The Most CONTROVERSIAL MOPED UPGRADE (I messed up...)
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- The moped chronicles continue in this video as I have realized I made a huge mistake, and there's only one mod that can save me! If there's one thing that seems to annoy moped enthusiasts the most, it's removing the pedals... not sure why they like those things but hey, to each their own! In this video I install a kick starter kit onto the Puch to make starting it way easier!! Hope you enjoy!
Link to the kick starter kit:
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lol I remember when I first threw a fatty pipe on my Motobecane, I could only keep the one side pedal, and I would ride around with a bicycle chain and the second pedal in my backpack in case I got pulled over and could say that my bike "quite literally just broke and I'm going to fix it. here are the parts, occifer."
Love this video dude, keep it up!
Bro that’s amazing hahaha. Weird to me that the legal definition required it to have pedals, that’s a great story tho
Yea mopeds in europe 96% of the time dont have pedals, even from factory.
Not sure why the US didn’t follow that trend but it’s stupid!!!! Glad I got pegs on mine tho haha
@@TwoStrokeJ way better with the pedals without it you don't have a clutch u can control😉
I know like derbis yamahas hondas suzukis riejus and gileras, you name them
@@williambjalandmoen2350 yea derbis most of the time haha. I also have a derbi
@@dabrandi same man, I have a Derbi Senda SM X-Race Black D
i have a couple inputs. 1) Puch maxi's comes as a kickstart model as well, and that engine fits right onto the pedal models. 2) they're VERY valuable. selling for over $2000 easily if in good condition and with matching numbers. 3) remember to reinforce the frame, as it's very thin and soft steel
Yea I've been thinking about getting a frame bar to help reinforce it. I knew there is kick start models but they are very hard to come by in the US so a kit is pretty much the best option. Thanks for the comment man!
I'd suggest to put slightly coat of oil on these gaskets that way they will not break if you will ever be remowing those covers
Yea that’s a great idea man
its a paper gasket it gets a bit wet on its own (and leaks)
@@TwoStrokeJ instead of oil, I've been laying a thin coat of grease on paper gaskets, both sides, makes the fitting on easier too as it sticks to the surface
congratulations, you now have a mokick, welcome to the club lmao
edit: in denmark and later on in other countries the Puch Maxi K and KL got rolled out, they also started coming with 2 speed manuals instead of automatics, other mopeds like Sachs, Hercules and Zündapp started rolling out interesting models like this too and Krediler Flory with a 5 speed manual too, america doesn't seem to have gotten nearly as many bikes as other countries, but one of my personal favorite mopeds is the Suzuki K50 and Sachs G3, I own a Suzuki myself and some other bikes too, I just wish the american market had more like it, I really would like to see more channels like yours
yea I agree, I've seen sachs G3 here, and we do have puch za50 motors which are two speed, but the moped market here is just not very popular because any 16 year old can go buy a 600cc sport bike haha
That definition of moped you found on the internet is just nonsense...I own a Garelli VIP 3v with a motorcycle-derived 3 speed engine and it just came with kickstarter and pedal brake from factory😂... anyway cool stuff you did there, cheers from Italy!
great video dude, love this content style! cant wait to see more mods happening!
Glad you liked the style! Thanks for watching man!
When you got a Chance to try out the mvt Premium ignition try itxD it is a ignition where the stator is in the middle. By the vape ignition it is the opposite. You got less weight on the crankshaft. That gives you a snapierer throttle and it is just cool for a automatic transition. I swaped the mvt premium on my tomos moped here in Germany and I love it. By one of the professional stunters you could see a hpi ignition. It is the same as the mvt premium, but the mvt premium has coils for the light.
I have a HPI on a Zundapp motor, kind of shit to find the right ignition timing but once you get it… goddamn
That sounds like a good idea, might try that when I rebuild the entire motor
@@rodrigocorreia7040 Thats right I share the same opinion :D
@@TwoStrokeJ Sounds good :D
I had 1981 Peugeot 102sp in High school Back in 2002-2003 The thing actually ran awesome And was in great shape Wish I still had it . Had a cool crackle exhaust sound, Listen to it warm up on a cold morning . Rode it everywhere And then some. I gotta 82 Yamaha Towney Then 81 Honda express Then a 87 honda elite . The only one that was really a moped was the 1981 Peugeot 102sp
You may want to look into simson s51. Those are some East German mopeds that are really easy to mod and to stunt ride. Plus they just look awesome :)
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This guy's editing skills might not be the best, but the style is fucking insane, I love it
I appreciate that man! I was trying out a new style with this video and I think I really like it
this is the most sick vid that two stroke j has made maybe ever!
Damn thanks so much man! Do you actually like the style or are you joking haha
Hahahaha , I ride flatland and I'm old school which means I've never adapted to a free coaster ( pedals are stationary when rolling backwards ) . I still ride a freewheel for one reason ,... too much slack in a free coaster .
I bust a knee with all of the slack .
I feel your pain lol
The voice over makes it sound kinda funny 😂😂❤️
Love the vibe and the video like always
I appreciate that man! I wanted to try something a bit different!!
Loved the editing on this one. Intro had me rollin
Thanks haha wanted to get a bit more creative
i just get hyped everytime i see a new vid
That makes me feel good! Thanks bro!
@@TwoStrokeJ luv u bro keep it up
Another absolute BANGER LETS GOOOO
Big dog ROUUGGHH
Only americans like to argue about what it's moped or not(Lovers of the Minarelli V1 + MopedArmy communities). It's a motorcycle after all. Edit: Respect for learning and upgrading your bike properly!
yea man! I don't think anyone really cares except for the hard core people haha. but thanks man!
i live in switzerland and either you push it or you pedal it's just that i'm keeping my pedals on my mopeds cause i live uphill so if you lack power you pedal it's an assistance as well but most mopeds like a Piaggio ciao (Like my tuned one) can very easily be push-started wich isn't a problem to have pegs in that case but be careful it's better to have either a tuned mono or a PX-Vario cause in that case you'll still need the pedals to go uphill (hope you understand im watching the video and writing in the same time)
you should def upgrade you clutch
The Jasil clutch / Jammer clutch for e50 is very good for small budget
but you need extra polini springs for them to get the best power
I’m gunna try putting stiffer springs in the stock clutch first. Maybe when I completely build the engine again I will upgrade to a nicer clutch
@@TwoStrokeJ the treats or dos blue springs around 2-2.5 turns out from flush and lighten the shoes a hair and youll have a grabby around towner
Current 1978 JC Penny Pinto E50 Setup :
Treats 70cc Reed Kit
Treats 70cc Countersunk O-Ring Head
Malossi 4 Pedal Reed w/ 0.35mm Reeds
MLM VM20 Port Matched Intake
Mikuni VM20 Carb w/ Uni Filter
Treats “Puch Black Pipe” Exhaust
Stock 2-Shoe Puch Clutch
EBR Racing Maxi Forks
MLM Heavy Duty Maxi Swingarm
16x40 Gearing - Currently @ 52mph
I have a pretty similar setup. I don’t have reeds though, kit is not port matched, and I have a dellorto 19mm phbg carb. My top speed is about 45. I got a 43 tooth in the rear I think
Quality content as alwayss
Thanks for the love bro!! I need to get like you with the wheelies
@@TwoStrokeJ Haha thanks 🫶
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You should try wheeling 180cc moped like a runner or a zip its really fun
I would love to, I don’t think they exist in America though, would have to get one imported
@@TwoStrokeJ oo yeah yo right i forgot, would be a sick idea tho to do a build on one of these when no-one has one in your area
Intro is perfect. I learned what moped is
Always want my vids to be educational first
Super hard to find in Texas. I had to settle for a PhatMoto gas bike. I wish I could have got one of these!
damn, here in the balkans it's mad rare to see any mopeds with pedals, all of them have pegs and a kick start
Well I believed it started with Velo Solex, that's basicly a bike, with a little 2 stroke on top of the frontwheel, and only a frictionwheel to contact the frontwheel. Thats oldschool.
Puch in the late 70's made both a Puch Maxi P (pedals) and a Maxi K (Kickstart). Most mopeds after that did not have pedals.
In Denmark Puch Maxi K was and still is verry known and even driven by youngsters till this day.
But Denmark also have some wierd restrictions.
Fx: Mopeds/scooter can either be registrated as a "little moped" max 30kmh/19mph" wich 15 year olds can take a license fore, or the "big moped" max 45kmh/28mph fore 18+ year old.
Then there is the "little MC" wich is a Maxi Scooter... but you must be 18 year old just like cars. (You can get it as 17, but with conditions)
Its very different from the USA.
Banger video🥵 one question tho? 🤔 How do you bump start a moped with out a cluth-lever?
Even though I took the pedals off I left the clutch lever on so I could still engage the clutch. I finally took the lever off when I installed the kick starter, just didn’t show that in the video. Thanks for the support tho bro!
nicely done! i just threw a pull start on my ped! rip pedals💀
Good work! Eliminating pedals one moped at a time
me too lol, but i mounted it on a plastic cover and it didn't last very long
So weird seeing this moped outside of Europe, plus with italian mods parte like the proma.
Love me some Italy 🇮🇹
What you want is a "Noped" such as the Honda NS50 which is, in fact, a moped. But one without pedals. But doesnt that make it a scooter? Nope, damn sure doesnt! Scooters are feet forward, step thru's. Mopeds are seated like bicycles and motorcycles :)
daang that description of scooter vs moped actually makes a lot more sense
@@TwoStrokeJ the way i see it mopeds and scooters were always kind of a middle finger to the man. the manufactures trying new ways to stay a step ahead of govt regulations by producing motor vehicles for people that wouldnt or couldnt have a license. It was a great niche market to go after! And produced alot of quirky little motorbikes.
Clean clutch segments (the three centrifugal elements that is) with some gasoline cuz they stick when it’s getting warm from some gunk
hmm that could help man thanks!
Damn guys .. that thing would be worth a ton of cash here in Denmark ! ... it´s a icon from my mom and dads time !..My first moped was a Puch maxi p from 1969 ! .. i stil miss that ol gal ! ..
Yea man, even in the US moped value has gone way up. You used to find them for $200 now they are $1500
Yo 2stroke j you should look into the SSR Lazer 6 moped, straight out the box it's on the low end I think,it does look cool but needs mad upgrades
You ask what you have. A moped with a Kickstarter and without Pedals is a mokick!!
Sorry for my bad englisch, regards from germany, Boris!
That’s the perfect name! Haha
@@TwoStrokeJ that is really the name we use in Germany and in large parts of europe
In my country a moped is a vehicle with a 50cc engine with a top speed of 45 km/h (Legally) so I'd still say this is a moped without the pedals
Love the style of this video and the voice over stuff was funny man 🤙💪 ride safe brotha
You too bro! And thanks! I was trying something a little different!
Can the 19mm be properly adjusted with 70cc? in the sense that the carb is not too big?
In the Netherlands they say that a maximum of 17.5mm is possible on a 70cc
greetings from the Netherlands!
👏🏽 congrats. Beautiful moped!
thanks a lot man!
In Canada if you lose the pedals you can no longer class it as a bicycle so long as the engine is 49cc or less. After that you require a license and insurance so its no longer the hassle free cheap transpo it's supposed to be.
Yea I think it basically works like that in the US too
Personally I have a Yamaha QT50 so I don’t know what this is like but still a cool ass video
I appreciate the love man!
I yust have fun watching your videos ❤ stay safe
So going to get one some day
Yes man you should. They are very fun to mod
Used to race these on fields with a friend. Good fun
So much fun haha
This is good content bruh subscribed
I appreciate that bro!
Well puch maxis also came with a k e50. I think you should look for one
yea basically I turned my e50 into a k e50. those motors a super rare in the US
i have an puch maxi 1986 and that have kickstart much easyier then pedals ps they arent build for long rides or startet without driving it hurts the engine much
Yea haha I feel that
Try importing a tuned Derbi senda and then just absolutely rip around with it
I am doing that😂
@@williambjalandmoen2350 they're easy asf to tune
Sounds amazing haha
i have a romet v. 200 and it not only is bigger, looks cooler but stock with no pedals and with a kickstarter
it is dirt cheap too
Sounds sick but America doesn’t have bikes like that
I'd argue that if it has no pedals, then it's not a moped anymore ;)
This is really different from the ''mopeds'' we have in Finland. I don't even know if you can call them mopeds because they are just like a supermoto
Yea definitely, in America they only consider stuff with pedals mopeds. A 50cc dirtbike or supermoto would just be considered a supermoto
Bro got the Kicker nice.💪 I threw a pull Starter, Like the lawnmower Kind, in my shitbox, simply because it Costs a third of a Kicker.😅 Normaly i would be total with you about that one step ahead one step Back Thing but it Kind of doesn't Go Like this since i got that Maxi. Everything works Out perfectly, all Kinds of Chinacrap parts, Stuffing electronics in a beercan screwed to the frame, 70cc, carburator, everything First try Bullseye shots.🤣 Wait did i mention the Gardenhose Air Filter sucky Setup?🤦😭🤣
Damn you may be the luckiest man in mopeds haha! It’s very rare that I install a part that works first try… probably because I’m a shit mechanic haha
@@TwoStrokeJ Trust me with all Other Bikes i have its fixing some Shit and breaking Something Else. That Maxi is pure gold somehow. Baught a burned frame with wheels and everything Else went Just awesome. I dont say it works the way its meant to be, but it works good.
Back in the day in 1980 and earlier, there was an rule that every moped needs to have pedals otherwise it would be an motorcycle even if it was an 49cc
Yea haha seems dumb to me but that’s how they justified younger people riding them I guess
I have a puch maxi k it is the most common in Denmark and it does not have pedals but a kickstarter
Yea I think the pedals are more common in the US. It was there way of making it seem ok to let 14 and 15 year olds ride them haha
Google Tomos 15SLC, I have two of those, stock revs around 9k rpm
Damn sounds sick, probably doesn’t exist in the US
nice maxi man, really like the color
Thanks man! I love it too
Should get a water cooled 65 cc kit 😎
that would be super crazy
i refuse to put peggs on my vespa ciao, i like the fact that it looks original and then see al the faces when i pull it up xD
That is true, if you are trying to keep it classic and original you would want to keep the pegs!
my peugeot 103 SP (original, no tuning) could easily be started by using a pedal as a kickstart, or pushing it just 1 second with a little bit more power. It also ran 60km/h Original. Sold it for 1800 euro and bought a Gilera SMT 50. I am from germany.
Nice man! I want to get my hands on a Gilera Runner 180 but they are sooo rare
in my youth, cops pulled you all the time, which is reason i hate cops now, pulled several hundred times on mopeds, then they demanded you pedal it, as long as it pedaled, they told you to go on, but if you removed them, it became a motorcycle, then they ticketed you for unlicensed motorcycle, several companies offered similar designs with only pegs, Suzuki FA50 for example, which was supposed to be legalized, but because so many were sold before law changed, they decided to keep law, and demand those with pegs be registered and tagged, if a person removed chain, on those with 2 chains, and couldnt pedal it, you could expect a ticket, it was horrible, sometimes pulled by city, county, and state police even in same day, it was always your guilty, until you prove your innocent, by proving it was a moped by pedaling it. yes my primary 1 was a magnum with high tank, but i owned dozens of regular mopeds, hated Garelli? and there was a French 1 best friend owned, nothing but breakdowns, I only liked Puch, Sachs, and Thomas, most reliable, and trouble free
you can drive it without plates?
its amazing seeing american people using puch maxi s/n because in switzerland we think no one besides us has maxi's. also every 2nd 14yo has a puch maxi or x30
Riding with the Puch pedals is pretty sketchy, but they help the weak-a** engine on hills.
U should try to put a ktm sx50 clutch in your puch. I have one in mine and it pulls way harder
Yea I heard that is a good option. Maybe when I rebuild the engine fully I will go that route
I love your videos
Thanks man! I love you!
by far the worst part about the moped community is hearing/reading "it doesn't have pedals, it's not a moped"
facts hahaha although most people don't really care which is good lmao
@@TwoStrokeJ I feel like pedals make cornering really awkward, pegs are always the first mod I do.
I have only ever seen a couple of mopeds in my life and I'm didn't even know people stuntez them. i stunt my ninja 600 and XT350 but not i want a moped cause of the insane gas mileage lol
VDM Puch parts is from Netherlands btw
Dang good to know. I love their company
Let’s gooo!!!!🔥
IM HYPE
Next you need to get a Derpi senda or Gilera RCR/smt
That would be sick
What type of moped is this? It looks like a posty bike
alot of slower scooters are actually classified as mopeds in many states
example, hone elite s 94-01 one of the most modifiable mopeds in the world for extreme engine performance
Yea man I have a 95 Honda elite it’s awesome
I built motorized bike, but I saw pull starter so I was like hell yeah
What kind of gearing are u riding and whats the top speed of that nice machine
The front sprocket is stock, not sure what it is. The back is a 43 tooth
Do a top speed test brodie!
I have in the past, it’s right around 45 mph!
Yea, my Kromag's keeping her pedals. She's a moped.
To each their own!
@@TwoStrokeJ betcha, cops pay less attention to me, tho. 😉 ...Well, cops kinda do in Michigan tho... I mean, our cc limit is 100cc's. 100cc 2 smokers can RIP. 🤣 (imagine a moped with a Yamaha KT100 engine in it..MBK comes to mind.......we can do that in Michigan. We're just not allowed to go 70+mph 🤣
well my tomos doesnt have pedals although the earlyer tomos automatics had pedals the later models didnt have them
Yea it’s weird almost all mopeds in America have them
What kind of cilinder you got on there?
Just a 70cc kit made by treatland.tv
In England they are called push peddle and farts
Lmao sounds epic
Nice video i kinda miss the banana bike tho.
It’s making a comeback, just been dealing with a lot irl. Trust me it will be starring in a lot of videos in the near future!
Once you take the pedals off, it’s a noped.
Should put a inner rotor ignition on that thing
Yea I think when I build the motor for real I’m gunna try one of those
haha tomos moppeds only have a kickstart at least most of them
Puch missed out I guess
What clutch do you have on your moped?
Stock clutch! I’ve never adjusted it or anything
@@TwoStrokeJ how is it still alive?
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most mopeds here in finland and many other european countries are 50cc supermotos and scooters
yea there are basically NONE of those in the US. I used to have a dt50 though
I've heard them called nopeds
Jway🤙🤙
yessir I still see you are out here!
alle aus Österreich erst mal ein Like da lassen 👍🏽
Brace the stock clutch and put dos springs in it
I got some stiffer springs I’m going to try!
@@TwoStrokeJ Be careful with them, if you tighten them in too much the clutch posts will bend
u should buy a supermoto style moped someday! but they are probably impossible to find in america tho.
Yea man! They are so rare in the US, very hard to find haha
Honda trail is kinda like a moped. And they should be available.
@@MrChanw11 yeah kind of, im talking about the european "tuning" mopeds like the Yamaha dt 50cc or Beta rr. for example
Fun fact. A velociped is a bicycle the name must come from the word velocity, a moped is a motovelociped.
That makes it sound so cool haha
here in Denmark, most of us grew up with mopeds, and we had a father or uncle who taught us how to make them work :)
Guess that’s gunna be me with my future son haha
Hey how many cc does the bike have
70cc
Damn I feel bad for your neighbors, please get a better muffler (just a better one, you don't have to get one that's more restrictive)
It’s way quieter than the sport bikes and Harley’s that other people start up around neighborhoods
@@TwoStrokeJ Please just consider it, just because others are louder that doesn't mean yours isn't loud either.
Why not a pull start? they are way cheaper
I just prefered the kick start to be honest
did you use helo coils
No but I think I should. One of them already basically stripped haha
Tire size
you need to bring the 125 back out
peep the video dropping later this week :)
Just saying u dint have to jump on it just pull the starting lever when u run i used to just walk and pull the lever once and it started
There’s no way that would work with mine haha it took way more force to get it to turn over. It’s a 70cc kit so I’m sure it have more compression that a stock so it’s harder to get to turn over
@@TwoStrokeJ if u have more compression its easier to start i also had a 70cc kit and if u jumped on while trying to start it is way harder