Australia sucks and that won't stop me
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2023
- In this entry in my A to Z series, we play Australia and try to make it not suck
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I always had an opinion that Australia is wasted potential. It would be so cool to create a pacific empire like Japan
Seems kind of counterintuitive considering how much of Australia's land mass is barely inhabitable desert but the player should have to grapple with that on their own terms XD
@Arrogant Savant having the ability to core eastern british empire lands would fix the manpower issue
And so do the entire southeast asia
@@boomerharris2965 Maybe coring New Zealand, but coring Malaysia or the Raj is completely unrealistic.
@@simont.4633 I mean Liberia conquering the world is too but it can be done. This is hoi alt history after all
True story Bitt3rSteel is only the guy I know who could enjoy playing Communist Australia for 24 hours straight.
lmaooooo
It's the legend, Bubbles Zest. I wonder, Luxembourg run on Vicky 2?
Bubbles is one of those CZcamsrs I really enjoy but didn't remember to subscribe to, until now.
@@XSpamDragonX lmaooo
@@XSpamDragonXthanks for reminding me to sub to him!
As an Australian who enjoys playing Australia I am offended by the title but am very happy to see you play Australia
It's just...not a great tree
As a New Zealander....
@@Bitt3rSteel when new zealand has a better focus tree than australia. smh my head
lol same…
Australia is my main country in mp, and i love it still
Other countries: Fight against foreign powers with their focus tree
Together for victory countries: Fight against foreign powers and also their focus tree.
Australia desperately needs an update.
No update since 2017
You need a life
Not as desperately as real world Australia 😂😂
Many countries do
I think there are many more important nations that need better trees. Even if its to add more depth. Like America, Britain, France, even Germany.
Australia: Was one of the most important Minor allied nations. Who literally played a large role in almost every theatre before going behind Churchill's back to change the course of the war in the Pacific.
Paradox: Ehh lets spend 5 minutes making their focus tree.
Without the brave men of Australia sacrifice from themselves fighting the Japanese on land The war in the Pacific could have certainly been much longer and bloodier. Bitter stubborn defense turning to offense in some of the most inhospitable jungles of the world from fine fighting men from Australia is what shaped the early part of the Pacific War.
As an Australian, We need a better focus tree.
You need less huntsman spiders :D
@@lordhoden LMAO
@@lordhoden we need more huntsman spiders, only things that kill the actual annoying crawling insects. If I spot one inside, he gets a name and left completely alone.
¿ ǝɹǝɥʇ uʍop lǝǝɟ ʇᴉ sǝop ʍoH
@@1Velaxis1 If i saw one of those face to face id need a life time of therapy. The 5 cm abominations we have here are big enough ^^
In Poland you can make a bear your king. It would be funny, if in Australia you could play as an Emu Empire.
you can, it’s what happens when you switch to fascism
@@christianthompson7915I think he means for an literal Emu to be your leader portrait.
No.
Well we have actually had a magician as our prime minister before, in Australia.
Wait how??? I can just choose between 3 kings
Australia storming French-controlled Normandy in 1943 after annexing UK is possibly the most cursed D-Day scenario possible.
Never in Churchills wildest nightmares did Australia almost single handedly destroy the Axis before attacking the UK and the Allies
You sound so giddy when you mention the ships you'll build, it's adorable
We desperately need an Emutopia and Kiwiland update.
Well I found a new way to prod at my Emutopian friends today…
love the Perun reference
I have an ungodly amount of hours on ironman Australia because it feels like the perfect underdog story plus as awful as the focus tree is there is some gold in there (2.0 years a head for small frame, destroyers, subs & cruisers), really nice industry bonuses.
Colabs and annexing Indonesia is vital for industry, resources & non- core manpower.
Always did civil war in the Netherlands but that trick with getting the invasion off from Russia is gold, will use the hell out of that.
Great video that I will take a bunch of ideas from!
As someone who really enjoys playing New Zealand, this video inspired me to give Straya another shot.
just HOW do you manage to enjoy New Zealand? I tried to enjoy it, believe me I really tried. But I can't it's just so underpowered
@@aidenbooksmith2351 cheat
@@aidenbooksmith2351 Big bob
You play NZ for one of two reasons:
B I G B O B
You're a kiwi and just want to play your home country
With the power of six research slots you can become Wakanda of the Pacific pretty quickly and be an absolutely annoying dbag to the Japanese. I find it very chill tbh.
As an Aussie, this brought me tremendous joy, and as an Aussie girl, I don't even mind that you pledged to kill your own, Aussie men (2:44). [sips.Vegemite.smoothie]
Girls play hoi4????
@@Konichu35 What's a girl?
@@Konichu35 No girls on the internet. Only feds.
Vegemite smoothie? Monster.
@@Konichu35 yeaa we do :)
I like these "sub-optimal" videos! You laugh more and I laugh more. It's just as interesting watching a virtuoso be technically impressive (grinding out wins, fixing bad saves) as it is when they tell us a story and roleplay out a concept. Keep up the great work!
Australia was so fun to play in hoi3, being so tough to stop the japanese before america came in made it feel like a genuine struggle to help hold onto places like singapore
I cracked up so hard the moment he said "The Australian Army's already outside Berlin" and it's just 1941
“I don’t do armor”
Immediately puts armor on the cruiser. 😳
Yeah what's up with that? I noticed it too.
I think thats attempting to avoid them immediately be annihilated.
他用實力證明了這遊戲，只要有足夠的陰謀就可以贏
不管你是多麼偏僻又貧弱的小國家
只要你會搞掉那些沒有軍隊的國家，就可以壯大然後繼續贏下每一場戰爭
該死的，他讓整個社群的人難堪
The title should be every Australian's life motto
My great grandfather is from Australia. I remember during worker day of how he told me how he marched through tokyo, ending g the Asian war truly a war hero.
Naval Australia… my god. The criminals are fighting back. GIVE THE AUSSIES A BETTER FOCUS TREE GOD DAMNIT
best video from the series so far.
no mods and no boring standard approach
Bittersteel: this is a terrible country
also bittersteel: kills the entire world in 5 minutes flat
The image at 0:03 got me to subscribe. I never get tired of that joke
Australian fan here. You did well mate. Cheers for that. 🍺
You totally got me turning the image upside down at the start. I just rotated the phone for full screen so I rotated again to get it oriented just for you to trick me again! I've been had 😂
Best. Australia. Run. Ever.
(or at least that I have seen)
Australia
Australia
Australia
Australia
Australia
Australia
I think you need like 1 set of fighter wings for every certain amount of bombers in order for the bombers to actually want to go on their missions. I tend to go for 1 fighter and the rest bomber wings.
Carrier Fighters actually slap because they still do naval attack damage (very little damage, but still) and they will wipe out an enemy's naval bombers. It is still a good idea to put at least one squadron of naval bombers in each carrier, but I always prioritize the fighters.
0:50 bitter sounded like he was really happy lol
Paradox this is a petition Australia needs a better focus tree
Its a shame really that the focus tree is kinda mid, considering how Australia played a big roll defending from the Japanese. Also id love to see a Populate or Perish focus for Australia.
hey that was a nice & refreshing video :D
The flag isn't that bad steel! It's a lovely Kangaroo jumping toward the sun, looks pretty nice ^_^
Democratic Australia on historical AI focuses is actually really really fun. It's similar to Canada in that you're really far away from all the fighting so if you just abandon infantry and planes, and go all in on medium tanks you can put down like 12 really good tank divisions and just zip around North Africa, Italy and later Germany because you don't have enough units on the front line for the AI to think of you as a priority. Single handedly won the war for the allies multiple times as Australia, even saved Poland from being yoinked by Stalin once
The absolute slander as an Aussie (I still agree our tree is garbage, but still)
I know what you mean when you say super optimally, the Malaysia play through was honestly the most entertaining video you made👍
Historically accurate title is historically accurate. Australia went from swol doge in WW1 to wimp doge in WW2; we did bugger all despite the war being on our doorstep. WW1 it was 4 divisions at the tip of the spear, WW2 was couldn't even defend new guinea properly, and that's a place still 80 years later still isn't tamed/is extremely rugged and difficult.
Sure brand new focus trees are cool and all but jesus they need to do a sweep of quite a few of the old dlc trees and bring them up to par with their more recent work so selecting them doesnt feel like a mistake.
Unless you're Bittersteel of course. Then its only a geographical inconvenience.
That aircraft carrier isn’t that left field. The HMAS Melbourne was a majestic class aircraft carrier and it operated in the 50s
Australia during the WW1 mod is kindof interesting because in my playthrough Germany actually tried to defend its colonies in the pacific. It actually was quite the challenge for me to oust German forces out of the pacific.
i had an relativly fun game as australia, focused on tanks and got 2 of their achivments. The thing was that i dont have the dlc, so i had just the base tree and i think that made it more fun
I bet Bittersteel is going to rant before every Commonwealth nation!!! Excited to see you play the Raj tho XD
Nice to see that you’re still in charge of Belgium as well
kind of late to the vid as always nice video Bittersteel! Keep the work up!
you can actually plan an invasion with just military access without joining their faction, you just need to plan an invasion from your country to theirs first, then plan the actual invasion (which is now possible), and then just delete the previous invasion and assign your units to the actual one
Hey! I've seen that the member names always start with the same names (maybe it's supposed to be like this, idk), but it would be cool if the names list could be randomized before every video so more members could have their names as divisions. Anyways, great video as always, keep it up man :)
My mod knowledge tells me that this is sadly not possible. HOWEVER. it is possible to make two mods that have opposite orders.
@@aidenbooksmith2351 Could he not spend the time to type them in? It's the least he could do for the people allowing him to make playing video games a job.
what makes Australia such pain to play, is no doubt the lack of research slots. as despite having great point to become a naval power, you have no research slots to research pretty much anything.
"cheap destroyers, cheap fodder" you just described the scrap iron flotilla.... it was extremely successful.
I would like it if someday paradox goes through the older focus trees and gives them an update. Some of the older ones suck.
The first 3 DLC's they did are really showing how restricted they are these days, been itching to do a Japan game but each time I look at there focus tree just makes me sad.
At least they are "slowly" updating these older trees, Yugoslavia got a ton of new focuses a while back, India can now finally gain access to its full manpower, and Canada can now have a large army and a good industry. No sign of Australia, New Zealand or South Africa getting any TLC yet however...
Also from my own Experience from Carrier Fleets, secondaries are useless unless using Dual Purpose, extra Anti Air is handy especially if patrolling waters where the AI throws up Aircraft, same goes with Radar down the line, as it will help find enemy fleets much easier.
Aircraft wise "I think" better engines and survivability massively reduce combat losses, when engaging ships with any sort of AA, especially Armour Plates. Also Fighters are great when dealing with enemy carrier fleets as Carrier Planes tend to go for Carriers more often than not, as well as Carrier Fighters also have some Naval Attack themselves, I tend to split my Airwings with a 50/50 split between Torpedo Bombers and Fighters.
Also bit of an interesting note, if you got down the Ballistic Rocket technology you can gain access to Anti Ship Missiles for Naval Bombers, and they hit much harder than torpedoes, bit of a hidden tech that most players never see thanks to that line being useless otherwise.
It's funny you promoted Thomas Blamey to being a Field Marshal: to this day, he's the only Australian (or at least the only person actually born in Australia) to ever hold that position.
As an Australian and someone who usually only plays Australia, you have offended me good sir! haha great video as always!!
i know the saying a bit differently..."if its stupid but it works,.. its still stupid...you just got lucky"
but great video ;)
Hey i got a challenge for you for the next video: play as Germany but you can only use horse divisions and you can edit them as you want templates to be.
Paradox: start a game from one of the interesting states!
Interesting states: Australia, New Zealand
Getting powerful navy ships is perfectly lore-friendly, provided you try to home-brew them from an outdated Swedish design even though you don't have a domestic ship building industry and spend decades trying to get them up to speed while the project costs balloon far beyond expectations and delays use up most of their service life. Then years later you learn your lesson and buy from the French instead, but cock up the process so bad it causes an international incident, and you have to pay a nearly billion-dollar fine to break the contract so you can go running to the Americans instead (who definitely didn't exert pressure behind the scenes to ensure exactly that outcome).
Great editing
If the enemy used naval bombers you should absolutely use antiair on carriers, as they're the first to be targeted and aa reduces the damage taken (so you spend less time in port repairing)
It will also shoot down a couple of planes, but that's basically meaningless
I swear I was just checking if you had played any Australia games when you uploaded
Together for Victory countries: Literally untouched for 7 years. Reminds me a lot of EU4 where 50% of the countries haven't been updated after missions were added.
Oooooo knew bitt3rsteel video, haven’t watched it but I know it’s going to be good love your content bitt3r keep it up don’t burn out. :)
You can already sense that he is becoming more unhinged, just like ISP
I tapped this not knowing it was hearts of iron and was ready to lobby the government into sending a few drop bears to you
I was gonna send it to Tride XD
You should get Coloured Puppets for future videos. It's Ironman-compatible and makes the overall map situation a lot clearer.
yeah the focus tree sucks balls but im glad they updated the amount of territory you can actually build on. It was crazy small for one of the largest land masses around.
I remember an aussie playthrough where I kicked Italy out of east Africa. Stole a German rail gun that was in british Somalia and named it THE BIG ONE. Occupied all of italian Libya and Sardinia. Then turned my army around to go kick Japan in the rice balls. That was a fun game.
Time traveler: Steps on a flower. The Timeline:
I was expecting Austria but this is better
I always like the idea of playing an aggressive Australia or South Africa but it doesn't work
I’m an Australian and seen the video title and got excited thinking it was a video ragging on australia not realising it was in fact a game 😂
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
Together for victory countries needs an update with baltic country style. Standart industry focus tree and unic political tree without any stupid requirement like world tension or being at war. Also recruitable population boosts would be really nice
Or just... no stupid requirements.
That'd bump them from "worse than default" to "at least passable".
@@anon9469 yeah but playing them with full potential would be better. For example India. Even without limitations its so under potential a peninsula like that rich history
@@doctorwhat779 Paradox: we can't let India use more than 1/3rd of its manpower, it'd unbalance the game!
Also Paradox: lol Britain can recruit as many Indians as they want if they just double down on colonialism hard enough.
As an Australian, the title is Uhh… not pleasant but I’m happy to see you play the great commonwealth
let's just say australia is a great reason to have a command console in this game
Out of all the things the soviets could have done in the japanese peace conference I'd really expected them to focus on taking at least south sakhalin and the kuril islands. Anyways, great run!
the nicest hoi4 australian gameplay be like:
As an Aussie in reality our biggest army is the Salvation Army. We have a few row boats and a bi-plane in a museum in questionable order. A few noisy cold war designed subs round out the defence force.
I miss those days when bomber only Australia would get insane war score.
You should try the mighty New Zealand, If I remember correctly it is one of the few countries which can get 6 research slots.
Why bother? All you need is the Bob Semple.
Yeah but B I G B O B (Also I love how WE get lots of research slots.....if ONLY we had manpower lmao)
Bloody hell I was watching on my phone and thought that there was a problem with it during the first 10 seconds of the vid lol
“Not carrier goodbye bomber”
“Carrier naval bombers” “that reminds me”
This could be used to get Australia-Hungary, the long way around though. I never got the paradrop strat fully working
When looking at those borders, remember that this is the “fixed” peace deal system! 😂
Honestly, this is probably as close to meta for Australia as it currently gets, lmao.
I'm also running some carrier-based France fleets with full-on stacked carrier bombers and nothing else. It.. works! Let me see how you do it :)
it’s terrifying to hear a very experienced hoi4 player say “i don’t know” so many times
As an Australian, for what we were in regards to our accomplishments in ww2, I feel Australia has been neglected in hoi4.
Just to name a few noteworthy accomplishments, the Royal Aussie Airforce at its peak had operated 6000 aircraft by 1944, placing it as 4th largest airforce by 1945. Australian bomber squadrons were among the first of the British overseas forces to recieve deployment to the European theater in 1939, and of course we'd been there for the British as it fought desperate battles over the skies of Great Britain.
We also have the 'Scrap Iron Flotilla' of 5 Australian crewed destroyers, HMAS Waterhen, Vampire, Voyager, Stuart and Vendetta. In 1939, while being outdated 1918 models as Reichsminister for Public Enlightenment and Progaganda Herr Goebbels would put it; 'scrap iron', the scrap iron flotilla had got first blood on the Italian submarine fleet in their first deployment to the Mediterranean and sinking a handful of vessels. They'd participated in the Battle of Cape Matapan; the allied ships sustaining no significant losses while sinking Italian heavy crusiers, destroyers; also scoring significant damage to Italy's Battleship, the Vittorio Veneto. Other noteworthy engagements include their anti submarine and escort duties along the North African coast, the resupply of allied forces in Tobruk as well as the Vampire's service in the Pacific theatre. Of all the dangerous operations carried out by the scrap iron flotilla, only the HMAS Stuart and Vendetta survived.
Don't forget that the Australian troops had fought well against Italian and German forces in the African campaign. The Aussies under the command of the British probably held the African force together since London and North African field command was getting into fights at the time when the axis forces outnumbered British forces by kilometers. Need I say, before Montgomery took command, nobody had any love for the apparently incompetent British officers. Apparently, the anzacs ran a bayonet charge into the position where Generalfeldmarschall Rommel was and the general took a picture of it that was recovered in his belongings.
Honestly, Australia needs a rework that actually shows what we were capable of at that time. Australia may not be the main protagonist in the story but that doesn't mean we should be written off as being only useful for steel and tungsten. I'm not sure what interesting paths you could take for alternatives, but I suppose you could make it so that the Emu's overthrew the government as payback, or we could just declare war on Emu's and send them to Madagascar until it becomes too convenient to genocide the overgrown turkeys by sending them to the frontlines as meatshields that give big breakthrough, recon and hp to your divisons which should be powerful in the support companies/doctrine rework, or just the German kind of genocide. Another alternate could be a monarchist path where we put Michael Hastings aka australian man who claimed to be rightful heor to the British throne. With an infant Michael Hastings, we could partition King George to relinquish the throne or declare our own Head of State. Perhaps include a path for Australia to become successor to the British Empire under His Majesty, the sovereign monarch of Australia, Earl of Loudoun and rightful heir to the crown of England, Michael Edward Abney-Hastings the first. I reckon if we include an emu supremacy path, the player gets exclusive access to Australian fauna mounted divisions such as kangaroo mounts. However, if you go with Michael Hastings, he gives you access to exclusive units such as experimental battlecrusiers that were meant to be a hybrid of battleship and aircraft carrier. The British had planned the concept in 1917 with the HMS Furious. The first real attempts at building a battleship that could support fighter wings and big artillery guns to match that of the modern battleships was put into development in Japan but the most well known of these of the Yatamo class did not succeed due to torpedo bombing. However, whose to say that King Michael doesn't want to make one of those behemoths his personal flagship so perhaps he or rather his regent (he would be an infant) would be able to negotiate a deal with Gibbs and Cox, an American shipbuilding company that drafted plans for the concept that was never commissioned, and have them sent to Australia for development. More experimental units/equipment for Australia could be the Sentenel tank, Melvaine's Mobile Pill Box, Grasshopper Light Tank (Aussie Transformers), the Cossor Land Cruiser (a big tank shaped liked a dick), the Wirraway, the CAC-15 'Kangeroo', the CA-12 'Boomerang' and the CAC P-51 'Mustang' just to name a few Australian designs.
Karl Marx spinning in his grave so fast that it prints men in Australia.
Bitt3rSteel, you and ISP are the only hoi4 youtubers i watch, i just found you. But I love your stuff, you have a very deep technical knowledge of the game, and I pick up lots of useful stuff watching your videos, that I think have actually made me way better in a very short time! Anyways. Please stop neglecting to use recon teams, you should try to field them in nearly every division that you can. If you have more recon than an enemy, you gain better tactics usage. If you have less recon, they have advantage. If your even, there is no advantage. Going through some forum posts, having more recon than your opponent gives about 15% more likelihood to win battles. So even if your just staying on par with your enemy, you'll find that your divisions will feel way stronger in general. Every vid I've seen you always ignore/hesitate and it bothers me lol, so at least give it a try for a bit. Regardless thanks for the vids.
"Never another Gallipoli" and ""we need expendable fodder" Bitt3rsteel...
This was a fun one.
By pumping out enough submarines, you can easily naval invade japan and puppet. Build factories then become integrated puppet. Then annex China, make sure 3 levels of collaboration government. Australia would then become an absolute beast.
I remember trying Australia once thinking I could make a strong local navy and snatch south east Asia but uh...yeah the focus tree
THE FLAG IS EPIC
John Curtin is basically tf2 sniper
Bruh when i loaded the video my screen was upside down so Australia was upside down lol
i think the best naval bombers are ones with guns too, im not sure tho. i just play battleships
I read this as a dig on australia itself and I was like "yeah he's right" and then it turned out to be a hoi4 video.