Is Gary Neville WRONG about Chelsea ‘Bottle Jobs’
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- The Kick Off lads talk Gary Neville’s comments after the League Cup final where Liverpool won 1-0 against Chelsea, as Neville labelled the blues as ‘Bottle Jobs’.
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The bookmakers had Liverpool favourites until the lineups got announced, then Chelsea became bookies favourites
Yea it was one of the very few times when I saw the team and bench and felt ...disappointed before a games began
been shown all season cacedio and enzo just dont work but chelsea team look so unfit and leggy in extra team shocking
Agree with that statement 💯. Most people were thinking the same thing. It was until we seen the lineup most started to give a real chance to Chelsea.
No they didnt
They expected Salah to play aswell
Chelsea’s bench cost 291m, liverpools cost 13m and it was subs that changed the course of the game
golden comment
Van Dijk did not subs
@@dcfootball1 He had a team around him you' muppet
@@paulsmyth3580 Well the keeper was good that's for sure
@@paulsmyth3580put van dijk in that Chelsea team and Chelsea win the game. He was the difference. Not just with the goal either.
Chelsea have lost 6 straight cup finals. I’d call that bottling it.
3. You’re forgetting the Champions League
Chelsea are the new Spurs
3* they won the UCL in 2021 which I don't think anyone would swap for a few poxy domestic trophies.
Don't get me wrong though; it would better to have won at least 1 or 2 of those domestic finals as well as that.
oh they’re poxy now you wouldn’t say that if your team won 🤦♂️
@@barry4649domestic cup trophies that’s 6 in a row, in cup finals against Liverpool that’s 4 in a row
I'm surprised people aren't mentioning that Chelsea had a whole week to prepare and Liverpool had to play Lewton midweek, so they came in even more tired. Shows even more in my opinion that Liverpool gave even more to get that win.
Fr lmao, loosing players every week as well
Ikr it's unreal, Lewton is so much further to travel than Luton 😂
They played Liverpools U21 played for penalties and lost. They're bottle jobs indeed and a disgracefull team
@@davidstephenson164Despicable comment and totally unrelated to football.
PGMOL/Ref did everything to make Chelsea win... Boehly tried to buy the game but football wanted it different, Chelsea winning would have been sickening and the attempted corruption was blatant but football won that day, football prevailed and that was important
@@davidstephenson164keep crying bud
@@davidstephenson164bottled 😂😂😂😂😂
Absolute rent boy
Gary neville was cheering for chelsea to win the cup as he's obviouly desperate for liverpool not to win anything, it was an outburst of frustration with that basically so he wasn't anti chelsea he was being honest about chelseas season overall not just the game.
Not many fans would understand that….
Yes which is very unprofessional. It also doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Anyone with half a brain knew Liverpool was always winning this game. You'd think by the comment chelsea were 2-0 up and lost 3-2. Can't call a team bottlers for losing 1-0 in extra time. It was unprofessional and just a pathetic statement in general due to his frustration.
Didn't Chelsea have 7 days rest for this game, while Liverpool had 3?
It was 7 and 4
Bro it was Thursday Friday and Saturday that's 3
CHELSEA WON'T WIN😢👎
Do you guys know about Brian's islamophobic image? He is so fake
Chelsea played 40 min in a cup final against a U21 team basically, and LOST. that is the definition of bottle jobs.
And spent 1 billion
Irrelevant. Chelsea were never favourites. You can't "bottle it" when u were never favourites. People just like to wind up opposition fans. It's peak internet BS.
@@adtastic15336 finals witgout a cup
@zbian post your club. bet its closer to 6 decades without a cup let alone 6 finals lmao. also, Ill correct you - 6 domestic finals.
@@adtastic1533 you basically explained Chelsea cannot win against 5 players that played pl 2 against U21 stoke team.
Basically no praise towards Liverpool, just if, buts and maybes about Chelsea and their chances
Well its expected. Van Dijk, Roberton, Días etc. We know how good they are.
TG doesn’t like Klopp since he battered Newcastle
"VVD wAs 75 mIliOn"
Lets not pretend that endo didnt body a midfield due that cost 250m and Liverpool didn't field 8 academy players who didnt cost over even a 100th of caicedo
just what i was thinking
im a neutral but hang on, this media narrative is getting outta control, most of your academy players came on right at the end of the game they didn't start
Ok 'deenuk' the anfield regular 😂😂
Caiceido dominated your whole midfield, the result really does change perceptions 🤣🤣
Liverpool were the first club ever to spend 1 billion without winning the PL 😂😂 that's worse
This average age argument that Chelsea fans are arguing about is pointless Liverpool had 2 players over 30 that put that age up and Chelseas young players have miles more experience and cost way more money including 2 100million players
Yeah and those few players overs 21 were the only good players on the pitch for Liverpool, created all their chances, and scored their goal.
Not really pointless then is it
Hang on the only narrative I'm seeing is 'Liverpool's kids' which essentially isn't true.... Chelsea's average age was younger and Chelsea had players in their late 20s too.
@@benkoj6581Chelsea got embarrassed move on
@@davidstephenson164you’re missing the point. Liverpools ‘kids’ are academy graduates who have a handful of mins experience at the top level. Chelsea’s ‘kids’ are hand picked, multi million pound signings, with experience at the top level
Liverpool played 5 people with a combined total of about 700 prem minutes… 450 of them came from quansah… and all had little to no first team experience and played over 45 mins
Danns made his debut against Luton, 4 days before the final
The jealousy in this upload is off the charts. Liverpool ended up with a bunch of BOYS on the field that had hardly kicked a ball at senior level. It's one of the biggest accomplishments of the modern era.
Bro they’re going so easy on Chelsea. If the roles were reversed you know this lot would LAY into Liverpool 😂
It would be insane. Reality is you can’t bottle a final unless you’re like 3-0 up or against 10 men for 60mins+
@@Do27ggexactly. If I walked into a room and heard that on tele as it happened I'd have assumed chelsea were 2-0 up and just lost 3-2.
@@DrBased123 I think they missed a big opportunity against a weakened side but I just hate that word 😂 just trolls
The amount of copium from the Chelsea lads
CHELSEA BOTTLED IT
I shout and repeat so it must he true!
This has to be the only time ever I've heard of a team bottling it when they were never winning. Pathetic statement and makes the term "bottlers" meaningless if you just throw it around at every loss.
It was goalless heading into ET and Klopp had no choice but to sub on #53 and #67 lmao
Joey saying Chelsea didn't bottle because they weren't in pole position to win it - Now he knows how it felt to be a Tottenham fan for all those years for losing things we were never 1st in or in pole position for. Arsenal fans found that out last year too, leading all season and actually doing what could be described as bottling it.
How did Arsenal end up here?😂
Get help
Forgot to mention the finishing third in a 2 horse race was the season Leicester won it and I can tell you now they weren't supposed to win it either
Tbf the term just needlessly gets thrown around these days. You can't bottle something when you were never leading it and that's a fact. Arsenal did actually bottle the league because they were 8 points clear past halfway in the season. Can't think of any other team recently that actually bottled something. People are just desperate to use the term.
@@topogakebobone There is never not time for an arsenal stray
@@DrBased123 Agree with that, ridiculously overused term but I think with some there were some big double standards last year
Having Enzo at the back of your shirt is a mental illness.
How many world cup have u won mate 😂 saying this is mental illness
Good. Let enzo play world fups only then@@goodday4980
@@goodday4980wow did winning a world cup on Messi’s back help enzo yesterday
@@goodday4980 Enzo got a sympathy medal mate. Messi & MacAllister did all the work.
@@TheHadoukenFighter Standard Liverpool fan delusion. Must be all the lead in your water pipes resulting in brain damage.
They got outplayed by shirt numbers 53, 42, 67 and 84 in extra time LMAOOOO
Chelsea are a £1 billion dollar bottle job😂
Shameless coming from a United fan 😂😂
A billion pound dollars. United fan. Cringe.
@@davidstephenson164 yeah im shameless ngl 😂 but my point still stands
the pound dollar is the most backed currency in the world.
@@JacquesBauer89 @davidstephenson164 In fairness im not even a Man Utd fan, but how often do these lads call for Ten Hag to be sacked, even tho he did exactly what Poch couldnt do this season, both clubs are a mess, yet those "narratives" are that only one seems to be all the managers fault and those fans should stop moaning about the owners as they spend money. Considering how anti Utd this channel is, you cant begrudge those fans coming in and having a pop. I wouldnt take either owner at my club, and weve spent the entire season with 12 registered players, a 10 point deduction, a transfer embargo and our staff not being paid. At least our boys play for the shirt.
The difference is, Chelsea’s “kids” play week in week out in the Premier Leauge. One of their “kids” played and won a World Cup Final. Another one of their “kids” has contributed in multiple Premier Leauge winning seasons for City, a UCL winning campaign and played in the Super Cup and FA Cup Final. Yes, City have youngsters but they’re EXPERIENCED FOOTBALLERS at the highest level. Where as, Liverpool’s are INEXPERIENCED. Fact.
Put simply, liverpools ‘kids’ are academy graduates with a handful of minutes experience at the top level. Chelsea’s ‘kids’ are hand picked, multimillion pound signings from across uk and Europe with plenty of experience at the top level.
Plenty? All had about one season mate@@PipJim80
you literally named the only players who actually DO have experience. how about nico jackson with 1 season in la liga and half a season in the prem? caicedo with 1 season in the prem? gusto with 1 season in ligue 1? disasi with a few seasons in ligue 1? colwill with 1 season at brighton? i assume ur talking about palmer contributing to "multiple pl wins" which is a lie since he didnt actually play in any of them. he played in a community shield and super cup, crazy experience that. enzo fernandes half a season at benfica, world cup and then straight to the prem. they're more experienced than the liverpool academy players, but compared to VVD/konate/robertson even KELLEHER lol.
are their prices justified? no. obviously not. no midfielder with 1 season of experience is worth 115million pounds, yet liverpool wanted to pay that nonetheless, then got upset he chose chelsea for LESS wages lol.
@@benny7555you’re comparing a bunch of players that have 1 1/2 seasons of professional football under their belt, to a bunch with less than 10 games.
@@kingluis6360 youre talking about 4 players. you had 4 young academy players on the pitch. and they didnt do anything, they survived long enough to stop us scoring and VVD to work his magic. we lost on your WORLD CLASS defence, dont get gassed.
the fact that every bookmaker had liverpool as favorites after you spent a billion is why your bottle jobs. don’t think it’s that hard to understand
these guys really should have a liverpool fan on
Just have to look at the squad numbers on the back to understand how much of a 'youth' squad Liverpool had on at the end of the game. Chelsea fans trying to say their hundereds of Million pound squad was younger then the Liverpool squad was kinda funny considering Endo was 30 and VVD is 32.
The announcers even refer to the lads by numbers!!! Because they had no juicy stats to comment on😂😂😂😂😂😂
The bottle job got awfully angry didn't he.
Is there live streams for these games still😢?
As others have said, its less about the ages and more about the experience. For example, Harvey Elliott played the full 120 and is barely 20 but he isnt really mentioned as one of the kids, despite being the same age as some of the guys subbed on. Thats because he has top level experience in first team football, much like the majority of the chelsea players, despite their young ages.
The Liverpool subs are all very inexperienced academy players, regardless of age. I think Quansah had the most first team experience of them all and before this season that was at Bristol Rovers, compared to the Chelsea who all have top level first team/UCL/UEL experience in past seasons.
The bottle jobs remark to me seemed to come from Chelsea dropping off in extra time.
Neville already said Chelsea were letting them off the hook during extra time.
Liverpool fan I thought Chelsea were the better team tbh but so proud of our kids klopp is just different level he could play a Sunday league player and not look out of place absolute legend
Level headed, sensible comment. First one I've seen. As a Chelsea fan, I think we played better, but Liverpool showed more desire and quality in ET. Gutted to lose, but happy for Klopp, one of the greatest 👏
"You can't take the age as a comparison" Well.....When you've spent 100+ millions on some of them they should be good enough that age shouldn't matter that much.
The change on mentality from 90th min to the beginning of ET was the definition of bottling it. Chelsea were on top and then played for pens rather than going for the kill.
These chelsea players aren't dumb. Enzo's used to playing with Messi. He knows these clowns in Chelsea's attack were never scoring. Could've given Gallagher, Jackson, and Sterling 5 of those one on ones and they were never scoring. Pens was the only half chance chelsea had of winning but people don't like hearing the truth.
Yo is the kick off live being streamed elsewhere? Where are these clips from?
He wasn’t wrong at all
They lost to a team with Kelleher, Tsimikas, Quansah, Bradley, McConnell, Clark and fucking Jayden Danns
Didn’t know who half these lads were even last week 😂
The thing that Enzo and Caicedo has in common is that both looked worldclass playing a longside Macallister he’s the real deal. Liverpool dodged a few bullets there
Are still angry 😡😅...they both choosed Chelsea 😊
Sky Sports are reporting that Liverpool are to be stripped of the Carabao Cup as several of the players tested positive for Calpol.
Where's the bloody full podcast shown?
Was there a livestream yesterday for the final ? Couldnt find it
did you guys do the game? was looking but couldnt find your stream so just assumed there wasnt one.
On twitch I think mate
nothing uploaded on twitch in 8 months, this show used to be top tier
@@Jacob-vt2bz still is, think they must steam on CZcams now?
£600m is the what you lot put on the pitch, we put out £230m.
Ehhh closer to 343m for Liverpool iirc
At least, I'm using Transfermarkt data
@@kyanzennaro2290 Fine, still almost half of the Blue billion dollar bottlejobs.
@@officialrebel_ truuuu tho
Are there no more live videos?
Can't even find the recording of the match
Once Klopp brought on McConnall, Danns, and Tsmikas, after already bringing on Clarke, i literally sat and said "hes resigned to a loss here to protect our players from injury" and chelseas reaction to that was play counter attack for penalties, before the game, no one expected them to win, until them lineups came out and there was no Darwin or Mo in the squad
And the argument of average age is bollocks because its not about age, its about look at the amount of games these boys have actually played
Poch isn’t the guy but regardless the board are the main issue, their recruitment strategy has put us in this position
Was this game streamed on YT?
Some people are just hurt. He’s calling them bottle jobs for their Extra time performance. not the 90 minutes and tbh I thought the 90 minutes chelsea and Liverpool both made chances and hit the post and gave as good as the got bar a goal. But in extra time bar the end of the first half it felt like Liverpool were the ones trying to work a chance to win the game and Chelsea had like one counter in ET.
10 first team players missing, including the best RW and GK in the world, injuries in the game, using 8 academy players, chelsea having a week rest and prep and them having the £120m midfielfer that they gazumped Liverpool signing. That's the bottlejob story.
PGMOL/Ref did everything to make Chelsea win... Boehly tried to buy the game but football wanted it different, Chelsea winning would have been sickening and the attempted corruption was blatant but football won that day, football prevailed and that was important
What😂😂 pep clears flopp
bottle job refers to extra time
although chelsea average age was lower, that is down to their not having many older players.
Liverpool had a load of green teenagers + guys in their 30s/ late twenties
and the kids where the ones who had the bottle to try to win
How comes the Kick Off live watch along isn't on CZcams? What's it on now?
I think they record this after the games. Not during. Usually streamed on CZcams
I don’t really get why Chelsea fans are defending their team. I’d be absolutely embarrassed and disappointed with that extra time performance. They have spent billions of pounds and failed to finish off a team half full of kids. Bottle jobs is the perfect description.
Yeah your right injuries definitely cost Chelsea that game, just need to spend another 1 billion, I think you might win a league cup next year if you do
If this was arsenal or spurs they would be called bottle jobs, its as simple as that
u lost to kids have some shame
You do understand Chelsea's average age was lower than Liverpool? Bin dipper.
@@davidstephenson164 u do know some of these player have never started a game for Liverpool u muppet
@@chrisescudero5187 So then the kids thing you said doesn't wash does it? Typical smooth 🧠 Liverpool fan, wow 🙄
@@davidstephenson164bottledddd hahaha 😂😂😂😂
Bottleeeeeee job mug
Where do we find the live stream for this?
Where are the full episodes these clips are from?
I've noticed there Arnt live streams for these, does anyone know the reason?
I mean there’s a reason why Klopp played the younger players rather than keep the older ones on. It’s obvious Liverpool are a collective unit as you can see shades of the first team players in the academy players and the way that Kelleher would move was Alison like. I think it’s cause Liverpool won because Klopp out coached Poch
Well I made it 8 mins in before having to stop at least this time. Man the Kick Off has really fallen from grace in the last year. Too many deluded fans on this show who can’t accept reality.
Liverpool were favourites only until the teamsheet came out, then Chelsea were favourites.
Liverpool had no Salah, Jota, Nunez, Thiago, Szoboszlai, Trent, Matip, Alisson and lost Gravenberch inside half an hr. We had a bunch of academy kids in McConnell, Quansah, Bradley, Danns and Clark on the pitch at the end, only Bradley had more than 10 appearances and one only made his debut this week.
And to cap it all Liverpool played midweek and Chelsea didn’t.
This was absolutely one of the all time bottle jobs. Chelsea will never have a better chance to beat Liverpool in a cup final than that and the psychological damage that bottling has done might well prove to be massive. That game will be iconic in years to come as a symbol of Chelsea under Boehly
totally agree it’s getting harder to watch
Its funny that Joey is being salty about the media showing respect to Klopp on the way out. Chelsea lost both times since He backed them to get a result at Anfield lmao.
If Liverpool are so beatable then what are they doing on top of the league table
Chelsea bottled it in extra time, Poch even said they were playing for penalties and that`s when Klopp put his kids on the field.
As a Liverpool fan I thought in the second half Chelsea played so well that they should've been going into extra time going for our throat. And they didn't do it. They thought it they settled for penalties Liverpool would. That was the moment people are talking about.
How come they dont stream this live anymore
What streams this from ?
Please, can one of you guys PLEASE explain to joey, it's FAVOURITE not " fravourite "
These are not on CZcams anymore are they?
🔻Poch has 1 thing in common with Pep🔻
Both usually pick the right starting formation then make the wrong changes. This is why we rarely see pep uses all of his substitutes🤏He knows he makes changing mistakes, but Poch seems still unaware of his shortcoming😒
Chelsea had far more expensive and experienced players on the field throughout 30 mins of extra time and totally bottled the chance to go and win it.
Gary N said the bottling comment was about the Extra time - NOT about the regular time which was a pretty even match. It was when Chelsea WERE THE CLEAR Favorite going into ET and shockingly sat back and waited for penalties (Poch actually admitted to this) . It’s like playing against 9 men and being defensive. THAT is the DEFINITION of bottling it .
Let’s be honest Neville had that line prepared all week and regardless of the result was going to say it, clown
We absolutely bottled the final, you can't be the better side for 90 minutes and lose. You also can't play for pens with a team you lost twice in row on pens with. The saddest part is Chelsea currently has no identity. No Spine. We once had Cech-Terry-Lampard-Drogba Which turned into Courtois-Cahill-Hazard-Costa Which then went to Mendy-Rudiger-Mount-Werner. It's a mess right now, we need more personalities in the dressing room and we need leaders in the team.
Only Chelsea player was injured is James why isn't TG pushing to ask who was missing
Liverpool's average was pulled up by a handful of players, including players in their 30s.
It was Liverpool Academy players with very few minutes played, and very few games against regular starters. The favourites according to the bookies after the starting lineups were Chelsea.
Chelsea played for a draw, when everything was in their favour.
Could you guys have a chat about the current situations at both Rochdale and Torquay United?
bottle or not elite teams would see a bunch of academy players coming on and be thinking we will batter these men v boys
BOTTLE JOBS, PERFECT ANALOGY, END OF.
To date Chelseas lowest premier league finish is 14… 1993-95 the highest they finished was 11th … the 7 seasons before abramovic their highest position was 3rd they only got into the top 4 on 3 occasions with the other 3 finishes were two 6 placed finishes and one 5th… and in those 7 seasons they outspent Liverpool, Newcastle, arsenal, Spurs and villa … in fact Chelsea benefitted from the “attraction to London” as top foreign players didn’t want to live in Newcastle, Liverpool and Aston Villa …
The youngsters Liverpool brought on have a combined 31 mins played in the prem you bottled it🤣
'people keep saying we were absolutely destroyed' who is saying that? It was a game that went back and forth until around 75 minutes where Chelsea were dominating. Then ET it completely flipped which was crazy
I would love to see Brian’s reaction if it was man united in Chelseas position.
The difference between Chelseas young squad and Liverpool kids are Liverpool didnt spend insane amount of money. And these young kids arent playing week in and week out in high level whilst Chelsea players were boughf using insane amounts as First Team players.
I will volunteer as a livepool pundit in your podcast
How can you sit there and try to defend Chelsea. Yes you bottled it, your entire season came down to that game and you sit back and play counter attack against a bunch of kids. You won’t get another chance that good to win a trophy- that is the definition of bottling it
It’s bottling because in extra time Liverpool had 2 starting players on the field. Chelsea should’ve won that game and didn’t.
In extra time Chelsea bottled it.
Sure at the start of the game they weren’t favourites but when you get to extra time, as the team on top, against a young and massively inexperienced side and completely shrink, that’s bottling.
They actually were the bookies favourites at the start of the game. Once the lineups were announced and it was seen how depleted the Liverpool squad was Chelsea became favourites. A bottling of epic proportions.
No it 100% was a bottle. Pre match I agree it would be harsh to call you bottlejob but through the 90 I'd argue Chelsea were the better team and then in extra time they parked the bus against subbed on kids and lost. BOTTLED IT
where tf is the full video?
The Chelsea fan giving Chelsea the excuse that some of their players were playing with knocks and not being rested would put them at 40% of their ability was hilarious. Liverpool have that with their entire senior squad and also played midweek with Chelsea having a full week to recover. LOL
Where were the players who spanked Villa and gave City a scare (twice!)?
This Chelsea team is so confusing.
Chelsea's average age was younger, but the difference is that their youngsters have proven top flight experience while Liverpool's were virtually straight out of their academy.
Thank you Chelsea for taking Caicedo we can't thank you enough for that one! YNWA 😊
I keep hearing this comment....but before we got Endo everyone was worried he would be gash. I reckon it's the Kllop effect....he brings in players and usually doesn't stat them straight away until they've learned his system....I reckon Caicedo would have been far better going into Liverpools more stable team than what he's performed for Chelsea....
He would have and we did want him but you can't argue Liverpool did well getting Endo the Samurai and Macallester. Caicedo would probably have been decent for Liverpool especially since he had already played a season with Macalater but he would have cost an extortionate price
They have spent a billion and lost to kids...Bottlejobs doesn't even begin to describe it.
Liverpool were the first club to spend 1 billion without winning the PL 😂😂
@davidstephenson164 that 1 billion was spent over many many years on different squads and generations. Chelsea spunked a billion up the wall in a couple of years and are a mid table club with no future.
@@All-Outta-Bubblegum Irrelevant, first club to spend 1 billion without winning the PL is shameful 😂😂 what did they even win in that time? Other than that flukey UCL in 05 after robbing Chelsea in the semis (ghost goal) wasn't it like 4 trophies who no one cares about ?😂
@@davidstephenson164You're still crying about 2005!! How about crying over 6 final defeats in recent years. How about crying over 4 of Klopp's final wins coming at your expense.
@@wdred 1 PL, same as Blackburn and Leicester, I rest my case.
The reason people are critical of Caicedo and Enzo, is because you spent so much fucking money on them. If you didn't spend so much on them, people wouldn't be so critical. Simple.
200m midfield should play like 200m midfield.
Chelsea stopped playing in OT against a team that was there for the taking. That's why Neville was annoyed, chelsea legit was intimitated by youngsters
Forget the bookies. Look at our team sheet and tell me honestly that you weren't favourites? Come on man. Chelsea could of won this game but ultimately didn't. Liverpool's monster mentality, hunger to win and Klopp's calmness won us this game.
This was a top final and enjoyable to watch!
Gallagher had a good game for getting in those spots and so much space but also a bad one for missing those chances. Caicedo had a really bad game, didn’t feel like he ever got the ball without giving a foul away
lol he said there’s anti connection 😂😂😂
I wonder what unbiased take Brian is gonna spew out on Liverpool since that man has been bitter and angry about Liverpool ever since his team got beat by us lol
Chelsea bottled it by the fact that they were slightly the better side over the 90 mins. When those kids came on in extra time, if Chelsea had carried on playing the way they did, they would've beat Liverpool. The kids were allowed to play with confidence because Chelsea didn't do much to stop that. Liverpools kids were flicking the ball around, doing stepovers in the box etc
Joey must be purposely missing the point. Liverpool brought the kids on in extra time and Chelsea visibly shrank rather than got encouraged, they bottled it.
Chelsea have a squad of players who are young that's there starting 11 , Liverpool had 3 senior players left on the pitch ajd kids who never had first team experience. Thats a bottle job
The "Gallagher is Chelsea's best player" narrative is the most infuriating part of being a Chelsea fan right now - Caicedo has been tremendous for us but gets no recognition whatsoever - Enzo I'm ambivalent about, he has not been a standout