Dan Ashworth ABANDONS Newcastle, but will he TRANSFORM Man Utd
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2024
- True Geordie reacts to Dan Ashworth demanding to leave Newcastle in favour of Manchester United as Joey, Josh & Jacob answer how important Ashworth is to United.
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As a United fan I am just loving it seeing the agony and pain in Geordie's eyes😂😂😂
Why‘s everyone hating him??
There really isnt at all. I think youre making that up tbh
I'm looking forward for the 20 million man utd will have to hand over
Funny how he’s down playing it so much 😅😅
He will do really well for Utd in 2026
Before even opening this video I knew that he would say Dan Ashworth isn’t all that🤣🤣🤣
Liar
If he was joining Newcastle he would say he is brilliant
So the guy who is respected by the entire footballing world and renowned for being one of the best DOFs in the world is all of a sudden unimportant bc he’s taking a promotion. Funny
😅r. Mkg
He got 2 promotions by doing just little improvements... If he doesn't improve United on year 1 he is going down for sure.
Exactly. And if there was someone better around than Ashworth then why didn't Newcastle hire that person instead of paying Brighton compensation to get Ashworth?
@colinmufc and why are they asking for 15 million for him or else they will pay him for 20 months to sit at home
promotion? 😂😂😂😂😂
United must've really ruined geordies childhood 😂
That Kevin Keegan speech was in 1996. Geordie would have been 8-9 years old at the time. Man Utd definitely ruined his childhood
Could be worse, could be a glory seeker who supports Manchester having never been there, like 95% of Man U fans. At least he's true to his club@@pratosaurusrex1128
They must have cos they ruined mine and I’m a Newcastle fan. He’s making it out to be a bigger thing than what it is. Ashworth did a good job, wouldn’t say a great one. Our summer transfer window was a poor one short term wise anyway. Next season may be different.
Lol sir alex ruined everyone's true geordie hate united with a absolute passion for a reason😂
Josh was absolutely quality in this. Talked so much sense.
Should be careful might get fired like the rest
How? in his main argument to support Ashworth (in regards to his newcastle comments) he refused to accept that Eddie was literally doing the same thing before Ashworth was. Then he tried to make a point that you can't credit Eddie for his signing pre Ashworth? Who else decided to buy them then? Nobody is saying Eddie did ALL the hard work, but it was very clear that every player Eddie took an interest in had to fit a certain profile, he had a vision, and the majority of his signings have been outstanding for us as a result.
@@ZombieG24 💯
@@ZombieG24eddie hasnt been doing what ashworth does tho
@@jonnyhill1155 and just what exactly has Ashworth done? spent 35m on Hall who can't even get subbed on the last 5 minutes of a match?
Josh is the only one talking sense, the others doesnt seem to want to rub geordie the wrong way
They scared of him
He keeps around a load of coattail hangers now that are there for the dosh, The last lot who left used to call him out like the fool he is and he hated it. At least Josh isnt just a kiss ass like the others.
When he was making a good point geordie just cut him off.
NUFC currently use a set up that there is a board which includes Howe and Ashworth, who deal with transfers and ultimately our Chairman or a PIF representative of him signs it off. And even before Ashworth we have been setting up all the internal mechanisms that a club has that Ashley left us bare bones with. We just do not know what Dan Ashworth has actually done. Our best signings, Trippier and Bruno were done before him.
100%
fair play to Josh he is the only one who challenges what brian says
I dont understand how they can all sit there having this conversation without having done any research on the person they are talking about.
Manchester United are not signing Dan Ashworth to identify new signings. Newcastle didn’t sign him for that reason either. Hes a sporting director and hes got a track record thats as good as anyone. This isnt the end of the world for Newcastle but there arent many people in the world they could bring in that would be considered an upgrade on Dan Ashworth.
Guy who has know idea what a DOF is: "DOF isn't important"
Fucking geniuses this lot
@@DuskPatrolNewcastle without a DoF: 4th place
Newcastle with Dan Ashworth: 8th place
Man Utd Europa Conference push on the cards? 🥶🥶
Ah, the classic “we didn’t want him anyway” defense
Brian is raging 😂😂😂 the start was such a tell tale sign 😂😂😂
I think Geordie had a much better show when he had people who didn't just agree with his opinion. This bunch just hear him out and find a different way to all be agreed
Why does everyone think Pope was a free transfer? He cost £10 mill.
Geordie is Salty😂
Bro it ain’t that deep, Man U Are still going to be hopeless
@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167 Newcastle are 8th and have no chance of being in Europe next season
thank you nostradamus@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167
@@RandomVideosFirst what’s your point you melt? Man U spent over 1 billon. I’ll leave that there
@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167 a billion with the wrong people in charge is still wasted money. Changing personnel with people more qualified will make a difference. delusional to think this won’t make a difference.
shock joes agreeing with every word georide says absolute yes man
Josh said Caicedo cost bright 28m 🤣🤣 it was 5m
Dan Ashworth is gods gift, untill he wants to leave a small club for a big oppurtunity and you are unhappy with it :D
Don't nothing his last window in the off-season was woeful
@@denisjeux1020 you mean the summer transfer window? lmao
@hair6789 yeah it wasn't great with tonali getting banned as well
@@denisjeux1020 yeah lets just ignore all the previous work hes done because he had a bad summer transfer window yeah lets do that lmfao
I’m not really bothered about him leaving Newcastle. He can get replaced
TG has really changed from the old days. He got aggressive towards Josh for no reason here.
Judging someone's entire personality from a youtube video is extremely parasocial lmao
@@ZombieG24 Nah he did get aggressive, its like saying you dont care about something but getting worked up enough to come across agressive, screams that he seems bothered 🤷♂
Roid rage
Yall really need to relax they’re trying to make content. He wasn’t even that aggressive, and what do you mean he changed?? Tf are you talking about hes been an aggressive person since the beginning. Yall are clowns
We all know he is an insecure little man inside😂
Ashworth's name was made at WBA, not England. He was working in the youth academy before the owner created a role for him to step into that is now known as the DOF. This included a big emphasis on the scouting department. Under him we got Odemwingie, Yacob, Dorrans, Mulumbu, Olsson, Macauley and many more. Ashworth oversaw our best PL finishes before leaving for England in 2012. It was arguably the end of the progress we made to that point and most west brom fans would say him leaving was bigger than any player or manager. He is smart, driven, grounded and has a point to prove with a big job at United. A savvy signing.
Welcome to the kick off, where Brian will discredit everything Manchester United and just in case his nonsense gets called out, his lacky Joey Knight will back him up just in case it means more work on youtube.
Fact
Never seen a truer comment 😂😂😂
All the better guys on kick off left unfortunately
Who's that team we call United? 😂😂 I love this.
Newcastle yeh? Because Manchester isn't united it has 2 clubs lol
@davidknight2104 United and City yeah? Hahaha nice try buddy. 😏
Haha. Deleted the comment. That's hilarious
@@nickycadogan I don't think you understand - Manchester is united because it has 2 clubs. Newcastle is united because it has 1 hope that clears that up.
@davidknight2104 Yeah lad no Utd fans care about that, just Newcastle fans I guess (and Chris Sutton) 🤣🤣
My man is panicking and making excuses
Everyone forgets the miracles Ashworth worked at West Brom too. He was absolutely monumental in maintaining them as an established premier league team on a minimal budget for a number of years. The academy was also top class as well with a number of players from that period of time excelling in their senior careers. Ashworth is unreal. Wherever he goes, the success follows, it’s not a coincidence.
So happy Josh didn’t let Brian steam roll the conversation just cause he got angry
jesus the big bears obsessed with us ,,,, 😂😂😂
are you from Manchester?
Absolutely mental, isn’t it?
Big Bear? 😂😂😂
@@user-bq2tc6dh6twhy does it matter
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t lol another guy who's obsessed with united
1:37 He wasn't expecting that😂
The guy in the white headphones and top, is the only one on the table that has sense
Geordie is sh*ting himself and now slagging all the players Ashworth signed now that he left for a bigger club , news flash Newcastle did the same to him when he was at Brighton but you didnt feel a way about it did you..?. It's just sour grapes at this point , youre just trying to convince yourself that Ashworth has no value and suddenly has all these negatives about him.
No Jacob‘s a yes man aswell and can‘t take hits towards arsenal
Josh is probably the most honest
He’s an idiot too. He couldn’t wait to mention Edu winning some bogus directors award. What happened to all the dodgey Brazilian deals he’s made that disappeared into nowhere ie Marquinhos. Or signing any of Kia’s third party players like Willian, Luis and Mari. Mate got an award for spending 750 million to finish second. Then another 100 for another to stay second.
The whole football world rates Ashworth. Newcastle went and hand picked him from righton and paid compensation to them to get him in quick. But now all of a sudden Newcastle fans don't rate him and Newcastle won't care if he leaves. If there was someone better around then Newcastle would have hired that person instead of Ashworth
It took 6 months and they finished 4th in the meantime. After joining, they are struggling to field a starting XI and are 8th in the premier league. Obviously they aren’t going to care
I think the move is more important to Manchester United then it is detrimental to Newcastle.
As a United fan, to see the salt 🧂 is beautiful 😂
I've a feeling True Geordie doesn't understand how a DOF works.
He hasn't got an idea how a lot of things work in football. He claims to in touch with the grape vine but it's all guesswork
You can’t negate what ashworth achieved saying that the prices he paid for players was very high.
The fact that Newcastle were rich and it being shouted from the roof tops was always going to inflate all the incomings regardless, stupid point in my opinion
And so expect the same at man u but on steroids
@@davidknight2104 Obviously… it’s not like it’s new for United. Is Antony a 70m player? Was Harry maguire an 80m player?
When people know you are wealthy you have to pay a premium. Which is exactly why the point is stupid
@@jaybee6372 and you pay it like stupid morons
The issue here is Fans have zero knowledge of who actually signs the players... Unless you are on the inside and see the full reports you don't know who should be given credit on recruitment... For example Brighton have an extensive data team feeding recommendations.... I doubt Dan is a recruitment guy... It sounds like he is good at sorting out structures... Youth, medical, logistics...
Exactly, didn't understand how these channels that purely focus on footy content didn't know that. It's well known
True Geordie absolutely inhaling the copium in this one 💀💀😂😂😂you can hear the frustration in his voice lmao
Didn't Chelsea take a load of Brighton's scouting and recruitment team when they poached Potter??
Yeah pretty sure all of brightons advantage is the software/data collection capabilities tony bloom has through gambling not the individual scouts.
brighton use some mad softwear and data nerds to make all their signings, dan ashworth helps set the infrastructure.
@@SopranoLFCand then fans try and say he is the one scouting and signing them madness
@@SopranoLFC I reckon they just play Football Manager
Btw, we only asked for 15m for lingard as revenge foe the 50m you wanted for longstaff
That's different that's a player we didn't want to sell... where as lingard was surplus to requirements
@@davidknight2104honestly think United fans had no idea Newcastle had such resentment about this Lingard thing until this situation now with Ashworth
@joriordan1654 sounds about right tbh, an eye for an eye, they just don't like it when they don't get their own way
Josh is the only reasonable person on this show lmaoo
this has just turned into a anti united show FFS honestly. Slowly going off the kick off unfortunately because I love it
The og kickoff roster was better. Even if it was also highly anti United
Every single time Brian talks about United he mentions them having the most valuable squad in the world and nobody says anything, via transfermarkt its ranked as the 10th most valuable so i really need to know where he gets his information from.....and Newcastle are 11th...
in fairness he didn’t say most valuable he said most expensive which is true… recent report came out about united transfers added together led them to have the most expensive side ever assembled, think it was last seasons squad
@@williamhogan1701 that is even worse, he is blaming Ten Hag and using this "most expensive" point even though it is largely down to previous managers overpaying for players
Josh thank you for being the only one not trying to trash this. Pretending Dan isn’t an amazing poach is stupid. City and Newcastle just aren’t Manchester United it’s simple, no need to cry about it. I don’t get why we are pretending Manchester United is a bad place to be, new ceo, new dof, above Newcastle last year (beat them in a final too), above them this year, bigger transfer pull, easier ffp compliance and greater talent pool to work with.
Geordie u had this coming after all that united talk in before this 😂😂
Geordie is soooo salty😂🧂
Big bear 🐻 😂😂
Joey is just here to ride tg
😂And he rides pretty well, too well infact for my taste
If he was as unimportant as they're making out Newcastle wouldn't have spent millions getting him and wouldn't be demanding 20 m for him
do they realise we've also signed other people in higher up positions to Ashworth? Man United will 100% be back at the top within the next 3-5 years. Ashworth is one of the smartest men in football and to pair him up with Omar Barrada, Jean Claude Blanc, Jason Wilcox etc, United will benefit massively
Geordie is hilarious. Any time anyone tried to make a point about Ashworth's credibility, he'd just switch it to some irrelevant stat about United...the guy in the Nike jumper is absolutely hopeless... literally proved the point he was trying to argue against saying Caicedo got sold for 100m
Weren't the scouts doing a great job at Brighton because he changed the way they looked at people. I could be wrong but im sure he changed from regional to positional.
I suggest TG looks at what Ashworth did at West Brom.
Not sure Newcastle tried too hard to keep him. Tonali shambles was on his watch!
Guys get a United fan on this asap , because this is laughable . I love it generally but anything related to United on this is just a joke
True Geordie talking absolute cack. Dan Ashworth has overseen fantastic periods at WBA, Brighton, Newcastle, and England. That's not a coincidence.
Geordie cant get his head around the fact Manchester United are a bigger club than Newcastle
Newcastle aren’t the 8th biggest club in the Prem
How come there wasn't a live stream this past weekend?
Guy in the Nike is up geordies ass like mad
Hurt feelings. Poor Brian, just sad. He has no clue. Ashworth will not be sitting at home doing nothing. Newcastle will be paying his wage to work for M.United.
20:50 Nobody in Italy knew that Tonali had a gambling addiction
WHO’S THE TEAM WE CALL UNITED???? 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another reason for Brian to lose his mind about Manchester United. I love it.😂
As expected the Chelsea fan has no shame in kissing Brian’s ass.
Hi guys we tried to sign botman in the January so he was a Eddie Howe and the board signing,but he wanted to wait until the summer that is why he signed 8 months after
How can you say Tonali is the worst signing in football history when he hasn’t even played yet? Then say Barnes being average this year has something to do with Ashworth? 😂
TG sucking off howe as well is pathetic
This guy is being salty. If Newcastle didn’t rate him, they wouldn’t have hired him from Brighton.
Was waiting for this video, headloss was better than expected🤣🤣🤣
As a Spurs fan, I know a DoF is INSANELY important
For example, check our record of signings with a DoF and without one. The difference is comical 😂
The absolute denial for TG. Listen to him try and downplay how important a DoF is.
Brian talking like United started the over pricing for players between Newcastle and United, when United wanted to sign Longstaff Newcastle quoted United 50 million for a player who had played 13 games or something 😂
You wanted for 50 mil for longstaff
Remind that big dosser!😂
So the whole video Brian discredits Ashworth definitely upset with a possibility of him leaving
No way they tried to spin this that newcastle want ashworth gone 😂😂
Credit to him, Dan Ashworth has somehow build up this mystical reputation as being a genius talent identifier, which is just not true. At Brighton he had close to nothing to do with the transfers listed by Josh, it's mostly down to Tony Bloom's data analytical software Starlizard that finds and breaks down these talents, then head of recruitment/scouting Paul Winstanley and Sam Jewell. Then again at Newcastle, he had so little to do with any of the top signings.
If he had nothing to do with anything why were Newcastle paying him then 😂
@@utwxyz123 never said "he had nothing to do with anything", just tot talent identification. Might be worth doing some research on all the roles of a SD 👍.
Botman,Bruno,Isak,Target,Pope and trippier were all Howe signings.
Used to watch the kickoff, to enjoy the content, now just here to watch Geordie cry about United every week
As a Newcastle fan I couldn’t really care less about him leaving. I have no doubt he quality at his job but he hasn’t been here long enough to really make an impact on us. Our club has already been given the blueprint from him anyways so it’s not that bad. The misconception of him signing all of our best players is laughable also. He’s maybe responsible for Gordon & Livramento who are the good signings. The summer window just gone was HUGE for us but we didn’t plan well & look how it’s hindered our season.. so if he’s so good, what’s the reason for a poor window? I think Ashworth will do well for the reds but our owners have shown ambition & improved us hugely over the 2.4years & will find another candidate with similar credentials. Just find Manchester Red fans’ behaviour towards us strange 😂
The saltiness in this stream from geordie & the dude in the Nike tracksuit was glorious
Are Man U fans gonna be happy with no name signings? Gambles for the future? Are they gonna be happy waiting until 2026? Are they gonna cough up the 20 mil? Are they still a bunch of wankers? The only yes to this is probably the latter 😂
If he's so unimportant, let him go to United for free then.
Na mate cough up 20 mil please 😂 lingard is worth 12 mil for 6 months then Dan is worth double surely? If not you can have him in 2026 xx
@@adamturnbull92Newcastle started that rubbish. £50m for Longstaff? Please…
@@adamturnbull92 will Newcastle win a trophy by 2026 ? Xx
@@adamturnbull92Newcastle fans still being so salty over a Lingard LOAN just shows their small club mentality 🤣 embarrassing.
Joey @13:49 They moved on Trossard for £20m and that was massively underpriced and a fantastic move for Arsenal
Would literally be saying the opposite point if Ashworth had decided to stay… denial is the first stage of grief bro 😂
Ashworth isn’t necessarily the talent ID guy for incoming players, at Brighton he was the guy in charge of outgoings and contracts etc amongst other things and he worked with someone else who was in charge of incomings but it was a team effort, they’d both have input on all of it
Ashworth is a great football man, one of the best and we need that at united - glad he is the kind of candidate we are going for
Getting bitchy because someone disagrees with him 😂😂😂 this is brilliant 😂😂
Geordies cope in this episode is everything I thought it was going to be. Will be even better when Howe is sacked at the end of the year
😂😂not even a utd fan but why does this lot hate utd so much 😂😂 like its been no secret that they need a DOF .. but now that they have identified one now all of a sudden that position is overrated???? Make it make sense
I've no problem with him going, but unless UTD pay for him then i'm happy for him to sit on the side for another 18 months sooner than Utd get him on the cheap
Stupid sour grapes take. Pathetic. As a Newcastle fan since 97, this is just an exercise in convincing himself that Ashworth wasn’t a big loss
You are literally the first Newcastle fan who has some sense and isn’t lying to himself that it is a loss.
😂😂😂 im glad I clicked this video !!
Mate when Newcastle got Ashworth as a director of football you were over the moon and now you’re bitter because he’s decided to go to a bigger club
Thanks for that. Very informative. Can’t get that info just anywhere. I was very upset, let’s say, about DA leaving us. But if all of that is true about his relationship with EH and the disagreements over signings, then it is best he leaves. I just hope we can rebuild the scouting structure and make it work for us.
The 15 mill loan fee for lingard was a knock back for when Newcastle charged 50 mill for longstaff back in 2019
So yeah it’s all evened out
Also he negotiates the signings he has scouts that pick them out.
The transfer fee argument is ridiculous. Hes never gonna be able to buy players for a reasonable price at Man utd or even Newcastle.
😂salty…it’s easy to understand United didn’t have any structure and have been wasting money on unnecessary signings but still United is a top 4 team for the last 10 years…now imagine when there is a structure it’s about margins on the top of the table…
Glazers still the owners , nothings changing
12:05 When asked why eddie how shouldnt be sacked for getting booted out the ucl brian will make all sorts of excuses like oh we had injuries oh it was an extremely tough group but when it comes to ashworth its because he didnt build a good squad is why newcastle got knocked out 😂😂
Head of newcastles scouting team is a bloke called Steve nickson i believe...think he brought players like asm and joelinton so been there a while he does the scouting Eddie and the owners picked which plauers out the target list given to them by Steve and Dan ashworth was the one who negotiated the deals ...he did identify some think Harvey Barnes and Anthony gordon was something to do with ashworth......think Dan's good at his job but defiantly overhyped...not a certainy he will do well at manure other clubs will still want more money from them in transfers cos its man united 🤷♂️
Josh just lives off True G's opinions, and not just in this video. Find your own mind.
don't think i've ever seen him have a different opinion to True G
I'm only here for the tears 😢😂i love it
Brian is just trying to reduce the shame he's feeling about losing his Director to United. "He's not that great. NO big loss." lmao
True geordie really just talks without knowing much Lewis has a clause where Newcastle have to pay a certain amount if he plays a certain number of games
Honestly couldn’t care less that he’s leaving, however I do want us to take every penny we can from Man U…..payback for the Lingard loan or even better let Ashworth have to wait 20 months 😂😂
Ohhh u forget u wanted 50m for Longstaff😅
@@dougmeister339 Mike Ca$hly did lol
Yeah, becuase paying the wages of multiple DoF's will do well for your FFP issues wont it?, fking dmbass Newcastle fans.. You do realize he'll be working for United behind the scenes from home while you pay his wages for us if that happens, right?
feel like you’re not allowed to challenge brian anymore he gets so mad and you can clearly see these lot don’t want to lose there place so they don’t challenge in conversation it’s like brian just wants them to be like “you know what yeah you’re right” and I love this podcast but let the others speak and don’t get angry when you don’t agree kind of thing
Someone should actually understand who actually did the Brighton signings. The owner has a proprietary software that the scouts use for scouting players. Ashworth never brought that with him. Good Luck to Man U
Exactly thank you people need to do some research sky sports said ashworth brought Bruno in even tho he came in months before ashworth it’s so dumb man 😂🤦♂️
Botman wasn't an Ashworth signing, we tried to get him the window before Dan Ashworth came in.