Good review, very informative. On centrefire - new firearm shooters are often surprised that the like-for-like cost is actually very similar to air guns (ammunition apart of course). I did 1000 yard target rifle about 20 years ago and bought an accurate and perfectly serviceable second-hand rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO (great for mil surplus ammo) for three hundred quid. The longer you have been a shooter (50+ years for me), the more likely you are to appreciate a quality gun. None of us live forever so if you can afford a nice one just buy and enjoy. One quote I frequently hear is that guns are like motorcycles - the correct number to own is the number you have plus one...
@@TheRealWindlePoons thank you buddy 🙂 yes there's always room for one more !!!! I'll do a chat about my Springer's, rim fire's and centre fire's as well, people seem to have quite enjoyed this video and it's a change from hunting 👍
PCP air rifles are pretty accurate due to zero recoil. But you get what you pay for most of the time. Cheap air rifles are not as durable if you’re shooting 500-1000 pellets a week they’ll break fairly quickly. Also the action on a cheap rifle will not be very slick when cocking and plastic magazines will fail overtime. More expensive guns will be more durable have nice slick action and nice trigger setups out of the box. Some guns in my experience like the vixen and weihruach will shoot really well out of the box. Some other manufacturers from Czech and Sweden YMMV either being really nicely made but not accurate or lots of tuning and not really nice to shoot. Then there’s other high end manufacturers with electronics that can play up or magazines with fragile springs and pins that break. And finally there’s a manufacturer with really accurate, well made guns that will charge you extra for shooting left handed. As for picatinny rails avoid like the plague they introduce inaccuracy because unless you get proper picatinny mounts (good luck with that) what you’re actually getting is weaver mounts described as weaver/picatinny which are smaller which isn’t a snug fit. Then there’s the terrible idea of buying a dovetail to picatinny adapter so you’re adding another layer of inaccuracy to your setup and those adapters are never straight when you’ve clamped them on and nipped up all the grub screws which will fall out overtime and don’t think about reaching for the loc-tight you’ll regret it 😂
@@sid35gb absolutely spot on with everything you said there mate 💪💪 I'm more of a firearms guy than airguns ( although airguns seems to be used more at the minute ) I like the ease of a picatinny or weaver mount as I swap scopes a lot because of the CZcams channel and having to record content etc. And most of my firearms have picatinny as well, and yep the rail converters are rubbish !!!
Still got my 30 year old BSA Super 10, the rabbits i have had with that!! and, its still doing the business!!, Got a couple of Daystate's, no better than the S10. Treated myself to a Steyr SA Hunting 5, what an air rifle but, no better than the Super 10 & the trigger is not half as good as the BSA.
I thought your views were honest. I have a HW100 for outside fitted with a HIKMICRO ALPEX for night time. I have a big garden and use a cheap Snowpeak m16 which is accurate enough for any pest control. I am thinking about the Vixen but you make a fair point about the height of the site, all the hold over nonsense on air rifles peeves me right off.
I've never heard a review for any airgun where that bit of information is mentioned mate, in my opinion it's very important to know, as it changes the whole shooting experience. It's not a deal breaker but it means that you need a range finder and need to know the hold overs very well.
As all air guns in the uk are limited to sub 12 there’s nothing a pcp can do that my 40 yr old webley Vulcan break barrel can’t do and I’ll add the pellets (hades ect) don’t expand as they should at sub 12
@@firstknight6057 correct 👍 I used to buy Into the pellet debate and try fancy ones that promised the earth etc, I'm beyond all that now and it's definitely a case of getting what the barrel likes and accuracy over power 👌
Hello My friend, Thank you for your time and for doing your reviews. I've always liked the Walthur RM8. To me, I think it's a great looking air rifle. I have a soft spot for the cocking lever, as it seems very notchy, and reminds me of the Theoben Rapids. I loved the look of those when they first came out. For a pcp air rifle to hit a five pence at fifty yards is amazing. For four hundred and fifty pounds! It looks like a great air rifle for the money, peanuts, I think it's a great buy. Dave Ratz, is on Utube. He reviewed a Walthur RM 8. He also said, be careful when your cocking the rifle, as the pellet probe catches and bends the foils on the insides of the magazine hay/ wire.
@@ianwoods1384 no worries bud, I'm glad you got something out of the video 👍 the cocking bolt feels a lot better without the magazine, I'll definitely just use a single shot loader in the future. It's an ageing design now but if they made a MK2 with a side lever then it'd be one of the best cheaper end pcp's out there still. I didn't mind the bolt myself until I got the other 2 rifles but it definitely gets shown up now in the cocking cycle.
I feel your pain with the hold over/under. I have the same scope mounted on a XM1 Bullpup. 75mm between scope centre and barrell centre can make for interesting rat shooting over widely varying distances. Great comparison between your gear and another big thumbs up for Redbeck. Great store and staff.
My main 3 rifles are AA pro sport, brocock compatto, FX M3, had loads over the years and the worst PCP rifle was a Hatsan Gladius, my opinion is always get the best you can afford as no one has yet proved to me the myth that cheaper air rifles can match the high end PCP's straight out of the box there maybe an argument for some mid range rifles but I've not seen anything under a grand match a FX M3 without having loads of work done on them.
I'd agree with you really mate, you definitely get what you pay for. I think cheaper ones are very hit and miss regarding what you get, 2 examples of the same rifle can be completely different due to quality control and manufacturing. I've done okay with my vectis but I had to spend a little time and money on it out of the box. The vixen feels like it'll last decades though 👍
Thanks for the run down and review. I'm yet to invest in a PCP and keep umming and ah-ing (no rush as i font have teh dosh anyway). Its good to see & hear some more helpful and practical real world and pest control feedback. The Vixen has been one of those on my (window) shopping list. Some of these Turkish makers are turning out some great gins for the money though!
@@scruff_uk no worries pal I'm glad you got something from the video, and possibly some stuff other people might not have said 👌 I've had all these a while now and know them well enough to talk honestly about them. Hand on heart id recommend that vectis if funds are tight, you can add the barrel modification on and I actually put a regulator in mine ( I forgot to say on the video) it didn't improve the accuracy but has improved the shot count. The vixen is unbelievable now the hold overs are a thing of the past 😂 Don't discount a quality springer either, my 97k is amazing, have a look at my video from a couple of months ago 👌👌
@@foggy342Cheers. Aye, might not be my cup of tea the Hatsan tbh, the Reximex Myth maybe a bit more so. And a step up I like the look of the Walther Reign. I get you on the springer, my HW95 has served me flawlessly for nearly two decades to be honest, and still a tack driver. I finally upgraded my scope and that itself has brought a refreshing upgrade to the old work horse. Really appreciate the reply, and all your content. Cheers from Wakey way.
Brilliant review ot your rifles, i use redbeck quite a lot myself, the lads and steph are great to deal with ,always friendly and dont rip you off with trade ins .Ive got a vixen myself but my magazines that i got with the gun have the last shot lock out built into them , ive shot mine out to 100m and it was great ,not pellet on pellet but grouped probably a 50p size, if you get chance call in to yorkshire shooting centre (Mirfield) they've got a good 50m airgun range and its £7 all day👍
Cheers for the comment Scott 🙂 yeah redbeck are spot on mate, very helpful, don't try to rob you, they'll price match for you too 👌 I wish these mags had a hold open built in, I'd happily give up a pellet for it 😂 I actually took my son and his mate over to Doncaster indoor range today and it's spot on bud, first time I've been and I wash impressed with it. Up to 45 yards in an old warehouse, 3 hours and £15 for a lane 👌👌
Interesting look at your stable of pcp's. Never looked at a Vectis properly before and love the look of the underlever action, like you I grew up on Westerns and always wanted to be a cowboy, lol. May have to look at adding one of these to the collection as a new ratting rifle.
@@foggy342 trigger pulled (excuse the pun) on a purchase, found one in .177 locally so couldn't resist 😊 think I'll be coming to you for tips on the mods though as it does have a bark in its standard guise
@@the_occasional_carper brilliant mate, let me know how you get with it !! If you're local to me then I certainly don't mind helping you do the barrel modification 👍👍
@@foggy342 many thanks for the offer unfortunately I'm probably a bit far away for assistance. I've been watching a few videos on getting the moderator sorted. Will certainly let you know how I get on with it 👍🏻
Vixen- negatives: plastic stock is a complete hinderance and only there for cosmetics, this is a big problems for adding gear to gun. Seems to have poi shift unless u sort plastic handguard or add piccatiny rail under. No sling points I think it should of had a bottle around 350cc instead of 250. A better butt stock- its good but its a weird cheek to butstock feel. The hand grip is average which is a plus but for 1300 i think it needed to fatter and comfier to carry around. Ability to adjust power/efficiency is not easy (but can be a positive as theres less o rings etc. Pros- everything else… after u sort plastic rail (even though you shouldnt have to) its a absolute bargin, high end feel, amazing accuracy. Well built from 1 bit of ally. Looks the part. Vercict- if you were to replace plastic rail for ally and spend sometime upgrading bottle from 250 to 350-480 with a new butt stock i dont think youd ever really have to get another air rifle. Atg vixen .22 long
How do, one yorkshire lad to another, luv the road tha talks, lol, needless to say ya got another sub , liking the honest reviews, down to earth and honest, Cheers me olde 👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@stephenbudd-kt8pt thanks Stephen 👍 they actually sent it to me to test out and review, it came from china and it took about 3 weeks as it got delayed in customs.
Now then I’m back, do you have a compressor for your pcp’s as I’m thinking of getting one, what’s your thoughts on the wulf compressor? For the money they seem to be ok but I thought I’d ask you first. I’ve also been looking at the bsa model and the umerex but they are a tad more coin.
@@PiperX1X hi Pal, well regards compressor's Jonathan my day job gives me access to some of the best breathing apparatus compressors that money can buy. So I just take my cylinder and fill it up at work, but I'd just just take it to a shop to fill it otherwise. If I were to buy a compressor for home then I'd definitely buy from all reputable UK dealer and ideally some where close enough that you can take it back in person, as postage would cost a lot if you had to send it. And on that note I'd go for the one with the best warranty bud, that's my thoughts and I hope it helps 🙂
@@foggy342 I’ve gone for the wulf compressor buddy after all, two year warranty on it and after doing some more digging about them they seem to be spot on and not only that but I’ve bought another pcp! That’s it now not buying anything else.
@@foggy342 I haven’t gone mad on a pcp as my hw100 in 177 is magic but wanted something in 22 so gone for a reximex Myth from range and country for £379 and £100 less than anywhere else then topped it off with a Hawke airmax 4-12x40 which is a big enough scope for such a small rifle and barn work. Should be here either tomorrow or Friday morning, only £20 delivery, can’t fall off at that really.
Iv had 8 pcp and I'll sold all of them I've had my agt vixen short for over 2 years . And I still love it I put a Dempsey carbon shroud on it and it's whisper quite now .
@@leestraughan1979 I've heard a lot of people say that a shroud makes all the difference Lee, it's probably a similar price to putting a moderator adapter etc on it as well 👍
@@jp8351 I think it's 3 years mate, I'd have to check with the shop. But yes the plastic is strong enough, I actually drilled and tapped it and it's holding out fine so far 🙂
I really like it but it's lack of a hash marked reticle is a bad move, battery life is bad and they are AA type (get rechargeable ones from eBay and then it's no problem at all), it doesn't record sound which isn't a problem unless you have a CZcams channel really. But other than that it's really good 👍
The plug is loose, I used some 6mm round and sanded it down to fit. I didn't think 3d printing would be strong enough as it needs a partial lip on the top but it needs to be very thin. It works very well though, you could sell them on eBay I'd say mate 👌
@foggy342 thanks m8 for the tip ,I've got some brass and aluminium ,even a bit of delron ,when I get a moment I will have a go will stick it on the group photos
@@connor2dap884 yeah I can understand that mate, as I said I do all my pest control from a tripod, so it's fine for me, and my lad loves it. It's definitely not perfect but it's staying in the collection 💪
@@foggy342 fair enough mate. you should do a video of all your springers as well that would be great to see maybe do a series pcps springers than firearms . I shoot a mixture as well just recently took my browning bl grade 2 on the rats 👍
Good review, very informative.
On centrefire - new firearm shooters are often surprised that the like-for-like cost is actually very similar to air guns (ammunition apart of course). I did 1000 yard target rifle about 20 years ago and bought an accurate and perfectly serviceable second-hand rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO (great for mil surplus ammo) for three hundred quid.
The longer you have been a shooter (50+ years for me), the more likely you are to appreciate a quality gun. None of us live forever so if you can afford a nice one just buy and enjoy.
One quote I frequently hear is that guns are like motorcycles - the correct number to own is the number you have plus one...
@@TheRealWindlePoons thank you buddy 🙂 yes there's always room for one more !!!! I'll do a chat about my Springer's, rim fire's and centre fire's as well, people seem to have quite enjoyed this video and it's a change from hunting 👍
In sub12, all you need is a solid springer and the determination to master it.
Absolutely true, check out some of my springer ratting videos 👍
PCP air rifles are pretty accurate due to zero recoil. But you get what you pay for most of the time.
Cheap air rifles are not as durable if you’re shooting 500-1000 pellets a week they’ll break fairly quickly.
Also the action on a cheap rifle will not be very slick when cocking and plastic magazines will fail overtime.
More expensive guns will be more durable have nice slick action and nice trigger setups out of the box.
Some guns in my experience like the vixen and weihruach will shoot really well out of the box.
Some other manufacturers from Czech and Sweden YMMV either being really nicely made but not accurate or lots of tuning and not really nice to shoot.
Then there’s other high end manufacturers with electronics that can play up or magazines with fragile springs and pins that break.
And finally there’s a manufacturer with really accurate, well made guns that will charge you extra for shooting left handed.
As for picatinny rails avoid like the plague they introduce inaccuracy because unless you get proper picatinny mounts (good luck with that) what you’re actually getting is weaver mounts described as weaver/picatinny which are smaller which isn’t a snug fit. Then there’s the terrible idea of buying a dovetail to picatinny adapter so you’re adding another layer of inaccuracy to your setup and those adapters are never straight when you’ve clamped them on and nipped up all the grub screws which will fall out overtime and don’t think about reaching for the loc-tight you’ll regret it 😂
@@sid35gb absolutely spot on with everything you said there mate 💪💪 I'm more of a firearms guy than airguns ( although airguns seems to be used more at the minute )
I like the ease of a picatinny or weaver mount as I swap scopes a lot because of the CZcams channel and having to record content etc.
And most of my firearms have picatinny as well, and yep the rail converters are rubbish !!!
Still got my 30 year old BSA Super 10, the rabbits i have had with that!! and, its still doing the business!!, Got a couple of Daystate's, no better than the S10. Treated myself to a Steyr SA Hunting 5, what an air rifle but, no better than the Super 10 & the trigger is not half as good as the BSA.
I think that technology has just refined things and only marginally improved accuracy, like you say mate an old PCP is still as good at the job today.
Hey up fella. Superb video and chat while I enjoy a pipe and a coffee, thoroughly enjoyed it. Have a great weekend.
Thanks Jonathan 👍👍 same to you pal 🙂
I thought your views were honest.
I have a HW100 for outside fitted with a HIKMICRO ALPEX for night time. I have a big garden and use a cheap Snowpeak m16 which is accurate enough for any pest control.
I am thinking about the Vixen but you make a fair point about the height of the site, all the hold over nonsense on air rifles peeves me right off.
I've never heard a review for any airgun where that bit of information is mentioned mate, in my opinion it's very important to know, as it changes the whole shooting experience.
It's not a deal breaker but it means that you need a range finder and need to know the hold overs very well.
the HW 100 just does the job perfectly
As all air guns in the uk are limited to sub 12 there’s nothing a pcp can do that my 40 yr old webley Vulcan break barrel can’t do and I’ll add the pellets (hades ect) don’t expand as they should at sub 12
@@firstknight6057 correct 👍 I used to buy Into the pellet debate and try fancy ones that promised the earth etc, I'm beyond all that now and it's definitely a case of getting what the barrel likes and accuracy over power 👌
Hello My friend,
Thank you for your time and for doing your reviews. I've always liked the Walthur RM8.
To me, I think it's a great looking air rifle. I have a soft spot for the cocking lever, as it seems very notchy, and reminds me of the Theoben Rapids. I loved the look of those when they first came out.
For a pcp air rifle to hit a five pence at fifty yards is amazing.
For four hundred and fifty pounds!
It looks like a great air rifle for the money, peanuts, I think it's a great buy.
Dave Ratz, is on Utube. He reviewed a Walthur RM 8. He also said, be careful when your cocking the rifle, as the pellet probe catches and bends the foils on the insides of the magazine hay/ wire.
@@ianwoods1384 no worries bud, I'm glad you got something out of the video 👍 the cocking bolt feels a lot better without the magazine, I'll definitely just use a single shot loader in the future. It's an ageing design now but if they made a MK2 with a side lever then it'd be one of the best cheaper end pcp's out there still. I didn't mind the bolt myself until I got the other 2 rifles but it definitely gets shown up now in the cocking cycle.
I feel your pain with the hold over/under. I have the same scope mounted on a XM1 Bullpup. 75mm between scope centre and barrell centre can make for interesting rat shooting over widely varying distances. Great comparison between your gear and another big thumbs up for Redbeck. Great store and staff.
@@karlfell3768 it's hard work for sure 😂 thanks for the comment buddy 👍
My main 3 rifles are AA pro sport, brocock compatto, FX M3, had loads over the years and the worst PCP rifle was a Hatsan Gladius, my opinion is always get the best you can afford as no one has yet proved to me the myth that cheaper air rifles can match the high end PCP's straight out of the box there maybe an argument for some mid range rifles but I've not seen anything under a grand match a FX M3 without having loads of work done on them.
I'd agree with you really mate, you definitely get what you pay for. I think cheaper ones are very hit and miss regarding what you get, 2 examples of the same rifle can be completely different due to quality control and manufacturing. I've done okay with my vectis but I had to spend a little time and money on it out of the box. The vixen feels like it'll last decades though 👍
Awesome video thanks for sharing be safe buddy 💯
Thanks for the run down and review. I'm yet to invest in a PCP and keep umming and ah-ing (no rush as i font have teh dosh anyway). Its good to see & hear some more helpful and practical real world and pest control feedback. The Vixen has been one of those on my (window) shopping list.
Some of these Turkish makers are turning out some great gins for the money though!
@@scruff_uk no worries pal I'm glad you got something from the video, and possibly some stuff other people might not have said 👌 I've had all these a while now and know them well enough to talk honestly about them.
Hand on heart id recommend that vectis if funds are tight, you can add the barrel modification on and I actually put a regulator in mine ( I forgot to say on the video) it didn't improve the accuracy but has improved the shot count. The vixen is unbelievable now the hold overs are a thing of the past 😂
Don't discount a quality springer either, my 97k is amazing, have a look at my video from a couple of months ago 👌👌
@@foggy342Cheers. Aye, might not be my cup of tea the Hatsan tbh, the Reximex Myth maybe a bit more so. And a step up I like the look of the Walther Reign. I get you on the springer, my HW95 has served me flawlessly for nearly two decades to be honest, and still a tack driver. I finally upgraded my scope and that itself has brought a refreshing upgrade to the old work horse. Really appreciate the reply, and all your content. Cheers from Wakey way.
Brilliant review ot your rifles, i use redbeck quite a lot myself, the lads and steph are great to deal with ,always friendly and dont rip you off with trade ins .Ive got a vixen myself but my magazines that i got with the gun have the last shot lock out built into them , ive shot mine out to 100m and it was great ,not pellet on pellet but grouped probably a 50p size, if you get chance call in to yorkshire shooting centre (Mirfield) they've got a good 50m airgun range and its £7 all day👍
Cheers for the comment Scott 🙂 yeah redbeck are spot on mate, very helpful, don't try to rob you, they'll price match for you too 👌 I wish these mags had a hold open built in, I'd happily give up a pellet for it 😂 I actually took my son and his mate over to Doncaster indoor range today and it's spot on bud, first time I've been and I wash impressed with it. Up to 45 yards in an old warehouse, 3 hours and £15 for a lane 👌👌
Interesting look at your stable of pcp's. Never looked at a Vectis properly before and love the look of the underlever action, like you I grew up on Westerns and always wanted to be a cowboy, lol. May have to look at adding one of these to the collection as a new ratting rifle.
You should definitely get hands on with a vectis mate, I'm sure you'd love it 🙂
@@foggy342 trigger pulled (excuse the pun) on a purchase, found one in .177 locally so couldn't resist 😊 think I'll be coming to you for tips on the mods though as it does have a bark in its standard guise
@@the_occasional_carper brilliant mate, let me know how you get with it !! If you're local to me then I certainly don't mind helping you do the barrel modification 👍👍
@@foggy342 many thanks for the offer unfortunately I'm probably a bit far away for assistance. I've been watching a few videos on getting the moderator sorted.
Will certainly let you know how I get on with it 👍🏻
Vixen- negatives: plastic stock is a complete hinderance and only there for cosmetics, this is a big problems for adding gear to gun.
Seems to have poi shift unless u sort plastic handguard or add piccatiny rail under.
No sling points
I think it should of had a bottle around 350cc instead of 250. A better butt stock- its good but its a weird cheek to butstock feel.
The hand grip is average which is a plus but for 1300 i think it needed to fatter and comfier to carry around.
Ability to adjust power/efficiency is not easy (but can be a positive as theres less o rings etc.
Pros- everything else… after u sort plastic rail (even though you shouldnt have to) its a absolute bargin, high end feel, amazing accuracy. Well built from 1 bit of ally. Looks the part.
Vercict- if you were to replace plastic rail for ally and spend sometime upgrading bottle from 250 to 350-480 with a new butt stock i dont think youd ever really have to get another air rifle.
Atg vixen .22 long
How do, one yorkshire lad to another, luv the road tha talks, lol, needless to say ya got another sub , liking the honest reviews, down to earth and honest, Cheers me olde 👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@casperboo5465 thank you pal 👍👍 I try to be nicer on camera 🤣
@@foggy342 🤣🤣😂, lmao, good on ya mate, 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍
I'll do some more on my other Springer's and firearms bud, people seem to have enjoyed this video 🙂🙂👍
I have an S510 and it’s the perfect sub 12 and better when you have it regulated.
@@bodge6886 I've never used one but people seem to rate then highly mate 👍👍
Great vid love the guns can you tell me where you got the nv 400 from been tying everywhere on the net but all seem to come from the USA regards Steve
@@stephenbudd-kt8pt thanks Stephen 👍 they actually sent it to me to test out and review, it came from china and it took about 3 weeks as it got delayed in customs.
hatsan bt 65 rear bolt . almost 10 years old and stackes .22 h and n slugs at 50 i cant complain . no high tech expensive gear needed
Yeah mate, expensive stuff is nice but definitely not required 💪💪
Now then I’m back, do you have a compressor for your pcp’s as I’m thinking of getting one, what’s your thoughts on the wulf compressor? For the money they seem to be ok but I thought I’d ask you first. I’ve also been looking at the bsa model and the umerex but they are a tad more coin.
@@PiperX1X hi Pal, well regards compressor's Jonathan my day job gives me access to some of the best breathing apparatus compressors that money can buy. So I just take my cylinder and fill it up at work, but I'd just just take it to a shop to fill it otherwise.
If I were to buy a compressor for home then I'd definitely buy from all reputable UK dealer and ideally some where close enough that you can take it back in person, as postage would cost a lot if you had to send it.
And on that note I'd go for the one with the best warranty bud, that's my thoughts and I hope it helps 🙂
@@foggy342 I’ve gone for the wulf compressor buddy after all, two year warranty on it and after doing some more digging about them they seem to be spot on and not only that but I’ve bought another pcp! That’s it now not buying anything else.
@@PiperX1X nice 👍 you should do a video on your channel about it mate, people seem to enjoy your airgun chats so why not 🙂🙂
@@foggy342 I haven’t gone mad on a pcp as my hw100 in 177 is magic but wanted something in 22 so gone for a reximex Myth from range and country for £379 and £100 less than anywhere else then topped it off with a Hawke airmax 4-12x40 which is a big enough scope for such a small rifle and barn work. Should be here either tomorrow or Friday morning, only £20 delivery, can’t fall off at that really.
@@PiperX1X happy days bud, hope the new rifle is good for you 👌👌
Very good reviews I may look at that Hatsan 😮
@@edgarmaynard5835 for the money it's amazing Ed 👌👌
@@foggy342 IT is?Vixen omfg so much better then hatsan
Obviously, but on a budget that vectis is superb. At £1320 the vixen is out of reach for a lot of people.
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Iv had 8 pcp and I'll sold all of them I've had my agt vixen short for over 2 years . And I still love it I put a Dempsey carbon shroud on it and it's whisper quite now .
@@leestraughan1979 I've heard a lot of people say that a shroud makes all the difference Lee, it's probably a similar price to putting a moderator adapter etc on it as well 👍
Is the plastic strong enough foro the QD? How long was the warrenty? it's not listed on the AGN website.
@@jp8351 I think it's 3 years mate, I'd have to check with the shop. But yes the plastic is strong enough, I actually drilled and tapped it and it's holding out fine so far 🙂
How do you rate the sightmark wraith mate
I really like it but it's lack of a hash marked reticle is a bad move, battery life is bad and they are AA type (get rechargeable ones from eBay and then it's no problem at all), it doesn't record sound which isn't a problem unless you have a CZcams channel really. But other than that it's really good 👍
Love my Vixen short in
177 ,with the mag plug ,have you got it loose or is it press fitted ? ,,I will make a few on the lathe for mine 😊
The plug is loose, I used some 6mm round and sanded it down to fit. I didn't think 3d printing would be strong enough as it needs a partial lip on the top but it needs to be very thin. It works very well though, you could sell them on eBay I'd say mate 👌
@foggy342 thanks m8 for the tip ,I've got some brass and aluminium ,even a bit of delron ,when I get a moment I will have a go will stick it on the group photos
I loved my vixen but I got rid just fount it really uncomfortable too shoot
@@connor2dap884 yeah I can understand that mate, as I said I do all my pest control from a tripod, so it's fine for me, and my lad loves it. It's definitely not perfect but it's staying in the collection 💪
@@foggy342 fair enough mate. you should do a video of all your springers as well that would be great to see maybe do a series pcps springers than firearms . I shoot a mixture as well just recently took my browning bl grade 2 on the rats 👍
@@connor2dap884 yeah I had that in mind actually buddy 👍 I have a really mixed collection of Springer's.
The best the sightmark or the hic alpex
Alpex from what I've seen (I don't own one)