CANON R5: Using the HDMI Trigger for your ATOMOS NINJA V/V+
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- Looking at the benefits of setting up the HDMI trigger on your Canon R5 for the Atomos Ninja V and the Ninja V+
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Canon R5 Surprises
0:18 The Benefits of the Ninja V/V+
0:50 The HDMI Trigger
1:35 Setting up RAW Recording
2:02 Setting up Non-RAW Recording
4:10 Drawbacks to Canon's HDMI Trigger
5:46 Final Conclusion
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Thank you. Saved me a great deal of frustration trying to work out how to trigger the Ninja V from an R5.
Thank you for this very useful trick, I was wondering how to achieve that and I must admit I wouldn't have found a solution without you. Cheers!
Great video! Thank you for the information! 👍🏻
Jeez… I’ve had an Atomos ninja V on my R5 for over a year and just now knew you could do this.
On menu 8 standby: low resolution on helps with over heating I hear. But then someone mentioned to turn off if you trigger from just the ninja?
On r6 hdmi display does don’t record to card when camera plus hdmi is selected
Thank you!
Hey Bryan, great video. Got my R5 and R6 set up now. Is there a way to do the same on the C70? Thanks. Keep up the great content.
I also learned today by fooling around how to record 4KU 4KHQ & FHD on the ninja..
If you wish to record 4k or FHD, please choose ProRes as your codec on the Atomos and set your camera to output a standard video signal (not RAW).
This would be a very good video lesson if you could go over this. It was a struggle to figure this out for me
Some people only know how to record 5K and 8K on the atomos Ninja Plus not knowing they can record full HD 4KU as well.
Great video.
It's a great trick to know, that's why I made sure to split up the sections in my video between RAW and Non-RAW options. ProRes is a great codec. I think the more people become aware of this, the more it will help them expand their R5. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
@@DeafDirector I've noticed that when I set the Canon r5 to 4k 60p, I don't get any display on the ninja 5+. Any recommendations?
@@kellensteele1396 HDMI cable maybe? Some don't support 4k 60p
Hi Dead Director,
Good find.
I’m curious when dual recording with this option (now raw), does the R5 overheat?
Any time you have internal recording, there is an overheat risk. I find using this method in NON-RAW workflows, if you cut on Standby: Low Res, you can greatly expand the time you can shoot on your R5. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
My friend what tripod you're using in this video! It looks bad ass 😎 and thank you for sharing this valuable info!
Ha, ha. I am using a Manfrotto 645 Tripod with a Manfrotto 504HD Head. Have a great day!
Hello...Is there any way I can configure Canon R5 with Ninja V to shoot video in the Ninja V but still able to shoot stills in the R5?
But I think with the trigger command, we are limited to 30 minutes recording with or without memory card. Is that right ?
You are an absolute life saver! Worked perfectly on my R6! Was driving me crazy.
Hi! Thank you for these videos! I've gotten this to work on my r5 but I can't seem to do this on my R5c. any tips?
In Recording/Media Menu, go to Menu 4, make sure Rec Command and HDMI Time code are both set to on. Have a great day!
Hi . How can I switch off HDMI info off . I want to shoot video externally in Atmos and click picture in camera simultaneously. What I see that the exif details as well as my focus points are also being recorded in Atmos which I don’t want . Can you please help me
How do you CUT something on or off? I usually TURN things on or off.
Out of no where with my R5C the Ninja 5 plus quit connecting via HDMI. Any thoughts?
I don't have your camera, so I can't be 100% sure, but this usually is the result of an HDMI cable dying on you. Try switching HDMI cable first. If that doesn't work see if you can isolate which HDMI port could be compromised. Run a cable from you camera to a different HDMI device (even a TV can work). If you get a signal you know the camera HDMI port is safe. And also try the same thing into the Atomos.
The other option would be to make sure you are exporting a lower res HDMI signal from the camera. Good luck
I'm a Ninja V+ and R5 owner. Always excellent tips on your channel. I didn't realize you could simultaneously record on R5 and Ninja V+. So your tip allows you to both simultaneously record on both devices and initiate the recording by pressing one button on the R5. Is that correct?
That's right, Brent. This basically treats the V+ like an integrated part of the R5, so once you hit record on the R5, the V+ automatically starts recording too. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
I'm pretty new to video n have the r6 and am considering getting a ninja v as it is on sale. My main reason for wanting to record externally was encountering overheating when shooting in 4k. Wouldn't recording to both internal SD card and the ninja v just make the overheating issue worse for me? I thought one of the main benefits of getting an external recorder was to bypass this issue. I do not plan to shoot raw so does this mean I cannot record to ninja v only?? Sorry I'm a lil confused
I can't seem to view my playback on the monitor. for instance when i click the playback button, the ninja 5 says "no input"
If the Ninja doesn't trigger from the R6 does that mean the cable is not compatible? Most of the time when I turn on triggers in the Ninja, it's immediately starts recording on the Ninja without even touching the camera.
Having to have a card in the camera to trigger the HDMI recording completely 100% kills my reason for recording externally. Anyone know of a workaround?
Hi can anyone tell me when have external monitor plugged in on R5 can't playback on monitor and camera screen frozen so have to unplug hdmi cable makes monitor useless. Set the setting on R5 to playback on both but still nothing
Can tapping the Record on the atomos also trigger a record on the camera. The reverse of what the video addresses.
The HDMI signal can only go one way, so there is no way that I have ever heard of to trigger the camera from the Atomos. Have a great day!
Hello, i can’t click on HDMI Time Code / Rec Command(EXT REC) both options are Grey 😢
Can you record a low quality 4K to card and then a 4K HQ to the Ninja? So the camera doesn’t overheat?
Sorry Andy, that would be awesome, but the R5 only lets you do one at a time.
Like others, I assumed that recording internally and externally simultaneously would not resolve the overheating issue. What's your experience with this?
Any time you do internal recording in the danger zones (8K, 4kHQ, 4K/120) you run the risk of overheating. I have achieved unlimited recording times with an external recorder, but never with internal. That being said, if you are not shooting RAW, cutting on Standby: Low Res and shooting simultaneously will greatly increase your time before overheating. Thanks for the comment and have a great day.
@@DeafDirector Thanks for the reply.
Is 5k raw the highest resolution raw you can record externally with the R5 and Ninja V?
That's right. Have a great day!
But you lose screen touch AF when you use an external monitor non? How do you manage without? There must be a work around I don't know about because it's hard for me to believe so many don't care about losing AF. Or was I informed incorrectly and you CAN control AF on the external monitor like you did on LCD?
Thanks for the Tip. I just enable it. Q. is there a way to shoot 4K /120 to your Ninja V? I want to shoot a slow mo shot but can't seem to figure it out with my Ninja V.
Unfortunately, the R5 cannot export the 4k/120 up to the HDMI to the V+. This is a major bummer that I discovered when I got my V+.
One work around you can do is to film 4K/120 internally to your R5 and then playback the internal footage while externally recording the playback on your Ninja V.
@@Malick333 That's a nice little hack to get 4K/120 ProRes if you need it and have the time in the field. Thanks for sharing the tip. Have a great day!
Was searching for ways to trigger recording using the physical button for the longest time and this just pops up! :) Hm so there's no way to trigger 4k 60fps or other codecs WITHOUT having to record both to SD card and Atomos? If the SD card has to record, that'll make the camera overheat defeating the good use of the external recorder... :(
I got a great tip from one of my viewers, that may be a workaround for this. I will do some test and let you know soon. Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector any news on the workaround ?
@@DeafDirector Any updates on a workaround on this without having to have a card in the camera?
any update? @@DeafDirector
What's an example of needing to double record? I actually didn't like this feature when I first got it was automatically on.
This really plays a huge role on commercial or film settings. I have had cards fail in the past, which if I did not have a backup recording, would have cost tens of thousands of dollars to replicate what we shot. Painful experience has taught me that it's not a question of "if" a card will fail you some day, but "when.
The other benefit is that it could allow you to make on set proxies in real time, if that is something you need. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thank you for taking the time to reply. Very informative. I'll consider this for bigger projects.
I don’t think the dual recording works with the R6. I tried the setup you recommended and it only records to the Ninja.
You are triggering the ninja only using the camera record button? Thats a good thing!
I see your videos even about things I already know... I like grabbing each single small hint you give. I love your channel and please visit me in Cyprus when you want!
Ha, ha! That sounds like a plan!
Trigger has to be on… this took me an hour of research hahahaha
And camera stops recording at 29:59 Min right?
the HDMI options are now gone on the R5, following the 1.7.0 update. Now what?
Sorry but i dont really get why you would want to record on both internal and atomos? Isnt the whole point of the ninja to solve overheat and expensive sd cards (and larger monitor display of course)?
Seems totally counter productive to record on both systems.. each to their own of course but i dont get it.
Hey LJ, I do not use the Ninja as only an overheat and monitoring solution. The biggest reason to do this is in order to create safety backups of all the files in the field in real time. I do a lot of commercial work for higher end clients and some of them demand ProRes deliverables. This allows me to have backup recordings of everything, and not risk losing tens of thousands of dollars worth of footage if a drive or card goes bad, which (if you shoot long enough) is guaranteed to happen at some point. I also sometimes use the Ninja on my RED Komodo for the same reason, so I always have double backups of everything. Have a great day!
I’m using R5c with the Ninja V+ underwater with a nauticam housing. I would record in 4K 100fps internal and 50fps in external as a back up. But i need to find out why my HDMI Time Code and Rec Command EXT are grey i can’t click on them 😅
I am confused. I thought we didn't want r5 to record at the same time as the ninja v as it would overheat? No?oh I see it works with card out in raw. K great
You can do that. You just have to start the Ninja using its own record button. This is specifically about using the camera to trigger it.
Fake news! you can not record simultaneously on the sd card and on the ninja V with the r6. You can, but as soon as you hit record it will display the red record sign on the ninja v display. If you try to enable the camera + display setting in the r6 menu it will say "Device connected via hdmi is used instead of camera for menu display and image playback". It works only on r5. It is not working with canon r6 mark ii either, just tried.