Harry Kane & Declan Rice Vs Pundits | How Should Gerrard, Scholes & Lampard Have Played
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How should Gerrard, Lampard & Scholes have played together for England? Declan Rice & Harry Kane respond to the Pundits & former players! Rio & Joel and Ste are back with an episode of Euros 2024 Vibe With FIVE. Following England’s performances so far, the panel discuss numerous topics such who is the main man in this squad and who should it be? Also discussed are the some of the supreme young talent who are showing out this tournament as well as some of the old heads who refused to be outshone! Don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe and hit that notification bell so you never miss a minute of football coverage, exclusive interviews, and fiery debates this season!
0:00; - Intro
2:22; - Roberto Baggio & the number 10 role
6:50; - Have the English Pundits been too negative? Rio addresses Harry Kane & Declan Rice comments
12:20; - Rio says he won’t gloss over bad performances but he wants this team to do well
12:57; - This England team are held to are higher standard now
15:50; - The players should use all the conversations as fuel to win the trophy.
17:10; - The criticism is because the pundits believe the team are good enough to win
18:16; - Southgate’s Kalvin Phillips comments & man management skills
19:37; - Why was the reporter allowed to ask Kobbie Mainoo the reason he didn’t choose to represent Ghana?
20:54; Rio Disagree’s with Southgate’s Kalvin Phillips comments
23:10; - Why should Bellingham play deeper
24:06; - Bellingham & Foden’s Strengths
25:06; - Not playing to our players strengths & can Pickford play out from the back?
28:22; - Can Declan Rice play as a lone 6? Should he have a partner?
30:10; - When England tried to fit Scholes, Gerrard & Lampard
34:53; - What will Southgate do with England’s squad for the final group game?
37:03; - Why is Cole Palmer not getting more game time for England?
37:41; - What is Ralf Rangnick doing with the Austria squad?
38:35; - Special players of the tournaments so far?
41:26; - Special young players of the tournament so far?
42:32; - Who should come in and sign Spain’s Nico Williams?
42:50; - Ngolo Kante still bossing it for France
45:33; - van Nistelrooy to return to Man Utd?
46:49; - How Rio plans to take in more local German culture
48:46; - Outro
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0:00; - Intro
2:22; - Roberto Baggio & the number 10 role
6:50; - Have the English Pundits been too negative? Rio addresses Harry Kane & Declan Rice comments
12:20; - Rio says he won’t gloss over bad performances but he wants this team to do well
12:57; - This England team are held to are higher standard now
15:50; - The players should use all the conversations as fuel to win the trophy.
17:10; - The criticism is because the pundits believe the team are good enough to win
18:16; - Southgate’s Kalvin Phillips comments & man management skills
19:37; - Why was the reporter allowed to ask Kobbie Mainoo the reason he didn’t choose to represent Ghana?
20:54; Rio Disagree’s with Southgate’s Kalvin Phillips comments
23:10; - Why should Bellingham play deeper
24:06; - Bellingham & Foden’s Strengths
25:06; - Not playing to our players strengths & can Pickford play out from the back?
28:22; - Can Declan Rice play as a lone 6? Should he have a partner?
30:10; - When England tried to fit Scholes, Gerrard & Lampard
34:53; - What will Southgate do with England’s squad for the final group game?
37:03; - Why is Cole Palmer not getting more game time for England?
37:41; - What is Ralf Rangnick doing with the Austria squad?
38:35; - Special players of the tournaments so far?
41:26; - Special young players of the tournament so far?
42:32; - Who should come in and sign Spain’s Nico Williams?
42:50; - Ngolo Kante still bossing it for France
45:33; - van Nistelrooy to return to Man Utd?
46:49; - How Rio plans to take in more local German culture
48:46; - Outro
One of the greatest to play for the Azzuri. #thedivineponytail
This is what i think,
Kane can't press and is unfit and hasn't played a full 90 minutes for months, Foden is ineffective, Rice is overrun in midfield because Bellingham doesn't want to track back and Alexander Arnold is out of his depth, Southgate can get the blame for playing this squad but the players have to take the blame for being unable to execute whatever game plan he gave them because there aren't good enough to do it.
what needs to happen is this, change formation to 4-4-2, Foden needs to be dropped or played on the right instead of Saka, Kane needs to be a 45 minute player, Alexander Arnold needs to be out of midfield and on the subs bench as a right back.
On the right Walker and Foden play together for Man City, know each other, and can play well together, Saka also plays well on the right needs to alternate with Foden, because lets face it Saka is one of those players that play too many games anyway.
on the left Trippier and Gordon, play together for Newcastle, know each other, and can play well together.
Kane is the striker furthest forward and Bellingham just behind.
Starting 11 from left to right
Pickford
Trippier -Guehi - Stones - Walker
Gordon - Rice - Mainoo (or Gallagher)- Foden
Bellinghaham
Kane
2:22 Italy 94 reminded me of current England situation which have 2 great number 10. Arrigo Sacchi at that time just chose Baggio over another great number 10 of Italian football history Giuseppe Signori because Sacchi knew that Baggio was more hardworker and agressive while Signori was more like player who only showboating. And Sacchi decision for choosing Baggio was correct as Baggio took Italy into 1994 world cup final before he got knee injury in semifinal that play a role on his failed last Italy penalty kick against Brazil.
Speaking about that 2 Italian number 10 honestly Signori had better club season than Baggio at that time and in term of skills Signori was better than Baggio but Beppe lack that agrressiveness and not a hardworker player.
You lot and these lot failed as you didnt not play football and backed off like school boys !
Dont complain about media or anything .
Go play ! man ! Play !
😊😊😊😊😊😊
This podcast needs Ste, some people might not like his honesty but its needed. His points are valid even if he does shout it out a bit but it doesn't mean its not valid.
These 3 have a real good balance, Ste's pig headedness (if thats a word) is very 'Clarkson' which is very watchable. Even when hes clearly wrong like on Gerrard, its fun to see.
Oh it wouldnt work without Ste
Who's Ste?
honesty or mega bias?
Agreed
I don’t always agree with Ste. But DAMN he made some outstanding points about Gareth and man management. You could see Joel initially wanted to intervene and defend Gareth, but when Ste came with the receipts the conversation was done and Joel and knew it
Watched Ste's take on the imbalance in the squad before England picked a ball in the Euros. It was exact to the tee.
When he’s not bias about Utd and saying daft things about Gerrard. Sometimes he makes decent points
@@SteveDavid-pw4lhWhen you look at it properly, he's right about Gerrard..
I was pulling my hair out before the tournament thinking how can no one see that England's attack has no runners,and hence no balance? No "pundit" brought it up. Only Howson did. It's basic common sense.
And playing Trent in midfield with no runners should be a sackable offence in itself.
Southgate has to pick a system. He has to drop Foden,and trust Gordon(Should have brought Rashford).
You can only play two of Foden, Bellingham and saka together,if your striker is Kane.
Also, playing Bellingham deep to accommodate Foden won't work either, because the defence isn't good enough and will concede a lot more.
Bellingham learnt his trade as an 8 he can defend an attack so you could play them both. We could drop Foden and play Bellingham as the 10, wide Right Saka or Palmer, play Gordan or Eze on the left. For a proper ball playing midfielder play Mainoo or Wharton. They are better receiving* with pressure from behind .alongside Rice…
Be brave if cane drops Bellingham or Foden get beyond. Runners Saka, Gordon, Eze .
Howson called this time ago
My man spot on .... have been saying this for days , England don't know how to attack front 4 should be runners and opening and stretching space for midfielders to pass and shoot and participate
Disagree. Against the three other teams in our group we didn't need two holding midfielders. Also bringing rashford is a horrible shout. I definitely agree about Saka, Foden and Bellingham. Not playing Gorden so far is also a ludacris decision.
😊@@robbiewizz658
The difference between the 2018 and 2021 tournaments and earlier ones were they got Sweden, Ukraine, and Denmark in the QF and SF (at Wembley) and not prime Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, and Germany. So I don’t buy this narrative that Southgate is a football messiah and deserves a job for life.
Totally Agree
2018 +2021 very favourable draws.
What happened in 2022 France? ?
Nothing to do with GS managerial skills
100% how people can't understand that is crazy
So England haven’t come short to those kind of teams before? You still gotta win. Their games against Italy, Germany, France in recent years have been pretty close.
Who on earth has said southgate is a football messiah who deserves the job for life?? Why make such an asinine statement? Please list these people as a public service
@@jgooner894 pre 2016 there were only 16 teams in the competition. Half those teams wouldn't have been in the competition.
When Ste said" it's a pure hypothrtical they're not winning shit" LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Hypothritical 🤣🤣🤣
Ste is a complete moron
The teams Rio's generation lost to were far better than the teams the current England team have come up against.
They really weren't
@@rajimussmoke something different mate, ur lost
The England team who lost to Romania in 2000? They almost didn't qualify for the 2002 World Cup if Sven didn't come in and save the campaign at the last minute. Didn't even Qualify for Euro 2008. All in Rio's era. Short memories mate. Lets relax a little. LOL
@@adrians-ro8kk They wouldn't have to lost to Iceland. It's that simple. Romania used to be a proper dark horse team especially in the 90s and early 00s.
Bang on
People FORGET! Sven saved the 2002 World Cup Qualification campaign. We were out of it before he came in. Lets put some respect on his name.
In all fairness though, Rio Ferdinand is probably the most positive pundit out there when it comes to England compared to everyone else.
Damn Rio. You were spitting brother 🔥🔥
No wasn't lol 😂
Baggio sat nearly every keeper on his ass b4 he finished total class
The players play to the standards of the coach. Qualifying top of the group is the bare minimum for such a talented lot. Rio, why is no one criticising Southgate? You know, like they do Erik ten Hag every single week?
Yeah it's southgates fault he's clueless tactically,I understand why the pundits are getting at the players cos the position there in they should be able to play more effectively whatever the position,I'd see the point in him playing players out of position through injuries,he's made a mess of his 26 man squad with zero balance on left hand side and no proper left back,surely the f.a must have been anticipating this they should have stepped in,if a fan with no coaching experience can see it why can't a seasoned player and coach not it's been farcical since the 26 were revealed
As a West Ham fan this is all just Dave ja vu. A team getting half decent results playing terrible negative football (with a squad that’s clearly capable of better) yet fans aren’t allowed to complain because they have the most successful manager they’ve ever had. This is why West Ham fans got fed up not only with Moyes but also with the media who would refuse to criticise him despite the obvious problems. Southgate = Moyes. Tell me I’m wrong.
I'm not a West Ham fan & I compared Southgate to Moyes talking to my dad the other day & said Moyes would do better because at least he is far more tactically savvy. You are not wrong lol
At least moyes won a trophy
Knew i had to come to Rio’s channel for an honest talk about England’s form. Ste making great points as usual.
Río, order a nice Krakauer sausage in Düsseldorf from the the grill, inside a bread roll. You’ll love it.
Sounds great!
100% Gallagher starts. He's Gareths number 1 sub and he'll be in. Then first sub will be Bowen for Saka
Mainoo > Gallagher
Gallagher breaks up play better nothing else. He’s gareths new Phillips
@@ClihtYeastwood I agree with you but I'm not saying what I want, I'm saying what I think will happen
I agree with ste. Ivory Coast won a Afcon last year sacking their manager half way thru the tournament - get him gone
One is constructive criticism and one it just criticism. How criticism is received is very important. What's the point in criticising unless you want things to improve.
for me we need to play 3-5-2 Walker, Stones, Guehi - Saka, Gordon on the wings, rice 6, Bellingham 8 Foden 10 - Kane and Wadkins in front of him doing the running. Can always bring on or start tripps for more challenging opposing wingers if needed
1 of the many ideas that would be much better than Trent in midfield. You could even have him on the right wing back as you suggest and it would make more sense.
@@brandonbarnes783 only thing is this should have been set in stone months ago lol
Terrible team.
Sorry fellas its not coming home this year same old england trying to fit to many good players and playing them out of position.
I'm not even english but I get so frustrated with the england situation because with such a top talented squad , kalvin phillips shouln't even be a whisper let alone a name mentioned around the england camp, if he was so good why did he fail at city A , B southgate is a fraud and england will forver be hindered by mates rates and close mindedness, if they actually had balls they'd fire southgate , he has the best possible scenario on his hands
“Why am I looking at Austria with envy” - something you never thought you’d hear 😂
If they win it everyone will go way over the top. They will be the greatest of all time. None of them are going to complain that it’s too much then….
My thoughts exactly
Why don’t they complain when the hype and camera is on them
Bellingham played more than enough games at Birmingham and Dortmund in central midfield to play there for England. Rice, Bellingham, Foden.
Rio COOOOOOOOOKED 🔥 maybe they can't present their raw emotions as much on live broadcast, but would love to see the pundits present more of these opinions and suggestions on TV!
The difference between the way England (team and media) and Portugal (team and media) dealt with the first game and tactical issues speaks volumes.
Ive been seeing both, in Portugal Martinez changed system straight away, made corrections and all the big issues of game 1 were fixed by game 2. Meanwhile in England all you "can" say is - hopefully they have a good game and get inspired. But the tactical issues are still there - baffling
RIce should play the 6 (Like Palinha did last game), Jude should play the 8 ( like Vitinha last game) , Foden should play the 10 (like Bruno F. last game)
“Madonna had a crush on him” times moved on rio 😆 she’s brutal on the eyes now, respectfully
I agree🤣🤣🤣Madonna having a crush on you now is something to be ashamed of.
Oh no! I’d lock meself up in me panic room! 😂😅😂
Rio’s mad frames press more than England did.
Excellent discussion. Really enjoyed this one.
Bravo gentlemen!!!! Wicked episode as per!!!!!!!! Love your work keep it up. Come on England!!
Thank you
Roberto Baggio, my first ever football idol. 😃
Great podcast guys we love it!!!
Glad to hear it!
Great show guys ! Spoke a lot of sense, even Joel. lol
I come for the content but I stay for Ste. What a mad head and he’s also right about Southgate
Really enjoyed this episode 👌
"Whats he there for"
"I dont know"
Great delivery from Joel😂
That last segMent about languages was hilarious
I used to have that Italian shirt. What an era for Italian football
This Podcast Talks Real Issues Within The Dressing - Room
Fitness = Power-Haus ! . Like the vibe man
Golden Generationers let us down over and over again in terms of how they played for England. These younger lads have gotten farther more often than they ever did and deserve the support of all.
Rio Ferdinand's manageable skill insights into players mindset is ..
.. 'On The Ball' ⚽️
Omg Ste talks some gibberish, Rio is spot on in terms of how a message is delivered, without saying away from giving criticism.
Best pod ive seen this euros, good game lads
19:53 Raise your hand 😂😂
The best formation for England right now is 4-3-3, when you attacking and then go 4-4-2 when you are defending
Top episode lads. Everything Howson and Rio said about Southgate was 100% spot on
RIO FOR ENGLAND MANAGER 2025! Give him ten years and he would smash the role! Real winning pedigree and mentality!
this pod was reaalllly goood :)) hope for more euro talks .. also as A slovak .... whats your view on our team ... lobotka ...pekarik kucka škriniar dubravka ... idont even know my own team thats how much i care about our national football :D ... for me it was always just man u ... and when we play for something then bring it on .... like when we almost got to 2010 quaterfinals .... or last Euro was also some nice moments
Rooney has a big contractor/foreman look about him
Great ideas from Rio
Elite punditry from Rio, Love it!
Love this podcast ❤
Thank you.
Totally agree with Ste, he’s fully aware with the situation. It’s all on Southgate 🤷♂️
The fact that you're 'holding the team to a higher standard because of what they've done' is nonsense, they've won nothing. The standard is not winning. We need some humility as a country to say that until we win something on the international stage, this England team shouldn't be judged like the top club teams the players represent.
Ste messed up here, that's not how the question was asked to Mainoo, it was asked respectfully, anybody in doubt should watch that interview. I feel bad for Rio as he reacted aggressively, more due to Ste misquoting the guy more anything. I would have been as angry as Rio, if what Ste said was an accurate quote. Players get asked all the time are they happy with their choice, like Declan Rice England/Ireland, as long as it's done in a respectful manner it's ok.
Also this question in the thumbnail wasn't asked:
"Why was the reporter allowed to ask Kobbie Mainoo the reason he didn’t choose to represent Ghana?"
he was not asked for reasons why he didn't choose to represent Ghana.
Ste’s shirt is an all time great!! 😮💨👏🏾
Class these 3
Schnitzel sausage, cracked me up
Elephant in the room - Jude Bellingham had a better season playing no.10 at Real Madrid than Phil foden did at city playing No.10.
Also Bellingham is an overall better player than Foden. So maybe not think about building the team around Foden because of PL bias? 🤔
Yo this is mad, their agents called you after that analysis?
None of them have any idea what Rio is saying.
If you criticise with blasphemed vocabulary it will be taken in a completely different way to if it was more constructive or less ‘aggressive’.
The whole thing is taken out of context anyway simply because a journalist wants to write headlines. The journalists are a massive reason why England haven’t won anything since ‘66. They don’t go out on the pitch, but they are the difference to the mental edge that England have lacked with tournament winning potential squads.
0:17 absolute real talk
47:18 Name a German sausage… 😂 Rio’s laugh is evil🤦🏻♂️😆
Rooney looks exactly the same as he was in that Nike ad about 20 yrs ago
Rio's golden generation would have gone just as far, if not further, playing against the teams that Southgate's England has played in these tournaments.
Ste always keeping it honest
I love the Southgate roast.🤣
What brand are Rio’s shorts?
Hi Simon, Good video, as mentioned before I think you was real unlucky with the dude you had hassle with a while ago, you conducted yourself well, presonally I only associate with people who can keep top drinking with me lol - if not your not in the club lol - enjoy Patrick
The bottom line was when Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard were in the squad, only 2 of them could play per game, but Erikson did not have the guts to leave one out per game fearing a media onslaught that could cost him his job. The same happened in bringing Rooney into the team so young because the media demanded for no other reason than to get Heskey out of the team. There was no reason to rush Rooney into the team and so dismantle a successful, feared and very strong team that was beating Germany 5-1 on their own turf, but the media who see football with a computer game mentality demanded it, thinking their demands motivated by their racist attitude towards Heskey would not effect the team only to see it do exactly that. They threw negativity after negativity at Heskey, ignoring any of the positives, to brainwash the public into turning against him so the manager is pressured into throwing him out of the England team. In the end, England with Heskey out of the team failed to make the Euros and only nearly made it to the competition because injuries meant there was no one to bring into the tea, but Heskey resulting in England beating teams they could not beat before his return. The irony is, it came down to the last game, but Heskey was injured for that game and again England failed without him and so did not make the Euros. Just because you have 3 of the greatest goal keepers in the world, it does noy mean you have to play them all in the same game. That is just common sense and there was no need to play Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes, 3 central midfielders, in the same game of a 4-4-2 system, but the media demanded the manager do it and make the impossible work. Gerrard and Scholes was producing great results, so why change it, until Scholes and Lampard have proved that provides better results. Peace and love
I was just thinking that myself - Rooney looks just like my Irish Stepdad!❤
Rio is 💯 explaining what’s on our minds right now. The last two performances haven’t convinced us that we can win this tournament. Can’t believe Harry Kane is more concerned about punditry comments than what’s happening in the pitch
Nah its OTT from media ans pundits. Wtf has rio ever done in an england shrit? I'll wait
@@rajimusI agree. No one has the right to criticise except the 1966 England squad. But the pundits/ex players are only saying what’s true.
Ste cracks me up when talking about England....brutal but states facts😅
Not an England fan but as a football fan it has been frustrating to see that Southgate cannot get the best out of this team. This group of players is supposed to be England's best chance to finally win a major trophy be it the Euros or the WC. Standards are different because of the players England currently has.
Drop Declan sideways and put Mainoo-Jude-Foden midfield. Gordon-Kane-Palmer frontline.
35:38 Ste is such a wind up 😂😂
I think Ste should get to do Southgates performance review at the end of the tournament 😂
Carrick was a bit after svens time surely? He was still at west ham in 2004. I don't even think Sven did that badly. I was a kid but I used to get excited watching that England team. We went out on close margins to quality teams.
Why the sunglasses Rio, big night
Southgate would’ve been the perfect assistant manager or back room staff for England in terms of bringing the squad together, but he’s not a leader or tactician and it’s beginning to look like he doesn’t know what he’s doing which many of us have been saying for awhile now. It’s ugly to watch
In Sven's time the ideal formation would've been a 3-4-1-2
Cole and Beckham on the wings, Scholes Gerrard Lampard in the middle with Rooney and Owen up front
In the current team, it'd be a narrow 4-2-3-1
Pickford
Trent Stones Guehi Shaw
Mainoo Rice
Palmer Bellingham Foden
Watkins
you're welcome
I believe Southgate may have meant not having a natural DM like Kalvin Philips. If he had Wharton maybe earlier in the season he may have seen him as a DM.
Southgate ideal team would be natural DM at 6 Declan rice as 6/8 Jude Bellingham as 10
When Southgate made those comments I think some people may have thought he hasn't got the same quality as Kalvin Philips.
I think Southgate was reluctant to Play Rice and Jude as no 8 because he believes Defensively it may not be as strong... especially when you put Foden as 10
Jude Bellingham playing as no 10 and scoring so many goals for Real Madrid was a dream for Southgate. All Southgate needed to do was play Jude further forward.. ( Remember Jude was playing as 8 for England) Southgate knows Jude is good at pressing and would run all over the pitch..
I believe he was playing Jude as an 8
Playing Trent was Southgate coming away from playing a more defensive midfielder. He felt Trent maybe able to adapt to midfield quicker... Especially on the defensive side of the game.
Playing Trent midfield should have been done straight after the world cup. Given Trent a real opportunity to establish himself in that role
Now Southgate is in a position where if he gets it wrong England could be at risk of going out the next round.
100%. First sensible comment made on this.
Sven would never drop Beckham to accommodate a diamond or a 3 . He made him Captain , same with Kane he won't get dropped
Mad gibberish made me LOL 😂
Supper cool to see Pepe getting his flowers - one of the Goats to me!
This is the team Rio played in in the 2006 wc quarter final which England might have won were it not for rooneys sending off. He has completely forgotten that Sven actually played a holding player in Hargreaves’s that day with Joe Cole on the left which given the fashion for inverted wingers these days was not even really that out of position all thing’s concerned and we never had a natural left footer to play there anyway. Owen was injured, scholes had retired:
Robinson
Neville
Rio
Terry
A Cole
Hargreaves
Beckham
J Cole
Gerrard
Lampard
Rooney up top on his own which again was not in fashion then but people very rarely play 2 up top these days.
🤔
So Sven did actually pick the right team by the end of his reign just still couldn’t get over the line anyway.
In the next five years a lot of these players will be sitting podcast saying the same thing Rio is saying about this current manager. Professionalism is what stop us from hearing what they all think at the the moment🤞🏼
RIO RIO RIO
Listen up..
You got your badges, put your name in the hat for the England job and make us great yo.
Something changed with these boys after the interviews with Martinez and Mourinho 🤔
To be honest,
I don't know if Gareth Southgate watched Euro 2004 or if he is trying to copy Otto Rehhagel or even understand why Otto did what he did.
Instead of just copying blindly.
If you pray for rain, you gotta deal with the mud too. Simple as !
Oi Rio where those glasses from?
It's to much of a head scratcher it's impossible to put Gerrard ,Scholes and rampart into the same team?. Maybe the only way to play all 3 is to keep Beckham out of the team?.
HOLD ON STE! We also need to criticize the players just as much as Southgate. We cream ourselves about how "INTELLIGENT" these guys are but also claim they need Southgate to tell them what to do on a pitch? Really?
Has Rio been on it a bit before this interview
DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY HATES ON HOWSON. ONLY MAN SPEAKING FACTS REGARDING UNITED AND ANY FOOTBALL TALKS.
Joel acting like he watched lazio under sven and knew how they played behave lad
Rio you should check the legendary music scene and recording studios in Berlin or Lucas poldpskis kebab empire
Gallagher in for Trent, ffs Southgate's plan is to 1-0 us all the way to the final
Think I can go back through my comments on every video from “pundits” and “youtubers” and find so many arguing against how a “foden trent bellingham rice saka kane” front 6 won’t work.
but hey “play your best players 🤓” parroted everyone without being able to understand profiles.