Which Caliber Is Best For Concealed Carry?
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- Which Caliber to Carry?
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Years ago, my CCW instructor said “it doesn’t matter what size round you miss em with”
Like in Powerlifting, "No one cares that you bombed / red lighted on a bigger weight."
David Bowden I carry a 50AE because we have a hippo infestation where I live
Tre' Roney Where the fuck you live?
Actually large caliber tank rounds can kill with misses from shockwaves
@@TheJacobHughesSkate - Pablo Escobars mansion. Which is why he never replied
It's all about shot placement. I once killed a chupacabra with a .22 long rifle.
Josh311 for the win!
My neighbor killed a t-rex with a Hilti gun.
Yet 45acp and 10mm can be used to hunt large animals. 9mm you can’t, not humane to use as a hunting round. I want the round that can take down bear, boar, deer and Bigfoot. People are far easier to take down then large game.
Stolen joke from another youtubers video. Nice try though. Try being original.
@@carryeveryday910 it's from HIS video. That's why I posted it.
Shot placement doesn’t come from lower calibers, it comes from practice. Shoot what your comfortable with and hit the range often with it.
Patrick McQuail ok.
Dump a magazine quickly in 10mm and the compare that group to a 9mm.
He’s just trying to say what you have the most experience with is probably the one you ought to trust your life with.
You sir are a wise man
@@christopherbarger6112 - You shouldn't dump a magazine in all caliber, with that said 10mm is the exception of the rule "stopping power" as stated in this video.
@@russellsimpson9492 Few people talk about 10mm because it scares the crap out of FBI agents. It has recoil so it is hard to control and the loud BANG gives them PTSD. But when you go to the gun store, unless you want a Glock, they are always on backorder. Plus, when there was a run on ammo, there was usually some 10mm when the shelves were bare.
.50 BMG all day, maybe .338 Lapua if I need something compact.
David Burke 😆
How about a .308 for concealed carry? no? okay then.
@@ErzaRosenberg what is that, a caliber for ants?
Oh my God! I mean ... I guess, yeah..
Ah thats nothing i conceal carry a tank.
Whether it’s .380, .38, 9mm, .357, .40, .44, .45, .22, or 10mm. Having a gun is better than NO gun. 😉
Exactly, a hole in the body is a hole in the body.
@@MrWhitelightning73 what😳
@@MrWhitelightning73 you don’t want shot someone behind them tho
@@yakobtesfalem1494
That’s always an issue in crowded areas.
Left out 32 acp
9mm on Monday
.357 Sig on Tuesday
.40 S&W on Wednesday
.400 Corbon on Thursday
10mm on Friday
.45 ACP on Saturday
And because I'm nostalgic,
.44 Magnum on Sundays
10mm on any day ending in "day"
Friday is gonna be your best day. For sure.
Your lack of 50AE disturbs me
Love ya bro 400 Corbon and 10mm are the beast.
Pump 12 on weekends,
Conceal Carry= 9mm
Trunk(Car)= AR-15
Bedside= .45 acp
God Bless American 🇺🇸
DR. STEEL-FiST yeah it all depends on which room I’m in, if I’m in my car or the wife’s or me just taking a walk. But where ever or whenever someone try’s something I’m prepared.
2nd amendment is the most important right and freedom. NEVER vote nor support anyone that wants to limit it and take it away!!!
300 blackout with echo trigger next to bed, Glock 17 33 round mag with tlr2 hl with grip remote, truck gun double stack 10mm 1911 in center console sw governor in steering column holster sometimes 223 ar under the back seat but I think it’s much more likely to need rifle fire power for a home invasion than for anything that’s gonna happen in a vehicle, I only see the point of a rifle in the truck if you are gonna try to intervene in a mass shooter type senario. Governor is the ultimate for car jacker with the right Ammo and the ten has the ability to reach out as far as you would need to in 99 percent of anything i would expect and has the penetration to go through car doors and glass reliably without the same over penetration with standard rifle Ammo. I do run close quarters rounds from Lehigh defense for the 300 and that stuff is awesome
I don’t understand the point of 45 when there’s 10mm
Conceal= 9mm/40/347
Truck(car)= Shotgun/50 Cal
Bedside= 50 cal/.45ACP
40. Personally and I always have a spare mag or two
Another key point I want to add is the PRICE of ammo to practice n how much you practicing you plan on doing... It gets expensive very fast
Smitty Clutch shooting is a degenerative skill, if you don’t practice, you won’t retain the skill. You have to practice.
Want to practice more? Reload. Sure you need to use the carry ammo enough to know it and your gun agrees, but the price/rd is less than "whitebox" for the same velocity reloaded.
Very good point! If you can’t afford ammo, you can’t afford to practice (not live 🔥 anyway).
Agreed. Big factor for me. Also a great rationale for getting a .22.lr pistol similar to what you carry. I have the Taurus TX, and that thing is going to pay for itself this year in ammo savings.
@@jeffreystayman375 S&W M&P 22 LR. Shoot several hundred rounds a week. At 20 yards 90% in the center circle. Bet I can put all in the center at 20 feet and if they are coming at me it is self defense.
always have a soft spot for .380 one of the first handguns I ever shot and have loved it ever since
Yes. Shot placement is key, but you don’t always get the chance to have great shot placement.
I'm a woman, 5' 7" 115 solid lbs. And although I in *no way* want to flaunt that I'm carrying, I am not obsessed with having "absolute conceal" at all times that I am. Reason being is that I'm not a fan of sub compact carry guns. I don't like the
.380 because I think the rounds are a bit anemic (for my preference).
I carry different firearms depending on what I'm feeling on any given day. Most of them are 9mm though. I love both the 9mm and the .45 acp. I keep an AR-15 in my vehicle. I live in Colorado in the mountains and I'm rarely in a city however, you just never can know what kind of a situation you might all of a sudden find yourself in. Better to be prepared or even over prepared than left there to become a victim of whatever.
For home defense I like my 410 shotgun as well as my
45 acp.
NOTE: Now that we find ourselves living in this brave new world of George Orwell's 1984, having to exist in crazy 2020 of this rediculous cv19 hoax... I say you can not be
"Over prepared".
Thanks, you guys stay safe! ✌️
Welcome to 2022, you may want to up your game. I recommend a RPG.
@@mybad8805
Hey thanks for the reply.. I did just buy a Benelli M4 12 gauge. I have replaced the 5 shot magazine with the extended one so I've got
7 + 2 now. I'm looking for the adjustable stock for it now...
lol, I laugh because it's been the reaction I keep getting when I'm calling around trying to locate one. 🤷♀️
Have a great day -
@@Jane.Doe. That will work. Happy new years.
@@mybad8805
Thanks and Happy New Year to you too! I hope you and your family keep safe in all the crazy...
Peace and Blessings -
@@Jane.Doe. I read something last night that stated a 20 gauge shotgun made a good defense weapon. God bless.
I think the Ruger LCP Max is a game changer in the 380 world. I carry it with 12+1 rounds of Inceptor ARX. That's a lot of firepower. Having said that that, I will carry my Glock 43x MOS or Canik TP9 Elite SC every time if what I'm wearing supports it. When I do that, my LCP Max is my backup gun. I have a Clip Draw and a true sheath for front pocket carry.
I agree with their assessment about the 9mm, however; I do carry a Sig P238 (380) rather than the 9. And yes, their assessment of female priorities in carrying are also fairly accurate. I chose the 380 because it is easier to conceal under my clothes. Also, I have extremely small hands. I have yet to find a 9 that I can shoot comfortably. I know sub-compact 9s are much smaller than they used to be, but for the most part they are just too large for me. Plus, it is difficult enough for women to carry without imprinting, even a small difference in size or bulk can turn a subtle imprint into blatant very quickly. Luckily, the market has finally caught on to the need for holsters that work with women's clothing and bodies; so there are new innovations in concealed carry options for us.
I prefer the 380 for the weight and the fact it's fail rate is close enough to a 9mm in terms of stopping an attack that it's a minimal thought. A few good hits with a 380 will definitely stun your target the same as a 38spl.
Exactly the size of the gun doesn’t always make it harder for you to shoot the only way you can know that personally is from experience when you’re choosing a gun for you.
What caliber is best? All of them.
32acp
12gauge #4 buck, 3" shells.
OG7V-round
Rule one. Bring a gun that you practice with to a gun fight.
*Straps every gun to body* all the calibers
Caliber debate is a played out topic. Whatever you shoot the most accurate and whatever is available when SHTF is the best caliber. Everything else is BS
Aaron Roberts you know you don't go hunting with a 9mm. Its inhumane to the animal do to its lack luster take down power. That's all I'm saying. 45 acp when available. Minimum 40mm.
Frostacious agreed caliber is everything and can get you killed used for the wrong purpose
I've heard so many ".22 short hunting" stories, I've lost track.
I have witnessed enough small caliber vs large caliber displays to know that shot placement is most important.
With all that said, to paraphrase an ex Navy officer friend, if I have to pull my side arm, I've made one critical mistake. The 2nd will not be failure to make big holes in the threat.
He was serious about practice and shooting the largest caliber/capacity you could with precision.
He defined precision as killing playing cards from 10 to 25 yards.
He loved to tell folks, "If you can't hit what you're aiming at, that weapon is just a noisy rock."
Ex servicemen say some of the slickest stuff.
Robert Cherry when I was AD and had the pleasure our unit got to do bitch work for the seals on a raid. The guys told us you carry the biggest and nastiest round you can effectively carry. Never compromise carrying a smaller caliber if you can handle a larger caliber. Size does matter. Your goal he told us is to cause as much tearing and ripping of tissue, blood vessels as possible. Cause as large of a wound cavity as possible to cause as much as blood loss as possible. If you can destroy the heart and lungs is not always a for sure. Blood loss is and immediate failure of vitals stops them. Smaller calibers take more rounds and DO NOT cause as much of a wound as others. Never shoot a man with a small calibers.
He said if 44 magnum had more capacity and was as controllable as 9mm, 40sw, 45acp, they would carry that.
In the wise words of comedian Bill Burr... if you get shot with a B.B. gun your at least going to run outside to regroup!
Most important of all... practice, practice, practice, practice... Calm under pressure, one well placed shot... No matter what you carry... (or afford)
The longer I carry the bigger the gun I feel like I can carry 😄 just carried my Glock 20 yesterday iwb with a light attached and a rds. Much bigger than my first carry gun, sig p238. Both are great, but the 10mm is said to rip a hole in space and time so it will probably be my main carry from now on 🧙🏿♂️
Christian Howtolife hahah I’m carrying my g21 with a x300u iwb because that’s all I have and it’s fine until I have to tie my shoe😂
That makes sense. Like weights. You get used to concealing small so then it’s easier to find spaces for something bigger. And you can better handle the weight.
The one you have the most control over. Where that bullet goes once you’ve fired it means literally EVERYTHING. Everything else is 100% semantics.
i like a 380 for carry because of size. Aim is 5x more important than caliber
Ooo(
*A:* _The one you will actually carry._
I have a titanium snub nose revolver with a ported barrel in .45 colt. Excellent for concealing. Not the best caliber for most, admittedly, but I go from urban areas to cougar and bear country, so its a 'one tool for many jobs' situation for me.
.380 is not obsolete. I carry my .380 when I need to deep conceal and I just can't find a 9mm that is small enough to pocket conceal and not print. I carry my 9 about 90% of the time, but .380 has a valid role. Its better to have a .380 than no gun, and when I have to dress up, and can't wear a coat, ankle or pocket carry of my .380 meets my need.
Gary Hendershot take a look at the Kahr PM9......small 9mm and easy to conceal.....
Conceal carrying a 380 acp is more effective then a 357 magnum stored at your house .
P938 SAS fits most pants, when I'm tacticool pants a G2/G2C fits. At worst both look like I have a huge galaxy phone with otter box on it.
Yeah .380 definitely isn’t obsolete, just ask the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife...
I call bs Gary you have 9mm that are the same size as a 380 so why not carry the better cartridge
Clearly if capacity is a concern 22 short is the best choice. You can fit a couple thousand loose rounds in the pocket of your running shorts.
All about shot placement.but a .45 does a lot of damage placed in the same place of a 9 mm. The 10mm is going to create a time vortex in the same place. Carry what you feel best. I change every day. I have enough guns in.45,.40 and 9mm and 10mm.
I said 25acp so those egotistical numsnuts have no excuse!
Armando Cora changing between a multitude of different guns that function different like DA/SA to striker or DOA to SAO then manual safety to trigger dingus you are doing yourself a disservice. It makes it hard to build a muscle memory switching all the time for each day to the next. I have 3 pistols I carry a G17, G19, and G43 all same manual of arms, relatively similar trigger feel, same sight config, and similar light activation. I love all kinds of pistols but my carry is what I am betting my life on when I draw it I do not want to be remembering the manual of arms of said weapon in an adrenaline dump. You WILL make mistakes and minimizing the factors that can lead up to the mistake will be to your advantage. If you are not a Glock guy you could go the Sig route like the video advertised with a P320 full compact and sub then to round it out a P365 for small carry or Walter PPQ and PPS I am not a brand snob. Honestly I love CZ pistols I am a total pistol hipster as I have been called. The idea is consistency and repeatability. Invest in a shot timer go to the range and train on the first shot time from the holster and work on splits I bet it might surprise you the results. Then sprint 100m and repeat on a shot timer. If you disagree with me that is also ok maybe I planted a seed for you to at least think about it. Caliber I honestly do not care what you carry just make sure you carry. Be safe and keep shooting!
Edge Good information here. I also happen to go the same Glock route. I’m in Florida though, so my 43 gets out more often since I’m usually just wearing a t-shirt and shorts.
I just pictured Kramer dumping all them coins at the Calzone spot in Seinfeld.
Glk 19c. Every day carry. I adjust what I wear to accommodate conceal carry. How I look is not as important as protecting my family.
The Badger Gen 5 G17 personally. But I open carry and live in Texas.
43 and 17 for me extra MAGAZINE'S. It will go through most car's truck doors windshields. MAGA BROTHER KICK A SOCIALIST in the TEETH.
I still love the 380.
Still carry my lcp2 .380 when not carrying my new 9mm taurus g3c.
I'm looking at a Bersa or Walther. I like 380s
My EDC is my “9mm” (CZ P-10 or G43)! On occasion, I carry my G27 (.40 cal). When my wardrobe is more refined, my Sig P238 accompanies me. All are great shooters & I’m confident with each one, however, my 9mm’s are my choice of carry! Train often, stay alert!
S&W 686, 7 rounds of 357 mag in a 3 inch barrel
The department that I work for uses Glock 22 handguns. I’ve been with them for 13 years and because of them I really fell in love with the .40 S&W caliber. I actually used my personal G22 as my every day conceal and carry up until 2019. A few days after Christmas 2018, I bought a Glock 45 and it immediately became my new every day conceal and carry. A few months later I bought a second one that is an MOS. And then I bought a Glock 19X, just because.
I 100% agree with how ammo has advanced in recent years. The ammo that I carry in every single handgun that I own is the Underwood Xtreme Defender ammo. And in +P when available in the calibers available. Google search 2016/2017 Joint Agency Ballistics Test For Handgun Self Defense Ammunition. It is I think a 52 page report? Around page 31 or 32 breaks down the Underwood Xtreme Defender ammo. The ammo out performs every hollow point ammo out there in every category and in every caliber the Xtreme Defender ammo is made in.
Love my 9mm! Overall I think they are easier to handle especially in a serious situation, but it’s all in how you train and practice
.357SIG... unless you're just trying to tickle the threat.
I'm just playing. Personally I'll take 9mm for carry. The .357SIG goes to the desert/woods.
tehkoalainsurgency
Logical.
Following the same logic - anything less than a 50 BMG is just a waste of money. #sarcasm.
Yep I was going to say .357 Sig, then I saw your comment. I carry a P229 .357 Sig or S&W 357 mag, but I live in the woods/ mountains, so there's that.
Logan Waltz. .45 isn't in the same ballpark as .357 sig properly loaded.
tehkoalainsurgency
.357SIG = Worked VERY WELL in the Church in Ft. Worth this week .
Thank you. Very informative.
I liked your Very Informative/Instructional videos so much I subscribed and now carrying with a round in Battery . Thanks Mr. Noir ! ( an Ol' Nam Vet )
I carry a 1911 - when asked, I always recommend a tupperware gun in 9mm - take the 1k you save and spend it on ammo, then practice - a lot. Simply based on grip size/shape, Glock and I don't get along. I like Walther & Springfield - then S&W, although the I do like the Glock 43. I love Sig grips, but I haven't had good luck with the guns - fantastic customer service though.
But for me, nothing handles as well as a 1911 - I still don't recommend them, and if I were starting over I wouldn't go that route.
Favorite caliber - 9x23 Win - 10 rounds in a 1911 with .357 Mag ballistics. It makes me sad that it never got any market share.
The best caliber to carry is the one you're going to train, practice, and carry daily with.
Shoulder Harness: 1911 .45
Waistband: H&K USP 9mm
TL:DR: Versatility and a back up.
I wear both at once. One round in the chamber, all magazines with one less than full capacity (less spring wear).
That's 1+6+6+6=19 on the .45 and 1+14+14+14=43 on the 9mm. This is my preferred carrying setup to protect myself as I go about my day around town. The shoulder harness is great because I can draw easily even in a seated position. The waistband serves as a back up and also a quick draw while standing.
Great video!!! My EDC pistol is the full size pistol S&W M&P Shield 9mm 2.0 5” FDE. It’s thin it’s not heavy & it has an 18 round capacity!!! I feel safe and comfortable carrying this pistol. I’m a subscriber!!
Also a fan of the 9mm. I'll take capacity over the tiny difference you get from a 45 any day of the week.
SolarReLaPsE I keep hearing capacity. Para makes a concealable 1911 double stack with 13+1. I’ve carried it for almost 20 years. If I use my shoulder harness I have two spare mags. Otherwise I just drop a mag into my pocket and have plenty of capacity.
Thats fair and all, but with a gen 5 Glock i can do 17+1 and 17 on reserve in another mag. Thats only 5 round less than youre 40 rounds between 3 mags, and thats if you're rocking a shoulder harness which isnt always optimal for people and can really inhibit reload time, which almost makes the extra 5 rounds obsolete. But thats from the perspective of someone who hasnt trained extensively with the shoulder holster. Dont want to seem like I'm knocking those who carry 45, cause Im not at all, just a preference thing for me.
SolarReLaPsE that’s reasonable. My point is it’s possible to carry enough .45 rounds. I always hear people say you only get 6 or 7 rounds in .45 and that’s just not the case. There have been many different .45 double stacks that have plenty of capacity. The reality is I have a 9mm that holds 15+1 and it is no better to carry than my Para Tac-Four. If I’m forced to make that choice I’ll take 13+1 .45 over the 15+1 9mm. Especially how they talked in this video. They say the choice is 6 .45 or 9 9mm. There are plenty of options in double stack. It would be nice if they address those. A double stack .45 is no harder to carry and conceal than a double stack 9mm. There will always be some difference in capacity but it’s not always as bad as I hear people say. And more over if capacity is the only thing that matters why not carry .22? You can easily carry twice as much .22 compared to 9mm.
It all depends on the ratio between carrying capacity and shock inducement. If somebody can figure out the ratio, we will have our pick.
If we stack 12 cartridges of 45 caliber against 16 cartridges of 9 mm and come to a conclusion on how much hydrostatic shock those create, we will have our pick.
Who knows, you might need 35 .9 mm bullets to 13 .45 caliber to even the balance, we simply don't know but the fact remains the same.
You need more 9mm to create an equal balance between 9 and .45 with respect to how many rounds you need to take someone down regardless. If we need 12 rounds or 15 rounds to take down anyone, we might as well start carrying shotguns lol.
For me capacity is everything. God forbid i ever get in a situation but id be freaking out my aim would be off. Just my .02 guys
In 9 mil we trust 😂😂😂
And we practice most cheaply.
Still like my 40 cal better 😁
Keep the 9 & 40
Absolute great video... This is my everyday argument summed up in under 7 minutes 🇺🇸
Bravo.thenks
Thank you for the PSA about .380's more prone to fail. I tried a number of .380 vendors with a number of different ammo variants and more often than not - ended up with an FTF. Although I really like the form factor for pocket carry - I just couldn't rationalize the risk.
My LCP Max has hundreds of rounds through many types of rounds without a single failure.
@TXLorenzo 380 fire storm is an actual South American cop gun. Not a knock off. In the states I have noticed certain folks intentionally dumbing down some hand guns. Using cheaper material. Means 10 rounds is 9 rds. Also not 13 from quality or so.
The bullet is more important than the caliber. The new low weight for caliber high velocity low recoiling monolithic solids like a Lehigh defense Xtreme Defender in any caliber from 380 to 45 ACP. It's going to take time to be accepted by the masses but they set the new standard for personal defense.
Steve Mo if a person carry’s 9mm or smaller the round picked is absolutely a priority to get right.
I was a .45 guy for a really long time and a friend of mine got me shooting 9mm more. Now I don't have a .45 anymore and I carry a 9mm (P365). My wife carried a .380 until she took part in one of my defensive pistol classes and the thing had failures on every other magazine even with multiple shooters. She bought her P365 the next day after running mine the rest of the class.
I lived in Wyoming for few years and carried a sig 320 compact. Due to being relocated to florida, my carry gun is a sig 238. I'm a thinner guy and due to the wardrobe switch, I needed a gun to conceal real easily. I always carry 2 mags.
I love all rounds equally
I keep hearing that you only get 6 or 7 rounds with the .45. I have a para ordnance double stack. It gives me 13 + 1 rounds of .45. I have carried this gun regularly for almost 20 years. I may be the old man in this discussion but I would definitely prefer 13 rounds of .45 to 15 rounds of 9mm. That’s not to say I won’t carry a 9mm. I’ve got them but if I have the choice I’m taking my .45.
Thats when size becomes a factor. For example a .45 that holds 6-8rds is easily the same size, though usually bigger than a compact 9mm which holds 13-15rds. For example Glock 30 .45 10rd cap is the same size as a glock 19 with 15rds. A para ordinace double stack is more comparable to 9mm guns with 17-20 cap. Most people dont carry full size handguns on a daily. For me a 9mm is just all around more practical. But I love my .45s too. I personally carry the biggest I can, while its still be concealed.
When I worked in security, I carried a para 40-16, so I had about the same number of shots as the 9 guys with more power. And I never figured out why all of these muscular firearms instructors complain about how hard the 40 kicks, I never had any problem controlling it.
Mom went with the .380 EZ Shield because of ease to rack the slide and load the magazine.
Been carrying a G19 since 2006. I occasionally switch it out with my P07 .
The only 380 I would ever carry is my Beretta 84Fs Cheetah . It's a double stack 380 with 13 round cap.
Not a fan of pocket pistols . They do have their purpose . I'm a bigger guy .
If Glock made a G19 Frame with G17 slide that would be the only gun I'd ever switch too.
The M2.0 Compact 3.6" might be occasionally carried once I run some more rounds through it..
In all my carry guns I carry Hornady 135g Critical Duty . Occasionally use 124g HST
I keep hearing about the improvements that 9 mm has made...
Can anyone tell me the improvements 9 mm received that .40 and .45 did not also receive????
PLEASE stop telling me that the FBI or Police use 9 mm...
Most police drive a Ford Crown Victoria, that does not mean it's the best car available!!!
Nah reason FBI went back was when weighing wound stats to rounds carried to agents ability to control the gun they went back to the 9mm. The fact is most LE don't make officers/agents train hard enough or long enough to become the absolute BEST at what ever they carry. G men(FBI=Gman) USED to carry a 4in barrel .38spl, with old souls who had Military training carrying GI1911. My grandfather shit trap with ex FBI from Late 30s to early 40s up till he hit mandatory retirement.
He was much like Clint Smith. You never saw it. He would compete and gun would magically appear and ever round was damn near a bulls eye every time. Man was menace on pistols and M1/M1A/M14/M16. But with shotgun on clay pigeon he struggled till grandpa worked about 6 hours and 5 cases of ammo and truck load of clay birds. They started at 9am, broke 12- 1:30 then on for another 3 hrs. My grandfather had to change up tactics to piss guy off, he pulled out his .410/.22lr over under and would repeatedly smack this guy down shooting clay pigeon with .22 shorts.
Guy finally ran three 100 strings with 95+ last one I slapped out a 99 and a chippy. But guy was happy.
Shoot what's comfortable, carry as much spare ammo as possible and practice drawing g from odd situation and position. Plan your defense in your head as you sit at stop light. When exiting car THINK as if your armed and under fire. How so you get gun into battery. Then get home, and practice.
What you shoot best is what works. If a Curve in 9mm is best suited for you, done. And remember Clint Smith's rule 3 is 2, 2 is 1 and 1 is none. Learn fast identifying any rifle/pistol. Get to where you go to gun shop, drop mag, rack/check slide, release safety. The better you are at adjusting to any weapon makes you less a target.
If you only practice with Ruger Blackhawk and your faced with picking up a S&W and can't figure out cylinder release to check it, your now an questionably armed gun nobody. BUT if your familiar with as many as possible your one step farther away from being a victim. My only carry gun, P 90 Ruger, just bought XDm 4.5 tactical, threaded barrel, fde, 13+1 I am familiar with it and as soon as a proper holster is procured I'm gonna carry that for a while. Current Ruger load out is 8+1 185 silvertip, 2/7rd 230 hard ball. XDm has one or two mag 230 federal alum case, and one is full of S & B 230 hardball. But I have 3 /13 Rd mags, add in in chamber and a 10 Rd mag that fits and I can carry full box of ammo!
Statistics wise, 380-45 are all equivalently effective at stopping a threat, so the choice in calibers has much more to do with personal preference. (link below)
The majority of instructors use Glock 9mm for EDC because they are (arguably) the most out-of-box reliable and they can carry more rounds than 40 or 45 while also being cheaper to shoot than all of the other calibers.
Because 9mm is more available, it also has more options for type of round, and round type plays a major role in effectiveness of stopping a threat. Typical FMJ range ammo has a tendency to over penetrate and waste energy beyond the target, while hollow point types of ammo expend their energy more quickly.
9mm hasn't made any special improvements that other calibers haven't, it's just more popular, so it gets a wider variety that other calibers don't.
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Even the idiots that love to say well the FBI carry’s it, they would also know the FBI stayed the 9mm has major issues that require additional rounds to take down a bad guy vs other calibers but were issuing it because of how easy it is for their agents to shoot not because of its effectiveness
@@zack9912000 Sources?
EngiNerd I can get you the links when I get home, there have been multiple shootings and the FBI has changed their minds a few times now. Note their HRT swat members all carry 45acp and 10mm 1911- and glocks
"Shot placement trumps caliber every time."
Me: *YoU'rE rEaL cOnFiDeNt FoR sOmEoNe In M1Abrams DiStAnCe* .
Also, I want to give my 2 cents on the 380 female carry vs the 9mm male carry argument.
Like you said, shot placement is everything, and the way I see it is, if it works, it works.
Lately, since I’m advancing in age and nostalgia is setting in I’m putting all my modern guns aside. I’ve started carrying my Browning Hi Power 9mm or Colt Diamondback .38 with a Browning BDA .380 backup. Done with collecting. Use em if you got em.
My philosophy is buy what you like and use what you've got.
I'm a revolver guy when it comes to self defense. My 38 special is comfortable to wear, concealable, and definitely packs a good enough punch to stop an attacker
I'm a revolver guy as well. I legally conceal carry a 357 magnum J frame. I keep it loaded with 38 special and have a speedloader loaded with 357 magnum. When you consider where I live and how often I interact with strangers, I don't need but so many shots to get one or two attackers off of me. This is why I am able to preference the style and versatility of a J frame revolver over some boring square pistol with more rounds than I am gonna ever need to shoot at one time.
I carry a FNX 45 tactical... 15 rds of hate with an RMR ... I like my Glock19 but in the winter I am 45 all day..
Did you ever get a silencer for your FNX .45?
At the end of the day, which caliber you carry is irrelevant, that you carry is the most important aspect! If all you carry is a .32acp, but carry everyday, everywhere you go, you are better off than the guy with the bigger caliber that leaves it at home because it didn't fit with the outfit.
Personally I have more than one good carry gun. In calibers ranging from .32acp all the way to .44 magnum. And I carry what works based on what I'm wearing and where I'm going to! If I'm hiking in bear country .44 magnum. In a tux to a black tie affair, I usually carry my PPK in .32acp! But I'm always carrying something. And I keep a rifle in my vehicle, for those times when more firepower is needed.
Good stuff mate
I agree with these guys. The best carry gun is the one you can put on target the most effectively. I love my 9mm but my friend carries his .45 and is super comfortable with it. We have each found our best carry gun.
What about 10round mag capped states?
Would you prefer 10 45acp or 10 9mm ( assuming sufficient accuracy with each) ??
9mm prob easier to carry and lighter, but it subconsciously feels like I'm wasting the 1/3 of the mag I'm carrying...
Huey 7 that’s a fair point! If every gun has the same capacity, what caliber then???
I would say, weight, and follow up shots would play a factor. Shot placement and energy transferred also play a factor. The 9mm is faster, lighter, has very high pressure and can transfer a massive amount of energy. The .45ACP is slower, heavier, and the amount of energy transferred isn't much higher than you might think. Follow up shots are generally slower in a concealed 45 vs concealed carry sized 9mm. The .45 does leave massive holes. I personally carry a Glock 43/19 most of the time but, on my nightstand lives a full sized Sig p227. Ill even carry a snubbed 38+P from time to time. It's all opinion and how you can effectively end a threat and defend yourself or loved ones. All calibres are better than a sharp stick
So what I did. Move to a free state!
In that case I would go with the highest quality 9mm rounds I can find and drive home accuracy and shot placement like crazy. Of course the same outcome can be done with a good .45 round, but I've always liked a 124 grain all copper hollowpoint for the occasion. Plus the added benefit of a more manageable recoil for follow up shots never hurts. Either way, I'd rather not be on the receiving end of either caliber because getting shot is no bueno.
I agree with the "move to a free state" sentiment, but my advice would be whichever one you shoot the best and most accurate. Given equal capacity, I would take a .45 all day long over a 9mm, but I carry .357 Sig, so shooting .45 is easy. If you shoot a 9 better than a 45, carry the 9 and practice with the 45 until you shoot just as good. With all of that said, I've shot and carried everything and found .357 Sig to be the most potent round for EDC. I live in the mountains, so humans are not my only threat. I'm rockin 13 rounds of fire and fury with my EDC and multiple mag backups, so I think I'm good to go. And might I add, I also carry 9 mil pocket pistol so there's that .. lol
I have 3 carry guns (not all at once): S&W 380, SIG 938 9mm & a Kimber CDP II 45. It all depends on whether I’m pocket carrying or holster carrying. The 380 is the hardest to shoot, followed by the 9mm. The 45 is by far the easiest to shoot & the most accurate.
I carry CZ P10C. But I will say as far as .380 goes. My Bersa thunders are Rock solid choices for carry. Maybe I got lucky with mine, but they are, so far, super easy to shoot, and extremely reliable.
I have always carried a 1911 .45 but that is because i just love the 1911, BUT i agree with you guys 100% that shot placement is far more important than caliber. so carry the gun that you shoot best.
Good ole faithful, that's why i love my CZ75 compact
That's what I carry if I have to get dressed up. Other wise I carry the CZ 97b .45
Hell yeah! I carry a P01.
So true Sir. That is why i EDC my CZ-75D PCR. 14 rounds is all i need and another magazine. I'm all ready good for the day.
P-07 Duty love that gun, never had better follow up shots than with that pistol.
Yep, awesome handgun for what you pay for it.
I'd say 9 mil definitely
In 2020, I'd suggest a 9mm +P to any new gun owner. Carry Guard is now ⚰. Go with the CCWsafe.com .
YOU should stick with that.....but it's only your opinion of YOUR limited and narrow ability...
@@martinszoke8558 lmao wth. Well teach me something Mr expert
@@AllPaperTaker-KingG Read what I wrote if you come to no realizations or truths from what I wrote...then truth evades you anyway......
@@martinszoke8558 where is it? In this comments section?
For main carry .40 in warm weather, 10mm or
.357 sig in cold weather. 9mm or .380 as a backup pocket pistol depending on attire.
I carry Sig P320subcompact 9mm in an inside waistband appendix holster for when I wear low waist jeans and shoes. When I wear high waist jeans and boots I have right side belt holster with Beretta PX4 Storm compact 9mm. My girlfriend already has her sights on the Sig P365 in 9mm for her everyday carry.
Anyone else get the feeling ammo choice even amongst the experts is a game of musical chairs? I would like to know if the terminal ballistics tests that say there is marginal difference between 9mm, .40 and .45 failed to account for the temporary wound channel (that induces shock) being massively larger in the .45/.40, and when the wound channel in the ballistic gelatin returned to "normal" all 3 calibers seemed marginally different. You know, it's like your butt when you're taking a big poo-- it doesn't stay open but that doesn't mean that loaf wasn't serious business.
Temporary wound channels in those calibers dont cause tearing. Rifle rounds temporary cavities do.
There are differences in every caliber, they are fan boys like everyone else. Yet remember all calibers are trying to meet the history and performances of 45 and 10mm.
Wound channel in general is slightly larger then 9mm, but only by about .33"
@@baronvonsnazzy3355 that's alot
Texas Big? That's cute, like Alaska's Little Sister. :)
One year in with Conceal Carry and guns in general for self-defense, as a hobby, and the fun of target shooting!
First CCW was a Ruger Security 9, 15+1, Hornady Critical Defense FTE. It was too big to conceal under light summer clothing so,
Second CCW was a Springfield Armory 911 380, 7+1, Remington HTP (Hornady CD FTE did not consistently feed). Began looking for a small 9 mm so,
Third CCW was a S&W M&P9 Shield 2.0, 8+1, Remington HTP (will use this in the Sec 9 when the CD FTE runs out).
Fourth CCW will be ?... Waiting for the Springfield Armory 911 9mm to go on sale, but we will see.
Because of the many channels including this one I have learned: proper gun safety, to practice practice practice with all my weapons, training techniques, the importance of including some defensive ammo periodically when practicing, kydex IWB holsters are your friends, about carry insurance. Most of all I have learned that there's always more to learn and my many thanks to all who contribute!
Thanks
5.7x28mm FN is the best pistol calibre, period. Higher capacity, lower over penetration, higher armour penetration, higher velocity, similar stopping power with good ammo, lower recoil. Change my mind.
Amen, brother
Availability of ammo.
@@thehawkeyesnest5208 Oh right, yeah. That is an issue.
Depends on if you're worried about over penetration or not. If dude is wearing a cheap armor vest, then yes and if you're attacked in a crowded place, then no.
@@kerbalairforce8802 Well, no, actually. A small, high velocity bullet is going to tumble through organs more than a round nosed, meaning it'l come out with lower velocity.
best concealed carry? the one you can shoot comfortably and accurately!
I am a 9mm type guy I love my G 19 and my G 26 and both are comfortable to conceal and fun and reliable to shoot.
I finally convinced my parents that smaller isn't better for my mom's personal carry gun. Once she shot the springfield hellcat pro she was sold!
FNX .45 Tactical 15+1
My next gun for sure...
"Concealed"
I love my FNX 45 but it is too damn big to carry concealed.
@@markmacdonald6036
I conceal a 1911. So you could do the same with a FNX-45.
YES! That's my EDC. No regrets 😁😁😁
9mm for urban carry
10mm for the mountains
Why make a change. Carry the 10 all the time.
13+ 9mm HST gets the job done. I practice to accurately and rapidly shoot at least 3 at a time. My favorite CCW is a Sig p365 with the XL grip module.
The same technology that improved the 9mm has also improved the 40 and 45. Some of the newer 45 hollow points expand to nearly 1” diameter and pass all the FBI protocols.
2.7×9mm Kolibri
LMFAO yes! Don't even change mags just carry 2 or 3 Kolibris on you, toss it on the ground when you run dry.
Schwerer Gustav 800mm
I just casually tow my f-22 around, just in case enemy fighters 🤷🏻♂️
I live in Commiefornia. Capacity is capped at 10rds. I choose .45ACP for that reason. Would y’all do the same?
Yep, but make mine a 10mm.
No I would move!
@@armedtexan8373 Best answer yet...i'm in Texas
@@armedtexan8373 i did lol
I'm in ct we have similar laws and these pre ban lowers on AR's are like a grand!! I can either get an other chanbered in 5.56 or wait til I move
I carry full size Sig P320 .45acp. I have great shot placement, 10 rounds, and leaves a hole the size of a quarter with hollow points.
I carry a choice of 2 38's, 357 Mag, and mostly full sized 1911 45's and 10mm. I agree with many it is practice and shot placement. Practice getting it up, getting it out, getting it off.
I want to see a FN FiveseveN subcompact. 15 rounds of SS190 5.7x28 in a subcompact would beat 9mm all day - and have less recoil and better penetration, too.
I moved from the Sig C3 1911 compact to the FN FiveSeven 3 years ago. 6 months ago, I purchased the new slimmed down version of the 20rd variety. It is just a tad bigger...and I mean a very small difference between the Sig 4inch and the new .57. With the alien gear ghost holster, it is literally invisible at my 4:30. Obviously I don't need to tell you that it has far superior accuracy to any other round (at pretty much any range) and it's stopping power is unmatched, but with the FN penetrators in my magazine, it pierces body armor as well. So if your willing to pay the high price (they run anywhere from 1300-1500 depending) I suggest you go ahead and follow through on you thought!
#WillNotBeInfringed
Is that the AP round? I know they did testing on the civilian rounds and it was shown to be as effective as 9mm ball. That a owner needs the AP rounds to be really effective
@@zack9912000 yep. Expensive though. I reload and I can't seem to get anything for that round just yet, so I I have to get em through a military friend.
This is overkill of a subject. The average Joe on the street needs to focus on so many other things about concealed carry than caliber and number of rounds. Buy a gun. Learn to shoot and handle it well, then do everything within your reasonable power to NEVER have to use it against another human being. This kind of drivel caters to the wannabe Rambo or John Wick.
True to a point, I think this whole argument is summed up by, carrying what YOU are most comfortably trained on and know best, and yes hoping you never have to use it...
Someone who is highly trained in Jui-Jitsu knows they will win any hand to hand fight. They don't go around showing off their skills by starting fights but they damn sure will end them. Most gun owners that are highly trained in shooting have a preferred caliber but are proficient with many. They still hope they never have to use it against another human being.
It’s just a conversation bud it’s not that deep
Im a Enlisted Navy Sailor and carry a Kimber Pro Carry II chambered in .45ACP off duty. I’ve always been taught to Carry what your comfortable with.
Easy.. 380 9 or 45. 380 for summer.. 9 mostly. But 45 when I'm in the woods.
I carry 9mm and 45. Just depends on how I am feeling that day.
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A .22 single shot in your pocket is a better self protection gun than a .44 magnum in your gun safe. :)
The caliber you can hit your target with the most frequently and most accurately.
Technology was not only applied to the 9mm. 40 S&W all day everyday!
357 sig for me.
. 40 S&W is my go to. Yeap. Luv it!
Currently wife and I are EDCing a G26 or 43, both with +3 mags, for her....a G19 for me, with a .45ACP Glock 30SF is soon to join the family as my other carry option, to include G21 13 round mag(s).
Has negligible recoil from my 19, with no real difference or difficulty in felt recoil (shot 50 rounds through a friend's .45), extremely accurate on or off-handed, one-handed, you name it......much to my surprise.
But, firing off (likely) two quick 9mm hollowpoints will work just fine.
All this talk about shot placement make me laugh. In an actual gun fight there is no way you opponent gonna stand in the same area. Your adrenaline will make you shoot wild same as your opponent. Do your shot placement in your paper target.
"it's all shot placement"
but what about 380?
"nah, size matters"
EDIT: 1000th comment. woot.
Well the problem with 380 is the tiny guns that usually use it. Makes it harder to control, harder to shoot. In a same size gun, it's fine I'd say, but then it's just an under powered 9mm round, so why not just just 9mm at that point. I can see a case for 380 with some individuals though, just not for a fully functional grown man of average or better size and strength.
edit: still liked your comment though; funny.
Nice video C....i carry the glock 20 with underwood ammo .....15+1 hot ...shot placement is key and i practice to master it.
I believe the 380 for the average citizen who is not a lawn Forssman officer is a fine choice. Your video makes many great points which I agree with as well.
Brandon Herrarea: *laughs in 9x18 Makarov*
Them: “ShOt PlAcEmEnT iS wHaT mAtTeRs”
Also Them: “Yeah, .380 is too weak”
My daughter in law carries a .380. Try assaulting her. Tell your family to let me know how it turns out.
@@paulstone472 calm down Paul Ik your wife’s divorcing you cause shes tired of cheating on you and just wants a different relationship cause your not delivering in bed but you need to calm down bud
@@t-bo2325 OMG...give me...a minute...to stop...laughing...and catch...my breath. You need help. Seriously.
According to Greg Ellifritz’s study, all handguns are equal, from .380 to .44 with a single shot average of 25%, above 60% for all rifle calibers and the king … shotgun at 70% at convincing the bad guy to rethink his path in life.
I knew this day would come.
10mm Glock 29sf all day everyday
You got that right!!!!
I carry this and 45acp and won’t dare carry anything less
Glock 20! Although I love my 29 too!