Why The Kick Off Ended! Laurence McKenna Meets Goldbridge
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- Mark Goldbridge meets Laurence McKenna, co founder of the Kick Off with The True Geordie, and asks where it all went wrong?
From creating one of the forerunners in independent fan content to it's untimely end Mark Goldbridge discusses with Loz the impact the Kick Off had on fan media and how he feels about The Club, The United Stand and the current state of play in football fan entertainment.
0:00 Introduction and The Kick Off beginnings
15:03 That moment True Geordie said what he said
25:14 The origins of The Club and why the all left?
40:18 Are Loz and True Geordie still friends? - Hry
Something a bit different. I love this industry and this is something I'd been interested in for a long time as a big fan of the Kick Off in it's original conception. Fair play to Loz for being open to doing this and I think it's a fair appreciation and story for everyone involved.
Brilliant, fair open discussion wish every other channel in this space could be more like this and not have their own agendas and try to discredit other channels in this industry
TG next?
he was embarrased about that hair. an too right its atroucious
Top quality again Mark! Loz is a nice guy and I hope some day he and Brian can patch things up. You only get one life
It's really great Mark.. I enjoyed it alot
I actually like how blunt and non words mincing Goldbridge is in this, asking questions without frolocking around
You can see his detective qualities coming through
@@decmadine This aint b99 pal
hes quite irritating
TBF, it's the perfect approach with Loz and even Brian I think. Both of them like to be direct usually
Goldbridge is a 40 something year old man on CZcams. Lmao get a grip you wolloper.
As someone who’s spent 1000s of hours watching Mark, Brian (True Geordie) and Laurence, this was a brilliant podcast to hear. I think Laurence chose the right person to sit down and talk about it with. I hope Laurence and Brian can find a way back to each other, they were an unbeatable partnership when it comes to podcasting and streaming. Even if they don’t though, they’ve got an incredible back-catalogue of work that will stand the test of time, so thank you to both of them for giving us that over the years. ❤️
It does feel quite sad that Brian and Lawrence don't have any kind of relationship anymore. I hope they're able to reconcile in some way
@@nikitapearson5509seen the state of Laurence the now tho 😂 guys bacically female
Sounds like a waste of life imo. 1000s of hours is crazy 😂😂
why does Rory not get a mention?He will now produce a separate video on his importance
honestly Loz deseves better than Brian. Brian is genuinely a woman-hating idiot who doesn't want to change. Loz deserves a creative partner who is willing to grow with him, not one who is going to ruin his career with racism and misogyny.
Fair play to Lawrence here, was very respectful & professional. Tackled this better than I thought it'd go.
He is full of it!!! A leopard never changes its spots!
@@matrix35oh shush, your a snowflake
@@matrix35mira aquí hijo de tu
@@matrix35 Spot on mate.
People bashed Laurence when he was on the show, but Brian needed a foil. They’re just about as polar opposite as two guys can be while sharing interests, and that was the beauty of it.
Spot on. I stopped watching after Lawrence left. Just wasn’t the same anymore
i Hated Mckenna with a passion but he was good TV. Its always great to have a hateable character on the show
Was sat scrolling on CZcams looking for something during my lunch hour. Goldbridge comes in clutch👏🏻
Same here!
exactly the same
and thats why people are trapped in 9-5s
I had to look twice. Thought it was a joke. Haven't watched it yet, but I know it's going to be good 🎉
Lawrence is a fucking snake a throwaway comment ur friend makes in 2023 and u abandon him 🤣🤣🤣
Laurence was 50% (minimum) of TG’s channel in my mind. The reason it worked so well is because they really bounced off each other, similar senses of humour but with different delivery. Brian the straight-talker and Laurence with the sharp wit, the comedic value was excellent.
I’m not massively interested in watching either on their own tbh, but if they ever worked together again id be all over it
Same well put
gervais and merchant of the youtube scene...
To me and a lot of others it was 'oh, geordie has hired a middle-class tw@ to sit with him, I guess he's made it now'
Not far off mate
For a lot of the rest of us he was the annoying middle-class w⚓ you have to endure on basically any podcast now.
This is what loz has needed for years, a mark that will undercut and talk over him respectfully to reign him in, this podcast is the most likeable hes been in years and years. Credit to loz for coming on and being as open but credit to mark for being blunt when needed, direct when needed, but at the same time, he clearly made loz comfortable
Loz needs an undercut.
I appreciate that Loz was being EXTREMELY careful to make it clear that blame was shared, and that there were no real true bad guys in the situation, just a bad circumstance handled badly at a bad time by people who mostly meant well. I really think TG or one of his loyal fans would have to try VERY hard to find slight or offense in that discussion.
Why do you appreciate it, were you looking to blame someone.
@@o2xb This seems like a question a stupid person asks.
@@dcnole This seems like an answer a stupid person would give!
@@o2xb Take the L bro
@@bannedvideos3399 As long as I'm on the right path, I'll always be winning!
WOW GOLDBRIDGE THE INTERVIEW WE HAVE ALL WANTED... DELIVERED BY THE GOAT
Goat 😭😭😭😭get a room
@@travel_fan2223 yet here you are 😢😢😢
@@travel_fan2223 keep crying
@@nananou1687cry more
@@EthanCAviation came up on my CZcams actually I never searched for it . Enjoy listening to a guy who insults you if you dare have a different opinion
one thing I’ve learnt from this video is Laurence definitely still has something to offer in this space, he’s so good at having conversations on screen
his personal channels have really good content, maybe not the largest viewership but just good stuff
Totally agree, you can see by the way he bounces questions back at Mark he’s a very natural interviewer
He’s in charge of the Filly & Chunkz show which brings in huge numbers of
@@lukepothecary5486 i was so shocked when i found that out
@@lukepothecary5486 had no idea, glad he's got something
I'm glad I finally get to hear Mark interview himself on why the kick off ended
hehehe.... maybe he could get hugh wizzy on as fifty percent of the comments are about him. so get him on to ask what happened and if he is coming back and lets talk some more about ME.
My first time watching mark and it’s nice to see that he hasn’t changed
If you took a shot every time they said “the space”, you’d be dead.
I can't unhear it now
Hugh leaving is what I think sparked the change in The Kick Off, the debates got worse, the animosity became borderline cringeworthy and some of the knowledge on display (Marvin, Buvey, Bhavss.) was honestly abhorrent.
Buvey is the worst character in the football media space, contrarian for no reason and never knows when to talk seriously and stop trolling. Just massively frustrating to watch
Buvey is something else,whoever still watches him must be deluded.
He actually one of the biggest losers from the fallout as on his own he is pure boredom
@@CheeseyMilkshakes nah buvey actually has unbias takes when you learn how to spot when he's being a wind up merchant.
Fine but he loses most of us before we get to the point of discerning his bullshit@@erosion271
@@erosion271 the ball knowledge is shocking sometimes even when hes serious thats undeniable
This was a genuinely fascinating conversation. More of this long-form, serious Goldbridge please 🙏
Rule 101 of interviewing Mark: allow your guest to speak.
You’ve got a brilliant thing here but don’t let your ego ruin it.
Piers morgan is mark idol😂😂
It's a podcast not an interview
@@Batmanthe3rd either way, Laurence is the guest on Mark’s “podcast” so it still applies.
@@Batmanthe3rdah so he should interrupt him then should he
@@unclebensrice4702 that's not the point I was making WAS IT?
Huge props to Loz for this, the context around the explanation and actually just "how do you react in a moment" stands true not just to live content, but to life in general and people having opinions based on time for consideration isn't appreciated enough.
It all started when Hugh wizzy left.
Hugh was so good on there
agreed, TG and Wizzy were the main people
Yeah I noted that too. Didn’t he say something nasty towards Rory or Burvey? on one of the shows?
Why did hugh wizzy leave, was it after the bad comment that true geordie made or did he leave before because he didnt like the ‘snakes’ in the group?
The fraud father left because of a pay dispute. He wanted more and they didn't agree. It wasn't a bad split.
True Geordie content hasn't been the same without Loz, TG now is all about conspiracy videos without any push back or a devil's advocate POV. Loz was the intellect or voice of reason in the duo.
I know what you mean but Brian's by no means stupid either. He just looks a bit stupid. The Joe Rogan effect. Definitely comfortably above average intelligence.
Shame Laurence is such an unpleasant person
@@Radiohead_chelshe is not
He's above average in iq, he's hardly a genius though. They're likely on a similar level in fact, just Lawrence likes to ridicule people a bit more. He's simply more conniving than the others were. That is not a sign of high intelligence. That is a sign of a disturbed mindset towards other people.
@@Pebble_Collector tbf joe rogan is also quite stupid
I really like Laurence, met him once outside Anfield and took a selfie on a Playstation Vita. Genuinely comes off as a really nice person on and off camera and I can only wish him all the success.
On a PS vita, love that mate 😂 how come it was on a vita and not your phone?
@@RidPhanto Shockingly I didn't have a phone at the time. 🤣
@@jingerjosh22 ahaha gotta make do I guess 😂
Selfie on a PS vita hahaha you broke scouser
what an insecure little thing you are ahahah @@JT-tt5il
It's great for Goldbridge to welcome on a guest and talk at them relentlessly.
"I went on SKY for a show and..."
"Oh I wouldn't do that show anymore"
Tedious. Yes mate you're top dog, we all know that..
Best bit of content on CZcams for a very long time .. the interview we all wanted ..
It great cus they didn’t dance around the big questions they deep dived in to it
Really enjoyed listening to this conversation and also to get proper actual insight into why the lads left the kick off. Also listening to loz is great because you can always learn something from him. Great stuff mark and great interview.
We need more of this content mark. It’s great to hear both your insights to the YouTubing world. Respect to loz for all his honesty too. Great video
Miss hughwizzy. The chemistry between he and Rory really made it special for me.
Hughwizzy is a gem
The way he jabbed at Rory was perfect
When Hugh and Rory were the regulars that was the show at it's peak, in fact probably the peak of all football youtube at that point honestly.
I think Hugh leaving was the beginning of the downfall tbh. People tuned in for Hugh and other regulars and like Loz admitted I think not treating them with enough respect like a contract was the first mistake.
@@wana.me003 cringe
It is lovely to see something so sensitive handled with respect, clear thought and highlighting that these challenges all have an emotional impact can it can be difficult to unwind these issues.
Thanks Mark and Laurence. Really enjoyed listening to your chat. I discovered the original iteration of the kick-off relatively late in the piece so was disappointed when it ended. Thanks for shedding some light on it Laurence and the care you show in telling your story.
A really engaging chat. Well done both of you. Super natural and kept my interest throughout. Now waiting to see how you both evolve the space and what’s born off the back of this interview
The first 100ish True Geordie podcast was peak CZcams
Nah!! The first 150sh defo
You know what didn’t like loz on the kick off but here he comes across a real genuine person and I hope him and his family go onto great things I wish him the best
everyone on the kick off seemed particularly annoying at some point i think😂
Soz, he's always seemed fake to me and no difference here. It's probably why he got hammered so much as well - people perceived, rightly or wrongly, that he thinks very hard about what he says and does, so had a hard time believing he didn't just calculate that moving quickly on was (in his mind) the best chance of keeping everything from blowing up. Not that I think a throwaway wayward comment deserved a cancellation, it's not as if Brian was ever held up as some role model or paragon of normality. If a Blue Peter presenter can do lines off a turtle and still find work, a bit of Christian forgiveness towards TG wouldn't go amiss
I feel the same way to this. I really enjoy his solo videos. I like the way they're shot and the way he delivers the information... it's very unique and original within the football CZcams space. But I hated the way he argued on the KickOff. Was very hypocritical at times. Enjoy this version of Loz for sure though.
@@no1raniuk854 exactly came across arrogantly when debating topics
Can’t stand him tbh. He thinks he knows everything 😂
Wow this is crazy, I'm not into sports and never watched the Kick Off but used to really like watching Brian and Laurence on the True Geordie podcast and their vids together back in that era so it's really nice to see him pop up again! Looking forward to hearing what happened.
Interview hugh wizzy. Where is that dude btw his content was always class.
Have been asking this for awhile niw. I miss the Fraudfather
“Stayed to the end” gang where you at?
This channel will be a force in a year or two with content like this and cooking with goldbridge ! Refreshing content on a well thought out channel. fair play !
This is a fascinating interview between two great minds in the footballing content space. I’d love to see both Mark Goldbridge interview more guests, and also Laurence get back on the horse of creating content. Much love to you both❤️
Great discussion! One thing that really stood out to me was when Mark you talked about where football-related podcasts, videos and more are going. I agree with that and I'm tired of how many of the videos are something along the lines of "the most underrated 11" and I'm not personally interested in forced arguments created in the style of television, but real conversations between people without fake arguments and shouting
I’ve really missed how eloquent Laurence is and his insight with creativity and sense of humour. I really hope he’s doing well
Dude he puts videos up, check them out
Great Interview. Insightful. This is much needed content and format. Long form, old-school, in-depth conversation.
these two are just genuinely such high quality individuals
I don't think I've ever watched/listened to a podcast/interview before that was 90 minutes long and just flew by. That was incredible, and probably could have listened for another 90+minutes!
Bring Loz onto the podcast regularly. He’s a good guy.
He should be a regular on That's Football imo. He has the knowledge and is very funny. His banter was my favorite thing about The kick off
May be a good guy but needs a stronger backbone
@@vividratsculpordwarf, What do you mean?
The Underlap
Great conversation! Love the chemistry between you two! You should do more of these together! You both have similar values, and ideas about the future of the space, but different characters. And there's the MUFC vs LFC rivalry. Keep it coming!
Have been waiting a long time for this story to finally be brought to light. I loved the kick off and it was a real shame when it ended - appreciate the long form deeper conversational format
I've missed listening to Loz on a podcast. Just really appreciate the way he looks at things. The football space needs him and it's nice to see him making steps back into it.
Boring
Stop projecting. Do bettwr
space
he has a yt channel breaks down liverpool
@Mohilfc2 can't beat redmen tv.
The speed of Rory, Adam and Buvey setting up the Club could not have been done in two months, thats a lot of months of planning, including studios, setups, social media overlays, business plan etc. They were just looking for the right time and that moment was perfect, setting them on a trajectory.
I think there are a lot of admin people in the London podcast space who have created studios for hire, everything else is more or less what they had already done.
they literally just did eveything the kick off did and changes the name and ditched Brian and loz..i have no sympathy for them for waht they did to brian!
Think u need to check them facts, probably for the 1st time.
@@balooc2 Grow up they were carrying the Kickoff for a longtime for a fraction of the profit and Brian was eventually going to sink his own ship whether it was the islam joke or not so they got out before he brought them down with him
Top top podcast.
Been wanting to hear Loz's side to the Kick Off situation since it all happened and the conversation at the end about the state of the industry was actually reallly refreshing and insightful. Cheers Goldbridge 👏👏
This was really refreshing and honest, credit to you both. I think it's always been clear that Loz is an intelligent and thoughtful creator and director, especially shown in his Hendo doc. I hope more opportunities come his way where he's able to show off his talents. And hope to see more insightful interviews like this from you Mark. Don't let those around you in the industry dampen your ambitions because I believe you can achieve greater things than you already are
This was brilliant. Glad to see Loz rebuilding. You both work really well together. Fingers crossed there is a future where you both work together!
I listened to this video completely and I have seen Mark Goldbridge in a whole new light. His business mindset is why he is able to have such huge channels.
The comments he made about certain “fan channels” going onto Sky etc. to be used for clips is very true.
He forgot to mention certain fan channels who changed their ways so they can appease to these bigger corporations instead of being themselves. So sad.
Great chat, really enjoyed the whole thing. I have to confess I've not always been a big fan of either guys but both come acros really well, thoughtful and clearly great content creators.
Fantastic podcast this one! So honest and open, it’s so so refreshing watching this, I really hope to see more of these types of podcasts in future
What I took from this is Mark has been in this space for a long time and this really excites him.
He invented the space, the space was nothing without him
don't forget though.. that if he had been involved in the kick off.. that it would have done really really well.. not just really well.. really really well.. like unbeatable...
I think Loz and Stephen tries were the first sort of people to bring this ‘office’ style quick quips comedy into this CZcams space which I’ve always enjoyed so thank you for that!
The first podcast episode I have watched all the way through for a while. Interesting stuff. Well done Mark!
Best podcast I’ve listened to in years, Laurence is a fantastic addition to any form of media in the footballing landscape.
That was quite possibly one of the best interviews/discussions I have ever had the pleasure of watching
Gave me so much insight into something I cared about but didn’t know enough about.
Much respect for the pair of you
Brilliant long form content Mark, and big up loz, he's a good man
Well done to you both in creating the best interview I’ve watched in a long time 👏🏽
Speaking from someone who doesn't watch, partake or even enjoy Football (and related content) I absolutely loved this pod and watched the whole thing intently. I love Laurence and was genuinely surprised to see his locks
The dream is Lawrence and Brian reunited podcast. Miss them two together. Watching Lawrence talking and his humour/personality without Brian next to him laughing or bouncing off him. Hope one of them makes the move to repair or start the process. Love them both.
Laurence is a solid, fair minded bloke. His Liverpool stuff is great. Really like the guy.
Respect mate, this was really well done by both of you. Cheers.
That was brilliant. Very insightful and interesting. Mark Goldbridge was great asking the questions and pushing for the answers we all want to know. Laurence is great and an inspiration for me, I appreciated how he answered with honesty and integrity whilst being respectful. Super show.
Laurence used to get alot of stick, but I think he comes across really well, and speaks about the whole situation so well
You would after that level of feedback
@@harryhairo7272too right. The man was humbled, and rightly so.
Mark has an ego the size of the moon
Wow. Thank you both! Stayed till the end.
Very insightful conversation, really enjoyed it 👏 would like to see some more content with you both
Bloody hell. Goldbridge basically interviewed himself. Never seen someone answer their own questions as much in an interview.
Lawrence if you're reading this, please do an interview with someone else. I actually wouldn't mind knowing what happened.
They’re talking about the kick off like it was some sort of genius ground breaking revolutionary podcast.
It was the best "in that space" .... period.
In your opinion
@@nikpanayi2415 ... verifiable fact. Numbers. Elementary dear Watson.
@@soundlysouth2962 for future reference, putting ‘period’ after an opinion doesn’t make your point more relevant, unless you’re speaking to a child or woman that you’re trying to control.
@@soundlysouth2962 actually, ignore that last comment, I think I could come back with something better
need these two to link up again, this was actually a very interesting and insightful conversation
One of the best pieces of content I’ve watched in years
Goldbridge comes off so narcissistic in this 😂
Let’s wait to see how long this comment lasts before he deletes it like the previous comment about him acting like he created CZcams because it hurt his ego 😅
Be careful iv been banned from the united stand you can’t disagree with him or your blocked 😂
@@sayrox7422 i notice that comment vanishing lol
And trust me I know, cuz I study the CZcams space a lot.. you irrelevant peasants
My brother in Christ. Stop saying "the space"
It’s like listening to comedians speaking about “the craft” so cringe
For real 😂 @@jamesryan73
Just Like when they call videos “content”
Watched till the end... loved the interview. and really nice to see loz again! I miss his wit.
Brilliant episode! Watched/listened to all of it. Very insightful about the industry (more so than a bunch of business podcasts). Listened to all of it and came out with insights that I think could genuinely help me in the work I do. Big ups to Mark and Laurence!
I can't lie it still bothers me how things panned out. The podcast worked because they were all genuine friends and to see all of them separated over a mistake. Yes, a messed up mistake, but still. It's just a sad turn of events. The kickoff isn't the same and the Club isn't really that special.
Lawrence was my favorite and to see him affected the most is quite tragic
The club is ironically missing that anchor which was Brian and Loz
@@jswats92 Indeed!
Jeez, goldbridge loves himself, the interview is about lawerence, let him talk. Seems more of a chance to plug himself because this video is sure to blow up
He's knows the 'space'. Wants to get £50k per ad
Really insightful listen. I started watching the kickoff during lock down when I couldn't have that football interaction and debate with my mates. As I am now 36, with kids, partner etc don't go out as much, enjoy the kick off type content as it makes you feel apart of a conversation. Good luck to laurence in what comes next, seems like a really good bloke.
What a great interview and conversation. That was really good.
The problem with Laurence is that he's so afraid of offending anyone that he's no longer genuine.
Hahah, I have said plenty of stuff that might upset people. I also disagree with needlessly upsetting people who have a hard time already.
The more ive watched this interview is the more i wish Mark and Loz started mark goldbridge saves football together 😂😂 bro they just bounce off each other
This was a really good interview not just about the kick off but also in the CZcams football streaming space in general would be good to see more like this with others talking about their experiences
What a great pod, love Loz and was really insightful to hear about how everything happened. Hope you both can do some more content together in the future!!
Humble urself mark
Mark has a very high opinion of himself
This is truly brilliant, I'd love this to be a more regular thing from you Mark, maybe with some other guests around the space.
This was a great discussion. Well done on some awesome content. Would love more similar type of long format discussions.
Watching this video makes me realise Goldbridge exists in a parallel universe to me where he's more than a goon crying in front of a green screen. I honestly have never taken him seriously and never given him more than a second thought. Hearing him and Loz prattle on about how they've impacted the media space... it just boggles my mind.
I honestly think Laurence could slot into any of the YT football podcasts and immediately make them better.
Agreed, I think he does editing or something for Chunks and Filly now so I’m sure he’s doing alright
He produces their podcast, doesn't have a camera on him but does talk at times during the podcasts.@@crookieee
Honestly can't stand him at all. The club is just lads talking about football. Lawrence is just a wet wipe
@@sirdrchefwangiii1841 this comment makes no sense
@sirdrchefwangiii1841 we found the person that is too stupid to understand proper football analysis
great conversation, loz was really respectful & professional. would love for him to start getting more content out
I've missed Lawrence and the old TG channel, thanks for delivering a great interview Mark, brilliant interview
Love it. Goldbridge asking the tough questions and I was actually trying to find a video last night of Loz explaining what happened and so glad goldbridge has done this!
Mark Goldbridge is so far up his own arse 😂😂
I mean he used to be a policeman, so...
Nice to see mark doing content not just for 13 year olds.
Very rare I sit and watch a full podcast these days, but I did with this. Nice to finally get some closure on what happened with guys I’d been watching for years. Hopefully there’s a day they all get back together and put this behind them 💪
Tbh, one of the best discussion from two of the best people in this format. Would love to see this lineup on a watch along. A United fanatic and a Liverpool fanatic, what can be better?
Yes and neither from Manchester and Liverpool. Pathetic.
That doesn’t matter, both teams are global and both teams have most of their revenues and supporters from abroad.
@@jesperbecker6412 to you it doesnt but to anyone in England it matters a lot
@@RT-zk7yrit matters a lot if the hosts of a podcast or CZcams show is from Manchester or Liverpool if they are fans of the respective clubs? Are you joking?
@@jesperbecker6412 to people in England yes. To people like you from around the world probs not.
The day the game went global in this country was the day it went downhill
I honestly cannot believe how much crap Geordie got for what is quite a tame joke, especially one in the moment. That's far tamer than anything that's been on South Park. People need to lighten tf up. This is why the UK doesn't have a Bill Burr, milquetoast neutered humour, hand wringing and insane OTT outrage over basically nothing.
Who was keeping count of how many times they said 'space'?
It’s one of those words and phrases that all CZcamsrs are using. Space, platform, “in the franchise” in the case of video game reviewers…
Does get annoying. 😅
Another crap buzz word like 'content' from CZcamsrs. Pretending to be more professional than they actually are.
@@megatronsfury8048what should they call it?
@@christian-joelorekogbe2068 I have decades worth of games magazines where the word content is never mentioned once. It's a lazy, crap word all awful CZcamsrs lean on. If they had a command of the English language they could use multiple words instead of Space 150 times
@@megatronsfury8048 I mean, in general when people speak the use the easiest words to get their point across, especially to a broad audience. Saying many different words to describe one thing may be confusing.
I've always wanted to hear Laurence's take on the kick off situation. Appreciate him speaking so openly and honestly.
Never heard the word space so much in my life