How To Install Bathroom Grab Bars
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2014
- This video shows how to install grab bars in a tub or shower. If you or someone you know is disabled or just getting older and needs a little help getting in and out of a tub or shower, grab bars can really make a difference. Sometimes called "handicap grab bars" or "ADA grab Bars", they are pretty easy to install and it only takes a little while to do the job.
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I'm a 71 year old gal and I put up 2 by your method. Mine were really hard to drill because when the tile was installed 30 years ago the guy put chicken wire and thick, thick concrete as a backer. He told me if we ever had a tornado to get in the bath tub and now I believe him. It was hard work but I'm glad I did it with your help.
Good video...
Some suggestions...
1) When drilling on the tiles -- don't drill on the grout line if possible!
2) before punching & drilling - place some painters' tape on the tile to increase friction for the punch and drill & reduce chance of cracking
3) If you have a rubber washer - place it on the drill near the shank - so if it drills in and bangs the tile it will have a cushion...
In a bathroom situation, the wall was (hopefully) treated to be waterproof... if you drill into the grout & tiles you may want to use silicone sealer where the screws are - just to help the waterproof wall...
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Good suggestions! Thanks- I wondered about banging the drill into the wall, so that rubber washer idea was helpful!
Hi, about no.1, why not to do drill on grout line ??
Sorry, but I need more information before installing Grab Bar for my mom, I want make sure for my Mothers safety...😊
nice advise
Very bueno.....👽👍
Great input! Thank you!🇺🇲🙏❤
Your tub has drywall above the tile. You could find a stud above you tile line and transfer that to attach directly into a stud
Adding a little silicone before installing the insert and a little in the hole of the insert before installing the screw, will help with any water that will seep in behind the end caps.
For water proofing couldn't you just silicone the covers to the wall?? I'm not sure whats easier/more resilient.
Thanks!
Brian just made the BEST common sense comment ever made on CZcams, “If you base any important decision in your life on a CZcams video it’s probably not the best course of action.”
Suggestion: put a piece of painter (or any) tape on the two cover plates to keep them from sliding along the bar. Tape them together and then a little on the bar will keep them in one place. They can scratch up the bar before it's installed. And they always just get in the way of the work.
A friend of mine had one these installed in his bathroom because of his elderly mother years ago. The handle was so old and rusty that he had to replace the entire tiled wall. He realize that water leaked into the handle covers, right through the screw mounts and right into the back of the wall. This caused damage to the wood frame behind the wall which were all damp when he torn down the bathroom wall. Obviously the slow leak into the wall through many bath showers.
This was very helpful and gives me confidence to put this up for my 78 year old mother!
I watched the video to see how to easily find a stud but was glad to see that the correct plastic anchors will hold over two hundred pounds. Thanks for taking time to video this.
Know the Code on Grab Bars! Code requirements for grab bars are part of the Int'l Code council’s ANSII-ICC A117.1 standard. Many contractors get it wrong, meaning the bath won’t pass inspection and exposes both contractor and owner liability. In showers, the tops of horizontal grab bars need to be 33-36 inches from the floor. In a transfer shower, bottom of vertical bar must be 3-6 inches above horizontal bar on that wall. Part of installing is to know the code on grab bar, would be wise to put link in description otherwise people will just assume it's only about installation and place them where they want and won't be placed for optimum safety.
Watched your video last night, installed two grab bars this morning for a friend, install was easy! Thank you!
About to do this at my home for when my parents come to visit. Reading through the comments, I see people think these are to catch the falling weight of an elderly or disabled person. Let me say, these are to help maintain balance. Any elderly person in need of a grab bar isn't going to have the strength to catch their falling weight. These are meant to maintain balance and prevent falls, not arrest falls. I'd venture to bet most able bodied people won't have the grip power to arrest their own falling weight under ideal circumstances. Mathematically, the total weight of someone falling turns out to be much more than people realize, and no senior citizen would be able to catch themselves anywhere near the bottom of a fall with a grab bar. That said, I will do my best to locate a wall stud... or two.
Also know CODE of where to place them, what size, and anything else for optimum safety. Int'l Code council’s ANSII-ICC A117.1 standard. Many contractors get it wrong, meaning the bath won’t pass inspection and exposes both contractor and owner liability. In showers, the tops of horizontal grab bars need to be 33-36 inches from the floor. In a transfer shower, bottom of vertical bar must be 3-6 inches above horizontal bar on that wall.
Agreed, even if you need to choose a grab bar length to fit the studs.
Extremely helpful thank you, my wife and I are first time home owners so easy to understand videos like this is nice to reference from! Cheers from San Diego!
Ty Jose anchors are not made for 3/8" of tile on a backerboard. They are for 1/2" drywall.
If you want to do this, use a set of butterfly anchors, and squeeze a Sh77 ton of silicone in there to waterproof.
Otherwise, in his application, you can easily find a stud since it's not tiled up to the ceiling.
Pro tip:
Many bathrooms are fabricated with shi77y studs and cripples everywhere, so be cautious as the stud might not be completely from the ceiling to floor. (Sadly, people do cheap stuff to attach wallboard.)
Even using electronic stud finder, I'm getting lots of false readings.
Great video, much appreciated! I agree with the comment below about using some silicon on a project like this. After all the effort we put into waterproofing the wall before the tile goes up, and grouting and sealing with great care, it seems wrong somehow to start drilling holes in the finished product, although there is no alternative when a grab bar is needed. I am about to do the same thing in my tiled shower, and I will apply silicon to the anchors when they go in, as well as to the screws and possibly also the inside rim of the cover flange.
I just used this same method to install a grab bar today. Worked out just fine. I bought a package of 10 anchors of the same brand used in the video, and I put 5 on each side. Then I tested it by grabbing it from different positions and it held my weight of 220 lbs without any problems.
I really had no idea but your video made it seem easy! Thanks! I feel confident going in to do the job.
Great video - thanks for wearing a mic and framing the shot so we can see and hear you without getting seasick! Lots of good comments here, too!
Fantastic help! This will be my first installation of a grab bar through tile. I appreciate your review of the necessary tools and actually showing the drilling through the tiles, which is the part I'm concerned about the most.
Dont do what this guy did. Hit studs or use toggle bolts. Plastic anchors are for hanging smoke detectors.
Thanks for the grab bar installation guide - very helpful!
Thank you for this video, clear and concise. As with any project adjustments may be need as he said at the beginning of the video, don't base your whole project on a CZcams video. Sir great job 👍
Perfect! Just installed the grab bars as you described. No problem! Thank you for this posting!
I'm glad it helped.
Nice to watch a tutorial at CZcams without music, for a change.
Thank you for doing it & explaining it so easily.
Good job sir! You did a great job giving pertinent information. Thanks for the video! BE SAFE, GOD BLESS!🇺🇲🙏❤
Straight forward, easy to understand. I would use a stud finder to see ifone end of the bar would be attached to a stud, and use molly billy bolts on new construction, i.e. house built in the 60's going forward, I give an A+++++ Frank Donovan
Thank you! That should work for me . Was worried about finding studs, In a wall used a stud finder it goes off every where.
Thank you so much for that clear and concise video. Your disclaimer is very funny, but a good reminder about learning everything from CZcams! Hahaha!
Very helpful. I put masking tape on the tile and it was much easier to start the hold.
What a surprise to find you here! Thanks!!
A clever way to get the centre to centre dimension. I usually look for the dim. on the fitting instructions but your way is quicker
Great instructional video. I wish ALL of CZcams's videos were this straight-forward.
Thanks a lot.
Unsafe install. Towel rack OK, grab bar no way.
I simply took a shiny new ceramic drill bit and put it in the center of my drill spot and just gave it a few twists and made a nice little notch. No slippage here! :)
Thanks for a chuckle with the 'Basing major life decisions on CZcams videos'. Great line man!
...or trusting "life decisions" on small plastic anchors. Never od it this way. Find a stud or at least a winged molly bolt. This is not safe.
He did a great job step by step. Great job on the presentation.
+Glenn Covaleski Thanks Glenn
Where to start? I put the first bar vertical just over the outer edge of the tub to help the person get in and out. I drill the holes with a tile and glass bit which is shaped like the playing card spade and vacuum the dust as I drill. The 2nd bar goes where it will do the most good for the user; sometimes horizontal and sometimes on an angle upward toward the shower head. I use Togglers that are like a fancy moly. I never drill into a tile joint because it increases the chance of cracking the tile. Put wax on the screws when installing and caulk around the top and sides of the flange but not the bottom to give any possible moisture a way out. Put caulk into each screw hole. I install 60 - 70 each year for a local organization.
Great job. Thanks for posting.
Glad you posted this. Thanks
Thank you for sharing this great tutorial!!
Very good demonstration.Thanks!
You are correct, I never use this type of wall anchor, the best I feel is a toggle bolt the size applicable to the item to be attached.
I'm doing this tomorrow so thank for the tips
Suggestion....AT 84 I have planned for the grab rails and have installed 5 in the shower plus the wall over the Jacuzzi plus the hallway between the master bath and the bedroom. When I try to get from the bathroom to the bed, the room is pitch black in spite of night lights in the room. A grab bar on the doorless entrance jamb really helps steady you until your eyes adjust. Saves hand prints on the entrance jamb too. Another big plus is a toilet “ELEVATOR”. A fiberglass 4 inch spacer that fits under the entire toilet. About $125 on internet plus another $100 for the plumber. Best money you will ever spend. I have set many toilets but at 84, it’s just too much lifting. Comes with a new rubber flange seal and mounting screws .......I also have a grab bar in the jamb alongside the toilet and one on the wall in front of the bidet.
Keep this in mind.......getting old is not for sissies.....the alternative sucks.
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great tutorial and lots of good pointers from readers....next week project.
You made it look easy. About ready to give it a try. I assume you don't have to hit studs... Thank you
for taking the time to show things you have learned. Good teacher.
Like he said, if you hit studs, your extra lucky. In that case, just use the screws as you don't need the anchor.
Hey thanks for making the video. That was informative.
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great video lot of helpful hint and tips thank you for the video. I laughed so hard when you said not to take advice from a CZcams video. keep up the good work.
He didn't say not to take advice he said you probably should make important life decisions based on something you watched on you tube.
Great video. Thanks for your help.
Great video.....very clear and helpful.
Really Helpful. Thanks so much.
The 18 inch bar installed on a slant is perfect for 16 inch studs.
Good Job, dude! I watch tons of DIY home-fixup videos, and yours is great. I was thinking if i can find the studs, I'm sunk! But you did it with heavy duty wall anchors!! Didn't know that would work with something like this where someone will be bearing their wieght on it to pull themselves up, or to balance. You are straight forward, to the point, no bs. Now I'm gonna intstall grab bars in my mother's bathroom right now. Thanks a million!!
Bee Gee A belated you're welcome.
Very useful explanation. Thank you so much. Great teacher!
R M Merced Thank you!
Informative video, thanks.
Thanks you for posting this, very helpfull
Great Job!!!! Nice and Easy!!!Thank you!!
Nice video , I like the scratchall.
Unless the bar was installed on the studs by chance otherwise it has a major flaw: the screw in the tiles cannot hold the weight. To me it is more like a nice looking decoration than a useful safety grab bar.
An accident looking for a place to happen. All major brands of grab bars suggest only installing into the studs or use special anchors which are designed for large loads.
Lousy anchor for a grab bar. As a fastener salesman for forty plus years, I would recommend Wellnuts, which are rubber and can handle a lot of vibration. Unfortunately they require a large hole, 1/2" for a number 10-24 machine screw if I recall. Since you have three holes to work with on each end, you might consider one per end for a more secure installation. Incidentally, a fastener's safety factor is one quarter of published pullout, so the hold you stated should be divided by four. Did you also consider what is holding those tiles to the wall? If you have studs, find them and use them if possible.
Job looks good. Many thanks.
Overall very helpful. Would suggest adding sealant to holes
Thanks for the help brother.
Great video! Very helpful! Thanks.
Bob Jensen You're welcome.
Thanks fella. I need to install one for my 90 year old mom! The house was built in 1964 and I don’t know if I’ll be able to locate both studs.
Perfect explanation of the job I want to do. Putting in a new tub and tile and wanted to install a handle bar too. Did you say the right size drill bit comes with the anchors? Is that a regular drill or a rachet drill?
Grab bars are nice but please for Seniors add a shower bench and a handheld shower wand for further safety.
Thanks for the video. It really help. Thumbs up!
+Raymond Kong Glad it helped
Very helpful, thanks!
Thank you for taking the time and effort to share. I am sure that grab bar is not going anywhere. However, I would try to avoid putting an anchor in the grout. Many people claim grout is softer than the surrounding material, which I agree, and has inconsistent strength. A hammer drill, rather than a regular drill might have been easier, but if that was a regular drill, which it sounded like, it looked like it did a very smooth job. I like the way you marked the hole pattern. Trying to hold the bar in position while marking all the holes is more prone to error. I would also blow the dust out of the holes before inserting the anchors. Nonetheless, I am sure your installation will work.
Nicholas Hoffenpiper Pretty good points. So far it's working fine. Thanks for watching,
Awesome video! Thnx.
Thanks for the video. Evidently I have porcelain tile in my shower as drilling the holes was exhausting. I purchased the same anchors kit as shown the included drill bit didn’t cut very well. So I switched to a carbide tile bit that I bought and it wasn’t much better, the tip shattered after a couple holes. Went back to the old bit and eventually finished but took ~15 min. per hole. I have another bar to install so will try with a diamond bit on the next one.
You used the wrong drill. A hammer drill is used for this application. ( concrete, tiles etc) The hammer drill will vibrate the bit. You needed a hammer drill. The difference is night and day. A glass tile bit works pretty good in a regular drill.
Best disclaimer ever. If you base anything important in your life on a youtube video... not the best course of action.
Nice video, I'm going to use snap toggles anchors .
very nice video am install one but with the stud some time its very hard to find this because the contractors don make this like the prints said, but was a god idea to put anchors, they really hold heavy weight?. thanks
thanks for the tips
I’m paralyzed wheelchair with a little handyman in me... paralyzed waist down... 2 things - duct tape will hold things in place while y’all mark holes, drill, etc.... Most importantly - to the installer PLEASE after install try it out! Put weight on it! In case in comes off the wall. Don’t let the ‘end user’ get hurt without you trying it first! (Yes! I’ve had bars & permanent shower benches fall off wall with me on it!)
Thank you!
Well done.
great job and you can use clear tile caulk in the screw holes and around the fixture and please give the size of the drill bits and screws even though they may be different for someone else. again thank you.
Good stuff!
From the Moen website:
Hello and thank you for your interest in Moen products. The Moen LR8716D3CH Securemount Designer Ultima 16-Inch Grab Bar, Chrome comes with wood screws for a mounting into a stud. For installation in a hollow wall, Moen SecureMount Anchor part SMA1000CH is sold separately.
If they wanted it mounted to dry wall they would provide the anchors. Studs only. Do your loved ones a favor.
Awesome advise following you tubers
Excellent...
Thanks!
Good Lord, with all of the great wall anchors available today, I would never use those cheap plastic "push-in" wall anchors to secure a grab bar. Most of the time they simply pull right out of the hole. With so many stronger ones available today, why take that chance when installing a grab bar for a loved one. Just my humble opinion.
Nice video, Yet, I am working on 2 tubs and 2 showers, all Fiberglass w/ no studs.
Will those "Triple Grip" anchors work for me at 175 lbs.?
For added strength, Use a product called wing-its they are rated for hundreds of pounds and designed for mounting grab bars through tile.
What about fiberglass w/ no studs?
Eric Schnidrig no. Fiberglass is cheap and will not support shear weight from pulling or tugging.
My team uses a special anchor that builds out a fastening structure from the underlying stud to the fiberglass surface, up to about 1 5/8" deep stud-to-surface. google "solid mount." not cheap, yet the only thing we've found that will work.
Thank You !
fine job!!!
Thanks, I got it now.
Nice video, I recognize you from the marlin 795.
Great video! But if the anchors (wall plugs) are flush with the surface wouldn't they crack the tile when they expand? I would probably want to sink them deeper into the hole.
Thank you sir
I have watched so many grab bar videos and most of them attempt to mount the grab bar on a stud or use some real fancy anchors. Do you think those plastic anchors are good enough for good support?
Thank you
thank you so much
Holy crap. Did not know you had a plumbing channel.
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Thank you!! :)
My Step-Father fell in the shower a couple of days ago. I've decided to put grab bars into their shower. Thanks for the video, it's going to help a lot. You make it seem easy.
As far as the others who say the strength doesn't multiply by fasteners, that may be true but my parents aren't going to hang like a monkey off of these bars. Screwing into studs is the best bet, but when that's not a possibility due to whatever reason, the bars will still help a person considerably since most uses are going to be to gain / regain balance; not recover from a full blown slip. If you slip on soap or something in the shower and you're going down fast, it is highly unlikely you're going to have the time or muscle memory to grab onto the bar. Even if you did grab onto the bar, can you hold up your entire weight with one hand?
Excellent points.
tattoo The government ADA guidelines do, in fact, specify that the bars are required to hold up a particular amount of weight when acted upon them. Although, I'm sure your bars are not regulated and checked by the government, the guidelines are helpful in giving you an idea of what types of weight loads it should be expected to withstand.
Make sure to check CODE so you put them in the right place, use the right size, and all that other good stuff!!
@@NorthernChev The guidelines are for optimum safety and should definitely be followed. Int'l Code council’s ANSII-ICC A117.1 standard. Many contractors get it wrong, meaning the bath won’t pass inspection and exposes both contractor and owner liability. In showers, the tops of horizontal grab bars need to be 33-36 inches from the floor. In a transfer shower, bottom of vertical bar must be 3-6 inches above horizontal bar on that wall.
Thanks good video. I have to install a grab bars for my ant. I going to try to find the studs in the wall first, but sometimes that does not work out. So the video you made with the ankers support was great. I am just going to have to fine the right kind thanks aging.
Mich Finn I'm glad it helped.
well-done video - it gave me more confidence to install one of these for my Mother-in-law. One suggestion is that you caution folks to not go crazy when tightening the screws with a cordless drill. Maybe those anchors don't strip, but I always do a final tightening by hand, because it is all too easy to strip a screw anchor using a power tool - don't ask me how I know that!