2011 MacBook Pro 17” (Donation to IMNC from Luke)
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2020
- After all these years, I finally have a 17” MacBook Pro in my collection once again! Since returning my college machine in late 2013, I've always wondered if another one of these beauties would cross my path.
I’d like to say a huge thank you to Luke for kindly donating this machine to the IMNC channel. Check out his Instagram here: / luke_sadler_
As you all know, the 2011 MacBook Pros suffered from GPU issues. Luke got this machine repaired under the Apple Extended Repair Program, but unfortunately the machine soon started to misbehave once again, and Apple refused to look at it a second time. The issues are very minor and I’m still blown away by how well this nearly 10 year old MacBook Pro performs.
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What the hell did I do with those drive screws?! I’m sure they’ll turn up in a couple of years 🙄
Sooo glad to see it back in some kind of service. Farewell my beauty - you served me well all those years.. until you started flaking out. Then work gave me a replacement and I basically stopped using you as soon as possible. Don’t take it personally.
Tbh so glad to see it go to a better place, even as a museum piece. You absolutely hit the nail on the head when you were saying about having that doubt in your mind about it’s reliably. I found it cut out most during high cpu loads (I’m a developer so doing a lot of intensive compiling stuff) and when putting pressure on the bottom near the MagSafe port. As for the high cpu usage, I’m not sure if that was the battery not being able to meet the power draw or just bad thermals. Check the thermal paste as it might be some cheap shite.
All in, this has properly made my day.
Thanks 👍
I have an old 2010 15in Pro that experienced the same issues but they didn't start till I upgraded from Mavericks to High Sierra. I do development work myself and it is a pain in the a**. I replaced the battery and that stopped the random shutdowns, but as for the GPU it still works, but the machine only crashes when I boot into Windows 7, but I do find that in macOS especially using Chrome, some icons, and the cursor dissappear. I think a battery replacement will solve tons of the SMC issues. Video may be the next problem.
Dylan Ash Did your 2010 15 inch had the issue with the capacitor on the GPU framebuffer power rail fails, and starts to pull the rail low causing the machine to kernel panic?
unboxing, upgrading and installing macOS on an old mac? now thats the definition of a classic IMNC episode!
Now we're talking :D
Disable the AMD graphics and it'll last another 10 years.
Apple's engineering is that atrocious, eh?
Eric Wood GPUs in laptops never last long tbh. They’re always the first component to die.
Yepp, that sounds like what it's doing itself when it boots and takes 90 seconds. Remember in About this Mac, it was saying Intel HD graphics... It would display the AMD graphics if that was the in-use GPU on that boot, so yeah, Tom if you see this, definitely have a go at disabling the AMD GPU and you might save yourself some time when booting up the Mac.
@@ericwood3709 Actually in this case it's AMDs fault. It's a design flaw in the chip itself. Basically the underfill between the GPU die and substrate is the problem, it cant handle very high temperatures at all, temperatures than is considered normal for most GPUs so the underfill would soften and melt.
@@Destructor8031 Very interesting!
Wow i am so jealous! Those machines are sooo cool! Great video Tom and thank you Luke for enabling such great content!
I’ve enjoyed this as much as he did tbf :)
Just the fan support is amazing, it’s like every other day a fan sends you something! This community is awesome!
Tom SO glad you have had this donated to you... the excitement you had opening it was almost palpable! :-D
Love the video as always! One great thing about COVID-19 and the lockdowns are the new and more often uploads/ schedule!
Dude the donations have been amazing! I remember the 17 inch also having the matte display option but I assume those are very rare nowadays. Oh also so many uploads recently, loving it :D
Lovely machine Tom! I been looking at getting a "newer" macbook and did consider the 17" until I heard about the graphics issues. Looking at a 15" 2013/14 retina now!
I have a late 2013 retina and I have to say, it's been bulletproof. Best Mac I've ever bought.
Yes!! A classic hype IMNC vid! Beautiful machine!
So nice to see a duplicate of the good ol' 2011 17 incher on your channel Tom 😎 After watching this, I think I should dust off my old 2008 Black MacBook and play around with it.
Yay , continually uploading vid
Keep the good job mate
Great video Tom. I would love to pick up one of these.
you don't. the gpu will fail.
Nice to see appreciation for these older MBPs, especially a 17 incher, dont see many of these beauts around and when you do, they're pretty expensive itd seem
Awesome donation Luke and content from you Tom 👌
It really is a beaut. I loved every one of those 900 cycles :’)
luke sadler I’ve never owned a MBP personally but I definitely want to get a 17” one at some point that’s for sure. Tom is in part the reason I got a PowerBook G4 (turned up today in fact), My Mac Pro (once had two; 1,1 that’s now a 2,1 that got sold and 3,1/2008 that I still have) and a older MBP at some point. I hope to enjoy the G4 once the OG 65watt charger turns up for it 😅 Glad you enjoyed the last giant MacBook Pro Apple ever made and well, glad it went to someone so appreciative and who will undoubtedly look after it. Sorry for the ramble, I tend to nerd out but once again; thank you for the donation to toms channel and for providing people like myself something to enjoy at the same time. May your new one hopefully provide just as much enjoyment if not more than the older beast 👌
I remember being so jealous of you back in the days because of the 17" mbp when I still had my 06 white Macbook with a core duo stuck on snow leopard great to see a other one back on the channel
Nice one tom and nice one luke what a legend
Really nice video.
For the random reboot/shutdown 2 solutions :
1 - Install Macs Fan Control (it helps with the fan(s) and GPU temperature.
2 - On the MacBook, verify the MagSafe connector. I changed mine and everything was ok after that. On a late 2008, it is a small board connected to the main board.
Looking forward to see your next videos.
"Turn the brightness up a bit-actually no I'm filming..." lmao... You are hilarious, Tom, and these videos are always a medicine to my body. Hehe.
Got one (Late 2011 2.4 i7) a couple years ago from a pawn shop. Upgraded to 16GB RAM and put 2 2TB SSDs in it.
How haven't I subscribed if I watch this guy's videos everyday, keep up the work! :)
IMNC MacBook content is the best!
Nice addition to the collection
Great video! I can relate to the nostalgia...I recently picked up a late 2008 MacBook for a steal (£175 on Ebay). I'm convinced the prior owner is a living angel 👼 it is *ABSOLUTELY FLAWLESS!* not a mark on it. It's a gamble getting anything used but occasionally you find a true gem 😍
U got scammed for 175
I just received 2011 17" Macbook pro in the mail, still cost in the 200 price range. It only a dual core duo . Its takes the 85 watt ac. Yours is a good find in that great condition. Normally the bottom housing is scratch or bent. There is so much space near the touch pad.
I had the shutdowns too on my 2013 MBP. It’s due to the Thunderbolt-port. I have (re)move the thunderbold drivers. Now i have no problems. I can still use the port for my external Apple monitor but of course for nothing else anymore.
At our school if you keep the computer through to graduation they let you buy out the lease for a reasonable figure (I think it was like $CDN120). This makes sense because they are likely off lease after four years and would just be returned for being sold of at a similar price as scrap or refurb.
good to see your still doing video's tom! and you have a lovely family. hope the airport card I gave you is still doing its job haha x
43 minutes!! this is gonna be a good one 🤩
I had a 15-inch late 2011. The best 15-inch you could buy at the time. If memory serves me right, I believe the internals of that 15-inch, late 2011 were identical to those of the 17-inch. Man, do I miss that machine.
It is not uncommon, that the fans freak out on initial startup as the File System needs to initialize and Spotlight as well. Awesome Macbook, awesome video. Thank you! 😊
Great Video! Consider upgrading to Matt-Display! 🙈 For the sleep issues, try replacing battery indicator cable, it contains a sensor for the lid. Cheers
model is early 2011, the battery is July 2011, which was a mid-model version, so it had a battery replacement very early on from being bought
I bought one of those in 2012 since Apple had stopped making 17" laptops - got it maxed out and still have it and occasionally use it from time to time.
I bought it despite having a 2010 17" simple because I wanted one with a quad core - and this was my last change to get one with that configuration.
I moved on to iMac 5Ks after that, and didn't buy an Apple laptop until the 16" MacBook Pro was released.
I finally had to stop using it since no one made Expresscard/34 cards any more, and the drivers for my Expresscard/34 cards stopped working in older versions of macOS. This left Thunderbolt 1 and USB 2 for peripherals, and no one makes TB 1 or 2 peripherals any more, and USB 2 was just too slow.
I've got a 2011 15 inch with the same gpu problem, what I did is strip the logic board completely down and then baked it at 400F for 8 minutes in my oven. Fixed the issue and it's been running fine for two years. As an addendum, you might want to reseat the heatsink with new thermal paste.
I really would like to get the last macbook 15" from 2015. It still has decent specs for today. But wow they are still expensive in my area.
The Unibodies are great! I have a Mid 2012 with 16 gigs of RAM, 1 TB SSD, and 2.7 GHz i7. Bought an external monitor and keyboard I'm treating the 2012 like a "Mac Mini." I planning on keeping this computer my daily driver until it dies on me.
I have two of these, one early 2011 2.2 and one late 2011 2.5
both mat screens, SSD s, 16GB ram. What am I missing with “trim”. Absolutely love my machines!
Tom, did you considered trying to disable the GPU? Those 2011 MacBooks have a lot of issues with GPUs as you described, which might fix the issues that you're experiencing. Good luck! :D
Even with all the problems of the poor PCB designs and terrible serviceability i always loved the 17inch macbooks , i would love a 17 inch to install linux on .
in 2020 i still use an early 2011 13in MBP running a patched version of catalina its runs pretty smooth with on the intel graphics and 4bg of ram and a 250gb ssd
Watching this on my lovely 15 inch 2011 pro and absolutely enjoying it (Edit) Now watching on a M1 MacBook Air, Still Have the 2011 Pro and still going stable
Nice one Luke, this is one hell of a laptop after eradicating the faulty AMD chips they put in it!
Interested to see what your plans for this are, it's currently too powerful to be a decorative piece
Takes me back to the one you got from college too
Wobbled That damned GPU man. So many headaches and trips to the “Genius Bar”. Worth it for the good times though. It was still my daily driver up until about March last year. Then the forced obsolescence, combined with its temperamental nature meant I just couldn’t use it anymore.
Jessica cameo @ 34:05!!
The 17" models were just gorgeous. I know how you feel about the random shutdowns though, I have a 2009 iMac patched to run Catalina and it's got maxed out RAM and an SSD. Plenty fast enough for basic stuff but I've had to retire it because it suffers from random freezing. I've done everything to diagnose the problem but never been able to figure out why it happens. And it's impossible to depend on now.
Have you seen Louis Rossman replacing a 330uf capacitor that seem like one solution?
A great piece of kit, a true *pro* laptop of its time. Like others have said, disable the AMD graphics and see how it behaves. I too wouldn't worry about a battery and charger at the moment, just keep your eye on any battery buldge.
Deffo needs an update video, even if its just diabling the AMD GPU to see if that helps.
Powell Reds sticker on the laptop in the bg... Nice!
My advice would be to change the CPU and GPU thermal paste and a general clean inside.Also you could try and disable the GPU and use the onboard graphics to determine if the problems persist. 👍🏼
Great video! Can you tell me what Drive toaster you have? I’m looking to get one
I'm watching this on my 2010 17" model!
Hopefully you’ll make another Mac video soon
would recommend replacing the thermal paste on that but other than that it looks really good
I believe that the Graphics Card hasn’t kicked in before of the 60w charger so the graphics card isn’t initializing. As others have said use the DosDude1 dGPU disabler and that should sort itself. The random issues are most likely related to the GPU
Sounds like an external dock would be handy for your main setup, so you can reduce the number of cables you need to unplug when you need to take that laptop remote. Also maybe add a USB 3 card for the port in the new rig to your nice to have items list. Cheers
great vid
Man, If I had the money, I would totally donate you something like this!
i had lines and re checked the cable that connects the monitor to the board and reseated and it fixed it, as it wasnt glitching id suspect that the cable could be requiring reseating rather than a bad gpu
I am a sub for both of you
Keep the good job
thats a nice computer i just bought a hp envy x360 laptop 15 inch i love it shes very speedy i had a older laptop that was more slower i was over due for a upgrade
I’d check out some of DosDude’s graphics work arounds or try to get someone to disable the graphics, hopefully then you’ll have a reliable backup laptop 😬
Don't use it in any anger the AMD GPU will pop, it was a known issue that with these MacBook Pros from 2011 with dedicated AMD GPU.
when I was working for an apple reseller from 2011 to 2016 I would see dozens these coming in with GPU artifices issues or HDD cable or
HDD issues, Apple refused service on these in 2015 and we where finding it card to get parts coming up to 2015.
There was an isolation board released by some guy that would isolated the GPU and only allow the intel intrigued GPU work making the machine
working again but with a performance hit.
3:20 *Big Mac Chungus has entered the chat*
I've been dailying a 2011 17" MBP for the past couple weeks, I got it for free with the dead GPU, and mailed it off to dosdude1 for the gmux flash to disable the AMD card. So far I love it, it'll hold me over until I buy a new machine at the end of the year.
how was the performance without gpu ie. can it watch 1080p CZcams and browse few tabs at the same time? battery increases?
My son needs an upgraded computer. He's using a 2013 Air. New ones are too expensive. What would you suggest?
I so like watching your videos 😊
I've got the giant 13" 2011 MacBook Pro but I do have a small 2008 17" MacBook Pro
Awesome machine! You ought to upgrade to macOS Catalina using DosDude1's "macOS Catalina Patcher" tool, which can get older machines like this running newer macOS releases. He's been making them since Sierra for various older macs.
Edit: Now I've heard your plan to run 32 bit aps, I think that's a pretty good idea. You could always do it on a separate partition if you wanted to mess with the patcher though.
Flashback to you complaining about your uni requesting the MBP back. Ah the times.
If you use dosdude’s GPU disabler, you will lose brightness adjustment, sleep and because you lose brightness adjustment, it’s 100% all the time and battery life is shocking as a result.
Do it via recovery commands and you don’t lose the above features.
I have an 2009 and I maxed it out with ram and 2 new ssd’s , and I use it every day , and I have a mid 2012 13 MacBook Pro and the new Mac mini m1
Hopefully everything was backed up in the iCloud before the SSD was changed.
He should try the dosdude 1 catalina patcher and get catalina on this machine.
You can effectively disable the dedicated GPU in software. There are more permanent solutions involving logic board modification (effectively remove the chip and reroute some lines) but a software fix works. The GPU is likely responsible for the sleep issue, I'd probably blame thermals for the random shutdowns but it could be the GPU is something is intermittently shorting to ground. dosdude1.com/gpudisable/
A new battery might solve the shutdown problem!
Nice Mac
The Samsung 830 256GB is really old nowadays. I compared this with the 860 Evo 500GB on UserBenchmark and the 860 Evo 500GB is significantly faster and more recent, and almost matches the capacity of its original 750GB hard drive.
The machine is also old so the extra speed of newer SSDs is unnecessary.
that theory about the graphics chip isn't far off and maybe a reball or solider may fix it properly
Use dosdude1 patcher install Catalina , it looks beautiful on 17”.
I'm hoping to do this in the near future, stay tuned!
@@ItsMyNaturalColour one thing I cant find is a blu ray drive for 17” MacBook Pro. A company called MCEtech-www.mcetech.com looks like they went belly up. Macsales sell the drives for the Mac Pro
Totally thought Luke in the title referred to Luke Miani.
Can you make a 16 inch macbook pro review?
Search on the internet. There is a mod where you disable the AMD graphics and it will live on for years.
Random shut down could just be a thermal issue maybe CPU needs repasted.
is it still working
hello
My do the same it just shuts down. I found it don’t like my phone by the ssd!
MAC OS 15.5 is what should be on the Macbook Pro.
its nice mac I always wanted mac book they cost a lot even on sell
what the highest mac os can it use
I have a MBP 17" that I was upgrading to a SSD drive and made the mistake of NOT unplugging the battery, and shorted out something on the motherboard. DOH!
The computer fans are going to go crazy new install indexing the drive let it set over night so it can finish index.
using 2011 MacBook Pro 17 for older software
they reverted back to original keyboards with the new MacBooks after butterflies keyboards epic failed
Contact Louis Rossmann... He does board level macbook repairs and might be able to fix it or sell you a replacement
It's a really common problem, and parts are really rare. Although dosdude1 created a tool to enable the built in Intel graphics.
I bet Apple didn't resolder the AMD graphics chip in repair. They only put a foamy piece of tape on the chip so that the case would press down the graphics chip against its solder pad!
It was definitely a full board replacement.
if you wanna fix the GPU issues, dosdude1 made a video where he demonstrated a custom firmware for these machines that will disable the AMD GPU rendering the machine safe from the broken GPU issue: czcams.com/video/n6ROPL2-5HA/video.html
With ,,Luke“ you mean ,,Luke Miani“ or a other Guy ?
Check out dosdudes guide to disable the dedicated GPU, so it only runs the onboard intel GPU only, that should get rid of the graphics issue
dosdude1.com/gpudisable/
I did this on my late 2011 15" and it runs perfect now
“This is immaculate!” - opens it up and the screen’s scratched to fuck 😄😜
Is it?
Apple replaced my 2011 with a new MacBook Pro 2018 under EU consumer law
LOL MacBook Pro 2011 = Dead Graphic Card... (Soon or Later)
Apple is the only PC maker that can get away with such shoddy hardware quality. Only they seem perfectly content to make PCs that break down due to poor soldering and insufficient cooling, and only their customers are A-OK with that.
I've had plenty of PC laptops with poor cooling design. And in this case it was more AMD's issue