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- Florida teenager Jack Petocz organized statewide student walkouts in protest of a bill that critics say would be harmful to LGBTQ+ youth in Florida.
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I HAVE A VERY RADICAL IDEA. HOW ABOUT WE ONLY USE SCHOOLS TO TEACH CHILDREN SKILLS, FACTS, AND DEVELOP THEIR TALENTS. SO THEY CAN BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS WHEN THEY GROW UP
If school was just about learning skills and facts, then there would be no problems at all with home-schooling or virtual schooling. But school is also about learning social skills, connecting with peers, developing a unique identity, learning to function in a controlled environment, having the opportunity to push boundaries, and gaining independence. All of which are greatly benefited by increasing representation and teaching kids that their identities are valid and don't need to be questioned or ridiculed.
@@Vesmir789 Social skills aren’t for school, school is for the workforce. Learn your social skills by going to the fucking park after school
But don't teach them how to socialize and get along with others and develop empathy and understanding?? Sounds great. Why not just do away with children altogether and get robots instead. Putz.
@@kenb3552 empathy and understanding develop with socializing which can happen in any type of group. Doesn’t have to be a school group. Sports, after school programs, going outside and talking to people? Crazy concept. We used to actually make friends with people around us who didn’t go to our school.
@@Vesmir789 I thank God that you were not my teacher.
So let me get this straight? They want 5 year olds to know what sexuality is even though they don't even know how they were conceived?
no ... but if by chance that the subject does come up, like if susie asks why jimmy has two mommies, or whatever, then the teacher doesn't have to worry about breaking the law in order to properly explain it ... and a 5 year old is the complete end of one side of the range, but of course, you already knew that, didn't you ... this law can, by the way it is vaguely written, impact students of any age
@@radd696 You don't have to explain how sexual orientation works in depth to acknowledge a student has parents of the same sex.
"Some people have two daddies" is a lot different of an explanation than a nonsenseical and inappropriate explanation of gender and sex to an impressionable child. The left is seeking to indoctrinate children in to LGBT activist beliefs. They have exposed their agenda and are now trying to perform a Motte and Bailey tactic.
@@spitxfire99 who is doing this? Do you think 5 year olds are being taught about anal sex?
@@spitxfire99 but they’re not even allowed to do that. They’re not allowed to say that because of this bill. That would be considered talking about it. The teacher would get fired over that comment alone the school could be sued.
@Rusty Tiger what if the kid asks the teacher and not their parent? The teacher has to say ask your parents, right? What if that kid asking is gay? That alone will make them feel shame.
I feel like most students walking on on “protest” just wanted to get out of class for a day.
That or the teachers are just telling the kids how to act and giving them false information.
And they really are completely clueless as to what the bill represents.
I can guarantee that's the case for a fact. I remember being in high school and witnessing protests similar to this and almost half the kids had no idea what any of the protests were actually about. They were just running around the halls making random noises, standing up on cafe tables and fucking with people in class that are just trying to learn. They all just wanted an excuse to fool around and skip class.
99% of the time yes
Okay
Thanks ABC News, for not even knowing what is in the bill before you go on air. Its always nice to see the media helping to shape the youth of today with misleading stories and the acceptance of only those they deem worthy.
ABC & the word News don't even go together.
It's a law that prevents teachers from responding to any questions about homosexuality and if a child comes to a teacher about it, they must report it, right? What do you think the law is?
@@sunshinelizard1 if a child come to you about it, you change the subject, or tell them it's inappropriate to talk about. Gee that was hard.
@@sunshinelizard1 incorrect. One and one’s are in fact allowed. Read the bill.
@Abel Dan Duran It starts there and then it moves on. Teacher, I want to talk about flags, pride, world events, 9/11, and the response will "that's a conversation for your parents." High school students can't just rely on Flordian parents to guide them.
Pretty sure regular working people don't give a flying f**k for this bs crap
Until their children come home from school (while they were busy working and paying taxes to support the bloated school system) and have been taught to question the gender they were born with...
@@pmczapczara5332 who said they will ever be to busy for their kids, kids are our top priority we can't let them be Brain washed to some dumb crap way too soon they'll get to that in high school let them enjoy being kids
@@diegoramos5410 agreed. We see this the same. Regular working people want schools to teach, but not brainwash their kids. Glad to see this pass. Need it nationwide.
anyone calling it a "don't say gay bill" is either wildly misinformed or a child predator
Anyone calling people he doesn't know "child predators" probably f*cks his own kids.
@@purityballs7446 found the pedo apologist👆
Groomers gonna groom
Most people who cry about this bill on youtube have obviously never read it
I think the bill is pretty gay
They have, they're just angry that they won't be allowed to groom children.
And I bet you have.... haven't you FJ?
@@americansoapproductstm8206 Yes, because no straight person has ever groomed any one in the history of humankind, ever. Do you get your facts from cracker jack boxes too?
@@chrismann3933 "But straight people do it too!" 🤓
HS kid has the “OMMM” habit. Kindergarten through 3rd grade doesn’t need sexual orientation of any kind…….crazy that this has to become a law.
I agree I mean all I am saying I have several gay piers and they always push down my beliefs just for theirs to rise.
It's actually not happening. More solving of a problem that never existed.
@@awoken9262 Are you being facetious? Just want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
@@awoken9262 I have never seen a gay pier. Every pier I have seen has been pretty straight. Some are a little crooked, but I have never seen a gay one. How can you tell?
@@patsylennon7335 "The anonymous" is clearly a graduate of the US "publick skool sistum" that routinely churns out illiterates.
This should really be called the stop indoctrinating and corrupting our children bill!
Way too many religious parents in Florida for that to ever be supported
I’m 16 and I can see a lot of people being indoctrinated, I’ve lost so many friends because of this, I’m straight, and their gay so they cut me out of their lives. The republicans gotta take a stand against these libs they are ruining America 💀
Let's leave corrupting children to religion and religious nuts.
🤦♂️Teaching that certain types of people exist isn’t indoctrination. If you consider that indoctrination, then you should stop their indoctrination of kids to make them cishet
No, it shouldnt.
I am so comforted to see most people in the comments see through the lies of establishment media! and yes I'm looking at you too abc
The media wants you to be lazy, sad, depressed, confused, and reliant on the federal government to survive.... Remember this every time a story comes out
I mean, does anyone trust the media at this point? We all know they're nothing but parasites.
I am so comforted that young people are getting old enough to vote so we can push all your antiquated views into the history books where they belong. The world is changing, either get with it or get left behind
@@Vesmir789 I'm comforted knowing your "progressive" views aren't favored by the majority of the country, or the world. It's very nice seeing these genderless, race obsessed leftists being seen for what they really are.....a problem, not "progressive".
@@Vesmir789 AMEN! Well stated. Peace.
Anyone ever READ the actual bill? It doesn't say DON'T SAY GAY. Nothing close.
But I guess asking students to read to asking too much
I know people are idiots these days. They believe anything people hear.
They're paraphrasing. It's what these student activists are calling it. They never claimed the bill actually said that.
You're correct. It doesn't use the phrase "Don't Say Gay". What it does is ban discussing sexual orientation and/or gender identity among students in Kindergarten through third grade. If you want to argue a technicality that the bill doesn't include the phrase "Don't Say Gay" then I think you're kind of missing the point.
Of course it doesn't say Don't Say Gay. Until it does. Just like the books being banned across the country that don't say books about race, homosexuality and gender issues. But they are about those subjects. Meanwhile, the bible is still allowed in libraries despite its depiction of rape, murder and incest. These bills are worded ambiguously so that once passed, their real intent is revealed. As a gay man, I know exactly what these various bills around the country are trying to do. They will eventually fail as the student walkouts are showing. These kids aren't easily fooled like, unfortunately, the parents who support this legislation.
@UCk5thEU3sDfxvkVCOEK8_dg The irony in this if you happen to be an ardently religious person who brought up your children in the same religion.
It was a parental transparency bill, that stated that the curriculum must be shared with parents, and essentially banned discussions of lustful orientations in elementary schools, which could be considered grooming, since children are easily impressionable
For pre-K to 3rd grade
In that case. PASS IT.
Do you really believe that? Did it ban discussion of straight marriage? But I bet you believe it banned discussion of same sex marriage. Funny how straight people getting it on is okay, but when it's gay people it becomes "lustful orientations".
@@mahaffer71 " or in a manner that is not age appropriate", which means it applies to any grade that they want it to. Learn to read a complete sentence and not to stop when you see what you wanted to see.
@@NomadSoul76 You leave out some parts you change the whole meaning. Here is the part PreK-3rd grade
Page 4
97 3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third
98 parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur
99 in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age
100 appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in
page 5
101 accordance with state standards.
Hey...ABC...you do know that anyone can download a copy of the bill's text right?...that it is not some guarded secret as to the actual wording of the bill?...I have heard so much about this bill...today...I downloaded a PDF of the bill in it's current form...as a former teacher...as a gay man...I am not...in any way offended by this bill...if anything...this bill is needed...I have no idea what has happened in our schools...I have been out of education since 2006...but there seems to now be a dynamic in which parents are seen as the enemies...that was not the case when I was a teacher...also...this bill is geared more toward K-3 students...I taught K-2 Special Education...and I can tell you that this bill would not have been a problem for me at all when I was a teacher...because sexual orientation...that was not part of my K-2 lesson planning anyway...the kids would have been too young to understand that material...not that I would have found it appropriate to teach that to children so young anyway...I question any teacher who finds that subject matter to be appropriate for young children to learn...if your child's teacher is of that mindset...it would be best to pay close attention to that educator's motives...so...again...as a former teacher...as a gay man...I support the text of this bill...I would recommend reading the bill...rather than taking "factual" information from the news...as it seems the news does not care about that fact that the word "gay" is not once mentioned in the text...also worthy of note...there is a section in this bill that allows the school district to withhold information from parents...if there is a real threat of abuse...or harm to the student...should the parents learn the information...in the case of a student telling a teacher their sexual orientation status...so...again...reading the bill may provide a better understanding of the actual bill rather than having someone telling you what to believe...the unfortunate thing...the true abuse to the students...are the teachers who are supporting these walkouts and protests...when what they should be doing is having any student with a question...read the bill's text...and...once read...answer any questions that the students may have...so that the students can form their own...individual...opinions on the matter...there is the real issue...what would happen...if our students actually were able to form their own opinions...
Thanks for your comment on this!
Overuse of ellipses.
@@CH67guy1 yes...it is my signature when writing...i am glad that out of my entire opinion...that is what you retained
@@DJohnsonappraiser4laproperty thank you for granting my comment your time sir...all the best!
A voice of reason in the storm! Kudos sir. I see it as an anti-grooming bill. Pedro’s and Demokkkrats hate that. Oh, let’s be inclusive and not forget the MAPS…
Why does sexuality of any kind need to be taught to pre k to third grade?
Indoctrination.
Disgusting
Because they're trying to dumb down the culture... They want the next generation to be sad, depressed, confused, afraid, and unable to succeed independently when they become adults. Proof?
1.) Masking children: implying to them the air is toxic and they should be afraid of other people.
2.) Telling children they can be whatever gender they want: then when they get older, their natural biology doesn't align with what gender they "chose" after indoctrination, which causes severe psychological and physical issues when they become adults.
3.) Attention destroyers like TikTok and Instagram Reels - not only do these apps lower their attention span, but they give children a false reality of people. These apps make children think that everybody else is a prefect 10/10, rich and famous - which lowers children's self-esteem.
4.) Refusing to teach about the Bible - which talks about how society succeeds thru the traditional masculine man and feminine woman bond.
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I'm a male in my 20's... Didn't let the indoctrination system get to me.
@@zyx777zyx 100% true. God bless
@@robertfalfa8939 no way to early that’s high school or 8th grade stuff and and when your 6
This country is in deep trouble.
Don’t worry. Putin declared war on Woke World Order. He will win
The bill prevents the school from teaching “Gay” anything until after 3rd grade.
HELLO PEOPLE 3RD GRADE!!!! I’ll never vote Democrat until the day I die. After that I’m sure I will a few times.
Lol
🤣
Plenty did vote DemonRatic in Nov 2020 after having died. Vote early and often, Dumbokratic cadavers... 🧟🧟🧟
They are not advocating teaching sex acts to 3rd graders (gay or straight) but just banning words. I know you are mostlikely not secure in your own sexuality to comment on this but what happens to the 3rd Grader with two Moms or two Dads - they are no never speak of their parents??? Florida needs to wake up and see the forest through all the trees.
I'm a teacher. The youngest child who has openly called themselves gay to me, was six. By third grade, it isn't uncommon for a student to discuss their sexual preferences in front of their peers. My four year old son attends school with a four year old girl who is openly Transgender and insists upon a feminine appearance. I live and teach in a red state. Many of these kids come from Christian homes. Every Disney film primes kids for heterosexual relationships from an early age. There is a wider spectrum out there. You aren't going to stop childhood recognition of their own preferences, but you will stop teachers from being able to show support, especially in the face of exclusion or bullying.
There is no "dont say gay bill" stop spreading misinformation
it's done intentionally to divide people and mislead them.
@@KayDejaVu no… it’s stops this topic from being discussed in pre-k through 3rd grade settings. Your honestly moronic
@@IheartRobloxSM Did you miss the part that says "or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate"? I mean, it's easy for it to be missed, it was only in the same sentence that specified k-3. But it means that the bill provides a wildcard that allows such subjects to be forbidden for any age and any grade of school.
An awful lot of people want to boast about how they can't read, apparently. Again, it's in the same sentence, but an awful lot of people apparently missed it. Maybe they're not the best ones to comment on education when basic reading comprehension still eludes them.
@@NomadSoul76 you literally y just mentioned my name for now reason
Why is the media lying about this bill?
Why do people think they have the right to talk about sexual topics to children behind parents back? It’s weird.
I’m sorry but it’s not other people ‘s business.
Because according to Communists your kids are not yours... they are state property
cant make a real argument against something lie about out...
@@whiteandright1958 neither is the truth. Children are their parents responsibility, not their parents property. Some people have trouble with that distinction.
@@NomadSoul76 I Never said children were parents property. I said the STATE views them as THEIR property.
Re read my post, Poindexter
No where does the bill say "do not say gay"
Newsflash - laws are often written with an intended consequence without explicitly stating it.
@@electron6825 NEWSLASH- media lies, titles can be mislead look at the Patriot act. Nothing about this bill is preventing someone from being gay. No preK-3rd grade need to be taught anything sexual or even BS gender identity. Which is ironically is sexist.
@@electron6825 I mean every bill trump made was racists despite the overwhelming massively positive impact he made on minorities over his years in office…I feel you on that take
@@lawrence8146 No.
@@electron6825 How does it feel to be BURIED under hundreds of commenters with more common sense than you? :-)
High School kids have no say in how we educate 3rd graders.
Industry and high tech employers keep wondering, “Why are these college graduates entering the workforce so unprepared and delusional?”
Thank the American education system.
cite your sources
I can't tell if you're talking about the Republicans who are busy passing bill after bill that limits what teachers are allowed to teach, or teachers who teach their students that LGBT people are just people who deserve the same respect as straight people. The GOP is literally trying to make it illegal to teach any history of the country that makes white people feel bad, but some people seem to think that the real threat is teaching basic respect for all students, no matter their sexual orientation.
@@NomadSoul76 Stopping teachers from racially segregating students and convincing them that their race makes them oppressed or oppressors is not "trying to make it illegal to teach any history of the country that makes white people feel bad", outlawing the exposure of eight-year-olds to genderbender ideology doesn't dehumanize gays, and you know it. Cut the crap.
@@howdabowdix sure, but that's not what the law say. The laws actually ban making people feel bad about their race. The laws literally place feelings over facts. I can tell you're very outraged about this but that doesn't change the content of the laws..
@grand nagus destructive lifestyles? Now what would you be implying with such terminology?
Let's be adults shall we? Of course you mean LGBT people. So what's destructive about being lgbt? Well if you're a student and you have bigoted parents you have a lot to fear from them, but the destruction comes from them. Now we're talking about a law that could force teachers to out such a student to their bigoted parents. But the destructive lifestyle is the fault of the parents, not the student.
There's nothing fundamentally destructive about being gay. Some people such as yourself can't accept it and will resort to any slander to justify their primitive bigotry. But the fact is you're justifying legislation designed to harm students and then are trying to blame the students for the harm the state is visiting upon them.
Lgbtq curriculum violates the religious beliefs of students as well. Same as religious curriculum would violate the beliefs of students as well. 🙄
@Joshua Saltzman Oh yea, why can you not respect others beliefs?
Gay people exist in history dumbass and always have. Just because it goes against your petty CHRISTIAN beliefs does not mean it can’t be taught because ITS COMMON IN HISTORY! Read a textbook
@@overlandecuador8893 How exactly can you respect a belief that states someone doesn't exist? That accuses said someone as being mentally ill?
Yep! The cannibal left's religion of Bible hatred is taking over. They are trying to change children's sex, now they want to mutilate kids before they even reach puberty, to stop boys' natural physical advantage. Cannibal leftists are sacrificing children to their religion of Bible hatred.
@@Valiere2024 There is nothing in this bill that says that.Pkease read the bill. You will then see they are playing you for a sucker which is what the left does. They are depending on you NOT to read the Anti-grooming bill. I’m sure you are against grooming K-3 children, correct?
Absolutely horrible reporting, just a one way street
Clueless media. Here are some questions an actual journalist would ask. "What is in the bill that would cause harm to you and others like you? I mean the actual words in the bill. "
Not having representation in school. Next question.
@grand naguslook a wild dumbass, can't believe there are people who think being gay is a choice despite the multinational evidence saying otherwise.
It forces teachers to out them to their parents. If they're hiding it from their parents it may well be because their parents are abusive or would be abusive if they were outed by state mandate. Yes, actual words in the bill do that. It will happen. We need only wait.
@@NomadSoul76 Yet you don't bother to include words from the actual bill in your response. So the question still remains unanswered. Did you bother to read the bill? Did you notice this....This subparagraph does not prohibit a
92 school district from adopting procedures that permit school
93 personnel to withhold such information from a parent if a
94 reasonably prudent person would believe that disclosure would
95 result in abuse, abandonment, or neglect, as those terms are
96 defined in s. 39.01.
@@gscurd75 but all it takes is one bigoted administrator who wants to punish the gays to negate that passage. If a student wants to hide something so fundamental about themselves from their parents that alone is a pretty good reason to believe that they have a reason for doing it. If you were concerned about the students you could introduce legislation that might require them to see the services of a mental health professional, but the thing is mental health professionals know that these bills are poison for children. So they don't do that and instead they give the responsibility to bureaucrats who can be motivated more by politics and they can for the well-being of their students.
School is a place to learn……not try to push your sexuality or political agenda on others. God I’m sick and tired of these idiots. A good friend of mine is gay, and he absolutely DESPISES these idiots and their dumb protests.
But pushing heterosexuality on gay children is ok then ?
Sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity shouldn’t be political at all. People like you made it that way. Having one gay friend who’s been indoctrinated into feeling like they get to have an opinion on others lives isn’t the flex you think it is. The idiots are the ones trying to hide the fact that hetero default isn’t the only option. Teaching children it is okay no matter what kind of family you come from shows them we live in an accepting world. People like you tell them it’s not okay, and jack the suicide rate because kids are afraid to be themselves. The science, the facts that people scream about all of the time prove how uninformed your statement is and for people who scream facts don’t care about your feelings, you don’t even listen to that.
@grand nagus broken 😅
School is for teaching Math, English, History, etc
Not indoctrination’s
And for gods sake civics!!! these people dont understand a damn thing about government or the constitution... the amount of people in the comments talking about this being "unconstitutional" is sad
Yes !! Let's use children for political agendas and do everything we can instead of teaching them anything important
your exaggeration shows your desperation
Sex, sexual orientation, gender identity shouldn’t be political.
Word!!!
Johnny doesn't need body dysphoria affirmation, he needs to know how to read and write.
@@radd696 your opposition shows your willingness to groom children. Bet you could be a close friend of the Clintons.
there's a war going on and y'all putting energy towards this nonsense ????
This bill is a match lighting the fuse of civil war in the United States. When the sea comes for Florida, and the mongrels flee the encroaching ocean the rest of us will remember how they vote.
It's funny how you make this argument about people trying to protect LGBT students, but you have no problem with the legislators who are spending their time trying to hurt those same students.
“Student activists”…read “children”. And as a parent I wouldn’t want my K-3 age child hearing anything about gender, gender identity, or gender benders. There’s plenty of time for that later.
So do you agree that all talk of men, women, husbands, wives, and anything else remotely relating to the subject should be banned from those grade ranges? You're in favor of teachers being banned from addressing the children by saying "boys and girls"?
Let me guess. You're still in favor of talk about all of the subjects you mentioned as long as it's talk that you agree with.
did you even listen to Jack? he speaks like no child
@@NomadSoul76 triggered
I applaud your very progressive notion that children in grades K-3 shouldn't be indoctrinated into any gender constructs. They shouldn't be forced to wear gendered clothes, associate with gendered interests or activities, or be shoehorned into any stereotypical behaviors associated with gender. Let kids explore their identities, and learn early on that it's okay to dress and act differently. Thank you for being such a loud and proud gender-positive voice :)
@@NomadSoul76 Absolutely
Imagine if these activists actually took 10 minutes to research the things they're so outraged about....
lol
What sort of research can you do on a smartphone...
@@AuroraColoradoUSA Do you go to the Britannica from 1998 at the local library for your research Mr. Genius?
10 minutes... what do they do with the remaining 9 lol. This thing is so cut and dry i dont understand how people dont look at it and turn around to abc like WHY are you calling it the "dont say gay" bill... what else have you been lying about?!
@@Larkon979
I have a high power PC pushing a 32" monitor. My American neighborhood has 2 different gigabit Internet providers and one sub gigabit provider.
@@AuroraColoradoUSA That gets you to all those news sites we go onto our phone 2 seconds faster! WTF we talking about bro!! 😂🤣
I swear the MSP is beyond any ability to tell the truth.
I can’t tell if it was always like that or if I just took notice or if it has gotten that bad since Covid. Either way it beyond sickening
They act so retarded like there iq level is only 20 i think the media needs special ed classes
@@mitchgarbeno3788
"I can’t tell if it was always like that"
It's always been that way, but... Used to be, they were the ONE WAY media. Now they are getting some feedback. My solution is to MUTE everything but the important speakers. Been doing that since LONG before the Internet. Nowadays it's even easier since we can skip around in a video. And some videos obviously have no value whatsoever. I usually just dive into the comments... lol.
All these spoiled brats finding bullshit to cry about meanwhile kids the same age in Ukraine right now are carrying AKs and defending their homeland from the fucking Russian military. These kids know absolutely nothing about what truly is a threatening crisis to cry about.
As my Grandfather used to say, "If you want to upset a Liberal, tell them a lie, if you want to upset a Conservative, tell them the truth".
I never fully appreciated this saying, until these past 5+ years of it being proven to us on a daily basis.
Age 6 to 9 year old kids DO NOT NEED a PUBLIC SCHOOL confusing them with gender, masturbation or anything in between.
As parents, we all kist need to yank our kids out of public schools. Hem them crumble from lack of students.
The pandemic has shown us that joining clusters of homeschool children is as effective as public school.
Use a “class” of 5. Take turns with the other mothers or fathers in groups you know or meet and select accordingly and then school on. We do not need federal or state interfering in how we raise our children.
Good idea! We can increase the average intellectual capacity of the public K-12 population.
"kist need to yank our ....hem them crumble..." exactly what school were you learned at?
@@GrammyGray638 probably typed that on their phone. Guess autocorrect has never fucked you. Fucking Karen.
@@imperialamerican8209 Your autocorrect changes typos into more gibberish? Sounds like you got a defective phone.
@@imperialamerican8209 😆
Nice ABC you don’t say anything about the Content of the bill because that would ruin your narrative. Protecting kids age 5-7 is ideal as this is one of the most malleable times in ones life
and you ignore the fact the bill had been changed- look it up. the bill would have forced teachers to out students.
Unless they're LGBT, and then apparently it's better to pretend that they don't exist, amiright? And yes, it's possible to know by then. I was crushing on girls when I was 7.
@@NomadSoul76 dude if you think you need to teach 5-7 year old's about sex/gender/trans/gay you're fucked in the head
@@Jabaroo what do you think teaching them about it means? I know, people like you are obsessed about sex and think the only way you can talk about LGBT people is talking about graphic depictions of sexual practices. That's not what this means for that age group.
Do you think children of that age don't know about husbands and wives? They understand concepts such as relationships. And it's perfectly normal that some of the material they cover in class will deal with such concepts has husbands and wives and mothers and fathers. You know this, you know that discussion of this form of sexuality is age appropriate. But this law is designed to create the fig leaf of respectability for banning the discussion of husbands and husbands and wives and wives. And here you are helping to cover for the lie by pretending that the only way to talk about this is some sort of graphic sexual discussion.
But the thing is, you know better. You know that I can be as simple as acknowledging the while some students in class have mothers and fathers, some have fathers and fathers and some may have mothers and mothers. And the entire point of this law is forbidding that because it's designed to erase the existence of LGBT people. Because the thing conservatives have learned is that if they can't blind their children to the existence of LGBT people until they've had a chance to sufficiently demonize them, their children will realize that they are lying to them. All the slander that you see repeated in the comments here will be obvious to students who have spent even a little time around fellow LGBT students. So the law is designed to erase their existence and punish them for daring to make their existence known.
The bill says it doesn't affect the high school students, I thought they can read.
Apparently, neither can the teachers (or the journalists)
What assurance is there that this is true? If the individuals feel it is vague to them and have concerns, legislators should talk to them and rewrite it.
@@Valiere2024 What's "vague" about a bill that applies to students in kindergarten through 3rd grade? It's quite clear to most people.
@@Valiere2024
They don't think it's vague.
Just like you: they didn't bother to read it.
All I can say if the child isnt yours then you have no right to teach something a parent doesn't wish for their child to know without there consent. If you do then you're basically taking away parental rights
I think thats the point.They want your child too distracted with nonsense instead of learning something meaningful, and they want to make sure THEY teach your kid instead of you. That way they have full control of the mental development of your child
i mean... to an extent... if i were like i dont want my child taught math... theres gonna be a problem.
@@JasonEllingsworth
You put them in the school, and gave the responsibility to the teachers. And when they do their job, you want to micromanage them. If you don't like what the teachers do, then I would recommend homeschooling. Because with all the noise being made, guess what the kids are talking about now?
@@JasonEllingsworth time to homeschool. Gays pay for public school kids far more than straight people, we sure as hell get a say otherwise exempt me from my property taxes.
AH yes, like if you dont want your kids to know about slavery, you should be able to stop the school right? God, republicans are such snowflakes.
I still have no f.ing clue after watching this what it means about this, "don't say gay bill". I do remember when gay people just wanted to fit in with everybody else. Didn't want to draw any attention to themselves. Just wanted to mix in harmony. Now it seems every time I turn around, your gay a.s.s. is in my face telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
Every gay person I ever met had to tell me all about it, when nobody was asking
Mike K
@@rickerhart907 😆 You're right. Sorry about that.
@@josephjones4968 Great comment Joseph and thank you.
I am confused. What exactly are they protesting?
Your sexuality doesn't need to be announced everywhere the only time people care is if you're dating.
Clearly you don't understand the repercussions of this bill.
Announcing sexualities like you’re imagining isn’t happening - this bill makes talking about sexuality illegal…that’s far different than respectfully letting someone live their life.
Homosexuality is no more or less sexual than heterosexuality. Your homophobia is making you think it is.
This bill confuses me because I cannot wrap my head around how the bill’s supporters get so offended by a gay person just existing and asking to be treated as a regular member of society…can you explain why that bothers you??
People like you are the reason we have a whole month and straight people don’t get pride. Because you like shoving the fact you can be loudly straight in other peoples faces without hate, then cry when lgbtq finally give you a taste of your own medicine. Yuck. You’re on the wrong side of history bud.
@@yuhboris304 If the bill confuses you, you should probably try reading it, rather than believing what ABC News tells you about it. It's only 3 pages.
I've been hearing a lot on the topic of the Florida's so called "Don't Say Gay" bill. Before for someone goes off half cocked, they should do a little research. The so called bill's name is completely absurd. I'm sure that this young man knows how to do some research and is capable of downloading the bill, if not, maybe his Grandparents will do so, so that he is enlightened.
@Joshua Saltzman Except that Tommy mentioning his "two dads" isn't a "discussion" of anything, much less sexual orientation. Nice try, though
@Joshua Saltzman Why would you have to continue that subject with a child? It's not something that is discussed and if the child brings it up..there are blanket responses and the teacher can discuss it with the parents. So they can explain, which is their responsibility and not a public school.
Do you have a child 9 years or younger in school?
They never said the bills name was literally "Don't Say Gay". They're paraphrasing based on the content of it.
@@Valiere2024 Hey Jonathan, can you read English? I stated the "So called "Don't Say Gay" bill. It's guys like you who try to pull pepper out of fly crap.
@UCYPbcYysQtWcQI__5MefFkA Thank you, your argument supports what I stated, people not doing their research, then going off halfcocked.
Lmao she literally introduced him as “openly gay” student 🤣🤣🤣
lol
He got exposed in 4k
What's wrong with that?
It's the only significant thing about him. Possibly why he's openly gay on the first place, because he feels insignificant.
@@ericsw03 But then he also started a massive protest protecting his rights
Always nice when the media is professional enough refer to a law using the nickname the Democrat party have it while somehow also ignoring the fact this affects kids in grades K-3! What teacher needs to bring up sexuality of ANY kind to 5-8yr Olds?
Why does the media think this is unreasonable?
It's like the riots, the more people doing it the less chance of getting caught. The child molesters are taking a stand so they can't be singled out.
Uh, no, the bill broadly states that any instruction relating to sexual orientation or gender identity can be banned if it is deemed "not age appropriate," which can and will be exploited by anyone who dislikes the existence of queer people. Teaching about sexuality and gender identity can AND SHOULD be done as early as 5 years old, in a manner that makes sense, since research has shown that children start to recognize gender stereotypes as early as 5. But even at the bare minimum, children in grades K-3 will come to school who have same-sex parents. In order to avoid legal trouble, a school would interpret this bill to say that a teacher is not allowed to formally recognize or explain to any student that same-sex couples exist. This can be very damaging for the child.
@@Vesmir789 You mean same gender couple don't you? Or does everything have to be about sex with you? Also it could be a non gender celibate couple altogether. So you are just a sex pervert.
@@Vesmir789 What might be 'damaging' is the fact that your 'parents' could not have possibly biologically produced you...and you realize eventually...dad and dad...are a FREAK SHOW!!
So let me get this straight: No one here knows what the Controvsy
is even about, yeah?
You literally lack all Context and you did the smart mature thing of... uhm... not asking
anyone who opposes the Bill WHY they do it... Ah... ok... yes... i see... ok...
...You dont even know WHYYYY millions of lgbtq-community-members
openly say this is a terrible, terrifying, terorrizing Bill.
You never listened to them or allowed them to explain themselves, which is amazing.
Amazing strategy!
MAN, WHY INFORM YOURSLEF WHEN YOU CAN WILDLY GUESS, huh? I love the Strategy!
No need to finish the context-GIVING video 'GOP vs Queer' that i vow and promise
will give you a new, better understanding.
As a student you would think he would want to LEARN what is actually in the Bill...do you all realize it is meant to protect our youngest children from having to be prematurely exposed to sexual information in schools?
Do you realize that the broad and vague wording of the bill allows for any discussions of sexuality or gender identity to be banned at any level? That LGBTQ+ families and children exist, but the children will be forced to deal with it on their own in school without the support of faculty or staff? That literally no one has ever proposed teaching young children about sex, but merely that some kids have same-sex parents, or that some kids may feel more like a boy or girl or somewhere in the middle and that's valid? Please, I beg you, find a SINGLE instance of anyone anywhere saying "let's start teaching 5 year-olds about sex." The idea doesn't exist, it's just classic right-wing fear-mongering rooted in bigotry.
the same young children that many, many parents ask "is that your boy/girlfriend" as soon as they form any friendship with someone of the opposite sex? Yea its not about not exposing them to info, its about preventing them from ALL info
He is just being used by a teacher who lied to him and is using him to push an agenda.
@@Vesmir789
How about we focus on teaching kids what is actually important which is the math, science, and English. We are so worried about gay this and straight that yet students can barely do basic math after their senior year.
It is amazing to know what the bill ACTUALLY covers compared to stories like this.
We are doomed 🤦 desantis is a boss and we need more like him to stop teaching elementary school students they can be a girl just because they are acting “feminine enough”. It’s great watching them destroy science and everything they taught us in school
@@zacharycavalear2643 because science doesn't change and what you learned in school is definitely still 100% accurate. Get off your high horse and look into actual research for once.
@@zacharycavalear2643 so now you believe in science?
@@zacharycavalear2643 nobody says that in reality. It'll be nice if you fools could engage with reality rather than arguing against straw men occasionally.
You mean like the part that says that it's banned in k-3 "or in a manner that is not age appropriate" which gives them a wild card to ban anything they want at any grade level?
Is he looking for elementary school kids ? The bill does not affect high schools
K-3rd grade
It effects all gay people. As a gay parent why should my child go to a school where saying the word gay is forbidden? Many gay people realize they are different at a very early age. How does banning the word gay make them feel as they develop and realize who they are? You have no idea what your talking about!
@@FG-hw5ep Have you read the freaking bill or just going on what the MSM is saying?
@@Amonaug He's going with what the MSM is saying...If he isn't? He's advocating for the sexualization of children 9 and younger.
@@Amonaug the LGBT community rallies around any subject they feel infringes on them. They magnify their numbers by banding together and screaming, even if they are way off base, like here. Well I say the 94% need to stop that practice.
Libs: Don't say gay 'Law' = CHILDREN K-3 not to be taught perversity
The level of bigotry in this comment section is not surprising, it's almost as if someone decided to watch these video with earplugs and missed the whole point the student was trying to say.
So.....you don't understand what bigotry means.
Great..........🤦
You actually think kids with no voting power to sway bills will have significant impact? They’re still minors at the end of the day. There’s a reason politicians didn’t respond to the children
@@wastedhawkbeverages5030 do you?
@@krewmoon8744
Yes.
And I'm not seeing it in the comments.
Could you cite an example that fits the definition?
@@timchow924 It is honestly sad that this is the case. Teens should have the right to say what's on their mind when it comes to politics and have every right to address any concerns about bills being passed. Especially when those bills will directly affect their health and safety say for example bills and laws regarding guns. Though I'm not saying we should give voting power to 5-year old's lol
People will defend their rite to go straight to HELL ... let them.
God gave man free will, but we will be punished for straying from the straight and narrow path.
This has no place being taught in schools at all. I hope it passes
Public sexuality is the root of much evil. It's the excuse they use for promoting perversion. It's nothing but VINDICTIVENESS, but they have used it effectively.
Haha I don’t think teachers teach this it’s the students that use freedom of speech to say what they want these people literally said they want to silence the community but weren’t they the ones that are protesting and speaking out loud interrupting kids education
All this bill says is you can't start grooming kids until the 4th grade. Disgusting!
You mean the “parental rights in education bill”? You mean the “no grooming” bill?
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@The Art Junky If they worked fine, teachers wouldn't be doing it. and they are doing it.
@The Art Junky Go watch (This preschool teacher talks to her kids about gender, race, and genitals) That teacher got fired just cause the parent saw the video and was shocked/angry. If she didnt post it on tiktok she wouldnt have gotten fired. Also you see in the video she was reviewed doing this and they approved
@The Art Junky Correct. One of the undeniable trends in the USA is an irreversible increase in diversity in the demographics of the country, and the "right" is very concerned about this. How does the right respond? It responds like all proto-fascist groups do, it attacks the very tenets it claims to uphold, in this case the constitution and right to free speech. And these attacks will continue to increase, since the demographics are not returning to the old ways any time soon. Fear is the central motivator for the "right".
I encourage everyone to actually read the bill and form your own conclusions. This is not a "Don't say gay" bill. That is a term coined by people who did not read the actual bill. The ONLY line in this bill that "prevents" teachers from discussing is this...
"3. A school district may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students."
So you think we should be talking about sex and gender with primary school children?
Before you get outraged.. please learn to read what's right in front of you. No kids will be "killed" with this bill. This merely keeps parents in the loop, AND parents can still give permission to the school if they so choose.
What is primary grade? HS Senior? Who interprets that? Garbage vague bill that targets hate. Soon FL will start restricting the conversation about race and women
I've read it. The problem, which you do not see, is that the language is so overly broad that a whole lot of what you personally think this does not cover - another person could have a legal basis to think that it does. Moreover, it is likely to have a chilling effect as teachers who do not want the risk of being privately SUED, will over extend the parameters and pretty much stay far away from anything that could even remotely get them into trouble. It is not as benign as you think it is - even if you are sincere in your belief.
You ask if people think we should be talking about sex and gender with primary school children, who said a conversation about LGBTQ individuals had to be about sex? As the kid mentions, reading a book where a character has “2 moms” doesn’t mention sex, does it? Does reading about a straight relationship beg the mention of sex?
@@Itsmarkyoung EXACTLY. The paranoid far right thinks everything is about SEX. As if their wedding rings are an announcement to the world - " Look everyone - we're screwing each other!"
"or in a manner that is not age-appropriate". So it's not limited to primary school children, is it? It creates a wild card that can be used to apply it to any grade.
And you think we don't talk about sex and gender to primary school children? You're not familiar with primary school teachers addressing their students as "boys and girls"? Oops, just talked about gender. And sexuality, yes, better not mention that you're married because if a female teacher talks about their husband that's a discussion of sexuality, isn't it? Forbidden! It is that broad, but that's not how it's going to be enforced, we all know that. It'll be used to fire a teacher who even acknowledges having a same sex partner. It will be used to fire a teacher who tells a student that it's wrong to bully another student for being LGBT.
You talk about keeping parents in the loop. Yeah, and it keeps abusive parents in the loop too. Kids will absolutely be killed as a result of this bill. For an LGBT student raised in a bigoted family, their best chance at survival is to keep it a secret. Hide it from their parents until they can afford to move out. But this bill outs them to their parents, because the sick bastards that wrote it want those children to suffer. They want to hurt LGBT students. The entire bill makes this clear.
And by the way, sex and primary school children? I'm guessing you went to school in a state with minimal to no sex education. My state had comprehensive sex education, I was getting sex education in primary school because sexual development is starting by then. This isn't unusual, this is how to responsibly educate children. States that don't teach comprehensive sex ed have higher rates of teen pregnancy among other things.
Gotta love when the news only reports on random people’s emotional opinions instead of facts.
When I was in school we didn’t talk about sex, gay or straight until 6th grade and it was all facts on how babies are made.
What is it these days..?
'Now children..when a person who thinks they're a forest animal loves a birthing person very much..zhe will put zhur vaginal penis into some other undefined orifice and then..errr...ohhh is it breaktime already?'
It only applies to this grade and under and doesn't say "you can't say" anywhere in the bill
This is a test, don't worry. This is a test.
Lefty loons don't care about truth or accuracy, as long as their lefty loon agenda is advanced.
Absolutely astute observation..
yeah. You can still say gay in school. You can still talk about your gay marriage as a teacher. A student can still talk about their two mommies in class. People are lying endlessly about this bill
The left named it this.
1st of all is for 3rd graders and under. I'm so sick of these people. Stop forcing your beliefs on other...m
yeah, religious people should stop forcing their religion beliefs on others
@@basiczachh3978 This has nothing to do with religion aside from the fact that this is exactly what the left bitches about religion for.... You wanna be gay be gay.... you dont need to be talking to my small child about his sexuality you fucking pervert
Shouldn't nominal "news" sites use the actual name of the bill rather than the false labeling activists use?
I bet you $10 he and the rest of the walkout didn't even read the bill. And if he did, I think he needs to be put on a list.
There are 2 types of people who are against this bill.
1. People who haven't read it and know nothing about it
2. People who want the state to raise and groom kids.
@@mahaffer71 why would people who "read the bill and agree with it" be against the bill.... i know youre trying but damn... this is why yall cant win an argument. when you try to come up with an original thought you just make our case for us.
@@Funnyfresh420 Either i misread your comment or its the edit you did. But yes i agree with your comment and deleting my comment since it doesn't make sense.
It's a good bill because sex ed shouldn't start until 11 or so, let alone encouraging third graders to cut off their genitalia. That's what this bill is about and 100% a good thing.
you people are so sick and stupid. you think teachers encourage young students to be Trans and to want surgery? This is why the GOP continues their nonsense, gullible idiots support them
actually teaching the idea of consent (which is part of sex ed) to young kids is a very good idea, as it allows them to recognise if they are being abused.
Kid's need to be taught earlier about good touch and bad touch so that they can turn you in.
SO these students that walked out believe that 5-8 year olds should be discussing gender issues in school? WOW
The anti grooming bill is an overwhelming success for children and parents.
Read the bill, kid. Unless you're in Pre-K to 3rd grade, it doesn't affect you.
Ya ima guess the kid don't rly care
You're missing the point. Placing rules at any ages implies that the lifestyle is wrong, or somehow "Adults only" and society has no problem throwing Christian sexual morality at pre-k to 3rd grade. Unless you want to completely sterilize any mentions of things like marriage from those age groups, then you gotta talk about gay ones too. Because lgbt exists, and it isn't going anywhere, no matter how many people the church burns at the stake.
And don't be mistaken, all of this hate comes directly from religion.
@@erisdiscordia5429 NO... its literally about not have sexual orientation conversation with little kids... kids who dont know what straight or gay is!!! they still think cooties are a thing! The only hate it coming from the left.... cause thats how they control dimwits like you
I find it strange how society wants to protect underage children from sexual exploits but want to introduce this topic to children. Why not wait until high-school sex education when a child has the opportunity to develop their own opinions naturally.
@@marcusgreene3943 that's the plan.
You know kids are fucking by high school, right? It's too late for sex ed then. States that limit it to that have higher rates of teen pregnancy than states that have comprehensive sex education starting BEFORE advanced sexual maturity.
And don't tell me this is about allowing them to develop their "opinions" (is it merely your opinion that you're straight?) on their own. You don't erase them from the curriculum by refusing to acknowledge that LGBT people exist if you want to give them the freedom to decide on their own. You admit that LGBT people exist, you admit what it means, and you admit that there's nothing wrong with being LGBT. Only by providing an environment with no pressure are they actually free to develop their own opinions. This law is designed to prevent that.
There are 2.7 million students in K-12 in Florida. His movement got 500 students to walkout of classes STATEWIDE. Doesn't sound like a very broad appeal to me...
Florida-grad. Russia comes to USA. It is important to raise responsible Gay people. Not to raise damaged Gay people - because eventually all damaged people (Gay or otherwise) end up homeless, dead, jailed, or on disability (or another form of welfare). It is during the early childhood years that homophobic slurs are first encountered - and like Freud said: "Give me the child at 7 and I will give you the man."
That's the best comment I've read. Productive LGBT people change the world for the better a gay man founded computer science and saved 17 million lives in WWII with his military intelligence work. A trans woman co-invented the computer chip in every telephone, computer, car, etc.
I’m not okay with any teacher teaching my son about sexuality. I’ll let him decide and learn that for himself.
@@marcusgreene3943 there is etiquette involved? I've been doing it wrong, then.
@@marcusgreene3943 so you're in favor of preventing anyone from acknowledging that husbands and wives exist in school?
How’s he gunna decide and learn for himself if he doesn’t know they exist?
@@marcusgreene3943 ask an lgbtq person, any one of them, teens or older how old they were when they knew they were gay. Its around six or seven median. My oldest told me at four she liked girls. She didn’t know anything about gay people. I live in a small conservative town. Didn’t have any gay friends. She had never seen a gay person. She still likes girls btw. I didn’t encourage but educated her that families came in all shapes and sizes. As she got older I answered questions she had without shaming her. And when it came to the sex talk I told her about hetero sex, and she wasn’t interested. So I answered any questions about lesbian sex she had.
@The Art Junky my wife is bisexual so my answer still stands I will let him know and learn that for himself what part of that don’t you understand?
Yeah sure. The First Amendment protects your walkout. But that doesn't mean you're right. This is only for K-3. No kid that young should be learning about anything like this anyways.
No it doesnt... at no point does it say youre free to abandon your obligation... i cant continue to get paid at work while i protest...
@@Funnyfresh420 - I meant their statement is right. Like a neo nazi group can protest peacefully but that doesn’t mean they’re right for being nazis. Just like these guys aren’t right for being against teaching CHILDREN about anything gay.
I really don't understand why they had to have a flag called pride that ruined EVERYTHING about rainbows!
Should be called “the anti grooming bill”.
Anti pedo bill
If you want to prevent grooming, raise your child without religion.
This is why home schooling children is best,this guy and some others are mad because parents want to have this talk with their kids.Teachers now a days want to indoctrinate children and push this crap on them at a very young age.
Really? Where is this happening? What school?
@@GrammyGray638 Seriously? 🙄
"Teachers now a days" Funny that you believe simple lies but fail to understand complex truths. Generalizations like that lead to the same kinds of generalizations that result in racism.
@@alreaud Which is the reason leftist “Generalizations” has resulted in the racist lie of white privilege.
"At one time, educators boasted that their role was not to teach students what to think but how to think. Today, their role is far too often to teach students what to think on everything from immigration to global warming to the new sacred trinity of 'race, class and gender.'" - Thomas Sowell
Simple question. Are you opposed to teaching children to share in kindergarten?
@@NomadSoul76 What does that have to do with “same sex” indoctrination of children?
@@NomadSoul76 weirdo
@@NomadSoul76 this is a trick often used, false equivalence. “Hey man if they can teach them how to share, why not teach them about sexuality”.
That’s the issue with the bill. They want to erasure LGBTQ+ people while pushing a Cishet agenda
What about people that support the bill? There are more people that support it. Interview them.
As if this kid knows what's in the bill. He just saw the headline and freaked out.
@@epicurusstan3223 you didn't watch if you think this is what happened.
Any sexuality or gender identity talk isn't age appropriate for people that can't even read, write or understand concepts properly yet. If I was living in Florida, I'd support this bill.
Everyone should support the anti-grooming bill. I don’t understand why the Left is so dead-set on sexualizing childhood.
I don't understand the right's fascination with child sexuality. This bill is a testing ground that they thought everyone could agree upon. Don't tell little kids about Gary's two moms. This disallows that kid to say that his parents are the same gender. It disallows the teachers and anyone else to say it, too. No one is teaching gay sex to kids, and the fact you'd think so speaks volumes about what other insane meth-head fantasies you've made up about Americans you disagree with politically. Seek professional help.
@@WorldWarIVXX No it doesnt dipshit.... 3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third
parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state guidelines... CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION...
@@Funnyfresh420 I love how you want us to believe that "classroom instruction" doesn't extend to everything a teacher says when dealing with a student except the formal lesson plan. If it only meant official school lessons and nothing else than it would do NOTHING about the "grooming" that the right says it's about. But I'll bet you want to claim that it's also about that.
@@NomadSoul76 if a teacher is having sexual conversation with a child thats already not allowed... this is to prevent things like drag queen story hour and telling children they can just PICK their gender
The purposeful misleading of the content of this Bill IS DISGUSTING! TELL IT LIKE IT IS! 5 year olds Being exposed to homosexual content!!!! THE NEWS IS SOOOO EVIL FOR GOING ALONG WITH THIS NARRATIVE!
"Don't say gay" was coined by the media. Its not in the bill at all.
And it applies to K-3. Why are people protesting teaching that subject matter to kids that young?
Because indoctrination is far more effective if introduced early in a child's cognitive development. Same way it's much easier to learn multiple languages as a young child. If they can teach 5 year olds about gender ideology, they can warp an entire generation to believe our biology has no bearing on our psyche, and reality (truth) is whatever you think it is. ...Which is really whatever they tell you it is.
@@psychegoddessoflight9358 Yes, that's the actual answer.
I was waiting for some type of diluted rationalization they might come up with. Even that's hard, in this case.
@@daemon.running don’t expect an answer beyond….”you should do what we say because if not, all alphabet people will suicide themselves”….that is the standard answer when they don’t have much of an argument. 🤷♀️
@@ashdav9980 That's another qualm I have. People will take it upon themselves to speak on behalf of a given "community".
I think activists wish for things like these to happen so they can find something to complain about, give their pathetic lives some meaning lol.
I can see many people have an opinion on what they know nothing about. This is in NO way against any GLBTQ... READ THE BILL!
I'm working on the "Say No White" Bill. This is in NO way against any whites
@@Lonewolf-gr2nh Bro the media came up with the name...You lemming...
@@Lonewolf-gr2nh did you read 1557, moron? Did you read the bill? Can you read? Maybe you should get your mommy to read it to you.
Honest people should realize that parents have civil rights and family authority as to how to raise their little children of five, six, seven and eight year olds. NOT strangers and political activists, or the LGBTQSUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS+ community and their allies that want to silence those parents. Children do not need to be targeted for any other agenda than to teach them education in a format that isn't threatening to they or their parents. They need time to be children and not sexualized in any, shape or form.
Teaching people about the struggles of gay and trans people to educate them more on the subject ≠ sexualizing children
@@largeman2316 But normal people don't care or want their children to know about that garbage. So as much as people might hate it, we have rights too. And thank God we're starting to exercise them. I only hope it's not too late for us.
Middle school (grades 5/6-8) is a far more appropriate time to address those valid issues, in terms of children's cognitive development. This bill focuses on protecting children in K-3.
We have so many letters because we are inclusive, unlike people like you.
@@xxhannahbiebsxx
What makes you think you are "normal" and somebody else isn't because they don't believe the same thinks you do. A lot of crazy stuff comes from the mouth of Evangelicals that is NOT NORMAL to educated human beings. But society flies with that.
There are a lot of people in the comments who are boasting on their ability to read the bill better than everyone else. People who think the bill is limited to Kindergarten through third grade. Such people are revealing that they can't even finish reading a single sentence.
"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."
Yes, this starts out with the K-3 part. But did you notice that "or" in there? Did you notice the part that goes "or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate"?
That gives them a wild card to enforce it at any grade that they want. All of you people boasting about how smart you are because you read the bill? Yeah, you failed to even complete reading a single sentence.
@grand nagus so I take it you know and accept that I'm speaking the truth because you disagreed with nothing that I said. As to what you said, no, it's a tired slur but it's never been accurate. You should know by now that no matter what you do to LGBT people they still exist. Nothing has to be done to make them happen, they naturally exist. The problem is that hateful narrow-minded people like yourself want them to suffer for simply being the way they were born. Just look at the number of people lying about this bill in these comments. Just look at the amount of bearing of false witness in order to try to make these students suffer.
I expect you're beyond this, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Keep these perverted lunatics out of our schools,away from our children,fire any teacher trying too push this insanity on our children..
Tell us more about teachers pushing insanity on you?
Oh shut up
Don't you realize that those who do
wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of
God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who
indulge in sexual sin, or who worship
idols, or commit adultery, or are male
prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,
or are thieves, or greedy people, or
drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat
people -none of these will inherit the
Kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Amen , Abomination is a sin
@@mysidianrabite7826 what’s really goofy is believing nothing created everything and we’re just here by chance. God created male and female perfect for one another. You can reject the truth but it’s not going to mean it’s not true. You are just choosing sin.
Little kids are not homosexual, bisexual, transsexual or heterosexual....they are NON sexual. Leave them alone with this nonsense.
The only thing impacting this person is his boyfriend from behind.
Exactly LMAO 🤣
Lol
I've noticed that right wing people who claim to be straight are inordinately obssessed about gay sex. You're fantasizing about an underage teen having sex... but for some reason, all the right wingers insist it's really liberals who are doing that.
Projection much?
The right to indoctrinate 5 year olds? WTF?
That's what bible school is for !!!
It’s teaching them? Instead of being a hateful old guy on the internet. Teaching them will help them understand themselves, their peers, and the real world, where gay people exist and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not a decision Ed.
@@seymourbutts4654 all forms of indoctrination should be banned. No argument from me there
@@bombazine2 Outrage is what modern day politics is all about. Both sides keep it going 24/7 365. Back in the day believe or not the politicos would actually take a break from all the BS . Not anymore. There are a lot of things kids are taught that goes through one ear and out the other. History comes to mind. But for some reason you think these lessons are really going to stick. Okey dokey.
@@d.h.4778 Not wanting to sexualize 5-9 year old kids is hate? I hope you aren’t working with kids, that’s all I can say…
This is what’s wrong with this country FJB!!
How about,Stop imposing your ideas on parents and the way they want to raise their children what about their rights ? Americans are getting tired
How about Christian Conservatives who always whine about "local control" stop whining and let local control do its thing. Oh wait ... I forgot ... to be a Conservative Christian, you have to be duplicitous.
@@edruttledge342 sounds like you have a personal beef.... I am not a conservative Christian. Matter of fact, i support gay rights. I do NOT support activists teachers talking to 5 year olds about their sexual orientation....
@@Funnyfresh420 Funny - First you are "Juan Campanur" then you transform into "Funnyfresh420," thus making you both a trans and duplicitous. 🤣
@@edruttledge342 did you just learn duplicitous? I'm glad you learned a big boy word... my point is it youre are bringing up Christians like they're the only ones who want this bill to pass.
@@Funnyfresh420 Actually, I was in labor relations (now retired) so "duplicitous" was in the work jargon. Then Trump was elected with help from Putin & Co. and "duplicitous" came to describe our governance profile. Christians generally rejoiced (and continue to do so) at Team Trump/Putin and so they are complicit (another "big boy word") Have a good day!
Sexual orientation emerges around puberty, precisely what the bill does not cover, so I don't really get the issue. Little kids aren't gay or even straight they don't have sex, they are growing. People do realize sexual orientation is not something that happens at birth of a infant right? Like it evolves until puberty, and then even then some people don't realize it till like their way older so maybe don't talk about gays with kiddos?
If you want to dismiss scientific evidence that shows otherwise. Prenatal hormones are the most likely cause. There is zero evidence that social environment has a significance on sexual orientation, so how can you be so sure about it being the sole reason for homosexuality and bisexuality? Sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. "Little kids aren't gay or even straight" is probably the stupidest thing I've heard today. My experience is that I was very sure of who I liked at the age of 6-7. Homosexuality isn't a disease. If you didn't have that ignorance and had the emotional maturity exceeding that of a 5-year-old, you might be sympathetic to the fact that it's not a choice. If it was a choice, then people wouldn't kill themselves over it.
I'm gay and I realized I was different at a very early age. Why should saying the word gay be taboo? How does that make gay kids feel about themselves? What if a child has gay parents? If someone don't want there child to hear the word gay or live in the real world then home school them!
@@FG-hw5ep Well exactly, but their egos cant take something that they aren't completely familiar with. They go into defense mode and resort to ignorant blabbering.
"it evolves until puberty". No. Any parent with a gay kid knows that's not true. You can tell when a kid is gay or trans very early on. My mother knew i was gay even before i do. It's something that you're born with, not something that "evolves". I something that you'll end up discoverying about yourself, like being left-handed, but you were always left-handed, even before you were able to write.
Also, you're missing the point. No one is teaching kids how to be gay - that's not a thing. Saying that gay and trans people exist and families with same sex parents exists, is not something that kids should learn only when they reach puberty. If your kid is able to learn that Johny or Sophie has a mummy and a daddy, then they are also capable of learning that Joe and Martha have two dadies or two mummies. There is no good reason to say that they shouldn't learn that as well. All arguments saying that they can't are based on ignorance, prejudice and an irracional fear that kids learning that will simple choice to be gays, as if sexual orientation is something that you can choose for yourself, like wearing clothes. That's not true.
@@dvderif 👍👏👏👏👏👏🎯
Did the world all of a sudden forget talking to little kids about sex, gay or straight, is not appropriate in school?
You need to be in class. Your education is more important than getting your feelings hurt over issues you disagree. You aren't doing yourself any favors if you get distracted over activism. Get your education, then fight whatever cause you feel passionate.
Exactly. Seems parents still aren't interested in doing their jobs and getting their kids into some semblance of order for a decent future.
@@sybergato
Partly because men's natural authority in marriage has been criminalized. Men have little to no incentive to stay in the relationship, nowadays. That makes discipline/order nearly impossible to have and to teach, and it leads to the fall of civilization.
@@AuroraColoradoUSA While I agree with parenting, I can't put it all on that. Many men took advantage of that authority too. Caused the pendulum to swing in the favor of women.
@@sybergato
No, dear, it was the fact women were given the right to vote. And, unfortunately, that artificially created tribe has reeked havoc on our society. Things might have ended up this way sooner or later anyway, but most of this garbage is promoted by women voters. Have you researched the transgnder bullies beating up on girls in sports issue? Women voters can stop that if they want to, but they don't. WHY NOT???
@@AuroraColoradoUSA Lmaooooo dude you can't be for real. Women's suffrage hasn't even been a topic of debate since, what, 1920? What time capsule did you crawl out of in order to post this ice-cold take? Sit down and let your antiquated views die already
Gay.
Grow up. No body has to like anyone and no culture has to like you either. Only the law must respect you as an individual. It's best to teach love and respect and not teach group identity politics that involve restricting risk, offensive words, and offensive thoughts.
"dont say gay" is not a thing. thats just the propaganda name they gave the bill to make people who arent willing to do their own research think its anti lgbt
So what you're saying is it's best to teach respect but not to say who it is you're supposed to respect? How do you think that works?
Dude, be as gay as you want, just don't shove down our throats....... DeSantis is another rock star....
Homophobes really like to talk about things being shoved down their throats.
i would guess this kid has no clue what this bill actually says.
He litterally quoted the bill, but yeah gues s he had no idea what's in it right? Dummy
I remember going to school in 1972 where there were no gay straight alliances and no gay rights at all in schools
And it was ok to be picked on or bullied because we are different .
We have come a long way since those days
But we still need to address the bullying issue
Bullying against LGBT students is still going on
And the teen suicide rate in school continues
However when i went to school in England i had more gay experience with people other boys there although
The teachers were horrible a lot of gay stuff went on
And it happens to me at a mixed school where they were girls lol and when i went to an all boys nothing happened sad but true.
At the all boys school in England i actually knew a gay
Student who walked around openly gay and even had a partner there the students name was dudridge and his
Suspected partner was a boy named Ricky Flied
They were like a gay couple and they actually walked around holding hands with each other and nobody bullied them they were teased and laughed at
But no other kids bullied them at that was in England in
1978 i remember i was a bit envious of them at the time.
I found being gay there was excepted and even tolerated there in the 1970s
Very good point
I went to school in the 80s and 90s. It was still bad. I didn't know a single "out" LGBT student, because they knew it wasn't safe to be out. I'm sure they were there, but they were still hiding. I suspect one of my two best friends was asexual, but he didn't have the framework to understand it at the time. Or he may have been gay, it's hard to tell from the distance of all those years. I wish I could have understood him better, or for that matter I wish he could have understood himself better.
I'm not saying everything is better now, but I'm shocked at how quickly things changed. Bills like this are an attempt by the GOP to turn back time. They don't have any positive agendas to pursue, to they're trying to recapture their favorite minority to hurt by trying to push them back into the closet. But I don't think it'll work. I'm not saying this won't hurt children, it will. But for the most part it's too late. The students are already visibly rejecting this attempt to use them in the culture war. It will only further serve to separate the younger generation from the Republican party. Future voters are seeing laws like this and realizing that they want nothing to do with a party that would support them.
@@NomadSoul76 This is brilliant. You said it!
What a false narrative! Why should 5-8 year olds have sex education in public schools? Let parents educate kids.
I can’t believe how people are so easily coerced into believing what their told to believe. This bill neither states that teachers can’t talk about gay topics nor does it ban it talking about gay topics. The bill bans classroom discussions on ANY sexual orientation or preferences between pre-k and third grade including a heterosexual or homosexual teacher talking about the spouse(any and all discussions about those preferences are not to be discussed due to their age not being able to comprehend the topic) if a kid asks about these topics, THEIR PARENTS ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM! It also states that teachers cannot inform a student to not speak with their parents about medical topics such as the students sexual orientation or preferences but also includes something as simple as a kid getting hurt from something the school could be sued over and a teacher saying to not tell their parents. NOW, the bill does allow teachers to have discussions with 1 or more students NOT in a classroom setting(class full of kids being taught curriculum) about these topics such as heterosexual or homosexual thoughts or feelings BUT the parents are still required to be notified about the discussion AS IT SHOULD BE, because otherwise it’s inappropriate and honestly suspect.
This idea that teachers should be allowed to talk privately with a student/s about these topics and keep it from the parents is criminal and very inappropriate. Teachers may have daily interactions with these kids but they are still aquanauts NOT SOMEONE YOU SHOULD SHARE THESE TOPICS WITH, My coworkers may not be strangers but the idea of telling these people your secrets is insane. There are people in your life that you interact with but don’t need to have secret conversations with and teachers/coaches/coworkers are one of them. This idea that parents should be left out of their child’s education and problems and the state(government) should raise them instead is honestly terrifying.
It bans it between k-3, " or in a manner that is not age appropriate". That gives them a wild card that allows them to ban it in any grade they wish, for any reason.
And BTW, if it bans ANY discussion on sexual oritentation, do you think it bans any mention of hetero marriage? If it bans discussion of gender identity, does it ban the use of terms like "boys and girls"? How is that even possible?
If it was evenly enforced it would. But we all know it won't be enforced that way. It will be used only to discriminate against a minority, cis/het people will be exempt from it.
You hit the nail on the head. I'm convinced this push by the alphabet soup lobby to get them while they're young has nothing to do with teaching acceptance and everything to do with indoctrination and predatory grooming. By normalizing explicit sexual content and exploration at such a young age, they make these kids much more open to sexual experimentation... and I'd bet many of these teachers would be more than happy to "guide" them through that.
Look. You can't be this stupid. A bill that bans discussion on sexual orientation by definition bans gay topics. What else do you think those words mean?
What if I wanted to hand out straight pride flags. Flags that represent straightness. They’d hate that.
Ray sis! 😆 Oh sorry... Hummaphobe! 😆
@@josephjones4968 racist doesnt even have a definition anymore so im sure theyd still use it... probably deem it a white supremacy flag.... OH WAIT.. thats right they already did... the whole super straight movement with them saying they were nazis do to the SS on the flag
I mean, you'd look like an idiot, but you're welcome to do it if it gets you off. Taking pride in being what is still considered the default by many people is.. well... pretty weak looking. Taking pride in something which means you've never faced any persecution, something which has made your life easier than for LGBT people, well... it's a bad look. But again, go ahead. It's nice to know who thinks that way.
@@NomadSoul76 being straight is definitely something you should take pride in. We actually sustain the world. Without us there are no gay people or civilization as a whole. Also let’s face it if they did hand those out the lgbt activists and complicit school board will do everything to shut that down. But what will really get people in trouble would be if they started handing out bibles
Why does he keep referring to them as "queer"? Aren't they supposed to be "normal"?
Gay
Very observant.
Well I guess the good old days of just going to school to learn something instead of acting of or being what you have to be that's okay but you don't have to spread it all over all the time just go to school learn and get educated I think that's the most important part
Not educating children about others who are not like themselves creates bullies.
@@FG-hw5ep no it doesn't, kids go to school to learn academics not sexual identity.
I go to school like a second home, because I feel safe, if this law passed where I live I wouldn’t know what to do other than protest, why should I suffer and keep to myself the rest of my life because some bigot thinks that the Book of the lord is better or greater than an actual living breathing human??
@@lunar_1190 the Lord was a living breathing human being read about in the gospel of Mathew
Pretty much Brain washing kids
Despise you for trying to force certain subjects on the ears of other people's children. Seriously, despicable & depraved.
And then you'll all turn around and try and push the Bible in school again. Is just hypocrisy.
@@wizevmkloarm3462 It wasn't pushed in there to begin with. Two words in a pledge on average across schools? Voluntary? Depraved filth should think more and whine less at the truth.
@@Godwin420 definitely never pushed in schools, we're just going to ignore the forced "education" of natives and Africans now? I don't know what world you live in but religion has been forced on people for thousands of years. I mean did you forget the Spanish inquisition murder of millions for not conforming to their beliefs? I can go on and on. You want to know what's not a choice that cant be forced on you, being gay.
every single person in charge of writing inflammatory headlines has either disregarded the truth by not reading the bill or they have intentionally lied after reading it.
All for the clicks. And profit. Not truth. Or anything close.
DId you forget when the republicans tried to add an ammendment that forced schools to out students to their parents within 6 weeks of learning about their sexuality?
@@politcallycorrect5816 What does that have anything to do with what I said?
Did you forget about when the Democrats got caught inventing the Gulf of Tonkin incident and getting us into a ten year war that cost us 58,000 lives and the Pentagon Papers that proved Democrat complicity in getting them killed?
There. See. I can go off on a tangent too.
I am tallking about the Bill in the video, the same bill you are talking about, that is not a tangent.