PROTECT YOURSELF from Market Manipulation & Shill Bidding!
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2020
- Shill bidding and market manipulation are a growing problem for sports card investors. In this episode, Geoff exposes the problem and tells you how to protect yourself. .
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One form of market manipulation the video failed to address is how a lot of content creators are making "picks" well after they brought up those cards first.
CZcamsrs definitely have influence on the market. No doubt.
Doesn’t come close the numerous actions being sold with the winning bidder showing less than (8) feedback on cards selling for over $3,000 though. Facts
I had 3 auctions from probstein123 going when I saw this video, and I was thinking, “shit.....” And one bidder with a (0) feedback pushed my bid up. And I’m thinking, here we go, it’s gonna happen to me. They only pushed it up to half my max bid, and the card ended up selling for $13 over my max bid, but still. I thought I was about to be shilled, for sure. That’s the last time I enter a max bid unless it’s the last 2 seconds of the auction. And this particular card has no sale history because I’ve never seen one in a BGS 10 pristine (what this card was graded) or a PSA 10. So I was just picking a price I was comfortable paying, clearly, it wasn’t enough.
Of course, every card he talks about he already bought low and talks them up of his videos to spike interest
lol yep!
Reminds me of that scene in uncut gems when adam sandler bugs his uncle to bid on the opal. he gets stuck with it at the end LoL.
Lmao!! Dude that movie was insane
best sandler movie IMO
I’ve listed cards for auction on eBay only to have a person with a 0 rating win the auction and not pay for the card.
I didnt know that . ill look into it. Its so annoying people doing that . why would someone just bid on something and not pay?
I think they’re hoping you ship before being paid and then they keep card. I’ve had 3 people not pay after winning lately. One guy said his CC was stolen. The auction was for a $13 Jordan. Seemed suspicious because he never contacted me. I contacted him and his sentence was short and to the point. Didn’t seem bummed about not getting card.
Same. I’ve had people make an offer for the exact price of the card and then try to do the deal off evay
One other problem/BS is people buying raw/ungraded cards...getting them..and then returning them saying they are Not As Described----I figure they must be looking for 10's only and if not, they send it back.---Why else would they go through all of that trouble? And why bid and take the card away from someone who actually looked at the pictures closely and want the card???
You can also add it to your account that someone has to have minimum 2 (for example) feedback to bid on your items
I dont bid on probstein123 or pwcc auctions bc of this
Me to. Never.
Amen
don't forget all the trimmed fake PSA stuff they both sell. They are being sued, all three of them and being investigated by the FBI, but you already knew that
I no longer buy anything from them. Too much shadiness.
I guess I got ripped off 😕
I bought sports cards off eBay for about 20 years now. I've noticed consistently and have always wondered why people would pay more for a card from Probstein, and PWCC. Now I think I know.
Great video, Geoff. This addressed the question I posed to you a couple of videos ago. Thanks a bunch for making this to share with others.
Thank you for raising this issue!
Great info, I don’t buy from PWCC or Probstein123 anymore for that exact reason.
Great just bought cards from PWCC
Probstsin123 is a total joke. A high percentage of their auctions have errors they never correct, even when asked to clarify. They also shill and had the same issues as PWCC but at least PWCC has great customer service and have done some good things for the investor side of the hobby.
@@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 Probstein is the worst.
I don't max bid. Problem solved.
Found myself on this video because of Probstein 123. Lesson learned I guess
I already appreciate this post already!Great information to put out!
supercrop420 Fairly new to the hobby so I honestly didn’t know. Not kissing anyone’s a** my mans. If you feel that way then that’s what you think. Have a blessed one!
If you have any other tips that he hasn’t covered I would appreciate to know them also!
With high definition cameras and buying off a person with integrity you should be fine.
As the buyer read the description and contact the sellers with any questions. As sellers make better descriptions, and promptly respond to the buyer’s questions (we all have cell phones and the ebay app🤦) and if the seller is a man of few words. Dont buy his cards. He is obviously just out to getcha. If you contact a seller and it takes him several days to respond Id suggest never buying off that person. I prefer they get back to me within the hour.
supercrop420 not even gonna lie the market is effected by youtubers and social media. We as collectors need to do more research and not let the market be affected by the influencers. “Low Hanging Fruit” lol I know who your talking about .... that’s funny! Also I will say it is crazy with the technology today that we cannot get perfectly centered cards all the time without off the print defects. I feel in the pain that every time a new video pops up the market reacts and then a card that was $3 shots to $15+.
GREAT TOPIC - GREAT INFO - THANKS GEOFF!
Thanks Geoff ,great info ,thanks for keeping us in the loop .👍
Fantastic video, I had no idea. Thanks for looking out for us. You’ve made getting back into this hobby easier and more fun. Keep up the great work!!
Geoff this is another stellar video! Not just the content, but the wording you use. Anyone whose been in the industry or used eBay to buy/sell for very long has probably seen or at least sensed this at times. It’s definitely a fine line to figure out so as you said, it’s just a matter of always doing your homework and becoming familiar with the potential potholes.
I’ve had annual Market Movers subscription for couple of months now and absolutely LOVE these new features that you’ve put in place and explained here. It’s so disappointing that eBay doesn’t require PAID status to show as COMPLETE, but you’ve built in what can at least be used to investigate further. Another approach I considered in the past was removing any high (or maybe even low) bid that was above some standard deviation or control limit that would make sense... similar to throwing out highest and lowest sale in a time period as they do with judges scores in some of the subjective Olympic events. But it could be calculated here.
Anyway - the hot card videos are great, but you’ve had a handful of informative videos that are extremely helpful to those who are considering a deeper play in this industry.
Thanks for putting the new functionality into Market Movers, very useful. Great video.
This video explains everything! Thanks so much Geoff!
Ive noticed both as well. One thing i always look at with PSA cards potentially being relisted is checking the PSA serial number in the picture. Ive caught a few people putting the same card back up after a high sell price.
Thank you for sharing this problem. It needs to be noticed. Great video
Thanks for your work Geoff! Much appreciated!
Great video Geoff. This information needs to be shared so that people in this hobby become aware of market manipulation and shill bidding. Thank you.
Really glad to see you talking on this point and working to keep these issues out of your data.
Great video. I think market manipulation is much wider spread - especially over the past month or two. When the 1990 SkyBox Jordan went through the roof last month, my first thought was market manipulation. There’s really no other explanation for such a massive, quick jump on such an inexplicable card. And after a week or two, it was no surprise that prices plummeted back down. I noticed the same thing happen recently with the 2017 Optic Retro Series Fast Break Scottie Pippen. All of a sudden it inexplicably went up like 1600%. Then everyone flooded eBay with their copies. But of course none of them sold, and prices plummeted shortly after, because it was all a ruse. As a buyer, if you see a card skyrocket in price in a day or two, and you can’t **definitively** say why - RUN AWAY.
Good advice.
Geoff this is great! I have been thinking about this for a while now. There are outliers in the data that simply make no sense in some of these sales. In any data set you have to throw out the outliers. I started using a sniping program a month ago when these cards were going through the roof. I love the fact that you are talking about this and raising the issue. All we want as Investors is a fair deal. We are willing to pay a lot sometimes for a particular card however all we want is a fair and honest marketplace. This is a great forum and one that was sorely needed in a hobby "we all LOVE!"
Great video I'm sure alot of people think about this subject but Thanks for openly talking about it
Doing an advanced search for auctions that are deemed "sold" is how I go about determining a fair market price. You have to have some idea what the card is worth before making a purchase, especially if it's a high-dollar card. Whenever and wherever there is lots of money to be had, the ne'er do wells always show up. Very informative and useful information. Thanks partner.
Thank you so much for this video! Great insight. Incredibly helpful.
Thank you again Geoff! Great stuff!!!
TYTY! This is the best thing I have seen about sports cards.. ty for getting out in front of this.. I love cards and I am joining tomorrow.. John
Sounds like your talking about pwcc
That place has a lot of odd final prices...probstein is that bad...I know they have a big following...but pwcc, cards can be going for $150+ moving up slowly and then out of the blue one goes for $250
I have sum great cards id like to sell,but not willing to put them out there,account of all this crap,exspecially my 86 jordan fleer,y is there allways a middleman? If micky n babe were alive today and knew wat was happening ,ill bet they would put a freeze on theyre cards and say nomore.
What great information to pass along. Also adding those few things to the market movers. Always great information that is giving out.
Thank you for the valuable information and honesty! Much appreciated! Big👍
Great video. Very insightful content as always!
Thanks for the info and thanks for all the videos keep up the awesome work 👏
Legit. Well done Geoff.
Great information. Love this channel.
I remember when I got back in to collecting and bought a card trough probestein and they cancelled my purchase. Out of no we're they claimed they made a mistake and relisted the item multiple times. My thought was that they didn't like the final price it sold and decided to cancel but could be wrong.
When Kobe died lots of seller's did that. They should be throat punched for that crap. Lmao
Excellent content, Thanks! This makes me want to sign up for the MarketMovers site even more, though I'm currently unable to.
You forgot one important way to avoid this from happening: Download the EBay app for your phone. You will get updates to when auctions you are watching are under 15 minutes, and then you can track it. You don't need to be near your computer.
Good tip!
Plus the app doesn't lag. I snipe at 3 seconds and it goes through.
Good video Geoff. Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
Great video and fantastic info. Well done.
Thanks for being so helpful!
Great video. Lots of amazing info
eBay needs to step up. As a reseller this has been a problem for some time.
Agreed.
Sports Card Investor by the way Geoff ... helllloooo from Lakeland
@@SportsCardInvestor its and easy fix, but will NEVER happen because eBay DOESNT CARE and Makes MILLIONS of dollars every 5 minutes with auctions ending every SECOND in all,sorts of various categories across their site during the day where they get their 10% final sale fee plus 2.9% PayPal fee, they don’t care, BUT.......... if they added a seller feature where the seller could set “parameters” on bidders.
I.e., “only allow buyers with a minimum of “250” feedback to bid on this item, etc, etc, in the item listing, that would help a ton, but they’ll never do it, eBay doesn’t care.
@@playmaker88x51 100% Ebay just wants to get theirs. I welcome all the new options now entering the market, because eBay doesn't give a shit about sellers rights!
Great, as always, Geoff
You are spot on brother! I always thought sold items were items that had been paid for because completed items included all items. I have also noticed auction items selling for more than buy it now items. Probably a result of fake bids like you mentioned. So always look at buy it now items too if bidding on an auction. I really appreciate the information! Thanks for sharing! Stay Safe!
If a card sells for over $300+ on an auction style format on eBay, as of today’s date, unfortunately there’s about a 35% chance it’s been shilled, and that the “winning” bidder/buyer has less than (20) feedback, often times less than (5) feedback, which makes it highly likely it was shilled, and a FAKE sale. Super Annoying to the true collectors.
Great job presenting this important information. Very helpful...
Very helpful video. Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful info!
Thank you for this very important subject.
always great tips, thanks for this invaluable information! To add to that, I've actaully been looking at a 92-93 Shaq hoops draft card and you just made me notice that all 3 recent sales from one seller has a bidder with only 2 reviews bidding at $100..
Any bids (or winning bids) from buyers with less than (10) feedback on cards at $100+ are obvious shill bids, and fake sales. Sucks, but it is what happens all too often.
Thank you for educating people about this. It helps all of us.
Dang! Good to know brother. Thanks for the vid.
Great video...definitely a concern I've had...
I have been running into people bidding up my items, then I get an email saying sorry I'm not paying. I threaten to report them, they laugh and say they just make another account. Since they never have any intention of ever buying anything, only inflating the costs that they want, they can use any addresses they want. I hope you come up with something that really nails these guys.
The new subscriber re-entering the hobby, thanks for all the great information
Plot twist Geoff actually bought the lebron and shaq. I’m kidding man, love your videos
Extremelly great information!!!!!.... thanks
That is good advice for beginners. No reason any bid for any reason should be put in until the last couple seconds. A good sniping app is very necessary although I usually make it a point to step away from what I am doing and just place the bid myself when possible. Great video. These things are definitely happening.
Not sure I agree with your comment/strategy on waiting seconds before to bid. If I want a card im going to get it or do everything in my budget to get it. I actually usually come out swinging. I let it be known thats my card. Ive Lost too many auctions going dollar for dollar in the last seconds. Sorry thats not me.
thanks for the heads up.
This guy is crazy smart. That market movers tool is going to take off like crazy soon. Thanks for all the great info Jeff!
Wow, someone finally called them out. All the big auction houses do this. Recently saw where the same two or three buyer accounts were used to bid up several auctions of the exact same card. And eBay has no motivation to correct this market manipulation. See it happening a lot with high end (Brady, Mahomes, Jordan, LeBron) rookie cards.
Thank for sharing this info. Always informative videos. Just saying....this makes me want to purchase market movers. Right now I just can't afford the monthly cost. But you are doing a great job improving on the software.
Thank you!
@@SportsCardInvestor I changed my mind. With all the cards I have collected over the years I never realized how much some of them can be worth. Just watched another one of your recent videos and I have most of those cards that I bought I'm way back when. So I'm in on the membership. My only concern/question is this. Why don'y cards from the 60's or 70's sell for more? Is the hobby only about 'what have I done/seen lately"? I have very nice cards of Frank Robinson, Hank Aaron and Tom Seaver that sell for way less then the later releases. Would hate to seen all those who are getting into card collecting/investing lose interest because they lose on the investment side. I don't see any values right now in long term investments. But I love my vintage cards the best.
To answer that question on old cards not selling for more! It's a long term investment :) you tube card influencers can buy ..prop up the value with 500k subscribers and sell them off at the right rate.
100 labron inserts they buy for 5.00 pump it for 6 months and bled them out until it hits 3-500.00 is soo much easier than hoping some 21 year old can afford your 15000.00 eddie mathews rookie!
It's a ticking time bomb! More and more are catching on that its flippers jacking prices not investors! Card companies flooding the market with 1989 card quantities again plays into it all as its readily available to anyone. Nolan Ryan's rookie is on a slow rise until his era of fans dies in 20-30 years!
57 chevy use to sell for 4x now a days price! But very few left that want their car from high school!
Collectibles btw, are always on 50 to 100 year cycles....we can afford at around 50 to blow money on crap we had as kids :) college professor in psychology taught me that
As an investor, what I don't like is ebay does not show price of accepted best offer. I used to use watchcount but it no longer works. It should be illegal for them to hide these prices. Prices on stock and other investments are transparent. It's hard to do my job when I cant see best offer prices. I need that data to see what cards are going for, so I know what to pay and what to price at when I sell...
AGREED!
another great video, people need to be made aware of the scams and scammers! in the last 2 weeks i lost 4 auctions and not long after the loss, i get a email from the seller saying the buyer did not pay, i can get the card if i wanted it, blah blah, four times in just 2 weeks. one notice came 24 hours later, i wish there is a way to report that scammer. yes, sniping, shilling, etc are against ebay terms. thank you for your commitment to the hobby!
Nice video and very interesting
I wan to see what wiil happen with prices after quarantine
Great analysis!
Great info!
Good stuff sir!
Bet those that put thumb down on this video are the one doing it. Great video. Another topic will be how the distributors are holding case to create demand. Also the people that are not collectors but buying everything to resell.
Very helpful to a new investor 👍
Great video!
Spot on.
Great video. Glad to see someone is willing to step up. I personally no longer buy from People Who Conserve Cards.
@1stBowman Collector Pre War Consignment Cards, as per their website.....
Thank you for the great message. Do you think this shill Bidding will cause people to start buying more from other selling platforms like StockX or something like that?
You are a very good guy. Thanks! I buy penny cards through buy it now and high ratings sellers only. Its just like buying real penny stocks- always know what you are buying. You are the best Geoff. Once my debt sports novel gets finish printing I will sign and send you a copy! Christian Lee
oops Debut Teen Sports Novel
I find it strange when one of those large auction houses have 3 cards for sale ending around the same time the 1st one seems to always sell for much higher I've thought this was going on last couple years but this crazy recent spike validates it for me I hope it's not true because it will destroy the hobby Great content Thanks for your thoughts
The next in succession tend to go for more as bidders from the earlier auctions get outbid they increase their bids on the next ones. They've been watching, they are of of course sniping
I’ve been in a couple of these auctions where there are multiple items listed and ending close to to each other. I usually go after the “lower” one cuz I feel the one that’s higher compared to the others is usually being shill bid by the owner of that card. I Also check the bid history on an auction when it’s about 1-2 hours close to ending, if I see someone with less than 5 feedback bidding , I just completely stay away from that auction...
Great info and needs to be talked about!
Great topic of discussion. i have personally seen it happen and luckily i did not continue to go higher on the bid. It was clearly overpriced. Time to create a safe sale location platform Jeff. :)
This was awesome 🖒🖒🖒
Great video very informative
Thank you great video
Another great video 👍...this was an important one..
My advice if you can't bid at the last seconds of an auction: Place a max bid that you are comfortable with.
Example: The Shaq Topps Gold RC. If you see the average sales are between $900 - $1,000 and you're comfortable with paying $989 at most..then set your max bid for $989. If you win great, if not, they'll always be another one on auction.
Even if there was Shill Bidding going on and you still won at $947...ya, it sucks if there was Shill bidding and you might have won it for cheaper if there was no Shill bidding going on, but because you protected your self by putting in a a comfortable max bid you won it at a price you were comfortable with and you didn't over pay.
Another tip: Don't get caught up in FOMO..(Fear Of Missing Out)... Don't put some crazy high max bid just because you really need or want the card bad. They'll always be another auction. You might pay a couple of bucks more or even a couple of bucks less on the next auction...and that's better than over paying by $$$ because you put high max bid because you had FOMO.
Patience my friends..
Lessons learned...max bid/bid what you're comfortable.
And don't fall for the FOMO.
good stuff spot on.....jordan cards are big right now with market manipulation and shill bidding ...jst be wise...i only bid at end and always look at how the auction is being bidded....if it it looks fishy it prob is....i mostly look for buy it now sellers with make best offers...thanks for the advice.....peace
Appreciate the insight here Jeff. Thanks again! I got doubled the other day. Guy listed the same lot twice, at almost the same time, with slight variation in the title. Won low, seller switched the lot to the second edited lot with less cards. When i contacted the seller, was immediately aggressive about my inability to read the lot, which is something I specifically do not do!
Wow........super shady!!!
Yes Ebay frowns on bid sniping and yes sometimes bid sniping has also taken potential buys from myself. However, with Ebay and their inability to protect (lack of care, because it potentially makes them more money) against shill bidding. I say use a sniping service. I will save you money. The other part I would say is always have a pre-determined price you are willing to pay for a card, wait till the last day or few hours for the auction to end and set that bid. I understand that you will be paying more but you need to go in with the understanding that you were going to pay that price anyway. To be honest saving a few bucks on a purchase should be considered a nice treat, because if you go in with the notion that you can save 10 dollars, 100 dollars or 1000 dollars (for a few people) by using a service or waiting to the last second then you are just going to create stress and anxiety for yourself that is unwarranted. Which in my opinion takes away the enjoyment.
Thank you for telling the truth
Love your info. Question. Does ebay charge the seller fees on an unpaid for sale?
HI Geoff, great info - thank u very much for this!! I did know about this before BUT i had no idea Probstein123 & PWCC were doing such "dirty deeds" (for lack of a better term).. By the way - how do u keep your PC in back of u not accumulate dust? : ) Keep up the good work brother!
Knowing you are an investor and looking for quick flips. It would only make one question as to if you own a couple of the cards you consider “pick of the week” on your channel to bring attention to them and drive up the price for your benefit. I’m not saying you do that but that sounds like Possible manipulation as well and should be addressed also. IMO
Yeah I agree. Emmit Smith fleer update and conseco Topps traded card Spiked Immediately after he spoke about them. It’s not worth the risk. Geoff is a great guy and i appreciate what he’s doing for the hobby but i think it’s only right to address the impact He’s had on his pick of the week Cards in this video.
Great video
Excellent Geoff, this could be a series because there is a very shady undercurrent with card sales and card alterations. Anytime i see PWCC or Probstein I keep on going i would never trust those places. Especially PWCC that place is a joke, the owner claims to want to clean it up but is represented by El Chapos lawyer. The amount of altered cards getting through grading companies makes me think there may be some issues inside the grading companies.
A variation of market manipulation occurred (and went out of control) in 2016. Cards were going up drastically, sometimes as much as tenfold within a matter of months. Vintage baseball seemed to be the main segment targeted by this so-called "buyers club" back then. The impact could be seen on eBay, in auction house results, at card shows, etc. Those record-high prices are now a distant memory, though.
The recent run-up on more modern cards has some of the same characteristics. An entire segment of the market is experiencing a meteoric rise in prices. I agree with you that most sales are legitimate. However, there will inevitably come a time when these prices fall. Granted, they will not return to pre-spike levels. Still, they're likely to fall sharply, and rather fast.
A helpful strategy for navigating times like these involves ignoring the "fear of missing out." Look for a segment of the market where things are selling at a relative discount at the moment. Spend wisely and you'll do better than most.
ive always been an off and on card collector my whole life...ever since i was like 10 years old...i have sold several pretty large collections over the years..ya know, life happens...but the fire has been lit again, lol...its alot easier to light that fire when you see the prices of cards right now..i have pulled out about 20 cards i am sending off for grading.
I use a sniping service and love it. A lot of times I missed out on an auction because I was trying to wait until the last minute. Now I can set my max bid in advance without worrying about raising up the price of the item. If I win great, if not, I know that I tried my best at a price I could tolerate
What app is that bro. ?
When you get out bid the last minute, then right after the auction the seller sends you a second chance offer 🙄
Just curious what your thoughts are about the Derek Jeter rookie card that sold for 140 grand last Friday. It was a psa 10. Do you think that was shill bidding or market manipulation?
Thank you for addressing this! Seems eBay needs to add a “paid for” feature, among other things! Simple fix is don’t buy any of the cards that are suspicious and teach these scum bags a lesson by sticking them with the cards! Collectors know, “Don’t believe the hype!” I avoid cards from popular discussions! Collect what you love!
eBay definitely needs a "paid for" feature. I agree.
Absolutely man, there is so much false hype in this "hobby". A backup guy, who wasn't good enough to start, falls into a starting job because of an injury or trade... All of a sudden here comes HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE like he's the next Dan Marino or something...Ignore the hype. Do your own research and ignore the idiots. Whenever a CZcamsr starts raving about a guy like that I automatically don't buy that guy. It happens at other levels too... Breakers who rave about a certain set because they're breaking a case of it.. HYPE HYPE HYPE to pull more people into their streams to make them money.. I watch a lot of videos of folks ripping packs because I want to see the cards before I buy a box. Also, then I'll shut up... If your "hobby" is your source of income, it's a business, not a hobby. Trying to build a comaraderie with potential customers by throwing the "hobby" word around is seriously crappy and a lot of people fall for it.
Ebay has NO INCENTIVE FINANCIALLY to do that guys! The more we THINK and believe its selling for the more they make!
They would be moron business owners to do that! It has zero benefit to them!
Another thing about the breakers and so called experts! They RAVE about a CARD ...Real story...Labron Galactic for 2 months knowing they own 100 of them ...hype it shill some ...manipulate some....then start loading up auctions...200k subscribers now have it on saved search and then....stupidly, go on 3 months after that and BRAG about all the money they made selling them all like they were the geniuses!
These are market influencers ....gaining an audience and getting the flock of sheep to bank roll their no job life PRIDICTING ....and I'm not bashing this guy here...he has actual tools! But he is beginning to catch on himself...I see it in his face!!
@@edwardchier3154 It's funny you picked up on that because I saw the same thing in his body language and facial expressions on this one. I believe he's legit, 100% and not in on any of that, but you could tell he saw some data that he didn't like. The entire sports card market is thriving and at all time highs without these specific cards being shilled, but it does happen (just like the $1,800 Shaq card he was talking about).
Hey I recently won on auction a 2018 panini cyber Monday jersey patch cracked ice 4/5 Ronald Acuna rookie card graded a 9.. I can't find this card anywhere as far as previous sales. Do you know it's worth and is this a rare card to get. Thanks
Great content. I think it is up to the buyer to bid realisticly on items. If you really want a card, you can wait until its in your budget. I never bid a price on a card that I feel is too high.
Great tip on waiting until the end to bid. But if a buyer cannot make the end, just set your price on the card that is fare and not something way to high.
I have lost auctions by less then a dollar before but I usually find the same card within my price range soon after.
If you really want a card, create a saved search for it and set alerts. You will find it sooner or later at a good price. Some sellers have buy it now for a realistic price.
Shill bidding has been around for a very long time and not surprising the big auction houses are involved. When i set my tools up for selling i was able to exclude buyers with 0 feedback or very low even though some of those same buyers bought an auction of mine. I have been lucky in the fact that most auctions i do or buy it nows have worked out fine.
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Probably nice to increment the price (on the y-axis) at $50, $100, $500, $1k, etc. for easy reading.