Is Joel Embiid the Greatest Big Man Ever? I Off Guard with Austin Rivers
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2024
- Austin and Pausha discuss Joel Embiid’s 70-point, career-high game against the Spurs.
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Anyone who ask that question don’t know ball.
He had 70 against an awful Spurs team. David Robinson had 72 and he wasn't the greatest C. Embiid plays in a non big dominant era. Put him back in the 80's-90's against Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Smits, Mourning, etc etc and he prob looks really good still, but his defenders would match him better.
Bro. Embiid can shoot and dribble not one of the players you mentioned can do those things. He would cook the entire league even worse if he played back then. They would have zero idea how to guard him. He’s a center that shoots 90% from the ft line. Do you understand how insane that is? He has one of the best midrange games in the nba as well. While also being able to drive and eurostep and hop step defenders. And he’s faster than most centers. He’s literally the perfect build for an nba player.
Total click bait.
Stats do not equal winning.
I did not watch the video, the premise behind this segment is insulting to everyone's basketball intelligence
I came and disliked the video and read the comments, not watching this BS
A good team equals winning. No team that didn’t have depth ever won a ring. Unless they had Lebron and a couple other superstars. But other than that the whole entire team needs to contribute.
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
@@ChuckwaldMartinwho is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
@@sbkamara2003 ring check?
This is why NBA player podcasts are annoying… always overrating everyone, never any criticisms, never put things in context or reality
Jokic is better what do you mean? Embiid said so himself less than a week ago.
He was being a good person. If you would pick jokic over embiid your lying to yourself. That’s like picking Steve nash over Kobe.
@@sirfish9824 How ironic it is you saying Jokić is Nash, when Jokić won the title and finals MVP and Embiid's never made it past the 2nd round.
@@dimitrijetucovic1307who is leading in every category except assists and rebounds. Like come on man. Embiid is obviously the better player. Jokic couldn’t even guard Paul reed. And Paul reed is not even remotely used for his offense. Embiids the better defender by a mile and a better scorer by a mile. And if he’s better at both ends of the floor how the hell is jokic better?
@@sirfish9824 none of that means shit if he stinks in the playoffs
@@sirfish9824 You clearly don't know ball
I usually don't mind Austin but bro was just yappin here lol
He’s a hater. His dad got fired from the sixers so now he hates on embiid every chance he gets.
Bro Embiid isnt even the best big in the league let alone ever
Exactly.
This segment doesn't merit a single view.
Literally 😭
It made you click and comment. And they knew it would. Mission accomplished.
What I'm saying
They are hating on Wemby a little too much on this game. Embiid didnt go up against him the entire time... and Wemby had 33 points himself, one of his best games despite the fact he never plays even 30 minutes in any game.
How many rings does Embiid have? How many mvps?!
How many friggin conference finals-forget rings!
How many points did his bench score in the playoffs? Do you look at any other factors as to why he hasn’t made it past the second round? Or do you just look at embiid because you think he should carry an entire team while injured to a Championship? Like come on bro. You people are ridiculous. Jokic had the deepest team in the league last year. If jokic was on the sixers he’d be as good as domantis sabonis.
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
@@sbkamara2003 we will see if he even shows up-he usually doesnt in Denver.I don't mean he plays bad-he just wont play here-only has once. Jokic hit a game winning buzzer beater that night BTW. I work at the arena a few feet from where the visiting bus unloads,& I hope he actually actually shows up this time. But if I was an "Embied fan"-I'd care far more if he actually does something in the 2nd round of the playoffs-& actually steps foot in a conference final(let alone NBA Finals or win a ring)-since he never has yet-than what he does in a January regular season game or if he wins another regular season MVP.
We already knows he's great in the regular season-problem is he shrinks when it actually matters in the playoffs-at least to this point in his career. His Philly Sixers have basically been the Cowboys or Toronto Maple Leafs of the NBA. Great in the regular season-gaggers in the playoffs...& always in the 1st 2 rounds. Not like any of those teams ever make deep runs but just fall short in the end-they don't even get close.
@@sbkamara2003 "Wheres Embied?"...he just must be scared to play in Denver in front of our fans,& at altitude at this point...kinda like he looks scared to play in the 2nd round-granted not close to as scared as Ben Simmons vs Atlanta-lol. (Im kidding Philly fans-Embied has underachieved,& often shrinks in the playoffs but I dont really think hes scared-Simmons is/was.)We don't know about the conference finals or finals-since he never gets there! But give the JV Sixers,& coaching staff a ton of credit. Nuggets were awful,& clearly took them for granted with so many guys out. Nuggets fully deserved to lose today but thank God survived.
Reminded me so much of the game in November or December-when we beat the fully healthy Clippers in LA earlier this season-with Jokic,Murray,KCP,& Gordon out. It was maybe 5 or 6 games after they got Harden-whenever that was.(so at least they had a partially valid excuse of not having played many games together) But a win is a win-•at least we didn't lose it like the Clippers that day. But this is getting ridiculous with Embied-hes played 1 game here,& even the Philly fans at Ball arena yesterday were criticizing him,& said they were embarrassed he keeps ducking the game in Denver every year.
You do realize that they didn't have 3 pointers in Wilts era?
In Wilt's era, there was no offensive goaltending. He grabbed his own teammate's shots and layed them in the basket. In his 50 PPG season, this is what he did 80% of the time.
@@chili015 And players have never had more freedom then they do today.
@MrOctober44 - The 1960s had the most freedom. There were very little rules. There was basically only a shot clock, fouling out, 3 second violations, and other regular standards... but for the most part, it wasn't tightly officiated. Also, there was no double-teaming back then. Wilt consistently just laid the ball in without any contests. He didn't take jumpers or do some crazy fancy footwork to get his shots up, he just mostly stood under the basket and tipped shots in. It was the definition of freedom and why we'll never see anything like it again today. By the way, Chamberlain took 63 shots and 32 free throws in his 100 point game. From an efficiency standpoint, it was a good game, but not impressively great, especially when you consider none of those 63 shots were outside of 5 feet from the basket. Embiid's 70 points on 41 shots is way more impressive given today's athletes. And Embiid only made 1 three to do it, most of it was a crazy mid-range effort that you won't see duplicated very often.
70 pts, is 120 in Wilt days. Turns off the Pod.
The media agenda to hate Luka scoring 73 vs loving Embiids 70 needs to be studied.
No way you said the Bucks have a big 3 & the Sixers don’t. Tobias is literally averaging more than both Khris & Brook while shooting better from the field.
Insane glaze
The ringer has officially jumped the shark with the absurd click bait titles
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
The average center height now is like half an inch taller than it was back in the 60s. Wilt wasn't the biggest center of his era either. There have always been 7 footers in the league.
Better bigs: Bill, Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, David, Shaq, Jokic, Gilmore, Moses Malone, Bob McAdoo, Bob Petite, Dirk, Timmy, KG, and Parish. maybe Mikan, Issel, and Unseld.
I'm probably missing a few bigs that are better than Embiid.
Embiids better than all of them statistically. Shaq never averaged 30 a season. Jokic is a glorified domontas sabonis. Tim Duncan is great but not as lethal as embiid. Moses Malone is great but again embiid is more skilled and has better stats. Wilt could be better but there’s no way to know. Bill would have gotten absolutely fucked by embiid if he played today.
"Embiids better than all of them statistically." No. You need basketball-reference. Shaq was an unstoppable rim scorer and had some impressive playoff success. Jokic's facilitating is elite enough to vault over Embiid's value, and that's before factoring in the 2023 ring. Tim Duncan isn't as lethal as Embiid, but he's better. Defense is marginally more valuable than offense in the NBA. A great defender / good offender is better than a great offender / good defender. Malone is the greatest offensive rebounder of all time, statistically. Wilt was better, watch some film. Embiid wouldn't score well against prime Russell in Russell's own era. That's kinda the issue with dropping players into different eras.
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
@@willbot36bro the fact you said Embiid wouldn’t score well in bill Russell’s era makes me know how you don’t know what your talking about. Embiid would have averaged 100 points a game. No center was dribbling and hitting middys and fades back then. And embiid literally has better stats than every player you named. Embiids better at offense and defense than jokic.
So by this logic, Embiid's 70 up against a g league team is more impressive??
Those “g leaguers” are still way better in every way compared to Wilts days
"Off Guard" is so ass not even funny at this point
No. Next topic
Embiid needs 5-6 more years of good basketball + to actually perform in the playoffs but if he can do that and win a few titles it's going to be between him and Jokic for best big man of all time as Kareem, Shaq etc are just overrated.
I’m not watching this SHIT… this the type the video title/topic that damn near makes me wanna unsub and never listen to the ringer again….
I unsubbed, I was only subbed for J Kyle Mann videos anyways
Tate and Fousey know each other?
Not even close win a chip. Shaq all day
Don't do this
No.
lol he looked terrible today against Indiana. But sure, he's the GOAT even though he isn't 10% the player Jokic is.
Looked terrible and still had 31 points. Jokic literally gets outplayed by embiid every time they play so how the hell could he be better? You people make no damn sense. If I beat you in a game everytime we play how the hell are you better?
@@sirfish9824 Tomorrow's game will be amazing.
@@aron.gortmanyeah. I have zero doubt in my mind embiid wins again and out plays him.
@@sirfish9824 lol good luck with getting 14FTs in Denver. I see Denver winning in a complete blowout.
@@sirfish9824 That clown didn't bother to play today. What a loser.
Spurs defense stinks. + he hit FT's.
But embiid destroy the best defensive teams in nba Minnesota Timberwolves so what is your excuse he score 51pt on them
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.
I wonder if Bill is regretting hiring what could be one of the worst NBA analysts of all time in Austin. Need to get this type of clickbait garbage off the channel and send him to first take
who is ready for embiid destroy jokic head to head in Denver this Saturday. I know I'm ready as embiid emviip fan.