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- čas přidán 7. 03. 2022
- ABC News’ Linsey Davis speaks to Florida state Rep. Joe Harding, the legislator behind the bill that would ban teaching lessons on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten to third grade.
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I am gay, and I don’t support this at all… and I am a preschool teacher as well… like I don’t want kids learning about this stuff this young… they should just be allowed to be kids. I don’t even believe in this whole gender theory identification stuff
Never understood this argument. What is it about learning about human activity that prevents you from being a kid?
Kids aren't "allowed" to be kids. They are kids regardless. No amount of learning about taxes or gender theory is going to change that. The reality is, this isn't about the kids. It's about the adults feeling uncomfortable with the ideas. You even said it yourself.. "I don't believe in the whole gender identification stuff"
Lots of people still don't believe that being gay isn't a choice. Should we ban teachers from saying it isn't- oh wait... It's too late.
With all due respect! Little Kindergarten Aged Timmy probably has girlfriend or a crush and his parents probably tease him and poke fun!! If a girl/boy has a same sex crush or boy/girlfriend you as a teacher should go about it the same way you do Timmy!
Come on this is not even an issue
@Shikamaru But it is. The whole point of people supporting it is because they are uncomfortable with the idea of children learning about gender identity and sexual orientation. Kids couldn't give a damn what they learn. It's the adults who feel sentiment over the curriculum. DeSantis even referred to it as an "anti grooming bill". What part of learning and encouraging gender identity and orientation is "grooming"?
Newsflash: It's not. It's old homophobic ideas believing that talking about being gay will make you gay/ LGBTQ agenda is trying to brainwash your kids into being queer. As a southerner this is a popular narrative.
My argument isn't about what's in the bill. I was responding to the sentiment by the OP.
@@Vertekmaster Adults are responsible for raising children. This is what parenting is for. The bill simply gives parental autonomy back to the parents and takes it away from school officials. Whether young students should be learning this material (or whether they care) is a separate debate from whether parents should have a right to make decisions about what their kids learn. Just because children don’t care about what they learn doesn’t mean it’s okay to teach it.
@@John-jz7zz it "being okay" is exactly why parents should have little say in the curriculum. Morality and ethics is instilled from the environment we grow up in, and parents already dominate at least half of that aspect. Public school is supposed to be a neutral ground where students can learn information that parents would deliberately hide/ demonize due to their own beliefs.. Unfortunately now, instead of trying to teach facts about real topics like sexuality and gender identity, we've sided with feelings and emotions to dictate what information is "too much" for parent's feelings.
I would call this the “just be a kid” bill
Or maybe call it “ let’s teach math, spelling and reading and let parents be parents” bill.
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Or the "save the brainwashing until later in life bill"
Or "Keep the alphabet soup community away from are kids" bill
Rite on
How does a bill to restrict teaching young babies k-3rd grade about different types of sexuality cause such problems? This bill protects young minds from unnecessary molding.
With the bill kids are literally not never going to know non straight,cisgender people exist.
If that’s not moulding I don’t know what is
@@Anonyomus_commenter the problem here is it is up to the parents to teach children and there is not one damn reason that kids age 6-9 need be taught about different sexuality types and gender identities. They need to be learning to read and write and do math, how to get along with other kids, learn history and so much more. This bill protects the innocence of childhood. Helps kids not be bombarded by things they shouldn’t be even thinking about until they are much older. I think these subjects should be covered later in education not teach babies about gender identity. This bill keeps this kind of educational curriculum away from children in grades k-3rd grade. So you really think a 6 year old should be taught this theory instead of another subject? Schools don’t even have enough funding to do regular curriculum. They are low on books classrooms are overfilled. So why is it that the responsibility to teach kids about gender identity falls to the parents do you not like???? This is exactly why the bill was created, to keep people like you from tainting the minds of young kids and taking up precious classroom time !!!
@@destinyrosestillman9432 Kids spend 38 weeks in school a year
In that time you can learn to write, do maths, makes friends and learn history, along with much more. But by that age you tend to have a very set world view. I agree it shouldn’t necessarily be part of the key curriculum, but if a kid has gay or trans parents and people pick on them for that, or if they are lgbt (which some kids that age are, not many but they do exist, as by 9 you will probably have had a crush on someone) then it needs to be explained. Kids are horrible at not picking on people for little things.
@@Anonyomus_commenter then if a child feels this way they can talk to their parents and if they don’t feel comfortable doing that they can speak to a school counselor. I am a woman that is bisexual I have 2 young children that I don’t want them taught anything like this until their minds and bodies are ready. And I also would be very mad if my ability to instill my own values in my children was walked all over by the school. I just don’t agree with teaching children that young about things like that I think it’s perfectly fair to wait until 4 th grade to be teaching these kind of things and then they can put it in with sex ed there doesn’t need to be specific blocks of time in the school day to be teaching this as an offered class. This bill does not say anything about kids not being able to ask questions of their teachers. It aims at the goal of keeping theories out of the classroom that are directed at very young children which may not be ready for this information.
Wait so do you think they should learn about relationships between a woman and a man or not?
As a teacher, we had gay/lesbian/ couples, singleparents, uncles/aunties, grandparents who raised kids. Mostly kids never asked about "two dads" or other variant households. They just accepted. If it ever came up, kids say "he has 2 dads" and teacher says "yes, they do". End of story. No need forbedroom details. Lol
You are a responsible logical trustworthy adult with healthy boundaries with children. This bill is for adults who seem to lack healthy boundaries with children and I agree with calling it the anti grooming bill. I truly question their motives and the statistics of molestation rates as children in the community is very high.....
I think what they deem as normal appropriate conversation and exposures to children and sexualization is grooming behavior that happened to them they don’t recognize......
No one is teaching “bedroom details” to children though, and no one is trying to.
@@acehealer4212 hope that's so. Therefore a child stating they are the oppsite sex can be started on an irreversible path without being fully informed about the beauty and potential of the sex act. Yep. I think that's fair enough, at 11 or so (not). Keep believing that. (Hey, life long medicalisation without experiencing the beauty of sex. No problems there.)
@@origins2437 yes,i think so.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 You’re kind of grossing me out here with this “beauty of the act” talk, man. Have you even met a trans kid? This “irreversible path” stuff is just fear-mongering. People don’t take puberty blockers until they’ve actually started puberty. Some teens stop taking blockers and puberty resumes normally. Some stay on the blockers and then get hormone replacement therapy as adults, when they have had time to think about it and are mature enough to make decisions about their own bodies.
If you advocate having schoolteachers impose radical gender ideology and sexually explicit instruction to prepubescent children, you should be investigated for child sex predation.
"sexaully explicit instruction" lol what
I think you are the one who is fixated on sex. They never were teaching kids about sex or gender, just like the protect the children pedo-scare BS, it's a lie.
Um - for the ages we don't need to discuss anything along these lines - straight, not straight, gay, etc. They are CHILDREN. Leave them be and let them develop without this mess.
Saying how Jack or Jill has two mommies or daddies isn't teaching sexuallity.
You are so naive. These kids already know about LGBT+ people, same-sex marriage, etc. ,,, and ... they wanna talk about it and ask questions.
@@mrbutch308 Knowing about something and actively promoting the ideology are two completely different approaches to education. Humans on a whole come to an understanding of sex through the process of maturation. And your comment is completely based on assumption about my perspective.
@@monotech20.14 You're right to some degree of course. It creates confusion in an otherwise massive margin of what is typical worldwide. Showing them how it works is teaching sexuality however. Humans don't need deliberate instruction or introduction to sexual concepts for them to figure out how to procreate and form families on their own. Thousands of years are evident enough for that. Children are at the first stages of the process and interrupting the natural maturity of it is simply harmful. Leave kids alone and don't give them more information that nature already provides.
@@AtomkeySinclair No one is actively promoting an ideology. You are just repeating divisive talking points.
This bill could also be wrongly called the "Don't say straight" bill. It would be equally wrong as this does not have anything to do with the bill. However, it would also be wrong for a teacher to have a discussion with a 1st grader who said that they were gay about being straight or that it was somehow wrong for them to be gay. This whole discussion is not for the teacher to discuss with the child. The teacher should notify the parent and have a discussion with the parent if they feel that it is causing an issue with the child.
The crazies out there believe that any Disney fairytale where the princess falls in love with a handsome prince is "straight propaganda" for kids, and that they need to go on this crusade to push gay propaganda in their face to "balance it out."
There's a variety of reasons why each dissenter hates the Florida law; whether they're stupid, too lazy to read it for themselves, naïve enough to trust the headlines at face value, see it as an opportunity to b*tch about their perceived victim status, or actually do want to groom kids. All in all, their intentions are NOT noble or valid in any way, and the more we continue to assume that these people are criticizing the bill in good faith, the more we avoid criticizing them for their own selfishness, malice, and bias that's causing real harm to the country.
if the student came to the teacher and not the parent then maybe that says something about the parent.Students don't have to live I necessarily 'abusive' homes but living with people who don't support ESPECIALLY family the people who are supposed to support you through anything THATS why causes the depression and the suicide
@@davidmoyes7010 I'm not understanding how this correlates with the bill.. please explain
I totally get what you mean, i really do,
BUT it's a welllll-documented Thing that Children growing up
not knowing all the Things that exist and one can be is harmful af.
Jaden Animation JUST released a video about that.
No offence, but do you think straight people will be affected the same? “Classroom instruction” can include banning books. Do you books will be banned for having straight characters? Because they will be banned for having lgbtq characters. So no, it couldn’t be called the don’t say straight bill.
Guy can't even pronounce curriculum
Was just scanning comments to see if anyone else noticed lol. Instead of worrying about kids learning something they are afraid to discuss themselves they should learn proper English.
Teacher here…it was the first thing I noticed.
It bothers me as much as his overall syntax. I had a hell of a time fallowing what his point was most of the interview because it’s all over the place.
Well he is right. Kindergartners shouldn’t be taught about sexuality when they can’t even subtract numbers.
@@Aurorus. exactly!
Joe Harding Needs to just Admit that he's Gay and quit Gaslighting...
Total deflection. Who cares anyway?
You mean like former Illinois congressman Aaron Shock, who voted against a lot of gay rights bills and turns out was gay himself.
Look in the mirror, dumbass. How does barring sex lessons to third grade and below make him gay? Awfully bigoted of you.
This fella is still learning how to annunciate the word “Curriculum”
There was a time not that long ago when a person outside of the parents talking sex to a child at this age would be charged with a crime.
My God where are we headed in society where something like this would not only be normalized, but advocated?
If you would actually take time to talk to gay people you would know that being gay is not only about sex.
@@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 kids arent gay.......
kids arent straight either
@@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 He’s talking about the concept in general, stop being dimwitted. They shouldn’t be learning about this young, leave it to the parents
@@WL1264 I mean,they are still straight or gay, they just aren't exploring the adult side of it like sex and relationships and community yet, because theyre kids and they arent supposed to know what that even is. But kids still get little crushes and stuff. Only difference is that kids who end up discovering that they are gay later on in life may develop crushes without realizing that they're gay yet or even knowing what that means.
@@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 Anyone talking to a kindergartner about sexuality should be in jail
The bill should be applied for all grades. 4th grade is still too young.
I was taught love by my parents, by movies, tv. Teachers never got in the topic of romance. We were taught to love our friends and families. I believe we only got to that topic at the end of 5th grade up to highschool since when we were going through hormonal changes. We learned about our bodies at that age by special speakers. Again by special speakers. Not by our actual teachers.
Yes, but love means you must tell the truth. Lying is the most hateful thing anybody can do. The truth is, all children are born straight.
See if you can locate the 666 in Disney's emblem.
It's a shame as a parent who lives in New York that the mayor of New York is against Florida's anti groomer bill. So much so that the mayor of New York invited all of the child molesters for the sexual groomers to live in New York City. I'm sure that would make decent people of Florida happy as can be but for people living in New York who are parents we are already fighting the good fight against the sexual perverts. New York is almost as bad as far as California when it comes to openly supporting groomers.. we don't need any more sexual perverts and New York City we have enough of them. It's amazing before open borders and multiculturalism all of the sexual perverts all the groomers in western civilization would hide in the cracks and crevices of society but as soon as we open the borders and about tens of millions of people to come into the country from outside of Western Civilization AKA Christian civilization the Antichrist sexual perverts came out of the cracks and crevices an openly supported child molestation. Unfortunately America went way too far down the most psychosocial path to the point where child molestation is accepted in the mainstream in places like New York and California. I think what we need is a two-state solution this way The Real Americans can go back to living in a first world nation with morals. And the left can go live in their sexually prepared a child molesting Utopia where the groomers can groom away without having to worry about moral people on the right pointing out their sexual perversion. It's a win-win for everybody except of course the children of the Democrats those will be the real victims
@@jamestkirkland5984 The Democrats in Florida tried to pass an amendment to this bill focusing it on human sexuality, yet the Republicans brought its focus back to identity. Why do you think teaching children that gay and trans people exist is grooming? Also, I am curious what you think of the argument that teaching children about sexuality will help children identify if they are actually being preyed upon and being groomed for sexual purposes (This is not related to identity and this bill but I am curious what you think of the argument nonetheless)
So sad the four of you don’t realize that there’s other people with different beliefs and choices than you.
What are they teaching in schools these days? When I was in elementary teachers never talked about anything sexuality related, that’s not their job. But we all knew what being gay was, its not like kids have to be taught that.
@Ozzy Yup, it's like people are forgetting that students will have questions/attitudes about these things
@Ozzy Again, that’s not a teachers job, that’s something that can be taught at home
@@sillynelson1 I feel like “don’t be mean to gay and trans people” is perfectly appropriate to teach in schools. I mean, we learn about the black civil rights movement in elementary school. What makes the gay rights movement so adult it has to be taught at home?
@Ozzy Yeah, sure, but we’re literally talking about 5-8 year olds here, they probably won’t even be able to comprehend that. Most kids at that age are still in the “Girls go to college to get more knowledge and boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider” phase, I don’t think any of them have even considered or worried about who they’re attracted to lol
Its NOT being taught. Its just more rightwing fear mongering.
The whole idea of schools keeping secrets from parents makes every parent want to pull their child out of school.
Parents put their child in school trusting that Schools are teaching their children reading writing and arithmetic but they are not their parent. How did we get to this place?
As I see it, they are trying to open the kids to all options. Something no one would want. Imagine telling Little Stan it's ok to sit on grandpops lap, because grandpop is so happy about it. That's as bad as China Joe's leg hair.
@@stringmonkey568 christ america
Probably because a lot of parents in this country are still homophobic and coming out to the child's parents is a terrifying idea. Let alone the number of children that are abused due to having a different view or though than the parent. So The schools were giving the children a safe place to express themselves and become the person they want to be, without fear of retribution or "therapy" because the feel a certain kind of way.
@@mattdove766 you sound like a groomer. Probably are one
@@mattdove766 its not about being homophobic , its literally weird to teach kids about skin color and race and gay stuff its common sense they dont need to know all that , this is why im all for cutting education because nowadays teaching people about gay stuff and skin color and race is disguised as education when its not , we spend billions of dollars a year on education when we can spend that on other things like federal jobs programs for people and affordable housing social security expansion , small bussiness grants etc…
Lyndsay Graham is going, "wow, and I thought I was in the closet" 🤣
lmao
He Can't even Pronounce "Curriculum"!!
Lmao
He opposes child sex grooming, and therefore he's gay? Bruh WHAT?!
@@howdabowdix Chill, it's a joke.
Interesting to see all the students protesting were well above the grade level of the students this bill is referring to. Were are all the kindergarten kids that are protesting that they want to be taught this stuff. I guess there are non probably because they don't even know what we're talking about. So why talk to them about it. Adulthood can wait. Just let them be kids.
nobody does !
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Because no one reads the actual bill they just listen to what the news says I didn't read the bill until yesterday Because I couldn't find it. Even what I found was very brief. It didn't even say the kindergarten through 3rd grade part.
I don't care what grade, they're excluding lgbtq+ discussions because they think it's predatory to kids to learn.
If they can learn about the birds and the bees at that age in school with the normal boys and girls talk, they should be able to learn about what gay people are too.
It's intentional exclusionary behavior just because the straights think it preys on kids to discuss LGBTQ+ topics.
Because if you really think "kids don't need to learn about gays 4th grade and under" you're horribly wrong.
God forbid a kid gets picked on for having two dads and not understanding why.
Same goes for the kids who would bully the kid for it.
We need to stop treating LGBTQ+ people like they're abnormal.
They’ve only picked under grade 4 so that they can use that as a springboard/precedent to ban it further. They won’t stop at this.
"Let them be kids" as long as they're straight, white, cis and Christian, right? What about those LGBT kids who are now second class citizens in their own classroom? Do they have a right to "just be kids"?
Glad the senate passed this. There's no reason why this topic should come up in K through 3rd grade. The public education system is screwed up enough in the US and the last thing it needs is this stuff.
Yeah spot on man, you’re ignorance is astounding in it’s I don’t have a clue how people could want to be anything other than heterosexual. Children don’t see difference, intolerance, ignorance, they get those disgusting ideals from their parents, so you just having a brain fart shows where you get your ignorance from, no need to thank me, it’s just educating you, trumper
@@tonybarden9187 Says the child sex grooming advocate. Take a nap on a freeway.
@@tonybarden9187 I can assure you. Come up to my kids in a park and talk to them about this stuff. Would be a grave mistake. So don't think being a teacher saves you from the same fate
@@tonybarden9187 You just love the idea of grooming children don't you?
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I’m not even a “Republican” nor was I ever a big fan of Ron Des Santis but I definitely support this bill.
Right. This is a subject that should be addressed at the appropriate time, by the parents.
That shows me how bad the Florida school system is.
Same. Teacher’s shouldnt be pushing sexuality at a young age. I learned about sex in health class when I was in middle school. I was learning math, social studies and science in 3rd grade. I liked girls yes. But a teacher wasnt telling me about my sexuality. The way that it is portrayed in the media, with “dont say gay”, is so absurd. It’s about parent’s rights and i support that fully. To think that it is that outlandish blows my mind. Of course I want my son to be free to feel however he wants. But I dont want a random teacher to suggest anything to him. I am here for that.
@@michaelmarks9002 Suppose your son is called "gay" (or "f@990t" by other students). Shouldn't his teacher be allowed to correct those students? What if you son is gay? The lesson he will learn from this experience is that he can trust no one. If you support this, he'll know that he can't trust you.
The Republicans from the south.
Gay.
The bills official name is Parental Rights in Education. It bans school employees/teacher from giving classroom instruction on "sexual orientation" or "gender identity" from kindergarten through third grade. This should be common sense and it should be for all grades
Sheesh, based.
I agree for early grades, not all. It's important for older kids to learn.
You literally couldn't be bothered to even read the full sentence you're defending. You somehow, either intentionally and maliciously or unintentionally and stupidly left out the "or unless age appropriate or developmentally appropriate," so the bill can be applied to K-12 students depending on individual interpretation.
@@itsikabitch9005 Wrong, you're so wrong. The "age appropriate" part actually references the standing book of regulations currently used for state educational standards. It's not really open to interpretation AT ALL.
@@matts1166 Your name Speaks for yourself kid...
Little children should be allowed to be innocent.
How does telling a kid it’s okay to be gay take away they’re innocent?
So ALL CHILDREN should NEVER PURSUE ANY FORM OF RELATIONSHIP BOTH HETEROSEXUAL AND HOMOSEXUAL
This is being pushed down our throats~ everywhere- SAD…..MUCH more important things to focus on…….like UKRAINE, their people & country!
Man I dont even know what to say I can't believe this is even a thing for kids this young.
There isn't.
@@monotech20.14 There is though. Do the research on schools teaching it. He even said it in the beginning.
He gave no examples...
I’m gay and I knew it when I was 4 or 5. I didn’t learn about sex until much, much later, but learning about queerness and gender at a young age shouldn’t be controversial in 2022.
@@reading101 I’m honestly curious on how you knew at that age? What influenced you?
Stepping away from the LGBTQ part what is the purpose of the classes doing that, I never even heard of something like that in elementary school.
I think it's a lie. Just another way for them to get voters excited so they will head to the polls.
Schools all over the country lately have been pushing the alphabet soup dogma and sexually explicit lessons and activities on kids who can't even read yet. Some teachers have posted videos bragging about convincing even preschool children to declare new genders for themselves. As far as I'm concerned, this sickening practice amounts to predatory grooming and should land them on the sex offender registry.
@@NamasteTexas yeah this whole bill is like anything the news reports, divisive and propaganda
Idk why do you refer to your kids as he and she
@@howdabowdix 100% agree. They aren't fit to teach anyone anything.
He can't even say 'curriculum'. Go back to school!
I wonder if he spells it with a "K"
crriculm
ok groomer
Ah yes. I remember my gender theory lessons in kindergarten.
GOP vs Queer’ by ‚Some More News’ would be a Start to understand the bigger Picture.
I'm part of the lgbtq community and I think that this Florida state senator is actually correct! Kindergarten is not the time to even be talking about all of that... Let a child develop first before trying to sway them one way or another
I appreciate your comment. I have no issue with any individual based on their sexual orientation. However, I do believe that what you do in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. That goes for straight people as well. I have issues with those who push / force things on children, who are very vulnerable. Promoting homosexuality, transgender, drag queens, and any sexuality to 5 year olds is unacceptable. Again, thank you for your comment Snoop Catt.
- A 20 year old elementary school teacher
In other words, only push your agenda's
What do you mean trying to sway them? If you’re part of the lgbtq you I figure you would believe that sexuality isn’t a choice, wouldn’t you?
@@Zeldamarie1482 what you ACT out upon is a choice. BEHAVIORS ARE a choice. But regardless, that's not even the issue here. We're talking about exposure of certain things to the innocence of PRESCHOOL to KINDERGARTEN CHILDREN .. AT SCHOOL... away from their family who (generally speaking) loves them... that really isn't the most conducive AGE, nor the place, or with the right group of people.
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Gay voices should be heard. LGBTQ youth should go to school feeling proud and loved
Good thing the bill does literally nothing to stop that. Read it for yourself.
My nephew lost his mother at age 7, he wore some of her clothes, shoes and jewelry for a while (a couple years) we didn't do or say anything and eventually he stopped
He's now married to a woman and has two children.
If this happened today the school would be pushing hormone blockers and filling his head with nonsense.
They would. And they probably wouldn’t even tell the father.
Exactly I was a Tom boy and wore my brothers clothes. It wasn’t a sexual thing I just looked up to my brother and wanted to be cool. I was a kid!! I’m grown woman married to a man. Imagine if my parents conditioned me to become a boy ? I can’t even imagine
@@wanderingsoul2931
That's what would happen today..........Sad state of affairs that we now
have a need for such Bills.
Hope your brother is doing well.
He’s lying. It says you can’t discuss sexual orientation at certain ages. It’s in the damn bill
Yeah and sexual orientation includes being heterosexual too…it’s not an attack on gays it’s an attack on teaching age inappropriate content to k-3 read the damn bill
@@Hannah-do9jl yah but it would be naive to think that this would affect straight ppl. No Talk of straight relationships would be complained about
@@cescapraca it’s k-3…what kind of relationships did you feel the need to teach them about anyway? Besides you can do it at home that’s what parenting is for
And what is wrong with that? You sick pervert
Perfectly fine on k-8. No need to discuss anything but math and English. K-3 are prepubescent so there for they can’t be LGBTQIA
At school you should learn math and reading and keep the topic focused on being academically successful. Not a place to confuse young kids about things they don't understand
Damn right
Well, how do the kids reach a point where they do understand something? By learning.
@@broadwaygamer3425 liberals are still in question ❓
Just as important in especially kindergarten and 1st Grade is to learn how to respect people and their differences. I’m sure that was a huge part of your kindergarten and preschool but back then it was more focused on the color of peoples skin, now we have progressed to discussing homosexuality and gender as important diversity as well since it’s such a big part of American society and the world. We are basically teaching kids that people are different and that it’s OK to be different it’s no different than what we all grew up watching Sesame Street learning in kindergarten’s across America. This bill is very sad Mostly because it allows one single Homophobic parent to complain and limit the teachers power to make the world less tolerant to kids at a young age which is so important.
@@andypettit5869 well, there’s a lot of things to learn in the world.
I somehow don't remember thinking about sexuality or gender beyond Transformers and Barbie from K through Grade Three. It wouldn't have done me any good to think about it, because I couldn't have comprehended it to begin with. There is an appropriate time and place for everything and that's just not a necessity.
Its why kids grow up so confused now. When we were kids we'd play with our friends and action figures. Now kids are having to worry about what gender or sexuality they want to be, or think they are. Its just filling their head with a bunch of unnecessary questions and extra confusion and stress. There used to be a time when adults were adults and didn't worry their kids heads about gender politics or politics in general. Now its like everyone wants to shove it down their throats, when all they should be worried about at most is school and being a kid.
Exactly. To have it in elementary school is weird.
Kids are smarter now.
Overblown issue from where I have lived (FL a decade ago and now VA). Let's be real though, most of these laws are usually in FL, NY, or CA. If you don't live there its likely not coming. Fear makes a good headline for the news though. Even if you live in one of those states its not a big deal for most people. Gin up the stuff though and make ppl freak out on social media because that always works well.
@@Leeta that's a lie. Most people under 35 are dumb as hell these days. Lazy and undisciplined.
dude it’s curriculum, not criculum. at least get that part right! 🙄
Not about to listen to him again, but I'm pretty sure he has a problem with any word 3 syllables or more.
@@tripe2237 hominem is a 3 syllable word... as in ad hominem
@@napmaster9135 Would you like 2000 words explaining why he's an idiot?
As a Democrat, I would’ve voted in favor the bill to be made into state law.
@@dumpling47 Where in the bill is the word gay?
@@dumpling47 Opponents are calling it “Don’t say gay” . Thats not what the bill is called
@@dumpling47 Jesus you’re brainwashed. “Change the name of the bill”? From the fake slanderous name democrats call it? What?
@@dumpling47 Dude, seriously, read the bill. It applies equally to gay and strait. It's EXACTLY what you just asked for.
If you are against this Anti-Grooming bill then lets think about it logically for a second. Do you want a christian to speak to your child grades Kindergarten to 3 grade about sexuality? No? then why would anyone want you grooming their children?
As a pansexual I got very scared about this bill but I realized what it actualy was.
No, you did not realize it.
Here, have a Second Realizitation, this time not fueled-by-fake-news-and-succh: GOP vs Queer’ by ‚Some More News’ would be a Start to understand the bigger Picture and why a whole minority-group is upset. A Start.
Not one media personality calling it that have read the bill. Teachers don't need to encourage kids they are something they're not, that's grooming. If they decide on their own fine, if they reach out to teachers the parents need to be involved.
Teachers need to be teachers, not therapists.
@@peterbelanger4094 take it !
thats another issue though, theyr kids, they are only just learning about the world around them and likely dont have a good enough grasp on things to make such a determination at such an age. Its a similar thing with transgender desistance, most kids who identify as transgender stop after a few years.
@@darnellfelix8114 did you know you liked girls at 6? If so, shut your mouth. Stop invalidating others experiences.
@@cosmo588 No. Most kids don’t even genuinely like the opposite sex until they’re in middle school. How many little kids have you heard react to marriage or the concept of boyfriend/girlfriend with “ewwwwwwww gross!”? Probably countless.
The fact that we need a bill like this proves just how morally inept school teachers have become.
God bless those who still follow good standards.
He claims the bill doesn’t use the word gay yet the examples that he gave in answering her first question regarding the “concern” that prompted this bill were lgbt related. He’s trying to say two different things at once.
I totally get what you mean, i really do,
BUT it's a welllll-documented Thing that Children growing up
not knowing all the Things that exist and one can be is harmful af.
Jaden Animation JUST released a video about that.
Shut up
Kind of moving backward here. Not very American at all. All in the most liberal nations have the best quality of life. We used to be that nation once. Right now not so much.
Would predict higher suicide rates over time. But not sure if anyone in FL government really worries about that.
Are you kidding me? You think 5 year olds are gonna hurt themselves because they’re confused about their gender identity or don’t feel included!??
As someone part of the lgbt group and as a new parent. I personally agree with this bill. I don’t think small kids should be talking about this in school . Even though i came out to a teacher and a group we had in school i have yet to come out to any family member im 26 lol. With that being said i think as a parent you should have a conversation with your kids ask them what they feel and make it known that if they are its okay for them to tell you when ever they are ready and you are always open to talk about it. Just to avoid them going to someone else that isn’t you. Cause i do think this is a conversation that should be had with parents 🤷🏻♀️
i like the idea of keeping politics out of school. look what just happened to allison collins. that was a disaster. i was lucky to get out of elementary and middle school unscaved by this new ideology around race and gender. I am very grateful I missed that by a narrow thread. Some of these poor kids don't understand what they're being told.
@@mattlev9445 The US is certainly not an inclusive country
@kthetallone203 It shouldn’t but they damn sure made it political.
You should not agree with this bill if you read the entire sentence, it is not just K-3 that they are allowed to apply the law to. There is an "or" after "grade 3".
"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third
parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."
The last two words STATE STANDARDS means the state can make up standards here. If the sentence ended at "grade 3", it would be fine. But, it does not. The state could claim K-12 is within the standard. They left this way open to interpretation .... of course.
You didn't even read the bill. So once again kids are just going to fall through the cracks. They won't find any support from their shitty parents or from potentially a trusting adult at school. And you say you even found that at school!!! Wtf
This is how it should be:
Student - “Why does Johnny have two Dad’s?”
Teacher - “I don’t know, and that’s not on our curriculum. So go ask one of Jonny’s dads, but we need to get back to math.”
Is that really so hard?
Florida is starting to be a first contender on states to flee to from my authoritarian blue state.
So does your blue state tell you what you cannot say?
@make it make sense that's not what this bill does.
@@makeitmakesense2616 No, but blue states teach our kids degeneracy of the highest order. This bill will let kids be kids and not allow the lgbillnes community brain wash our kids.
@@twesj so what does the bill do? Why is it necessary? Please indulge me
@@makeitmakesense2616Yes, right to assemble is considered freedom of speech. The COVID restricts were pretty harsh, not as bad as California or New York.
Amen...I'm shocked woke ass ABC aired this on their channel.
Stop singling out the lgbtq they don't need anymore disrespect, they need love and support like all children!
Stop teaching children who are malleable
@@TheMiamirep stop being scared of stuff u don't understand, and let yo children grow into who ever they r going to be, without discrimination...
Some people r just haters
@Jimmy Hoffa so...why should people respect you?
So stupid. You don't need a bill. Use common sense and be polite.
We don’t need police! The criminals just need to be taught common sense and to be polite! We don’t need children learning about sex at that age, homosexual or not.
First the don’t say gay isn’t real. Men are men not women plain and simple. Targeting children with this bs is child abuse.
@asmr maskoo lmao and that’s not what the bill is about. Some random adult talking to children bout sexual topics is called grooming. We are talking bout children 7 and younger here. There is no reason to be exposing children to this crap. Men are men and women are women plain and simple. Indoctrinating and grooming will not be tolerated by us parents and the backlash has already started.
@asmr maskoo lmao umm yes gay is sexual. Children raise in a two parent home always have a better chance then those who don’t. It falls to the parents to teach their kids about these thing not activists teachers. The reason I said the men are men part is bc it’s these same morons who are pushing this bs onto children. Teaching this nonsense to children only confuses them and damages them mentally so yes this is child abuse.
Our children need to enjoy their childhood. Nobody has to talk to them about sex. That law must be passed in every state.
Yea....it doesn't ban using the word gay. You just cant talk about homosexuals, straights, bisexual, lesbian, or trans.......but of course you can use the word gay.....for example "Fred and Barney had a gay ole time".
This is not America anymore idk what the hell it is
The Dems via MSM are trying destroy America
Not age appropriate, but it's appropriate to show a kid that it's ok to be gay.
That is the worst thing that a man can do let astray a child no matter what it is.
Not in school though
@Censored Opinions you’re delusional. There is 6 billion religious people in the world and the number is still rising and always will. Maybe you should stay off the internet and go outside. And the fact is everyone came out of a man’s sack into girls v and out. you probably fail to see that because your lost of reality. At the end of the day everyone was born a man and woman you can not change gender just like you can’t change age. Have a nice day. Oh and god bless.
@@UncleRuckus-codeblack you think chastising people is gonna bring them closer to god? You think hating on your neighbor is bringing you closer to god? If you’re just going to spread hate then how are you different than those gay people who are also “sinning”?
@@UncleRuckus-codeblack If you're going to judge and lecture people, you might want to start rushing up on your grammar. Oh, and God bless you.
@@jsully8076 ok grammer nazi.
I'm also gay, and kids shouldn't have to be indoctrinated this young. Sexual identity should be a natural awakening, not a forceful ra*e of the mind every day in a classroom where you should actually be learning reading, writing, and 'rithmetic. It is only in upper middle school and all of high school when inclusivity is a major issue, and even then, forcing LGBTQIA+ topics on others isn't necessary. Naturally, with all of this hubbub about such issues over the decades, kids these days are already activist-minded enough to know not to bully LGBTQIA+ members. Society has progressed towards inclusivity enough to where we don't need Disney and especially not teachers shoving inclusivity and awareness down people's throats. Enough is enough.
Sexuality is not even part of the Florida curriculum. Until the Republicans started promoting this bill, this was a complete non-issue among educators. They're using it now as a wedge issue to get more harmful bills passed in the future.
Even if teachers do decide to mention it, it's going to be some small discussion about how some people are gay or trans and that's ok etc. I doubt anyone is advocating for teaching about the nuances of gender and sexuality to 2nd graders every day in classrooms.
@@soyoltoi It may not be part of the official Florida curriculum, but there are books that kids can read, books teachers can and _have_ read to their students, members of the LGBTQIA+ (like drag queens) that have come in to read (and this is the mildest offense, in my opinion), and even talks during classes about such topics. It's not a matter of talking about these topics, it's a matter of _when_ it's best to talk about these topics. Six, seven, eight, nine, and even ten year olds are not going to fully understand these topics, let alone the actual curriculum they're learning. The subject doesn't even need to be broached until they are at least at puberty age.
To say that sexuality is not even part of the curriculum is to speak a half-truth, because we've all known for years that sexuality, books about it, and even gender identity has been discussed in classrooms. It's a non-issue among educators because they are either a) part of the progressive system or b) they're too dependent on their income to speak out about it. A simple Google search for "gender identity taught to preschoolers" will bring up all sorts of extracurricular sources that promote adults (parents, teachers, guardians, etc.) teaching this sort of thing to preschoolers.
This means that the smoke is there, and this smoke seems to be encircling a fire that, technically, we simply cannot find. That's because it's not part of the actual curriculum, but it's still being taught through reading and in-class discussions.
@@IndependentMind115 Imagine replacing sexual orientation and gender identity with quantum mechanics in what you said.
"It may not be part of the official Florida curriculum, but there are books that kids can read on quantum mechanics, books teachers can and have read to their students, physicists that have come in to read (and this is the mildest offense, in my opinion), and even talks during classes about such topics. It's not a matter of talking about these topics, it's a matter of when it's best to talk about these topics. Six, seven, eight, nine, and even ten year olds are not going to fully understand these topics, let alone the actual curriculum they're learning."
This can all be true since there are books on QM for babies, but I don't believe that means discussing the topic should be banned out right. And there is a good reason you would want to teach children about sexual orientation and gender identity and that is that it reduces the stigma behind these topics, reduces the likelihood of bullying, and help alleviate some of the confusion surrounding identity that children are already bombarded with. There is good evidence on the benefit of teaching children about LGBTQ issues that I can cite if you'd like.
If you were an educator who believes that teaching young kids that LGBT people exist is harmful, you could voice that in a way that's not homophobic or transphobic. Just say that while you support the LGBTQ+ community, you believe that these children are too young to be taught about such subjects. Yet this is not what's happening. Instead, we find legislators making intuitive arguments of protecting child innocence. If bringing the topic of gay people existing into the classroom were harmful to children, there would be child psychologists against its discussion, but the people promoting this bill aren't child psychologists, who are largely against it mind you, but conservatives. Considering it's the conservative establishment defending things like child beauty pageants, I highly doubt this bill is to protect children from actual harm but rather some vague perceived harm and conservative ideas of degeneracy, which is not anything new. After all, there is nothing inherently sexual about teaching kids about gender and love. Not to mention, the democrats in Florida actually tried to pass several amendments to focus the bill, one banning instruction intended to change kids' gender identity/orientation and one banning talk of human sexuality, yet the focus has always moved back to identity.
We can't say gay anymore? What should we call it then?
🤐
Another idiot who ignored the interview and didn't read the bill 😒
@@howdabowdix I'm at work I'll read the bill on my vacation. Oh and by the way I'm writing a bill that you won't be able to say "idiot" or you will get a low social score and there will be reparations!
@@maxingmust2264 Neither the bill itself nor this interview is long at all. Instead of educating yourself beforehand, you sounded off. Stop doing that, and you can stop being an idiot.
If you have time to comment on a video, you have time to at least get the gist of what it discusses. No excuses.
Parental Rights in Education. I mean that's official title. You could try calling it that.
Kids minds need to be protected . A lot of perverts in schools .
If a student wants to use a different name at school than at home and not tell their parents, that’s fine with me. What if their parents tells them they’re wrong, or beats them, or kicks them out? That possibility is scary. I’m sorry, but if your child thinks they have reason to fear you, them I think you forfeit some of your rights as a guardian and authority figure. If you don’t want your child to keep secrets from you, them let them know that you would love and accept them no matter what.
Harding just spouts garbage constantly. The Trevor Project has an “agenda”? Really? We’re having the “gay agenda” conversation in 2022?
Edit: And stop calling Harding closeted. “The anti-gay politician is secretly gay himself” is an unproductive stereotype. It does not help LGBTQ+ people to make baseless assumptions like that.
Can't assume
What if you are wrong and you just causing a mess too
Plus this is for kids from k-3rd. Whos kicking these kids out of the house at that age? Also abused kids is a different situation.
This guy is unbelievable!😡
Why would this even be taught in K-3?
It's not but I'm sure many kids by that age notice their parents are both mommy or both daddy and have already asked them why.
All this bill says is you can't start grooming kids until the 4th grade. Disgusting!
Read the bill, it goes farther than that.
It literally even prevents kids being exposed to heterosexual stuff too
It doesn't, if you think any judge from Florida would take a lawsuit regarding anything heteronormative being taught then you are a fool
How does a kindergartener know their gay?
No
The same way they would know * they're * straight
They discover that they have a love of Broadway musical.
Small children need to be taught tolerance... but talks about gender identity sexual preference is wrong at that age. It confuses more than helps. I, as a parent, can have these talks with my children one on one if the conversation needs to be had. I don't need a teacher with an agenda to teach my kids about this. It isn't their place. Once again the LGBTQ2 community is making it out to be something it's not... most of them don't even have children and have no concept of what they are talking about.
I believe you are absolutely right
Remember this is only K-3 kids, not middle school or high school
Joe's gay phobia is overshadowed only by his own gay features, voice and persona.
What's a criklum?
That might be curriculum, what university courses are called.
If this doesn’t prove that schools aren’t teaching properly i don’t know what is… 🐑
If only Ron DeSantis had a proper education, maybe he wouldn't be such a dumbass
If you refer to The Trevor Project as "he" that's the first red flag you know nothing on the topic at hand 🚩🚩🚩
The average 3rd grader is 8 years old... If your kid is "coming out" at that age, I'd be looking harder at the parents than the school district...
Pretty sure they believe children are born gay or transexual
@@icedclips725 So, instead of the children finding this out themselves through the natural order of things, they're being 'groomed' by their parents into thinking that way? Before the kid is even pubescent?
What a shocker... _/sarcasm_
Regardless of whether you believe that you're born that way or not, pre-pubescent children don't need to learn about anything like that, either in school or by parents... They need to find out themselves what they are at their pace, and ask questions about it when they feel they are comfortable.
@@Mr._Sandman that's usually how Kids find out, most of my gay friends knew they were attracted to the same gender by the time they hit 2nd grade, the difference is they felt alone because all they knew was straight, and obviously the parents never helped because they either didn't want to deal or they were hateful. Some kids are being led to believe they are because of pop culture. That's not right, but neither is not believing gay people when they said they knew. Did you have a crush by the age of 8? If so why is it any different for gay kids? Or is the difference that it makes you uncomfortable?
@cosmo You're assuming I'm not comfortable with gay people... I have gay relatives and friends. And they've expressed to me that it's disgusting to them that pre-pubecent children are being 'groomed' in such a way, and I agree.
I'd assume you didn't click the 'read more' and just missed the point... The age of innocence is getting smaller and smaller by the year... discussing sexuality with a children is just asking for an uptick in teen pregnancies/vernarial diseases/etc.
Why can't kids just be kids anymore? Do you really think an 8 year old _really_ understands the repercussions of any sexual information, enough to make the decision in their heads that 'they are who they are?'
And, anecdotally, I had a crush on a girl when I was 8, but it's like a dog chasing a car; at that age, I wouldn't know what to do with it if I caught it.
Glad parents are waking up…even parents who don’t understand the seditious aim of critical theory, sense the backwards logic of those who are being intellectually dishonest and purposely misnaming the bill.
If it’s a good thing, why try to be sneaky and try and coerce parents into accepting something they don’t want. Message to Parents - pull your kids out of public schools if feasible to do so.
@stella vasquez Your logic is a fallacy reasoning and is flawed in its construction. My comment specifically points out “those who are being intellectually dishonest, and purposely misnaming the bill.” Now, if you want to respond to what I stated, then do so. Otherwise you, yourself are being intellectually dishonest by introducing the informal logic fallacy of a red herring. I wrote about the insidiousness of intentionally misnaming the Bill, you wrote about an entirely different topic. And by the way, if you don’t believe ‘they’ (opponents) are misnaming the Bill, I just did an internet search, every liberal outlet still refuses to call the bill by its proper name.
@@reven-docta79 GOP vs Queer’ by ‚Some More News’ would be a Start to understand the bigger Picture and why a whole minority-group is upset. A Start.
@@slevinchannel7589 Another false narrative. Let’s see G8ys for T r u mnp, Log Kabin Re Public anz, David Ruben and many other individuals and groups vote and or belong to the GOP. Who says a person can’t be kweer and vote for the GOP.
Children are harmed by ignorance, not information. Stop forcing your own ignorance onto children.
Their agenda is to promote tolerance. Parents have the right to decide whatever they don't want their children to learn.
If you want to limit what your kid learns about reality, homeschool them. They’re going into the world. They need instruction that informs and protects them. Parents are woefully terrible at exposing their children to diversity.
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 are you a parent? Also are you white? I’m Latino not Latin X and my kids like most kids learn a lot at home. If anyone wants to step in between me and my kids then we taking it back to the 90’s. You guys think we are playing out here huh? You didn’t grow up in a bad neighborhood? The streets are a muthafcka
@@elyenny714 so your argument is that parents should be able to limit instruction to OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN because they’re too lazy to give instruction at home?
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 instructions on what exactly? Sex Ed is fine for an appropriate age. Man you really sound like you have a white liberal savior complex.
He's either being disingenuous or stupid about the consequences of this vague legislation.
How is it vague? 🤣 have you even read the bill?
@@brandond5963 I read the quote of the bill at 00:28 that the legislator is on the show discussing.
Loved her questions - straight forward.
I would like to know, how many pedagogues and psychologists were engaged in the “research” and elaboration of this bill?
0 bc no one credible signs off on this type of pseudoscience.
It doesn't take a PhD in psychology to see the harm in imposing gender confusion and sexual experimentation on kindergartners. I'd wager the bill's opposition is rooted more in pedophilia than in pediatrics or psychology.
@@howdabowdix Yes.
I'm a clinical psychologist, there is a reason the number of people "identifying" as lgbt has gone up from negligible to 20 percent.
These are babys. There sexual identity or asking of them to define it outside the identifiers they are born with is sick, like grooming.
I’d question anyones motive who was against this bill!!!!
czcams.com/video/YqPO4Drhz0o/video.html .
If they taught kids math, science, reading, history, civics, social studies, art, music and sports, there wouldn’t have time to waste on this garbage.
Make Florida gay again! 🏳️🌈
He actually has a point 🧐🤔
Why did she feel the need to prelude a narrative. Its so tiring to listen to media this corrupt.
this guy is ! media is telling a story ...no where in america are they banning GAY until 4 th grade !
Another plus to home school our children. I don't want my children to be taught by Nazi's
Define "Nazi," Jethro.
One argument they made was that it is not happening in those early grades… but they don’t want a law to prevent it…. What does that tell you??
2:00 - "Not one of them mentions that the word 'gay' is never in the bill."
But the bill does prohibit "discussion about sexual orientation".
This guy should be ashamed for this pedantic dodge.
Have you actually read HB 1557 "Parental Rights In Education"? Where does it say "gay" in the bill? You may also want to look up the word "pedantic" to ensure you are using it as defined.
@@DRAKKENFIRE22 As my response points out, this is pedantry. "Gay" is a sexual orientation, and the bill prohibits "discussion about sexual orientation".
This is like saying that the constitution "Doesn't mention guns anywhere" (because it only says 'arms').
ok groomer
Well said!
@@inotterwords6115 and straight is a sexual orientation so y don’t i go cry again they not teaching straightness🤦🏿♂️use ur fucking head
What about my government tell me not to say Gay? back in my days in the Army, queers kept their beliefs to themselves. We need to pray for these people 🙏
3rd graders are too young to be worrying about who they're attracted to, or what gender they want to be. Save that conversation for when puberty starts
The problem with this bill is that no matter what it says it is liable for misuse on the part of accusatory parents and/or the administration. Let's say that an LGBTQ teacher passively mentions their spouse and the children are confused by this. Would explaining that people who like the same gender exist and that it's okay to do so be considered educating them on sexuality? Could that be twisted and misrepresented by homophobic parents/administrators to fire said teacher? We cannot simply look at proposed bills as they are but how they can and will be used when considering their legality.
The only problem with this bill is that you have people who are trying to teach kids about sexuality at a young impressionable age and they take offense at the idea that they shouldn't be allowed to.
"Don't talk about sex in front of kids" is not a hard thing to do for the vast majority of the population.
@@phoenixblanco3892 That's the thing, this bill is vague enough to where no matter it's stated intent it can and will be misused under the intent to suppress LGBTQ expression and education. There will no doubt be a legal grey area in what exactly this bill entails for what teachers can and can't teach, and I don't see it lasting long before we see a supreme court case involving it. Sex and sexuality are two different things, but the legal distinction in this case can be blurred between them.
@@brycebitetti1402 Look, I hate the government.
But seriously, there's not many ways to use "You can't teach kindergartners about sex" negatively.
3rd graders are not a part of the population you need to be exposing to "LGBTQ expression and education" and getting angry about that is just going to make more and more people want to isolate their children from you.
@@brycebitetti1402 The Bill isn't vague. It specifically targets curriculum in the class. It doesn't ban any such talks in the class rooms. It doesn't ban the children from saying or asking things or the teacher answering things. It does prevent the teachers from teaching a class about it. It also requires that teachers inform the parents about a vairety of things as this isn't a "don't say gay bill" nor is it a "anti groomer bill" this is a "parents rights" bill.
Seriously this was all in a south park episode about the gay scout leader. People are so fuckin scared of people who are different than them.
OMG! What happened to education? Just teach the basics. Stop with the whole political crap! Looks like home school is the best options.
Joe Harding would know about false narratives, wouldn't he?
I'd prefer a Don't say Trump bill. If we all quit paying attention, maybe he'd shut up.
I’m having a gay ole’ time watching these two groups fight over what’s right and what’s wrong.
one group is fully freaked
czcams.com/video/YqPO4Drhz0o/video.html .
Right and wrong is all a matter of perception.
@@Macgyver46 no. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
@@JJ-cb6co as you prove my point.
I wish we could say F word, but gay people think we're talking about them, the world doesn't revolve around you my dude. I LOVE the F word, it's the best word ever, it has so much energy behind it, but we've been robbed of the word. Those bundle of sticks, I love them so damn much. I love them bundles of sticks.
Why are you going against God’s law haven’t you seen what he done to
Prophit Loots people “ Dead Sea”
Why he Send an angel to flip that Town upside down and why ?
I identify as someone that doesn’t like others to talk about laws so please quit airing this stuff.
CURRICULUM it's easy to say 😬
he has a lisp. he likely had a speech impediment
This is the stupidest thing ever, kids are hearing this in these grades on the playground. Wouldn’t you rather your child hear it from a trustworthy source? I know I would, the information they get on the playground is mostly false. When will people understand, gay people are born gay. Period. It shouldn’t be thought of something that is “wrong” or “inappropriate.”
Furthermore, I feel the same about sex education. Sexuality and our bodies is not something that children should be taught is “shameful” or “bad.” People need to face facts, your children are learning about this stuff somewhere, and it’s probably not the soundest of information.
I’m willing to bet the mass majority of young children don’t think much of sexuality
Whats your point tho?
That schools are the best place to learn "truth"
As many lies have been taught in public school curriculums makes this whole debate laughable
That's the thing though, your opinion on what is a trust worthy source vs what actually is are not the same thing. I wouldn't consider a mentally unstable adult a trust worthy source. Especially ones that want to push this type of information onto kids this young. You can't just wish away gender disphoria and shove it under the rug becasue of some garbage psudo science.
@@carloswilson299 What’s laughable is that you’re asking me what the point is. If you can’t deduct the point from my comment, that’s a “you” problem (maybe you should go back to school?🤔).
Those trusted sources are the parents, end of story
I can already see a student discussing his sexuality with a guidance counselor then he tries to tell his parents and the parents blame the media and guidance counselor for the reason their son is gay and sue the school for 10 million.
kindergardeners being aware of their sexual orientation and ... what ... the teacher should talk about this? ok groomers.
00:37. OMG!!!!!!! This reporter FINALLY asked the question that matters!!!! No one else I have seen was smart enough to ask this very important question👏👏👏👏👏👏
You seem to not understand any Context, tbh.
For once, the Vagueneess of the Terms in the Bill is literally purposedly made to be harmful-as-all-h-ll-and-back-and-some-more, but that'S not the End. You apparently need it, so let me make an overexaggerated Example so you can maybe understand: Imagine Jeff Bezos letting his WOrkers sign a contract that uses
the Vague Concept of Problem and the vague Concept of Counter-Measurement in the sentence 'If theres ever a Problem with the Worker, Counter-Measurements can be freely decided by Bezos to solve the Problem. Sounds innocent and helpful enough, until you he takes-away your baby and grooms-it to become a Worker that never asks for Pay and he's allowed to f-ing do that cause the Workers Cat misbehaved and thats a Problem. Vaguely.
And yet, this Bill doing the exact, identical same thing is NOT EVEN the whole Problem - do you BEGIN to understand why Millions over millions of lgbtq-people and -youtubers call this Bill terrifying?
Democrat play book on social media-
1. Ignore the subject matter of the comment
2. Follow 1 and blame trump or reference trump
3. Follow 1 and call the person racist
4. Follow 1 and call the person a Russian bot/spy
5. When hit with facts and/or reality, do not respond or respond with lunacy
What are you talking about? The last president would do that. I think comments like that means you hate all grey ppl. That is unless you're a 🇷🇺🤖. BIRDS AREN'T REAL. (Did I get them all?)
Republican playbook
1. Same
2. Hilary and hunter biden
3. Socialist
4. Immigrant
5. Same
True debate died in 2015. Now we all just act like children pretending we're grown.
So if I'm white but identify as black that makes me black??
Pls stop lying. There is no don't say gay bill. What do we care about activist labelling it that? How are we going to have a discussion about this bill and what it actually does?
This is not a thing! There is no sexual orientation curriculum in grammar school. You people are responding to a political campaign. And by the way if you plan to talk about curriculum you need to learn how to pronounce it.