@@Kakashifan727 fax like i just watched the first episode of tlou, instead of velma and im so fucking excited for e2. never gonna even fucking open velma on hbo max
@@Kakashifan727 It's something you do with friends while drinking. The point isn't to enjoy hating the show, but enjoy hating the show with your fiends and making fun of it. Either that or sharing your thoughts on social media for the attention.
@@Kakashifan727 A simple explanation: Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: You can't complain about it if you haven't watched i Person 1: *starts watching* Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: You haven't given it a fair chance, watch it until the end. Person 1: *finishes show* Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: Person 2: wElL iF yOu DoN't LiKe It ThAn YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE wAtChEd It Person 1: Person 1: what the fu-
Remember everyone: Hate watching still gives them views, if you're going to hate watch, then pirate it or watch a reaction or smth, don't give them the views.
It’s short term Vs. long term. You make a hated show it’ll be remembered by many for a month. You make a loved show and it’ll be remembered by many for generations.
Satan: “My child will hate watch Velma and unintentionally support it.” (Moist) Jesus: “my child will pirate Velma, hate-watching it while not supporting the original.”
The worst art of all of this for me, is that RIGHT before this show Velma (the real Velma) was suddenly getting so much love on the Internet. So many random clips of her went viral, people began to say she was the hottest one in teh group, etc etc... she suddenly became beloved out of nowhere. It's like God said our opinion was wrong and sent this show to ruin Velma forever for everyone LMAO
Right it used to be cool to love Velma, she was the cute nerdy girl. But now it's going to be cringe associated with this show for a while. They ruined my fave character ☹️
@@shayrogers7560 i think as long as you make a distinction between *which* velma you love, no one is going to disagree with you. this show was pretty much universally hated, mostly for how horrifically it handled these beloved characters. everyone still likes normal velma and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if this causes a big resurgence of love for her and the IP itself.
to me i consider velma and "velma" to be 2 separate characters, one is a lovable girl who has a talking dog and the other is a horrible person who hates the concept of a human being good and hates everyone
I wonder if that was a sort of hidden campaign so people would become more aware of her and would then way more to see ""Velma"". Seen similar stuff happen in memes, when the steamdeck was announced suddenly every meme was a comparison between the switch and the steamdeck
I wonder if we did a deep dive on the people behind this and who incited them to make this... because it sounds all to coincidental that just as this old character gets love, that some kind of racial wedge gets driven in. Because they sure played the racial wedge with this one. There's a million other new stories that could be told, stories that would help everyone bond, right... but they picked up this rising peak to turn into rage baiting. I don't believe in coincidences and i'm betting that if we'd study the people behind this, we'd find some really fucked up "coincidences" with them too.
The more than likely thing happening here is what happens with a lot of animated shows on streaming services: splitting one production season in two and calling them different seasons. The news about Velma's "Season 2" starting production is likely just the second half of Season 1 getting started on, but calling it Season 2 drives social media more.
This is why you shouldn't hate watch bad movies or shows. Because it'll end up making the studios money anyway, and let them know that they can get away with pumping out raw sewage like Velma, and that they can continue to ruin these properties that we love.
@PenguiinzObro did you really make an account based off of Charlie’s real CZcams account name? Man you need to go outside right now and touch grass. Before you decide to eat someone or something weird like that 😂
The fact that Kaling openly admitted on a talk show to kissing a man on a movie set without his consent and then threatening to fire staff if they said anything, and is still in Hollywood is astounding.
This is why you should pirate things you hate, even if you have easy legal access to it. They can't see that you're viewing it if you aren't using _their_ service.
That isn't true, they can see how many times it's been downloaded they just don't get the money and therefore don't see the monetary value in producing more of that product. Unless there is a way for them to shut down those other avenues which good luck doing anything more than playing wack a mole
Sometimes it also can straight up be that the first season has a set amount of seasons but they just lie and say the second half is Season 2. They did it with a lot of CN shows that weren't plot heavy.
I heard a theory that it wasn’t actually a “full season” that was greenlit, but a set number of episodes. By splitting those episodes into “two seasons,” they don’t have to wait as long to air the show and can create the illusion of success.
For the sake of the masses… I hope that you’re right about that. By the way, a scammer tried to leave a scam comment on this thread, you might want to take care of that.
Season 1 is only 10 episodes so yeah. Usually when a network commission cartoons, they do it in batches of 26, sometimes splitting it into 13 episode half-seasons. I'm guessing they already had the first 10 ready and were going to announce the next 10 anyways, regardless of how disliked the show would be.
It’s the type of show that could potentially inspire others to make art all for terrible reasons. “I shouldn’t make art because I love the craft or want to actually contribute something amazing and creative. I should make art purely out of spite! Because hate makes it much easier for me to be seen in the world!” Hooray for soulless creation.
It’s going to be hilarious when they realize even the audience’s pleasure of hate-watching it will not last nearly long enough to make it to season 2. What a brainless financial risk.
I think it’s more of the fact they got this many people talking about it, and people probably go on HBO to hate watch it. It’s a win-win for HBO by putting a small amount of money in this
If moba players can play a game they loathe for years then it's not so unthinkable for people to watch a show they hate for years. There's a lot of people that just honestly hate themselves
The mental image of Charlie being the literal only person to keep watching Velma is hilarious. I picture him strapped down like in A Clockwork Orange, his eyes forcibly opened, forced to watch it. It is both horrifying for Charlie but humorous at the same time.
I'd rather watch Charlie watching Velma than Velma. You don't even need to capture the TV or audio, just have the camera behind whatever Charlie is watching it on and record his reactions.
Just as Jesus suffered on the cross to absolve sin for all of humanity, so must Moist Critikal take on the tortured role of the Only Hate Watcher (peace be upon him)
@@angus1513 Yep. And in the end, there is a dood aggregating data from sources all over the internet, with the numbers telling investors that the show drives an insane amount of engagement. I don't think the hate watchers are the important bit, it's us consuming content that got created out of hate watching and investors simply going with the numbers, not with ethics, morals or good taste.
I see a lot of people “watching Velma so you don’t have too” when enough people take it upon themselves to do that, hate watching literally becomes it’s own genre of movies. So well done for giving them the money they don’t deserve
I don't think hate watching can sustain the show. A lot of people are watching it RN because of curiosity (is it really as bad as everyone says it is? or just hate watching to bash on it, etc) because everyone is talking about it, but I doubt the interest will keep up for the rest of the season.
If big streamers hate watch but clearly direct people away I believe that's far better then saying it's mid and moving on. At least people can unify away from HBO and other crappy studios and pirate if they really want to watch it
Think about it this way: if CZcamsr A hate-watches something "so you don't have to", that's 100 people that AREN'T going to watch it, even hate-watch it, because watching their favorite CZcamsr react to it will wring any enjoyment that the series would have had for them.
This same thing happened with Seth Rogan's Santa Inc. All the streamers watched it and hate posted about it. Amidst the attention a season 2 was announced but it's been over a year and still no signs of a season 2 ever being made.
I think the fact so many content creators hate watch is what began this spree of hate-watching among the masses, to be honest. The amount of hate-watching that is happening these days is a pretty recent phenomenon, and the lack of genuinely good movies and shows these days is making it a more viable option.
Yall gotta remember. THE MONEY IS NOT MADE FROM THE PRODUCT THAT IS PUT OUT! ...the money is made from the views, and the clicks, and the comments... make up some brain dead shit for people to talk about, spread it like fire, and get paid for it. ITS THAT SIMPLE
Ignoring it and never even talking about it is much better option but people are incapable so here we are. I literally would have never heard of it if people weren't going on about how much they hate it for the last 2 days. I almost watched it. it's literally the fault of videos and comments like this.
In high school, I had an English teacher who taught a creative writing course as an elective. Took the class because I really looked up to him and was interested in writing at the time. He taught me a valuable lesson: You want the people reading to either love or hate your story and characters, but no in-between. You never want them to feel indifferent, because it means that it wasn't interesting at all. Now usually a writer isn't going to try to intentionally make their audience hate their writing ... But well, when it happens it ends up being very effective for a reason. Writing a story with the intention of making people hate it or hate watching/reading something isn't exactly a new fad. It's been around for a while. But if the suits think they can make more money off of shitty shows and that it's easier to produce them (so more profitable by comparison since they have to put in less work), then you can bet your sweet behind that you'll see more and more dog shit like Velma being released soon. That being said, even if Velma was one of the most watched shows on HBO, I doubt a lot of people paid for the subscription just to view that show specifically. It would make more sense if the people who already owned a subscription were the ones who watched it. People might buy things they hate just out of simple curiosity. But when you have two different shows competing for your wallet, assuming it's between a show you love and a show you hate you'll probably be more willing to pay for the former. So I can't really see this kind of thing sticking around in the long-term.
What an insightful and well thought out comment - you don't belong here, this is the yt comment section. You are (or easily could be) actually worth something in this society, now shoo.
Yeah, this. The model has a lot more viability on live TV, where advertising is making the money. In a subscription service? I agree that it's likely going to get about zero new actual subscribers, and consequentially be a financial loss, no matter how popular.
I'm just worried because they are prob not going to try another adult Scooby Doo series because of this i just want a series like Mystery inc. but 13+ or 18+ plz just PLZ!
When you're explaining why you love watching terrible things and experiencing terrible media, all I could imagine was a transparent dollar sign growing larger in the background
I don't think it's right for Charlie to be like; "No YOU CAN'T HATE WATCHING because then they'll win. Only I can hate watch it for you" He should also be watching it through pirated sources so they don't get that satisfaction
But he does it not just to watch it becuase he knew it was going to be bad, but for youtube to review and talk about it for his job, most people just want to watch it to watch it, if only a few youtbers and a few others watch it it will still hurt them
I'm pretty sure famous CZcamsrs have to watch this stuff legally if they plan on making money off of their videos or else suffer severe repercussions from the rights holders and/or CZcams itself. Pirating may be a legal gray area for personal/non-commercial consumption, especially for old stuff that is never being legally re-released (shut up, Nintendo!), but CZcamsrs normalizing piracy in their monetized videos potentially watched by millions is just asking for a lawsuit.
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise. I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat. ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
I think the thing with shows thriving off of hate is that eventually the hate gets old and they fade into irrelevancy, they simply don’t have the same bond that shows people like do
Hate Watching to me would be like if boycotting a product was to buy something then just break it in front of the person instead of not buy the product altogether. The latter sends the message more.
You soon realise how much of a burden carrying Velma season 2 is when you realise that Frodo actually needed a whole fellowship, and his Gardner to help him finish the job, saving his life over a dozen times and literally walking the entire way with him without leaving his side, and even allowing frodo to take the credit as the main hero of the whole journey. My hat is truly off to Charlie on this one.
I actually love the idea of only content creators watching these shows to make content. If this became mainstream it would mean serious damage to the bottom line of these shows and we all still get to make fun of it as a community, without even having to endure the pain of these terrible shows. I think Charlie’s really onto something here.
That would be awesome all things considered, it would definitely make WB make some serious changes to their plans, maybe have more positive watching instead, heck the freaking Harley Quinn Adult Swim series got as much talk as it did cause the show slaps and has countless memeable moments that everyone can't stop talking about, so if WB can do that with one show they can do it with another, either it means "fixing" Velma as a show to make it "watchable" or just making a new series, like I would kill for a Adult Swim Lobo show, cause that character could be the next best thing to Deadpool if WB handles him right.
@@TheKewlPerson Same Tbh, my adhd brain won’t even let me watch something that’s not entertaining, I lose focus too easily lol. I just didn’t realize hate watching was common enough that moneys still able to be made off it.
in 2050 historians will remember 2023 as the year we narrowly avoided nuclear war as Germany is considering sending tanks to Ukraine, we got Velma season 2 and everyone just found someone else to hate... together. Mindy Whatsherface.
The fact that Velma is greenlit for season 2 when Inside Job season 2 just got cancelled really speaks to the power of publicity (good or very bad in this case)… Thank you Charlie for hate watching so I don’t have to o7 I will continue to try to support my favorite shows like Inside Job in the hopes that they get renewed 😭
Charlie is a true hero. I recently broke out in hives and have been wondering what could have caused this predicament. Thinking back, I only started to have this reaction after watching the first episode of Velma. Its as if my my body could not accept the absolute atrocity that is Velma, starting a severe allergic reaction after having witnessed the pits of hell when it comes to bad writing. Props to Charlie for doing us all a favor and saving us from the pain and suffering ahead
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise. I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat. ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
you're still really invested in something not cause u like it but because it's interesting or intrigues you. whether it's directly or not I'd still say that's contributing to it's overall popularity
As someone who works on films and animation, I can tell you right now that usually 2 seasons are ordered when any animated show is made Usually the next season is around 1/4 of the way done by the time the first season comes out That's why so many shows are "renewed for season 2" whether they were good or bad: they were already being worked on
Weird that’s almost the exact opposite of what I would’ve thought. A show being cancelled on season two feels strange to me. I thought I had noticed a ton of shows being cancelled on either season one or season three with two being the outlier
This is the oldest trick in the book of streaming media. Producers greenlight a batch of 30-40 episodes and then split them into two seasons but withhold the information of the second to the public part till the series airs so they can brag about how successful the show is. That's why it seems like no matter how bad a show is they always have at least two seasons.
but why? this doesn't answer anything. if nobody watches it then they burned capital on making more episodes. it's a private business and their job is to make profits, not to pretend bad shows are popular. it's not a government agency that can burn funds on pumping out propaganda.
@JewTube001 investors form a 1 season contract and rather than make another contract, they duplicate the amount ordered in order to save money and time making contract since it is the same amount of money offered at the beginning
I’m in the animation industry and it’s pretty common nowadays for shows to be ordered two seasons at a time with the second season just not announced/released until the first comes out. So perhaps it isn’t that Velma’s so popular it’s getting a season 2. But more it wasn’t bad enough for the season 2 already being made to be cancelled.
@@davidhong1934 commitment no matter how stupid the product will be. It happened with sequel Star Wars and the toys they made, to this day you can run into one of those toys in your local target I believe.
@@davidhong1934 I'm assuming because they think anything will hit it BIG, so after the second season runs dry and the big big numbers don't come in, cancelled, same fate for each subsequent season.
It works the first few weeks as there's interest in the social media discussion around it, but it gets old quickly and people move on, and the clicks on the stories/videos stop. The hate watching only lives while the discussion does, and I just don't see it as sustainable.
“Is it truly so popular from hate watching that they can justify another season for rage baiting” is one of the most interesting quotes I’ve heard in a long time
It's taking the exact slice that "news" media does. Rage gets clicks, it gets views, it gets shared, and they profit... At the demise if society. Unfortunately that has people fighting each other over divisive topics who would most likely hang out and have a beer, or cook on the grill.
The most fun part of watching Charlie's videos is painting a picture in your head of all the witty and sometimes silly metaphors he throws at you, hilarious
The way I look at hate watching, is that it’s the same as giving trolls attention. Them getting a interaction out of you is exactly what they wanted and just encourages them to do the exact same thing they’ve been doing. The more you give them attention, the more it shows they can get results from you: the target.
I've been letting Charlie cover my awful shows for a long time now, and I didn't stop at Velma. This world needs to wake up and let Charlie do this for us.
The scariest part is that this could be the start of a new trend of bastardizing IPs we all know and love simply because studios know they’ll make rage money off us…strange times we live in
Start? No, this is but the peak of the trend you fear. Hollywood has been doing it for years, with everything from The Witcher to Halo to Star Wars to far too many to count. My fear is the peak will last so long it becomes the new norm, and shows like Velma will be competing to be the most unbearable piece of "entertainment" possible. It started with not caring about quality control, then dropped to actively (and openly) hating the IPs they work on and their fans. Now it has seemingly taken on the trend's final form with Velma, which is to actively hate all of humanity and do everything in their power to inflict as much pain and suffering on us as humanly possible.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 nah, it started with fans asking for IPs to return, only to hate on or ignore the very IPs that they want to return. Velma doesn't get made without 15 Scooby Doo reboots failing and the fans still asking for more when they couldn't support the 15 reboots they wanted.
@@majinnando6711 I've watched 15 Scooby Doo reboots and loved them all. I don't know anyone who was a fan of the original that didn't like at least the first 15 years of reboots/sequels/movies, so I am not sure where "hate or ignore" comes from, because Scooby Doo content has always been fire before this dumpster fire took "fire" literally and set fire to the franchise. EDIT: Now that I am thinking about it, reviews I have seen even say things like "How could you screw up something so easy to get right?" about Scooby Doo because it has *always* been successful in whatever form it takes. The live action movies even had what, 3, 4? because they were doing well despite being considered "the worst" of the franchise pre-Velma.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 well hey, that's dope, from what I've seen though Scrappy Doo, What's New Scooby Doo, and a bunch of other reboots, spinoffs, etc. were booted from network for lack of viewers, or people not even knowing they existed, and then those same people asking for a new Scooby Doo when they didn't support or watch any of the content that came out the last 35 years chocked full of Scooby and the gang in their original form. My point basically is I'm seeing a lot of people who watch this and then ask why Scooby Doo isn't being made, when it has been, they just didn't care enough to support until they changed something about it to attract new viewers. Also, let's not lie, Velma compared to Scrappy Doo makes Velma look like a piece of art, I refuse to think anyone who actually watched Scrappy Doo puts it over Velma as a better show when that entire show was a dumpster fire.
@@majinnando6711 I cannot take seriously anyone who says Velma is better than literally anything, much less any other Scooby Doo IP out there. While I personally prefer when the gang is together over Scrappy Doo, but my dad (60) loves Scrappy Doo and still watches it to this day. I cannot see a single person actually watching Velma years after it airs. Also, you do not seem to understand how Scooby Doo operates if you think it keeps getting "cancelled." It was a seasonal show from the start, meaning each new season was it's own self-contained show with it's own name. It was only in the modern day that each individual show started having a few year runs for more modern, lengthy arcs. As far as I can tell, the show has never been dropped due to ratings. They just finish the arc they wanted to tell then start on the next one.
Man, so true, I heard this show was terrible and yet several of my friends literally watched it because they heard all the drama around it being so bad. It doesn’t matter if its crap, if people keep eating it, they’ll keep making it!
Well the thing with streaming shows is people watching it is completely irrelevant. New people paying the subscription to watch it is the problem. If ANYONE in their right mind who didn’t already have a subscription got one to watch this abomination id question their sanity if they’re just hate watching.
@@herdoman5169 If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. But that doesn't mean you can keep others from watching it, you're not their mother.
Don't for a second think they don't keep tabs on how downloaded shit is. Just don't watch stuff that you hate, there is so much good media around, espand there instead
The unbeatable combo of 'There's no such thing as bad publicity' and 'Hate-watching still counts as views'
I've never understood hate watching tbh. If i want to use my time i'll use it on something i love. maybe curiosity watching but not pure hate
@@Kakashifan727 fax like i just watched the first episode of tlou, instead of velma and im so fucking excited for e2. never gonna even fucking open velma on hbo max
@@Kakashifan727 It's something you do with friends while drinking. The point isn't to enjoy hating the show, but enjoy hating the show with your fiends and making fun of it.
Either that or sharing your thoughts on social media for the attention.
Unless they do like all my friends and pirate it
@@Kakashifan727 A simple explanation:
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2: You can't complain about it if you haven't watched i
Person 1: *starts watching*
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2: You haven't given it a fair chance, watch it until the end.
Person 1: *finishes show*
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2:
Person 2: wElL iF yOu DoN't LiKe It ThAn YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE wAtChEd It
Person 1:
Person 1: what the fu-
Remember everyone: Hate watching still gives them views, if you're going to hate watch, then pirate it or watch a reaction or smth, don't give them the views.
my apologies for your replies
Amen
@@eatatjoes6149 bot problem's out of control
It’s like the bots have created a bond with the K/K/K
I use soap2day
It’s short term Vs. long term. You make a hated show it’ll be remembered by many for a month. You make a loved show and it’ll be remembered by many for generations.
And if I've learned anything, it's that big corporations only care about short-term gains.
short term velmas
Facts!
Facts!
they only acre about the money
Satan: “My child will hate watch Velma and unintentionally support it.”
(Moist) Jesus: “my child will pirate Velma, hate-watching it while not supporting the original.”
The Almighty Moist: "My child will not watch anything affiliated with Velma, but watch Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated instead"
The writers have serious talent they were able to make everyone's favorite childhood character unlikable and made everyone hate it.
HUH
Of course. Making every step wrong do takes some sort of gifted power.
@Yourfavoriterabbit wtf
@Soul ⸜⁄ get well soon
@soul_0101, it's fine. You're allowed to have the shitiest show as your favorite. I just wouldn't go around telling everyone that.
“It sucks fuck” is still better dialogue improvised by Charlie in 2 seconds than Velma with a writers room can ever do in 2 seasons.
Literally right after he said that my brain was like, “New colloquialism acquired!”
the writers room was just mindy cloning herself
Pretty sure I've heard AVGN say that one. Honestly if it has fuck in it he's probably said it at some point.
@@RealLockheedMartin yep he did
@@RealLockheedMartin “it sucks monkey fuck”
The worst art of all of this for me, is that RIGHT before this show Velma (the real Velma) was suddenly getting so much love on the Internet. So many random clips of her went viral, people began to say she was the hottest one in teh group, etc etc... she suddenly became beloved out of nowhere. It's like God said our opinion was wrong and sent this show to ruin Velma forever for everyone LMAO
Right it used to be cool to love Velma, she was the cute nerdy girl. But now it's going to be cringe associated with this show for a while. They ruined my fave character ☹️
@@shayrogers7560 i think as long as you make a distinction between *which* velma you love, no one is going to disagree with you. this show was pretty much universally hated, mostly for how horrifically it handled these beloved characters. everyone still likes normal velma and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if this causes a big resurgence of love for her and the IP itself.
to me i consider velma and "velma" to be 2 separate characters, one is a lovable girl who has a talking dog and the other is a horrible person who hates the concept of a human being good and hates everyone
I wonder if that was a sort of hidden campaign so people would become more aware of her and would then way more to see ""Velma"". Seen similar stuff happen in memes, when the steamdeck was announced suddenly every meme was a comparison between the switch and the steamdeck
I wonder if we did a deep dive on the people behind this and who incited them to make this... because it sounds all to coincidental that just as this old character gets love, that some kind of racial wedge gets driven in. Because they sure played the racial wedge with this one. There's a million other new stories that could be told, stories that would help everyone bond, right... but they picked up this rising peak to turn into rage baiting. I don't believe in coincidences and i'm betting that if we'd study the people behind this, we'd find some really fucked up "coincidences" with them too.
“The worst news the world has received since the bubonic plague”
shit kills me every time💀😂
Charlie explaining his showering position was a better plot than 99% of shows today
5 bots in 1 min 😞
damn, 5 bots in under a minute. thats crazy
@Yourfavoriterabbit I agree, we gotta show some support to Niger! 🇳🇪🇳🇪🇳🇪
Or, barf.
Christ 5 bots replied to your comment in under a minute wtf
I hate that Velma has a chance at a season two when there’s so many other shows that people LOVE that deserve it
best example i can give of something that should've gotten another season is infinity train
Invincible
No Game No Life
Moral Orel
Firefly had half of season but shitty shows like this get multiple seasons
The more than likely thing happening here is what happens with a lot of animated shows on streaming services: splitting one production season in two and calling them different seasons. The news about Velma's "Season 2" starting production is likely just the second half of Season 1 getting started on, but calling it Season 2 drives social media more.
This is why you shouldn't hate watch bad movies or shows. Because it'll end up making the studios money anyway, and let them know that they can get away with pumping out raw sewage like Velma, and that they can continue to ruin these properties that we love.
Just 🏴☠️ it then
@@WhuppopotamusYT I support this, pirate those mfs and hate watch it like that! Why are people actually paying to hate watch??
"I'll bear the burden of their sin and carry it for all of us"
And so Charlie finally completed his transformation and became christ
I thought he was Asmongold🤣
@PenguiinzObro did you really make an account based off of Charlie’s real CZcams account name?
Man you need to go outside right now and touch grass.
Before you decide to eat someone or something weird like that 😂
I tell everyone that he’s CZcams Jesus, this is just more proof
@@theisgood0 it's a bot why you are wasting your time
full circle
The fact that Kaling openly admitted on a talk show to kissing a man on a movie set without his consent and then threatening to fire staff if they said anything, and is still in Hollywood is astounding.
Wait what
Thats how holly wood works
Tbf tons of people in Hollywood have done shit like that and worse and still get away with it
@@yoot3008ones that publicly admit it?
After the whole Cardi b thing idk why y’all are surprised
This is why you should pirate things you hate, even if you have easy legal access to it. They can't see that you're viewing it if you aren't using _their_ service.
That isn't true, they can see how many times it's been downloaded they just don't get the money and therefore don't see the monetary value in producing more of that product. Unless there is a way for them to shut down those other avenues which good luck doing anything more than playing wack a mole
People just don't know how to hate watch properly. It's easy you just have to sail the seven seas.
Giving shows like Velma a season 2 is insane compared to some of the top rated shows that still haven’t been given new seasons.
Cough cough Netflix
4 bots
5 BOTS
6?!?
CZcams you gotta do something about this
Charlie solo watching Velma is like the action guy that stays behind to manually detonate the explosives. Truly the noblest of sacrifices.
Somebody help him.
This cracked me up 😂
Gamer Jesus moment
@YeaMan 🤡
@hello The irony is I wouldn't even know it existed were it not for all the people complaining about it.
There's always a possibility that it got its second season approved before the show even aired. That happens every now and then in the industry.
Sometimes it also can straight up be that the first season has a set amount of seasons but they just lie and say the second half is Season 2. They did it with a lot of CN shows that weren't plot heavy.
6:51 Charlie really embraced being CZcams Jesus right there
It all makes sense
I heard a theory that it wasn’t actually a “full season” that was greenlit, but a set number of episodes. By splitting those episodes into “two seasons,” they don’t have to wait as long to air the show and can create the illusion of success.
For the sake of the masses… I hope that you’re right about that.
By the way, a scammer tried to leave a scam comment on this thread, you might want to take care of that.
Yeah, that's what happened with Infinity Train and Cuphead. So if they're already working on S2 of Velma that's probably the case
that makes sense, especially when you consider how quickly they announced it. it wasnt that big of a success, theres no reason to renew so quickly
@@Nameless-ln5mr you might want to take care of that 🤓 what is he meant to do about it lmao
Season 1 is only 10 episodes so yeah. Usually when a network commission cartoons, they do it in batches of 26, sometimes splitting it into 13 episode half-seasons. I'm guessing they already had the first 10 ready and were going to announce the next 10 anyways, regardless of how disliked the show would be.
It’s the type of show that could potentially inspire others to make art all for terrible reasons.
“I shouldn’t make art because I love the craft or want to actually contribute something amazing and creative. I should make art purely out of spite! Because hate makes it much easier for me to be seen in the world!”
Hooray for soulless creation.
Firefly got 1 season and Velma already had a second on the way? Thats just insane...
It’s going to be hilarious when they realize even the audience’s pleasure of hate-watching it will not last nearly long enough to make it to season 2. What a brainless financial risk.
The fighter and the kid has been living exclusively off hate watching for 8 years.
I think it’s more of the fact they got this many people talking about it, and people probably go on HBO to hate watch it. It’s a win-win for HBO by putting a small amount of money in this
I’m glad they’re gonna waste their fucking money lmao it’s hilarious
ESG bucks sadly means they won't lose any money, but it's the principle that counts
If moba players can play a game they loathe for years then it's not so unthinkable for people to watch a show they hate for years. There's a lot of people that just honestly hate themselves
The mental image of Charlie being the literal only person to keep watching Velma is hilarious. I picture him strapped down like in A Clockwork Orange, his eyes forcibly opened, forced to watch it. It is both horrifying for Charlie but humorous at the same time.
Or like robot chicken
@Soul ⸜⁄ and a awful day to you too
I'd rather watch Charlie watching Velma than Velma. You don't even need to capture the TV or audio, just have the camera behind whatever Charlie is watching it on and record his reactions.
Just as Jesus suffered on the cross to absolve sin for all of humanity, so must Moist Critikal take on the tortured role of the Only Hate Watcher (peace be upon him)
Or he watches it does a 10 minute youtube video and makes a fortune.....
"it sucks fuck" genuinely one of the greatest lines, i will now be using this quote in my everyday life
Charlie blinks once for every syllable he speaks
Letting Charlie watch the shitty shows for me is literally what I've always been doing lol. Charlie makes it such a fun experience
Fully agreed. Charlie is more entertaining, and his unscripted takes are 1000x better than the bin juice writing of any of these dumpster fires.
@@angus1513 Yep. And in the end, there is a dood aggregating data from sources all over the internet, with the numbers telling investors that the show drives an insane amount of engagement. I don't think the hate watchers are the important bit, it's us consuming content that got created out of hate watching and investors simply going with the numbers, not with ethics, morals or good taste.
The same way we ignore the bots in the comments, we need to ignore these shows and just get the recap, or pirate it. Haha
@@Swibbeyp
@diabeto12 p2
I see a lot of people “watching Velma so you don’t have too” when enough people take it upon themselves to do that, hate watching literally becomes it’s own genre of movies. So well done for giving them the money they don’t deserve
if im hate watching im streaming it illegally, they aint getting a dollar for me 😭
I don't think hate watching can sustain the show. A lot of people are watching it RN because of curiosity (is it really as bad as everyone says it is? or just hate watching to bash on it, etc) because everyone is talking about it, but I doubt the interest will keep up for the rest of the season.
If big streamers hate watch but clearly direct people away I believe that's far better then saying it's mid and moving on. At least people can unify away from HBO and other crappy studios and pirate if they really want to watch it
Think about it this way: if CZcamsr A hate-watches something "so you don't have to", that's 100 people that AREN'T going to watch it, even hate-watch it, because watching their favorite CZcamsr react to it will wring any enjoyment that the series would have had for them.
or just pirate the show
I find that apathy is the best way to let things like this die. If nobody cares in any capacity, even just to hate it, these things will go away.
Hate playing is the reason Pokémon still gets such high sales. You cannot convince me otherwise.
It's insane how widely loved shows from places like Netflix will still get canceled, yet Velma is hated by the world and it gets renewed.
Except Velma is on HBO Max, and HBO Max is now taking notes from Netflix.
Still mad about mindhunter
The OA comes to mind
This same thing happened with Seth Rogan's Santa Inc. All the streamers watched it and hate posted about it. Amidst the attention a season 2 was announced but it's been over a year and still no signs of a season 2 ever being made.
Inside Job was cancelled yet garbage like big mouth still has new seasons
“My boy George got curious and it led to all kinds of adventures” is officially my new favorite Charlie line.
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ Happy 5th Birthday, Samuel! 🥳🤗
@Brian Pepper Happy 5th birthday, Samuel! 🥳🤗🤗
wtf!? THE BOTS ARE EVOLVING!!! RUN!
@@arcrisgonzaga7324 runnn🥹🥹
HBO max cancelling over 30 animated shows from their service but Velma gets a new season
I think the fact so many content creators hate watch is what began this spree of hate-watching among the masses, to be honest. The amount of hate-watching that is happening these days is a pretty recent phenomenon, and the lack of genuinely good movies and shows these days is making it a more viable option.
Velma is the definition of: “Task Failed Successfully”
i am convinced they knew exactly what they were doing
Mindy Kaling is failing upwards.
I think they knew what they were doing, they know hate watching generates money.
Yall gotta remember. THE MONEY IS NOT MADE FROM THE PRODUCT THAT IS PUT OUT! ...the money is made from the views, and the clicks, and the comments... make up some brain dead shit for people to talk about, spread it like fire, and get paid for it. ITS THAT SIMPLE
Sse: Batwoman
Alright, Season 2 is in the works, we have time to prepare
Spread the word, rally the troops
DON'T HATE WATCH SEASON TWO
Ignoring it and never even talking about it is much better option but people are incapable so here we are. I literally would have never heard of it if people weren't going on about how much they hate it for the last 2 days. I almost watched it. it's literally the fault of videos and comments like this.
@@Bolsty7 Velma is coming for you
This is just like when gamers “boycott” the latest new game and then the game ends up breaking pre order sales records
At least pirate it if you're weird enough to hate watch it
Say it with us, DONT👏🏽HATE👏🏽WATCH👏🏽IT👏🏽
I feel so guilty for finishing She-Hulk.... I just wanted to see Daredevil.
I’ve yet to even see a meme of this show. Only way I knew it existed was from mentions in livestream chats. I hope the algorithm keeps it that way.
It’s inspiring that Charlie is going to bear the sins of others for the SECOND time
Hallelujah
charlies the real jesus isn't he?
@@Username12038 he was resurrected, a popular youtuber is the perfect diguise
Praise be
Praise his name! He has died for the sins of the network. Repent and stop watching bad media!
In high school, I had an English teacher who taught a creative writing course as an elective. Took the class because I really looked up to him and was interested in writing at the time. He taught me a valuable lesson: You want the people reading to either love or hate your story and characters, but no in-between. You never want them to feel indifferent, because it means that it wasn't interesting at all.
Now usually a writer isn't going to try to intentionally make their audience hate their writing ... But well, when it happens it ends up being very effective for a reason. Writing a story with the intention of making people hate it or hate watching/reading something isn't exactly a new fad. It's been around for a while. But if the suits think they can make more money off of shitty shows and that it's easier to produce them (so more profitable by comparison since they have to put in less work), then you can bet your sweet behind that you'll see more and more dog shit like Velma being released soon.
That being said, even if Velma was one of the most watched shows on HBO, I doubt a lot of people paid for the subscription just to view that show specifically. It would make more sense if the people who already owned a subscription were the ones who watched it. People might buy things they hate just out of simple curiosity. But when you have two different shows competing for your wallet, assuming it's between a show you love and a show you hate you'll probably be more willing to pay for the former. So I can't really see this kind of thing sticking around in the long-term.
i read allat and it was good
Maybe we'll learn our lesson before it's too late
Yes
What an insightful and well thought out comment - you don't belong here, this is the yt comment section. You are (or easily could be) actually worth something in this society, now shoo.
Yeah, this. The model has a lot more viability on live TV, where advertising is making the money.
In a subscription service? I agree that it's likely going to get about zero new actual subscribers, and consequentially be a financial loss, no matter how popular.
it nearly feels like it’s bad on purpose cuz they knew this would happen
I have never heard of idea of hate watching. I guess I value my time.
6:51 Charlie slowly accepting that he is Jesus
I am not worried about a season 2, I am worried about this becoming the meta for film production
I'm just worried because they are prob not going to try another adult Scooby Doo series because of this i just want a series like Mystery inc. but 13+ or 18+ plz just PLZ!
it already is
Yeah this has been done for a while
Yeah, I wonder how will the studios outdone themselves by making shittier shows.
@@relicsplace9218 Why the fuck do you want an official Scooby Doo porno?
"you hate-watched but you still watched and that's all that matters to the suits" is probably the wisest thing I have ever heard coming from twitter
When you're explaining why you love watching terrible things and experiencing terrible media, all I could imagine was a transparent dollar sign growing larger in the background
I don't think it's right for Charlie to be like; "No YOU CAN'T HATE WATCHING because then they'll win. Only I can hate watch it for you"
He should also be watching it through pirated sources so they don't get that satisfaction
But if he's the only one to watch it, where will he get the pirated version from?
But he does it not just to watch it becuase he knew it was going to be bad, but for youtube to review and talk about it for his job, most people just want to watch it to watch it, if only a few youtbers and a few others watch it it will still hurt them
Yes
I'm pretty sure famous CZcamsrs have to watch this stuff legally if they plan on making money off of their videos or else suffer severe repercussions from the rights holders and/or CZcams itself. Pirating may be a legal gray area for personal/non-commercial consumption, especially for old stuff that is never being legally re-released (shut up, Nintendo!), but CZcamsrs normalizing piracy in their monetized videos potentially watched by millions is just asking for a lawsuit.
@@JeffreyThrash He doesn't have to say how he watched it tho
Charlie sacrificing himself so we don't have to hate watch. Bless him
he just like jesus fr
I actually enjoy the show
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise.
I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat.
ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons
Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
You look just like Buddy Holly, anyone ever tell you that?
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ Wrong channel
I think the thing with shows thriving off of hate is that eventually the hate gets old and they fade into irrelevancy, they simply don’t have the same bond that shows people like do
Stranger things and house of the dragon
@@ayoCC They're actually relatively decent. They don't really butcher anything or be purposefully shit
@@Khergit I thought they were positive examples
@@ayoCC ? but you listed them as a response to the original comment which indicates they're shows that thrive off hate
@@Khergit well I'd did intend for them to be positive examples 😂
Hate Watching to me would be like if boycotting a product was to buy something then just break it in front of the person instead of not buy the product altogether. The latter sends the message more.
Charlie carrying the burden of Velma season 2 on his shoulders is more heroic then Frodo carrying the ring to Mordor
Yes
I'm grateful that he would put himself out there for all of us, but I'm afraid of the risks he will take.
Only he can do it for he is the only one with the purest heart 🧔🏻♀️
You soon realise how much of a burden carrying Velma season 2 is when you realise that Frodo actually needed a whole fellowship, and his Gardner to help him finish the job, saving his life over a dozen times and literally walking the entire way with him without leaving his side, and even allowing frodo to take the credit as the main hero of the whole journey.
My hat is truly off to Charlie on this one.
*"You're right mister Charlie, I can't watch it for you. But I can watch you!"*
I actually love the idea of only content creators watching these shows to make content. If this became mainstream it would mean serious damage to the bottom line of these shows and we all still get to make fun of it as a community, without even having to endure the pain of these terrible shows. I think Charlie’s really onto something here.
That would be awesome all things considered, it would definitely make WB make some serious changes to their plans, maybe have more positive watching instead, heck the freaking Harley Quinn Adult Swim series got as much talk as it did cause the show slaps and has countless memeable moments that everyone can't stop talking about, so if WB can do that with one show they can do it with another, either it means "fixing" Velma as a show to make it "watchable" or just making a new series, like I would kill for a Adult Swim Lobo show, cause that character could be the next best thing to Deadpool if WB handles him right.
I like this idea
I never even bother hate watching shows and always just skip to watching the CZcamsrs talk about it
@@TheKewlPerson Same Tbh, my adhd brain won’t even let me watch something that’s not entertaining, I lose focus too easily lol. I just didn’t realize hate watching was common enough that moneys still able to be made off it.
The youtubers are literally more boring than the show lmao
I'm starting to believe that Charlie actually is the Jesus Christ: director's cut edition.
Bro rlly turned into jesus with the worlds sin being velma
"The opposite of love isn't hate. It's apathy. " - razorfist
Okay so if hate isn't the opposite of love what is hate the opposite of? I'm legitimately curious.
@@darkcrimsonmagi6528 Hate is the opposite of fear, maybe?
@@darkcrimsonmagi6528 Also apathy
No the opposite of fear is horror is comedy. So the opposite of fear is laughter.
What video
Let's give props to the "Velma" show for doing something I never thought possible.
Uniting the Internet
in 2050 historians will remember 2023 as the year we narrowly avoided nuclear war as Germany is considering sending tanks to Ukraine, we got Velma season 2 and everyone just found someone else to hate... together. Mindy Whatsherface.
Video Description: "This is the greatest season 2 of All Time"
Invincible Season 2: Am I a joke to you?
The fact that Velma is greenlit for season 2 when Inside Job season 2 just got cancelled really speaks to the power of publicity (good or very bad in this case)… Thank you Charlie for hate watching so I don’t have to o7 I will continue to try to support my favorite shows like Inside Job in the hopes that they get renewed 😭
Season 2 was paid for at the same time as season 1. That's how animation works.
Charlie is a true hero. I recently broke out in hives and have been wondering what could have caused this predicament. Thinking back, I only started to have this reaction after watching the first episode of Velma. Its as if my my body could not accept the absolute atrocity that is Velma, starting a severe allergic reaction after having witnessed the pits of hell when it comes to bad writing. Props to Charlie for doing us all a favor and saving us from the pain and suffering ahead
Get better soon
But you should have not assumed your mortal form can handle the sheer amount of cringe velma can output
Velma gave me a cough and the gerd. I wonder why our government hasn't yet come up with a plan to stop the spread of Velma? Old people are dying.
look at my banner hector !
@@user-cb9cd5qj6kYou’re always here do something with your life please.
Charlie describing how he showers is a better plot then all Velma episodes.
@hello your a bot but your not wrong
@@ultradeathboy He's not the bot you damn goofy goober. it's the weird guy above him that you wanna grill.
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise.
I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat.
ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons
Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
He’s completely right. I never heard of this until I saw multiple hate videos about it in my feed.
3:33 don't you EVER compare Velma to Morbius again.
i never hate watch, i find it more enjoyable to watch people react to the shows and then make 6 hour video essays on them lol
Facts lol 😂
you're still really invested in something not cause u like it but because it's interesting or intrigues you. whether it's directly or not I'd still say that's contributing to it's overall popularity
The show is actually very good if your never watch scooby doo
Me too. The jokes are much better. But I just feel bad to those who watched it. But I hear ignoring stuff like this is much better.
Or just read plot or recap, so much people giving effort to dissects this festering corpse and give us autopsy report without gore
Remember!
Being a pirate is always an option!
YARRRR SET SAIL MATEYS
in this case, piracy is the only ethical option
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ no
@louis06lmao Hell NO
@YeaMan no he didn't. You're a liar
3:39 i couldnt have come up with a more perfect description of why this show is profiting so well.
People should just pirate it so the show doesn’t actually make money
I, too, have been addicted to hate watching for at least 10 years, I can't give it up so easily😭
As someone who works on films and animation, I can tell you right now that usually 2 seasons are ordered when any animated show is made
Usually the next season is around 1/4 of the way done by the time the first season comes out
That's why so many shows are "renewed for season 2" whether they were good or bad: they were already being worked on
God i hope so
Weird that’s almost the exact opposite of what I would’ve thought. A show being cancelled on season two feels strange to me. I thought I had noticed a ton of shows being cancelled on either season one or season three with two being the outlier
Can you tell us why shows like Velma gets greenlit? I really want to know why obviously bad shows get the money/time?
If that was the case why did they take down the other Scooby Doo show that sounded like it was basically done?
It was nice learning something new. Thank you for sharing that information.
This is the oldest trick in the book of streaming media. Producers greenlight a batch of 30-40 episodes and then split them into two seasons but withhold the information of the second to the public part till the series airs so they can brag about how successful the show is. That's why it seems like no matter how bad a show is they always have at least two seasons.
but why? this doesn't answer anything. if nobody watches it then they burned capital on making more episodes. it's a private business and their job is to make profits, not to pretend bad shows are popular. it's not a government agency that can burn funds on pumping out propaganda.
@JewTube001 investors form a 1 season contract and rather than make another contract, they duplicate the amount ordered in order to save money and time making contract since it is the same amount of money offered at the beginning
1:47 I love how one of the good things was that the show is different from Star Wars and the games themselves
Speaking of HBO MAX shows, it kind of sucks that this is getting renewed but Doom Patrol is ending.
I’m in the animation industry and it’s pretty common nowadays for shows to be ordered two seasons at a time with the second season just not announced/released until the first comes out. So perhaps it isn’t that Velma’s so popular it’s getting a season 2. But more it wasn’t bad enough for the season 2 already being made to be cancelled.
Why do studios do that?
Is it true that a lot of shows are actually one season split into two for marketing?
@David Hong you need to keep your animators employed or they will look for a new job.
This should be pinned
@@davidhong1934 commitment no matter how stupid the product will be. It happened with sequel Star Wars and the toys they made, to this day you can run into one of those toys in your local target I believe.
@@davidhong1934 I'm assuming because they think anything will hit it BIG, so after the second season runs dry and the big big numbers don't come in, cancelled, same fate for each subsequent season.
It works the first few weeks as there's interest in the social media discussion around it, but it gets old quickly and people move on, and the clicks on the stories/videos stop. The hate watching only lives while the discussion does, and I just don't see it as sustainable.
Watching Charlie looking for excuse to watch velma is like watching drug addict saying "dont try it and let me use it in your place 😂"
How brave of Charlie, sacrificing himself for us all to stop hate watching under the pretense of enjoying it.
He watches them so we don’t have to
Wait
its hard to believe he aint jesus now
i dont hate the show.
@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 cool
He wants the clicks from watching it.
“Is it truly so popular from hate watching that they can justify another season for rage baiting” is one of the most interesting quotes I’ve heard in a long time
It's taking the exact slice that "news" media does. Rage gets clicks, it gets views, it gets shared, and they profit... At the demise if society.
Unfortunately that has people fighting each other over divisive topics who would most likely hang out and have a beer, or cook on the grill.
Were entering a new era
The fact that so many people have nothing they enjoy so they will spend their time on things they hate instead is so sad
It’s incredibly admirable for you to shoulder all that hate on you own for the purpose of helping us lead happier lives. Thank you so much Charlie
The most fun part of watching Charlie's videos is painting a picture in your head of all the witty and sometimes silly metaphors he throws at you, hilarious
Lol ... ikr👍 He said a hilarious one last week...
He said something smelled SO bad, it smells like 2 Garbage Trucks having sex in a Sulfur yard. 😅🤣🤣
All the while your braincells rot
@@igorz4582
Bro if you don't like him don't watch him😭
6:01 the transition between emotions from happy to sad Charlie must of finished watching Velma between those cuts
LMAO
I will stub my toe on every curb between North America and Asia before I click “Velma” on Netflix.
hate watching / listening to the news is how we get so much bad news instead of good news.
I'd say let's change it but that's not going to happen.
The way I look at hate watching, is that it’s the same as giving trolls attention. Them getting a interaction out of you is exactly what they wanted and just encourages them to do the exact same thing they’ve been doing. The more you give them attention, the more it shows they can get results from you: the target.
👆=🤓
not if u pirate the shows you know you'll hate but watch anyway
6:40 oh lord he is Jesus
3:25 wow, I don't think I've ever heard that one before.
Luckily I'm immune to hate watching. No amount of money would make me watch it.
I've been letting Charlie cover my awful shows for a long time now, and I didn't stop at Velma. This world needs to wake up and let Charlie do this for us.
What are we adults 😂 cmon now
yeah fucking forming an opinion of my own!
Yeah, and make him the next Mr Beast, real brilliant.
The cure for these shows is blissful ignorance. Just shut them off.
It would be great if in season 2 whenever they break the fourth wall and talk directly to camera they addressed Charlie personally by name.
That would actually be kinda cool
That one moment would be better than the entire show
Charlie falling on the sword for us, what a legend.
On a subscription model where the goal is to get subs, hate watching get people onto a platform where they can digest other content afterwards
Velma is what happens when Mindi takes a MySpace “What Scooby-Doo character are you” quiz too far
3:49 “It’s just like when you know my boy George got curious and it led to all kinds of adventures” - Charlie 😂
Hate watching and watching is the exact same thing.
You're just fooling yourself, nobody else.
how to solve a problem:
WE ARE THE PIRATES!
Boys: “Once upon a time…”
Men: “This is the story of…”
Legends: “With my bare bottom pointed up at the showerhead, I began to ponder…”
Im better than penguinz0 LMAO
Is this a joke or not?
LOL
How do so many bots exist
@@ultradeathboy I have no idea, I just ignore their existence and move on. They do make reading comments annoying as hell tho
The scariest part is that this could be the start of a new trend of bastardizing IPs we all know and love simply because studios know they’ll make rage money off us…strange times we live in
Start? No, this is but the peak of the trend you fear. Hollywood has been doing it for years, with everything from The Witcher to Halo to Star Wars to far too many to count. My fear is the peak will last so long it becomes the new norm, and shows like Velma will be competing to be the most unbearable piece of "entertainment" possible. It started with not caring about quality control, then dropped to actively (and openly) hating the IPs they work on and their fans. Now it has seemingly taken on the trend's final form with Velma, which is to actively hate all of humanity and do everything in their power to inflict as much pain and suffering on us as humanly possible.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 nah, it started with fans asking for IPs to return, only to hate on or ignore the very IPs that they want to return. Velma doesn't get made without 15 Scooby Doo reboots failing and the fans still asking for more when they couldn't support the 15 reboots they wanted.
@@majinnando6711 I've watched 15 Scooby Doo reboots and loved them all. I don't know anyone who was a fan of the original that didn't like at least the first 15 years of reboots/sequels/movies, so I am not sure where "hate or ignore" comes from, because Scooby Doo content has always been fire before this dumpster fire took "fire" literally and set fire to the franchise.
EDIT: Now that I am thinking about it, reviews I have seen even say things like "How could you screw up something so easy to get right?" about Scooby Doo because it has *always* been successful in whatever form it takes. The live action movies even had what, 3, 4? because they were doing well despite being considered "the worst" of the franchise pre-Velma.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 well hey, that's dope, from what I've seen though Scrappy Doo, What's New Scooby Doo, and a bunch of other reboots, spinoffs, etc. were booted from network for lack of viewers, or people not even knowing they existed, and then those same people asking for a new Scooby Doo when they didn't support or watch any of the content that came out the last 35 years chocked full of Scooby and the gang in their original form. My point basically is I'm seeing a lot of people who watch this and then ask why Scooby Doo isn't being made, when it has been, they just didn't care enough to support until they changed something about it to attract new viewers. Also, let's not lie, Velma compared to Scrappy Doo makes Velma look like a piece of art, I refuse to think anyone who actually watched Scrappy Doo puts it over Velma as a better show when that entire show was a dumpster fire.
@@majinnando6711 I cannot take seriously anyone who says Velma is better than literally anything, much less any other Scooby Doo IP out there.
While I personally prefer when the gang is together over Scrappy Doo, but my dad (60) loves Scrappy Doo and still watches it to this day. I cannot see a single person actually watching Velma years after it airs.
Also, you do not seem to understand how Scooby Doo operates if you think it keeps getting "cancelled." It was a seasonal show from the start, meaning each new season was it's own self-contained show with it's own name. It was only in the modern day that each individual show started having a few year runs for more modern, lengthy arcs. As far as I can tell, the show has never been dropped due to ratings. They just finish the arc they wanted to tell then start on the next one.
If they say any season is more than 10 episodes everyone is gonna drop it
lowtiergod bro, he is a prime example of hate watch and I miss his rage content
Man, so true, I heard this show was terrible and yet several of my friends literally watched it because they heard all the drama around it being so bad. It doesn’t matter if its crap, if people keep eating it, they’ll keep making it!
Well the thing with streaming shows is people watching it is completely irrelevant. New people paying the subscription to watch it is the problem. If ANYONE in their right mind who didn’t already have a subscription got one to watch this abomination id question their sanity if they’re just hate watching.
Let them. It's not harming you personally, is it?
@@dougfisher2060 it kinda is tho if other networks also start to go trough this cycle and then we get more shit shows
@@dougfisher2060 so fucking tired of this argument "it's not harming you/anyone". Yeah just let them give views to all the suits ruining beloved IPs
@@herdoman5169 If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. But that doesn't mean you can keep others from watching it, you're not their mother.
How do we ironically watch these shows without letting the suits know we watched it?
RAISE THE FLAGS MATEYS!
Got any recommended cites 🏴☠️🫡
The return of the Pirates Of The West!
@@dead_6931 soap2day
How about burningseries? We are such rebels
Don't for a second think they don't keep tabs on how downloaded shit is. Just don't watch stuff that you hate, there is so much good media around, espand there instead