Creating A MONSTER! The Story of Football YouTube

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • Mark Goldbridge and Laurence McKenna discuss the story of football youtube and fan channels and whether they are a good or bad thing?
    0:00 Introduction
    02:02 Why Mark Goldbridge unhappy as a creator
    14:05 AFTV and the start of Football CZcams
    23:05 How The United Stand started
    30:40 The Start of the Kick Off
    35:00 Fan Channels Get Greedy
    41:18 Secret Recipe to football content success
    48:55 Why people leave fan channels
    58:15 Advice to Football Content Creators
    01:05:51 Mainstream vs Fan Content
    01:10:58 The Future of Football CZcams and Fan Channels
    01:14:35 United Stand Up For Sale
    01:19:26 Are Fan Channels Toxic
    01:25:10 The Overlap defeats Fan Content
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Komentáře • 453

  • @markgoldbridge
    @markgoldbridge  Před 2 měsíci +86

    0:00 Introduction
    02:02 Why Mark Goldbridge unhappy as a creator
    14:05 AFTV and the start of Football CZcams
    23:05 How The United Stand started
    30:40 The Start of the Kick Off
    35:00 Fan Channels Get Greedy
    41:18 Secret Recipe to football content success
    48:55 Why people leave fan channels
    58:15 Advice to Football Content Creators
    01:05:51 Mainstream vs Fan Content
    01:10:58 The Future of Football CZcams and Fan Channels
    01:14:35 United Stand Up For Sale
    01:19:26 Are Fan Channels Toxic
    01:25:10 The Overlap defeats Fan Content

  • @laurencemckenna
    @laurencemckenna Před 2 měsíci +698

    Thanks for having me on! Always enjoy our chats!

    • @kanegardner6346
      @kanegardner6346 Před 2 měsíci +70

      You and Mark are a great pairing. Would love to see you two collab more!

    • @markgoldbridge
      @markgoldbridge  Před 2 měsíci +79

      Any time!

    • @Baggsfc
      @Baggsfc Před 2 měsíci +2

      You the man mate. Really enjoy your knowledge and insight 👊🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @andyhale3165
      @andyhale3165 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I think you come across a lot better with Mark as a foil than you did with Brian. Really enjoyed your insight

    • @thefruitbat111
      @thefruitbat111 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Really enjoyed listening to both of you, hope you do much more together, thoughtful and a great balance imo.

  • @connor5773
    @connor5773 Před 2 měsíci +817

    You and Loz work well together. Should really think about doing a full time podcast together

    • @mohammedkadva4210
      @mohammedkadva4210 Před 2 měsíci +30

      Said this on the first time loz was on this channel, they’re a great duo 👍

    • @samuel-ux4gy
      @samuel-ux4gy Před 2 měsíci +10

      Would love this

    • @deec.9575
      @deec.9575 Před 2 měsíci +5

      +1. They gel well and compliment each other

    • @SWJ_
      @SWJ_ Před 2 měsíci +1

      💯🙏

    • @barneychislett2818
      @barneychislett2818 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Agree actually, think they are a good blend. Mark is super level headed, think it brings the best of loz.

  • @rhyscrownshaw3523
    @rhyscrownshaw3523 Před 2 měsíci +126

    Mark and Loz make such a good duo. This NEEDS to be a regular show

  • @ChorltonOutlaw
    @ChorltonOutlaw Před 2 měsíci +314

    Loz is a good guy, glad he's on this channel consistently

  • @Grums2023
    @Grums2023 Před 2 měsíci +58

    You two should do this as a regular podcast. The Underlap.

  • @TheFudbalKlub
    @TheFudbalKlub Před 2 měsíci +170

    This is what I've been looking for. Discussions on the current landscape and trends of football on this platform.

    • @markgoldbridge
      @markgoldbridge  Před 2 měsíci +60

      Enjoy and let us know other areas you'd like us to discuss

    • @TheFudbalKlub
      @TheFudbalKlub Před 2 měsíci +6

      Will do ​@@markgoldbridge. Been talking about online football CZcams myself, so keen to hear this.

  • @llama118118
    @llama118118 Před 2 měsíci +49

    These pods with Loz are actually really good content, no waffle or hyperbole. Just a good conversation with no tier lists or combined 11's!

  • @AJ-dl2by
    @AJ-dl2by Před 2 měsíci +220

    This should be a regular pod! It’s great !!

  • @karannsyt
    @karannsyt Před 2 měsíci +51

    I'm so glad to see Laurence back podcasting, I hope this becomes a more regular thing

  • @danielstokes7745
    @danielstokes7745 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Just want to say please make this a thing the two of you. Hearing your experiences and applying your thoughts to my own life right now, being made redundant has really helped my thought process of not taking the resentful feelings and realising you take the experience and turn it into a strength. Very relatable content that is easily transferable to your own domain. Keep up the great work. Loz it’s nice to see you again and looking forward to seeing more of you on here and anywhere else you work.

  • @archiewall124
    @archiewall124 Před 2 měsíci +78

    Can’t talk about Football CZcams without talking about Spencer.
    From right at the beginning with COPA90 up to the most recent sidemen charity match, he’s been ever-present. The innovation of the Wembley Cup (which inspired the sidemen charity match itself) and Hashtag Utd who are still climbing the pyramid and have former EFL footballers playing for them. He’s certainly a pioneer in this space.

    • @markgoldbridge
      @markgoldbridge  Před 2 měsíci +54

      Very good point. But wouldn't also associate him with the perceived negative side of Fan Channel content

    • @pyro7598
      @pyro7598 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I like Spencer, but his club name is unprofessional.

    • @fightfan9739
      @fightfan9739 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pyro7598what’s his club team name?? Maybe I’ll follow

    • @pyro7598
      @pyro7598 Před 2 měsíci

      @fightfan9739 Hashtag United. In terms Ishmian.

    • @archiewall124
      @archiewall124 Před 2 měsíci

      @@pyro7598his club name is perfect for the brand. And if they get to a certain level they’ll probably change it anyway. You can’t hate it, it works.

  • @Neondognz
    @Neondognz Před 2 měsíci +10

    Excellent adult conversation, love the fact that there's no stupid screaming and deafening music overlays. Just two real football fans having an interesting mutually respectful conversation.
    Really enjoyed the longer format too.

  • @PhantomOverlordX2
    @PhantomOverlordX2 Před 2 měsíci +37

    Mark has a great point at like 01:09:00 One day could be the worst day for you, but tomorrow can be a great day. It's a new day.

  • @ASideChannel
    @ASideChannel Před 2 měsíci +43

    It’s nice to see a open free flowing Podcast. I think Loz is a great guest and a really great host. He knows the right questions to ask, when to expand on points. I loved the true Geordie podcast but I always felt Loz was constantly spoken over or not able to host a podcast to the best of his abilities like he is here

    • @fightfan9739
      @fightfan9739 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That roid Goerdie is a roid head

  • @samjmackenzie
    @samjmackenzie Před 2 měsíci +2

    so much love and admiration for you both. Mark, seeing what you have to deal with, I commend you for dealing with it and continuing to be the best in the space. All of us would understand if you felt the need to finally stop. The vocal minority are the ones making all the negative noise, I hope you grasp how many of us love what you do and are beyond grateful. You've had a profound impact on my life and your content has gotten me through both good and bad times. Thank you for everything you do mate ❤

  • @geez5091
    @geez5091 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this, really great healthy video that football youtube needs and hasnt had before/enough. I loved the point about having these channels helps validate and make you feel apart of a club rather than just watching them play on TV. I loved watching arsenal (wenger ball) when i was younger in 2010 plus (im 24) but when aftv came about it helped me feel more connected to the club and feel like even tho i live in Wales, i can share opinions and thoughts about the club that are relatable in terms of fans and normal people rather than just an ex professional on the TV. I think growing with the fans is a really important aspect, as weird as it sounds because i dont know any of you/them you grow an attachment and seeing them as people outside of pure football chat is great content and adds to the validity of following them and their opinions as they dont just seem like the football robots in the tv punditry world. I'd also love to see people be more real and unbiased about football because a lot of talk is just clearly for content and trying to be entertaining (it just really unintelligent talk), like when people act dumb(biased) for these combined 11s for example, i think you two specifically are really good at that.

  • @chrismullan2125
    @chrismullan2125 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love this, half way through and it's great stuff from two of the best in the space.
    Glad to see Redmen TV get mentioned as pioneers, as a Liverpool fan I really enjoy their content. It's only gotten better with time, Paul & Chris have really found their stride as they have matured and it's noticeable in their content. 👏

  • @lewyevans757
    @lewyevans757 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Only just started it. But I know it’ll be good. You’re both grown ups which is getting increasingly rare in the space. Really enjoyed these two chats between you

  • @jakobi6224
    @jakobi6224 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Please keep coming back Loz. I really like Mark, Loz, and Will together. No one’s ego is getting in the way of another.

  • @jayfreeman5852
    @jayfreeman5852 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Smart chap this Loz, decent bloke, great chat. First time i've heard him, will have to go back and watch the first pod. Thanks

  • @runescapian1999
    @runescapian1999 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Incredible idea this I’m really enjoying the Goldbridge and Loz content, even if Loz isn’t permanent I’d really like to see more of this goldbridge podcast style content outside of just this week in football kind of thing. Keep up the great work mate!

  • @joecapps5543
    @joecapps5543 Před 2 měsíci +3

    If you two committed to making this format a permanent set up I think you’ll grow very quickly because of the pure authenticity of your discussions. Think this space is genuinely crying out for this as it’s refreshing.

  • @bibekbasa
    @bibekbasa Před 2 měsíci +4

    This is the kind of mature football content I am on CZcams for. Keep it up guys!!!

  • @LeosGoals
    @LeosGoals Před 2 měsíci +19

    Guys please do more of these I absolutely love the longer form and as someone that didn’t follow CZcams since the beginning this is such an interesting talk!
    Oh and I love Lawrence as a guest too 😄👏❤️

  • @DannyA0519
    @DannyA0519 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Great pod but Goldbridge can make this into a great partnership. The production value Loz can bring is at a very high standard. Especially if United become successful in next few years, the documentaries Loz could make would be ground breaking.

  • @Ladioz
    @Ladioz Před 2 měsíci +25

    This is box office for me. Real honest discussion.. in a pub... cheers Mark. Listening to it on my way home right now

  • @alexanderhare1921
    @alexanderhare1921 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I definitely jumped to conclusions after the kick off abruptly ended. Loz should create his own podcast

  • @hass1489
    @hass1489 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You two need to make this a more regular thing🙏🏽❤️ keep up the great work

  • @ninahardman9148
    @ninahardman9148 Před 2 měsíci

    My god, your level of communication, understanding and empathy is unmatched. Absolutely loved this conversation. Also, loved the bits. Excellent content creators. Glad you're doing what you do!

  • @ellleigh1216
    @ellleigh1216 Před měsícem

    So glad we're getting more content from you two. Intelligent, well-spoken individuals and have the ability to take in all perspectives. Would love this to be more of a thing and keep living us content.

  • @FootballWithBrownie
    @FootballWithBrownie Před 2 měsíci +2

    Well done guys 👏🏽 this show answered some of the questions I’ve had for a number of years surrounding Football CZcams.

  • @FrankieCini779
    @FrankieCini779 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Keep Loz around. Fantastic (mostly) un-biased analysis from you two. Great partnership

  • @oritemeit8815
    @oritemeit8815 Před 2 měsíci +19

    I think Loz seems to be a much more likeable person recently. I always liked him but felt sometimes he was maybe too arrogant (with JaackMate on the Christmas pod especially) but do feel he does have good banter and does think things in depth

    • @laurencemckenna
      @laurencemckenna Před 2 měsíci +22

      I was drunk on the JaackMate Christmas pod 😂 that's just me messing around and being on a podcast. I appreciate your comment but it certainly isn't the place to judge me 😂

    • @Sitarman345
      @Sitarman345 Před 2 měsíci

      He did a show with Rory and Buvey for years. I'd think I was a genius in the room with them too. He was always much better playing off Brian than any of the others. Those times Brian and Loz would duo cast games, ironically, were the show at its best.

  • @skateman4000
    @skateman4000 Před 2 měsíci +22

    Based on the comments, it’s really nice to see Loz’s redemption arc is complete 👍🏻

    • @steadycasemiro
      @steadycasemiro Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yeah. He deserves redemption. Came out the loser from True Geordie and glad to see him back

  • @Will-xk4te
    @Will-xk4te Před 2 měsíci +3

    Feel like this is just the start of something huge for the space. Would love to see them slowly bring all the big hitters together one by one. Proper football CZcams avengers storyline

  • @leegeldart9115
    @leegeldart9115 Před 2 měsíci

    This was fascinating. A real peek behind the curtain. A great watch, thanks guys

  • @getstuckin_
    @getstuckin_ Před 2 měsíci +2

    Loving these! You and Loz make a fantastic combination for a podcast.

  • @radhwangothic
    @radhwangothic Před 2 měsíci +6

    You and Loz should have your own podcast. Such a good chemistry between you too

  • @ryanmcgreevy2307
    @ryanmcgreevy2307 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’ve really enjoyed watching this, really interesting, well done keep it up

  • @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment
    @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment Před 2 měsíci +44

    Really works having two people who are individually capable of hosting, the conversation flows naturally but you both make sure to hit the taking points without derailing each other.

  • @kingmichael5446
    @kingmichael5446 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Goldbridge and Loz with their own podcast/watch along would take over everything. Love this dynamic so much.

  • @hunterpurner6624
    @hunterpurner6624 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You and Loz are a great watch,really loved this video

  • @Unbound-_-Rival
    @Unbound-_-Rival Před 2 měsíci

    Love you 2 together. You bounce off each other. Great content as always Mark, n great to see you back Loz. Missed you man! Onwards and upwards

  • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
    @TYLOTYLOTYLO Před 2 měsíci +5

    These two are KILLING IT 🔥

  • @Baggsfc
    @Baggsfc Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just love you 2 working together! The gruesome twosome! 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @richiejames2471
    @richiejames2471 Před 2 měsíci

    Really interesting lads, as a songwriter and musician, can relate a lot to the creative element, so really appreciated the content

  • @nickbaker3588
    @nickbaker3588 Před 2 měsíci

    I don’t even follow football or fan channels but used to watch the kick off and Mark every now and then. Please do more long form videos like this and the last one

  • @staffizy31
    @staffizy31 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great vidéo very interesting to see some aspects of CZcams we rarely think about as viewers

  • @jordanedgeley6601
    @jordanedgeley6601 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You two are great together btw, honest, smart, down to earth and not trying too hard

  • @vernonharvey5657
    @vernonharvey5657 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I want to do aviation youtube, I have the best cameras and all the ideas, but the technical side is truly a roadblock for someone with limited to zero computer skills & editing experience. I don't want to involve other people & this discussion has confirmed my reasons why not, yet that chasm from having so many ideas for content to actually presenting it in a watchable video as I can envisage it in my head seems insurmountable without free help. I'd love more discussion on the behind the scenes side of things, the journey on how you get from talking to a webcam in your bedroom to an editorial team with professional production quality

  • @laforceyboy
    @laforceyboy Před 2 měsíci +6

    Really like you two as a partnership for a podcast, good banter and knowledge

  • @alexedwards9152
    @alexedwards9152 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Love you two talking about stuff like this. I would love to see Spencer FC join one of these chats, for me he’s the most genuine guy in the space and speaks very well.

  • @xeithar9236
    @xeithar9236 Před 2 měsíci

    Loz and Mark go so well together… nice work lads 👍🏻

  • @smon4164
    @smon4164 Před 2 měsíci

    I think one of the best thing about fan made content in general is it's really self reflecting and 'breaks the fourth wall' so to speak, and is therefore more intellectually stimulating / less condescending to the audience.

  • @fifafanatics7125
    @fifafanatics7125 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Loz is fantastic. A great duo. Mark is a smart guy. He could really create something great with Loz here.

  • @GuyHasler
    @GuyHasler Před 2 měsíci +1

    Really really enjoyed this, & Loz. Hope you do stuff together more.

  • @prvoloptaski
    @prvoloptaski Před 2 měsíci

    Really love this stuff, Mark. The two of you work well off each other

  • @sinatafazzoli4045
    @sinatafazzoli4045 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I really like this video. A proper conversation. Well done lads.👍

  • @juiceboxleal6254
    @juiceboxleal6254 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love this duo. Feel like you counter each other well. I like mark and loz on their own but sometimes loz goes off and over analyzes every bit and sometimes mark is a bit simple or predictable. So for those 2 dynamics to meet in the middle is cool. Keep it up

  • @daniellamont5861
    @daniellamont5861 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank god Loz is back love this

  • @danielkeane2571
    @danielkeane2571 Před 2 měsíci

    Great to see another video together. I think this pairing offers something that isn't represented in the current landscape for listeners. Make this a regular thing!

  • @DYoon007
    @DYoon007 Před 2 měsíci

    This was very refreshing and informative. Hopefully, we will see this more soon.

  • @JAM310591
    @JAM310591 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You two are a really great duo. Hopefully the start of something!🤞🏼

  • @DannyA0519
    @DannyA0519 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Glad to see Loz back

  • @steadycasemiro
    @steadycasemiro Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love longer form podcasts and we need a Mark and Loz full time podcast

  • @WizardOVOz
    @WizardOVOz Před 2 měsíci +13

    I watch you both from Australia on CZcams every day. Makes it accessible to a worldwide audience.

  • @DropshipAus
    @DropshipAus Před 2 měsíci +1

    ah yes lads, the perfect content to watch while having a hot cuppa. This needs to be a weekly thing! Could definitely pass the Overlap's numbers

  • @marn854
    @marn854 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Would love to see Mark and Adam Mckola have a chat. Doubt they would but it would be such an interesting conversation.

  • @ricktickb00m
    @ricktickb00m Před 2 měsíci +5

    Do a regular podcast with Loz, great chemistry with Mark

  • @matthewheng7610
    @matthewheng7610 Před 2 měsíci +1

    MG and Loz has nice chemistry working together.. looking forward to more 😊

  • @davethepitt
    @davethepitt Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was an informative and entertaining chat both. Thank you.

  • @lau3503
    @lau3503 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You need to team up for this regularly. Two people who gel brilliantly together who I would be never put together before 😂❤

  • @Sully-xd6yx
    @Sully-xd6yx Před 2 měsíci

    Have to be real opportunaties and a platform are the numbers, the humility is what i rate you for mark. Som3 people have grievances that have no justufication and ego is massive

  • @Marcomanexists
    @Marcomanexists Před 2 měsíci

    I like hearing you two together. Two sensible guys who seem down to earth.

  • @ryanwhittaker4016
    @ryanwhittaker4016 Před 2 měsíci

    Please make this combo a regular podcast. Chemistry between you two is great

  • @FootballDrawn
    @FootballDrawn Před 2 měsíci +22

    I'm a simple man...I see Laurence McKenna and Goldbridge, and I'm lured in easily

    • @moumenrezaei1330
      @moumenrezaei1330 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Man, what an underrated channel. Love your stuff dude. Hope you make it big on youtube.

    • @FootballDrawn
      @FootballDrawn Před 2 měsíci

      @@moumenrezaei1330 thank you sooooo much, my friend. That really means alot ❤❤❤

  • @Alfigordon
    @Alfigordon Před 2 měsíci +2

    1:02:26 such wisdom for life here from Mark. Completely misunderstood and underrated

  • @Alks92
    @Alks92 Před 2 měsíci

    Keep doing these collabs with Liz mark! They are great. What a team

  • @criticalhitseeker
    @criticalhitseeker Před 2 měsíci +1

    Really enjoyed this insight, thanks both

  • @itshopey123
    @itshopey123 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Cracking video lads! Very insightful!

  • @Airyed
    @Airyed Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ricky's fan cams were the reason I love watching United Stand

  • @bbxtc8
    @bbxtc8 Před 2 měsíci +2

    really enjoying these

  • @emmaginger7160
    @emmaginger7160 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is such an interesting discussion. I love Marks content, I think he is very insightful.

  • @daniellavin2819
    @daniellavin2819 Před 2 měsíci

    This should just be a weekly podcast. It’s so good. So refreshing for football CZcams

  • @bigjonno
    @bigjonno Před 2 měsíci

    Loved this one Mark - great content

  • @TruRedCRIME
    @TruRedCRIME Před 2 měsíci

    As a creator myself who started as a football creator, I'm so glad I don't do football content as a career but so glad I get to watch others do it, be successful.
    Football YT is an art, goldbridge and AFTV are the pinnacle.

  • @James-cq3wi
    @James-cq3wi Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great pod mark and loz good listen getting me through work

  • @TheTruthTeller99
    @TheTruthTeller99 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hope you're all good mark & team. Heard about that bs happening your way. Its the toxicity of social media, brings out the scummiest parts of people
    Ynwa

  • @harrymccabe571
    @harrymccabe571 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I really rate the dynamic within the podcast when loz is on

  • @billmclaughlin7085
    @billmclaughlin7085 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. Very interesting. Hope you do more.

  • @garethjones3001
    @garethjones3001 Před 2 měsíci

    Thoroughly enjoyed it well done you 2, you should work together more

  • @tommilaurinkoski2363
    @tommilaurinkoski2363 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You and loz are amazing together. Maybe full time podcast? Amazing podcast!

  • @devonhope2165
    @devonhope2165 Před 2 měsíci

    Shout to loz good to see u back on the tube even though u a liverpoo fan

  • @stevedavis2050
    @stevedavis2050 Před 2 měsíci

    There is no doubt that ‘ fan content’ engages people and massively increases their interest and connection with their club in an era where it is potentially harder and more expensive to support a team - thoroughly enjoyed this discussion 😊

  • @wgcHERTS
    @wgcHERTS Před 2 měsíci +2

    I like this content, i actually think mark brings the best out of loz tbh

  • @TheLastAngryMan01
    @TheLastAngryMan01 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sadly that’s the way the working world is. I’ve worked in a few different industries and have regrettably learned that it’s not the people who quietly work hard and help their colleagues that get ahead; it’s often times the self-promoters, the credit grabbers, the schemers, the flatterers and the networkers who get the plum jobs. Not to mention that backstabbing and politics occurs irrespective of where one works.
    Probably the answer is to be your own boss if you can be.

  • @hayzzeh1380
    @hayzzeh1380 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love seeing Lawrence back

  • @UnitedVlogs
    @UnitedVlogs Před 2 měsíci +1

    This should be a weekly Podcast 🔥 👏

  • @marhalim
    @marhalim Před 2 měsíci +2

    Loz and Goldbridge: this weekend watch along FA cup. Let's go!!!!