How to Install a Safety Grab Bar with the World's Strongest Fastener
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2017
- Leah demonstrates how to install a safety grab bar in a bathroom to make it easier for elderly people to move about, and to make it ADA friendly.
Shopping List for Tools and Materials Needed for This Project:
Glacier Bay 18-inch safety grab bar: amzn.to/2wFds40
Wingits fasteners: amzn.to/2xNytb6
Apache 200 drill bit: amzn.to/2w5FP7Q
Another option (newer product by wingits) is a wingits brand grab bar: amzn.to/2wIGOg7 and wingits fasteners designed to go with their grab bar: amzn.to/2j36hxI
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You have the best tutorials. My 86 year old father fell yesterday, and I am going over this evening to install some safety grab bars in his house. I was so relieved to find a tutorial by you. Thank you for the help.
Thanks for spreading the word on Wingits. I didn't know they were out there. As a suggestion for those people who may not have the finger strength to compress the wings for installation, you could use a worm gear hose clamp to compress the wings. Once compressed, you could push the wings into the hole. The hose clamp would be too big to go into the hole so the wings will slide out from inside the hose clamp as they went into the hole. Once the wings were inside the hole, you can unscrew the hose clamp to make it bigger and slide it over the face plate and proceed with the installation. Most people would probably not have to do this, but for a few it would be helpful especially if the installer has arthritis.
Leah-Great Video! I want to help with recommending the proper fastener for the shower grab bar you installed: the WingIts RESGBW35 fastener. This fastener is specifically made for shower grab bars. It is pre-assembled with 2 fasteners on each side and is weight rated at 600Lbs into sheetrock with tile and 300lbs into straight .625" sheetrock. This fastener also perfectly aligns your top and bottom holes so you will not see the plastic sticking out above the escutcheon. The fastener also includes 3M VHB waterproof tape which serves as a perfect template for drilling your holes as well as providing a permanent waterproof seal- eliminating the need for any messy caulking. You can find this fastener in Home Depot bath section near the grab bars and is sometimes called the "Studless Installation Fastener."
Thank you sincerely
The studless install definitely speeds up the process! Thank you so much for the video Leah!! I love it!
Hey Vincent, thanks!
Just a word of caution on the wingets. It says clearly on the box that they can only go 1.2 inches thick. If you have old tile showers the tile, mortar, and drywall will probably be thicker. Make a small pilot hole, first. Then use a thin long bolt to measure the thickness of the wall. Put the head in first, hook the head on the wall and pinch the bolt even with the wall. If the space from your finger tips to the head is over 1.2 inches, you need another type of anchor. With super thick walls, there are butterfly type nuts and bolts that work well for this application. The wingets are very good and strong, though.
This is my new benchmark for quality "how to" instruction .you gave "all" the necessary information and you delivered it professionally but, you possess that rare quality that makes people want to listen to you. I imagine you've always had people willing to support your endeavors. Who dosent want their leaders to possess that calm yet in control disposition that by its nature seems to produce a very valuable asset = we call "support" .
A beautiful video by a beautiful person. This may be the exact solution I need to help my disabled Mom. Thank you Jane.
Iam doing the same tomorrow for my mom
Thank you Leah! This is the answer to my prayers! I have Multiple Sclerosis and I need grab bars throughout the house but always had problems finding the right place to put them. With this style grab bar I can have them installed wherever I want!
that's right!
Leah, you abilities and your instructional skills are awesome. We can never thank you enough for all you do!
Thank you!!! My elderly mother visited our new house, and we realized the garage steps into the house were a challenge for her. I need to install a grab bar in an awkward spot without studs. This will be PERFECT! Thanks so much!!!
Nice one Joe we have called them butterfly bolts for about 40 years, also Leah maybe look into some small washers as your screws looked about ready to pull through.
Extra special thanks to to wingits complete bar kit links. It’s been ages since I installed these for my folks. Definitely pre-CZcams. No-stud kits like this were not available at my circa 1972 hardware store. It’s hell when you realize it’s your turn for these. Thanks for the video. If you’ happen to be n Memphis this Saturday or Sunday, I’ll trade some great Southern food for the opportunity to watch you work in person. That invite is good anytime, my wife and I love your stuff.
Great fastener but I’d be questioning weather or not the drywall can hold 600 pounds. I’ve been contracting for 30 years and there’s no way I’d install a safety / hand rail to drywall. The fasteners must go into studs .
Love your videos 👍👍👍
Unless the studs are in exactly the right position, which is rare, or extra backing was installed prior to drywall, these Wingits work very well installing into drywall. We've done over 100 of them with no problem. It's the design of the Wingits that is the key.
I love this lady, can't say it enough. Thank you so much; you have given me so much confidence to do things myself. Love you Lady
I don't doubt the fasteners' strength, but I do question the drywall's strength. Granted, these types of fasteners distribute weight fairly well for shelving, picture frames, towel bars, etc, but when it comes to supporting an unstable loved one, I'd prefer to hit a stud every time. Great video, Leah. Thank you for all you do & for the way you do it.
I couldn't agree more.
Disabled people and even those with limited mobility can exert tremendous loads on these fittings. I am retired now but I did work in the architectural profession and we always ensured that suitable noggings were provided in stud walls to accept grab rails. The Australian standard stipulates that they must be able to withstand a load of 1100 N. Not sure that plasterboard could do that.
Having said that, I agree that these fixings would be great for other purposes - just not this one.
Love Leah's videos - she even shows an old timer like me a few things.
@Tekagi Hello Tekagi,
Let's just agree to disagree. In Australia, plasterboard in domestic construction is generally only 10mm thick, fixed to studs with 25mm plasterboard screws. Good luck trying to get the suppliers to agree that their board will withstand that load. They have specific requirements to take the load of wall tiles which obviously is nothing like the load of a person swinging on a grab bar.
I'm an Architect/builder and often when doing renovations we found the plasterboard loosely fitted to studs which were fine for a no-load situation but a well-nourished person pushing on a grab rail fixed to plasterboard could cause it to collapse.
@@kelstra1997 Hi Richard, Kiwi here. My mum is recovering from a hip replacement so I'm going to install a grab rail in her shower. There's a stud in the correct position so I'm not concerned about strength but I am worried about water getting behind the cover plates, will a bit of silicone sealant around where they meet the wall do the job? Should I seal the screws too?
@@KiwiPokerPlayer Hello KiwiPP
If memory serves me correctly, some of those fixing plates come with a neoprene gasket but you could always make something yourself. You should also use plenty of silicone as you suggest. Incidentally, tiles are never totally watertight - the membrane behind is what makes the shower waterproof so a little moisture getting through is probably not the end of the world, although obviously you try to eliminate this happening.
Thank you for this video Leah. Need to put one in for my 84yr old dad, and it's a little tricky to grab somewhere.
Leah - Rather than use a pencil to mark your level line (which is difficult to remove) use any painter's tape for your markers. The tape is easy to remove afterwards. I use the edges of the tape as my level line.
That is a really good idea. Thank you for sharing that information.
Hey its Leah, my way is actually better, also its 'Then, not 'Than',....Have a nice day.
Tor Guy No, it's than.
@@kymkryptic How do you apply a perfectly straight line of tape with one one hand, while holding a spirit level with the other? When are pencil lines ever difficult to remove? A quick wipe with a damp cloth usually makes short work of it.
@@mit1346 You place the tape on the wall first then mark on the tape with the pencil.. Remove the tape after you've marked and drilled the holes.
Leah, thanks so much for this video! Mom needs some grab bars installed, and this vid showed me more options than I thought I would have available. With that drill bit I won't need a handyman- provided I can summon the courage to drill through that tile!
Thank you for your videos. You helped me through drywall mudding and now installing grab bars.
You did a fantastic job!! We had grab bar come out of wall, now we can redo using Wingit and Apache 200! Thank you Lea!
If you look at the Wing It box, it will say on the side that it is certified for handicapped applications. I frequently have customers who are bringing in elderly parents and they are nervous about safety. I always point out the weight capacity and handicap certification. I feel that giving someone peace of mind in such a small way brings me Joy as well. Rock On Leah!!
Hey do you know if they work on full surround or molded showers?
Thank you Leah, for a wonderful explanation and demonstration.
This is so good! I'm making this a project for my mother who, bless her dear heart, is getting older and I want to make sure she's provided for.
Sure 'preciate y'all, Leah!
Leah - You are the greatest. Always sharing your good skills/ideas. Thank You
Leah - just wanted to say thank you again for all of your videos. I've learned so much from you over the years , so happy to have subbed to your channel.
Excellent video!!! I've been around construction for 40 years (electrician) I've never heard of "wingits"! Thank you! 🇺🇲🙏❤
Did you ever wonder why they make grab/safety bars in sizes not divisible by 16 (so they would fit in between regular studs)? The manufacturers want the bars installed on an angle. This offers different heights for people to hold on, and in showers, it prevents water from accumulating since water will run off an angled bar.
yes, I've installed them on the angle, for the very reason you mentioned. What I've noticed, though, is that on the package of the grab bar (such as the one I just installed) they don't show the angled orientation. This is curious.
Leah - IMHO you should install grab/safety bars at an angle in between two studs, or at least in one stud, with the other end using a toggle like you demonstrated. As we Americans get BIGGER, a 250 lbs person might be able to "pull jerk" a 300 pound toggle from drywall. It could never happen if you use wall studs.
Won’t the angle make it easy to get in, but hard to get out of the shower? I’m just wondering because it doesn’t seem helpful for one direction. I figure a vertical installation will be a good method for both in and out ... am I missing something? I have a knee disability and need one, so I want to do it once, and do it right. Any advice helps.
Good point.
@@seejanedrill Typically, these bars are installed for a particular person - who will prefer a particular height. Just as water will slide off down a slope, so will a hand - especially when it has limited grip strength and even more so when the bar is smooth (they're usually powder-coated), slippery and soapy. Hence the illustration of a typical installation. FWIW
An answer to a dilemma! We've been using the Drive stand alone toilet safety rail. I got tired of cleaning two toilet seats when Dad was alive. So instead of the toilet chair that fits inside the toilet bowl we got the frame. Perhaps a grab bar would make my nephew happier when he visits. He doesn't need it but we are doing our best to think of our future needs. This fits the bill! Thank you so much for everyone's hard work!
I love the ay you explain things and are very slow going and easy to listen too. Great vid Jane. I found you about a year ago and i check your stuff out even if I'm building it or not.
Thank you for generously sharing what you know. This video is the reason I know about wing-its and have a safer bathroom. I appreciate you so much.
Hi. I live in a very old mobile home, and everything is off-size. This demo is awesome. Now I can stop stalling, and get those darn grab bars installed. Thanx. You are the best.
Thanks for the excellent overview. I now feel very confident about the installation I'll be starting in a few minutes. Much appreciated!
Awesome tutorial. You've helped me with so many projects.
This is important info. Thank you. Grab bars are becoming a staple in my life unfortunately. This helps a lot I can now install and feel secure when I grab the darn thing. Can't say it enough, thanks.
you're very welcome!
Thank you for such a clear explanation. You make it so anyone can do it. I believe that grab bars should be in everyone's shower or bath. Pulling yourself up out of a tub of water is not easy and sometimes not safe because it's so slippery.
I didn’t know any of this, big thanks to you Leah! This is why I follow your channel you always teach me something new.
Thank you Leah for your informative video. It was well done. You are an excellent teacher.
Thank you SO much. Moms coming home from rehab, after breaking a hip and i didn't have time to find someone to come do this. How easy....you are my HERO!
OMG that's exactly why I'm installing a grab Bar. ME MAW broke her femur!! and the lady has to shower dam it.
@@wayne4386LOL.... well....if you are like me, it didn't work because we have duct work in two walls so we couldn't drill into it. So, I had to order a pole from Amazon. It works great and no wall penetration required. It's like a verticle tension rod that goes from floor to ceiling. It's been almost a year now and no issues. Good luck with Me-Maw.
Awesome, awesome. I do not take you for granted, Leah. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you again Leah, This is another project that I have coming up. One for the shower and as you did one for the camode.
Leah, I’d love to see how you attach a grab bar to a tub surround where the plastic / fibreglass stands away from anything solid.
Thanks Leah, excellent information and video as always.
Leah I often recommend friends and others that aren't handy as in common sense,to watch your informative video's . I like how you present your video's and anyone following your suggestions can do it themselves. Have to laugh because now I will be using this item in my bathroom where I know the studs aren"t strong enough anymore due to termite damage and it's obvious to me those anchors will provide a secure bond. Thankyou
you're welcome, Koi, and thanks!
Great video. I watch them all and appreciate them all. Personally, I think this method gives a false sense of security to the user simply because drywall is not a structural material. Ultimately, on drywall, adding wood blocking between studs would provide the most secure situation.
Leah you are a Godsend my dear! I plan to use this product to install a safety bar In my mom’s shower. Thank you 🙏🏾 ❤️ I would have used washers too.
I’m so grateful for this tutorial. I’m remodeling my bathroom, and I need a grab bar in my shower, or just outside of the shower doors, but I wasn’t sure how the installation needed to be done. I was about to hire someone when I found your video. I’m thinking I should caulk the bases of the bar metal, especially if that Wing-It is exposed a bit?
If installing a grab bar in a wet area (tub/shower) where there's ceramic tile I've used silicone to seal the area around and inside the screw opening to keep water from reaching drywall.
I love you Jane you are so cool, patient and knowledgeable. Thanks a million.
Thanks, Leah! I just love your videos and the topics. Practical knowledge.
you're very welcome, Maria!
I've used WingIts for years and they are the best and the safest to use. All these other anchors that do not extend beyond the backer board are an accident waiting to happen for the right person to come along and pull the grab bar in the right way and that grab bar is coming out of the wall.
Thank you for this and other videos that I've been watching. This subject has been one that I need to take care of in my shower. I've already fallen once, with a HECK of a time getting up. I've always been concerned about waterproofing such an installation, but this doesn't look like too much of a problem. If you have further advice on this subject, please share it with us.
I need to add one or two of these to my "to do" list
Thanks Leah
You are always my favorite!!!
You deserve a TV show.
I know that I’m late to the party, but, you continue to be my hero. Thanx. 👍❤️
You took a load of pondering off my shoulders~ so I don't even have to think when you're around. Many thanks.
WOW, thanks so much for showing how to install this! You made it look so easy
Thank you, I've come across places where I had to use some type of fastener where there was no backing, or studs to attach to. I will definitely be looking into and using this product in the future.
Same principal as the toggle bolt but I like these better. Nice demo.
It's the same principle, but this one supports in all directions. For toggle bolts, you really have to make sure that the direction of the toggles are correct. Which can be hard to do. This takes the guesswork out.
This is wonderful as I'm handicapped and within a few years I'll need to install one of these
Great tutorial, Leah! I had never heard of the Wingit fastener; they do appear to be very sturdy and I plan on installing grab bars for my wife.
Wow! That's a great idea. Thank you for showing us!
thank you Leah you're good at what you do keep up the good work👍😎
This little czcams.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
Leah, I have yet to use ANY fastener kit that comes included with any home product. I have a whole bucket full of substandard anchors and screws still in their cellophane packets.
Thanks Leah from Australia. I had to pick up my father in law from his garden today, He'd fallen over. So I suspect that I'll be needing to install bars soon. This is a brilliant idea. Thanks again.
Thank you Leah for sharing!
Great video and welcome information! I wish I'd know about wing-its long before now. By the way, I used my hand for a hammer for years until I broke a bone in it. Be careful. Thanks.
That's why I was taught to always to use a..
RUBBER MALLET.
Because in the long run it prevents a lot of arthritis pain in later life.
Leah thank you for an additional knowledge...
Great video as usual. Thank you for making them!
Great video. Helped me tremendously. Thank you!!
Thank you so much. I installed a couple for my elderly father. Your instructions are so precise and easy to follow. Great video.
So happy I found your channel💫👍🏼☺️
Yeah! A woman teaching this. Thank you, Leah. I watched 2 guys, but didn't feel like I could do it. You make me feel that I can do this.
I would have liked to seen that Apache work on ceramic tile. I firmly believe the diamond tipped cores are the best way to go when it comes to tiles. Love the fact that the anchors are rugged for being plastic.. Also you may note in the future ADA requirements on certain installations.
I use a hammer drill for tiles.
love that installation I have put hundreds of bars up funny the first time I saw anyone use the wingtis system great stuff be safe god bless
Great video, so is it basically the same process to install in a shower on ceramic tile? 
Great video! Thanks. I will use a wingit for my grab bar install!
I need to install grab bars for my mom. I've been struggling! But I"m going to try these. Thank you!!
My wall is plaster from the 1930s, so if this can hold up even a curtain rod I'd be thrilled.
Great tutorial. Thanks Leah!!
you're welcome, John!
you are a gem so much useful information thanks for the great content helped me out very much.
Thanks for doing this video - great close up details! I need to install these for my aging parents.
Looks like a great product. Thanks.
Did you run that drill in reverse
Great tips, thanks.
I’ve had multiple strokes and my balance is quite poor. This will be a great help
The amazon link says "NOT intended to be used to install grab bars. For grab bar installation please see either the rc-ssbgbw40-2 or rc-resgbw35-2"
Thank you that worked great!!
This video grabbed my attention. Thanks Leah!
I always enjoy a good pun!
I'd like to use the Wingits, but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to pull it off in the end.
I like that job, and it was so easy too. I have to look that up so I can put one of those in my shower. I thank you so much for that product tip, Leah.
Leah is amazing - I feel like I can do it!
Great video! Can this be used on fiberglass showers, or will the drilling crack the fiberglass?
Thank you for a great video!!
Could the wingit flange be trimmed down, before installation, so as not to show?
Janey
nice strong install... the nice thick drywall should hold well .. if half inch drywall, I would go for studs..
if necessary, a ledger board to stretch from stud to stud...jmo
home deep sell(s) a neat tee fastener .. half inch hole.. shov the inline collapsed umbrella thru with the attached plastic rod.. curved hook piece deploys the butterfly....slide the collar up like your system ... snap off the part of the plastic rod sticking out..screw in the 1/4 20 or 3/16 whichever you selected.. ...
I put up two shelf brackets in a deli..2 butterflies each and one ordinary screw at the bottom of each.. wall was ceramic tile over plywood.. strong as can be..
Hi Leah, have you ever made a DIY van conversion to live in ? I would love to see a series about the great ideas you would come up with. Inexpensive and practical. ♥️
Very well done
Great Video. You are very talented.
Those wingits look awesome for many other jobs like my coat hook bar that has 5 hooks and takes all the jackets winter ones too so takes alot of weight and the screws are starting to come loss and need reseating those wood be great. Any way i wanted to say that i have those grab bars but i had mine installed vertical because i have trouble with my wrists and if there the other way it really hurts pulling my self up if they are layed down, i just wanted to mention it so people know you can do them at any angle. Loveing you're videos. 8)
Though they'll be an Overkill for that
Not when you have 6 grandsons that dangle from there jackets when they put them on it haha.
Hey Paul, thanks for sharing the tip about vertical installation
Paul Emmerson I need vertical installation too. Funny about your hanging grandchildren, 😆.
Hi Leah,
My name is Reg Tomerlin. I’m an aerospace engineer working with my partner Justin, also an engineer and a patent attorney. We have just been granted a new U S Patent for a grab bar that will be affordable and save injuries and lives of seniors. You will see that it is very unique. It requires No Holes in the wall. They can be installed on tiles, mosaics, and glass at any angle and any position. They can easily be installed by seniors. “If my 85 year old father can install one of these, anyone can do it!”; a quote from my medical doctor friend.
I am today watching your CZcams videos especially the one about grab bars. If after seeing our new product design, I’d like to discuss the possibility of your making a video for us and posting it on CZcams and other social media platforms for the purpose of introducing it to seniors. I’ll be happy to send you a pair of these together with the necessary materials and instructions. I would especially appreciate if you choose that they a in use by a senior. A “Sense of Security” is equal to the safety they provide.
I can send you more information if you would like.