere to shoot. I may as well just sell everything i own. If you don't own land, belong to the local gun club (which is extremely expensive and selective) or visit a 25 yd max indoor range with the rest of the rabble, you're shit out of luck. I remember as a boy i had all the woods in the world to shoot and hunt in. No neighbors, no licenses, and no hassle from the man. I didn't know what i had. I just thought that was normal for everyone.
Do you do your fouling shot with the same bullet you're about to shoot, or just any old bullet? I'd hate throwing an expensive bullet like that just shooting it into the dirt. A wrinkled up REAL or something is more my speed, haha.
I don’t feel there is any advantage of more powder, Blackpowder hits a “Wall” where you gain VERY LITTLE. 80 Grains of Swiss 2F Powder is a Sweet Spot 👍
@@thompsonjerry3412 I am confident they will shoot good for ya Jerry, I have been shooting these a LONG time, MANY Hundreds of them, They shoot REALLY well in all of my .50 Cals 👍
Excellent! Thank you!!!
I wonder about that peep sight, the way you shoot, man. I got that same rifle 30yrs ago, accurate as heck, but what you can do with a round ball is very good. You're right, most shooters have no idea what they're missing. They teach you ballistics, are fun and effective enough.
Man that's awesome! Really impressive shooting. Would love to see a clip of your loading procedure with your videos, I love geeking out on that kind of stuff. Thanks for the great content.
Thank you for sharing
I’ve been tinkering with my Hawken , great info . Not too many close shots out here in west Texas. Wish those rear sights were in stock …but I keep looking .
I really appreciate your good shooting and your clear ,simple , instructive ,authoritative manner. Good job!
Great shooting !
Please do any and all tutorials you can.
Miss your old videos you used to have posted. Such a wealth of knowledge.
Thank you. My 54 cal renegade has been a 200 + yard tack driver for 25 years .
it's getting there quick too! even a good group!
Far out and cool. That's hurntable 😎
Thank you. I have a factory stock .50 cal. Renegade that I’ve been meaning to get back into black powder shooting with, and this gives me a great starting point for doing that. I even have a Lyman rear sight like your rifle has, but don’t have it mounted yet. I will certainly look into those bullets.
Awesome again!! A PP video would be pretty cool to share with everyone I think. I watched your old one a couple of times..
Love the videos
Amazing accuracy and marksmanship ..! Now I just need a decent rear sight and a 500 yard range to try this lol 😆 ..!
Fantastic shooting. Love your videos
Thank you my friend 👍
With that rifle with stock sights it is a game getter
Nice work 👍
Incredible
Very cool
Good video, i paper patch for my cartridge guns and now i gotta try it with my muzzle loader, i always thought it would be the most accurate way .
U dog-gone right, its definitely cool
Very nice shooting.
Wow I watched this and run over to my storage building and dug out a T/C New Englander in a .54 cal. Bore looks good also dug through my casting mounds and found a T/C mould for a .54 Maxie Ball I think they are called I will have to cast one to see what grain it is I am hoping mine will shoot decent at 200 yards. Mine has a single trigger but my trigger pull gauge tells me it breaks at a consistent two pounds so I can live with that!
Great video Lewis, along with the other ones you do. Thank you. I'd like to see in one of your videos your between shot process. Thanks again
I will do a video SOON on Loading 👍
Another great video mate.
Bushfire.
Thank you Buddy 👍 I wish I could ship you some of my Bullets
And people say its not an ideal twist rate, seems to work just fine.
Hello Idaho love all of your videos!I you have inspired me to set up my tc hawken and try some distance shooting.could you please tell me what the ballistic coefficient and sectional density of these bullets are.can you get that info from baco when you order bullets from them?thank you.
I'm interested in how that peep sight was mounted. great shooting
You have great vision for you to get on that gong at distances like you shoot with peep sights. Impressive shooting! I like peeps but my vision is not sharp anymore. I look for your videos every time I'm on CZcams.
Enjoy your videos. Getting ready to hit the buy button for these bullets to try in my Renegade. Do I have to lube the bullet after wrapping and before shooting? How do these group at 100 yards in the 1/48 Renegade?.......................Thank you,
Those big slugs get out there fast.
Would you recommend these bullets for hunting whitetail if not what would recommend. Thank you for the video
Outstanding shooting! Where did you find the template to cut the paper patch? Thanks
Excellent shooting friend! My question is how high over the target is the barrel at 500 yards?
Just recently discovered your channel and this video I see you have some breech plug removal tools I've never been able to find anybody who has been able to remove the the breech plugs on those rifles I have an older rifle to in I have the tool but I don't want to risk screwing up my barrel trying to remove it would appreciate any pointers thank you
Do you use any bullet lube with this arrangement .? I assume that you use some on the 1/8” thick .54 caliber felt over powder wad .. would wonder lube work okay .? Man I just gotta try this, I’ll bet that puts the smack down on big game .. I’m in Florida and want to harvest wild pigs, Florida is full of them and can be hunted year round ..!
And they say these old guns aren't accurate
I have a 1:48 twist Traditions Mountain rifle that I want to try this with. My question, is there any chance of you doing a similar video using a flintlock Renegade or Hawken? I realize the accuracy standards would not be the same, however I would like to be able to shoot my T/C Hawken accurately out to about 200 yards.
Glad I found this ..this is great..and definitely gives me a new perspective on bullets..although I have a tc 45 cal...do you have a estimated guess how many inches above say a 100 yard zero..to hit that 500 yard target..just curious.
depends on the bullet design and velocity, amongst other things. External Ballistics isn't as simple as many on Muzzle Loading Forums would have you believe.
But, by way of reference, using the claimed NOE BC for NOE 515-447-FN-AG4 (.272) (both this NOE bullet and the bullet used in this vid are very similar to the original used in the 50-70 govt cartridge) and assuming 1200fps (which should be doable with roughly a 80gr charge of BP):
The bullet would be 27.6" low at 200yd (assuming a .75" sight height and 100yd zero), and would require 13.2 MOA of adjustment to be on at 200 (when you adjust your sight for that 200yd zero, it would about shoot 13.9" high at 100yds (with the apex being at 100yds)). A 500 yard shot would drop 319.6" low from a 100 yard zero (and require 61 MOA of adjustment) and a 500yd zero would be 64.1" high at 100 yards (with the apex being at 250yds at 106.7" high). IdahoLewis's bullet is different, but similar, and will yield a different trajectory (not to mention, I'm not sure what velocity he's getting, exactly)
I love your videos sir! What are the dimensions of your felt over powder wad, and are they treated with lube?
Love your work! What exact BACO bullet, and patch details?? If you care to share....keep up the good work!
Sorry I just finished the video
Nice! How many Grains of powder?
God, i wish i had somewhere to shoot. I may as well just sell everything i own.
If you don't own land, belong to the local gun club (which is extremely expensive and selective) or visit a 25 yd max indoor range with the rest of the rabble, you're shit out of luck.
I remember as a boy i had all the woods in the world to shoot and hunt in. No neighbors, no licenses, and no hassle from the man. I didn't know what i had. I just thought that was normal for everyone.
What do you size the paper patched bullet to and how many thousands of an inch do you use between bullet and bore? I also have the Renegade
What is the front sight and are you using a 6 oclock hold?
Do you do your fouling shot with the same bullet you're about to shoot, or just any old bullet? I'd hate throwing an expensive bullet like that just shooting it into the dirt. A wrinkled up REAL or something is more my speed, haha.
Any advantage with higher charges, say grains?
I don’t feel there is any advantage of more powder, Blackpowder hits a “Wall” where you gain VERY LITTLE. 80 Grains of Swiss 2F Powder is a Sweet Spot 👍
@@idaholewis265 just ordered the bullets, going to try them in my 1 in 38 twist Thompson Center Express rifle.
@@thompsonjerry3412 I am confident they will shoot good for ya Jerry, I have been shooting these a LONG time, MANY Hundreds of them, They shoot REALLY well in all of my .50 Cals 👍
From .492 what did you patch diameter up too.
With that Strathmore Tracing paper the Finished Diameter is right at .449, They load easy, with just thumb and index finger on the Range Rod 👍
I think he means the finished patched diameter is .499
.449 .448 is the patched diameter of my 45- 90 slugs