The Secret History of Twin Peaks Part 1 • Take The Ring vs Talking Backwards

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  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
  • Discussing the ins and outs of Mark Frost's The Secret History of Twin Peaks novel with the Talking Backwards Podcast. This video is Part 1 of a three-part series and primarily focuses on our introductions to the book by way of the series, first impressions and criticisms, a summary of the beginning chapters and some of the Easter Eggs found in the book.
    Listen to Talking Backwards (anchor.fm/talkingbackwards) wherever you get podcasts.
    Music by Marcus (pinnlandempire.com)
    Special thanks to John Bernardy for the Secret History book photos (25yearslatersite.com)
    Like, subscribe and share Take The Ring videos (takethering.com)!
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:41 Pat Stats
    01:07 Mr. Ring
    03:21 2014...
    07:15 Background
    08:58 What The Hell?
    11:11 First Impressions
    14:32 Mowing The Lawn
    15:59 Not A Novel
    20:42 World Building
    22:13 Easter Eggs
    25:05 Anything Is Possible
    27:16 Part 1 Wrap-up
    29:17 Credits
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Komentáře • 40

  • @scottlillard5066
    @scottlillard5066 Před 4 měsíci +12

    I’m so glad you guys take Mark Frost seriously. The idea that the original series would even have existed as it did with just Lynch is absurd. But man, so they make a great pair; that visceral intuitiveness David Lynch has, and that intellectual curiosity Mark Frost uses to ground it. Wonderful.

    • @thebasedgodmax1163
      @thebasedgodmax1163 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Frost contributed actually a lot more to the show in terms of penning episodes. Lynch was responsible for its weird style of course, but he didn't write most of the iconic scenes or dialogue. Frost is just as important as Lynch.

  • @EliRedman
    @EliRedman Před 5 měsíci +10

    The History of Twin Peaks is an amazing book. Five stars. As Mark Frost said in a tweet response to me once, it's an epistolary style book. Brilliant!

  • @batjutsu
    @batjutsu Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you all for this discussion. Great to be reminded of things, plus new things 💍🤩 💍

  • @AlisonIvy
    @AlisonIvy Před 5 měsíci +3

    Bravo!!!!! So great to see you all! And Dave’s distillation still rocks solid! So looking forward to the next episode. Thank you Jeremiah for your awesome work!

  • @PaulRWorthington
    @PaulRWorthington Před 5 měsíci +5

    Good discussion - I look forward to Pt 2!

  • @boblydecker5951
    @boblydecker5951 Před 5 měsíci +2

    It’s hilarious, right as I was about to comment upon my opinion of why Mark Frost included all of the historical elements in the first chunk of the book, it ends up being summarized quite eloquently by the guy in the lower left box. If there was ANYTHING that The Secret History did best, it was to show just how long the lodge entities have been around. I’m very grateful for that too, it lends a greater weight to the entire mythology. Being a super fan, for whom Twin Peaks is essentially RELIGION, all of this myth building was important to create a broader foundation, which culminated in Part 8; The GREATEST religious experience for any Twin Peaks fan!!! I’ll save my harsher criticisms of the book for the next videos. Believe me, I have a couple. Keep up the good work guys, looking forward to the next instalment!! 😀👍
    🏔🦉🏔

  • @scrollmadnessmedia
    @scrollmadnessmedia Před 5 měsíci +6

    🍿 Waiting 🎬

  • @bumrecordingstudios
    @bumrecordingstudios Před 5 měsíci +2

    Man this was such a great discussion. Kind thanks to all involved.

  • @ItsYourDistraction
    @ItsYourDistraction Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thank you, Mr. Ring.

  • @TheDas9582
    @TheDas9582 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I really enjoyed this book, and it’s 100 times better than Mark Frost's next book about Twin Peaks.

    • @TakeTheRing
      @TakeTheRing  Před 5 měsíci +4

      we'll be discussing that one too at some point

    • @scottlillard5066
      @scottlillard5066 Před 4 měsíci

      I enjoyed The Final Dossier, but it definitely wasn’t nearly as good as Secret History, and I think it’s because Secret History was probably something he really wanted to do for a long time, and The Final Dossier was a necessary evil that came up in some contract or whatever. It’s always a contract.

  • @cowbestthisisfiller24
    @cowbestthisisfiller24 Před 3 měsíci

    I feel mandatory books are Secret Diary and Final Dossier, Its like twin peaks 1.5 and 3.5 for me. I still love Secret History and the Diane audiobook tape thingy and My Life, My Tapes but FD and SDoLP is required viewing in my opinion. Great video!

  • @kjhansonkjhanson6643
    @kjhansonkjhanson6643 Před 4 měsíci

    Mark Frost must have been reading Joque Vallee and John Keel. Hope you mentioned that in part 2

  • @thebradc
    @thebradc Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great news ! Looking forward to it

  • @mykonine6095
    @mykonine6095 Před 5 měsíci

    Loved this so much! Can’t wait for part 2!

  • @ericrosler631
    @ericrosler631 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Really looking forward to part 2!!

    • @TakeTheRing
      @TakeTheRing  Před 4 měsíci +1

      comes out Saturday, Feb 24th Twin Peaks Day!

  • @Ottrond
    @Ottrond Před 4 měsíci

    I love James so much

  • @harmonicresonanceproject
    @harmonicresonanceproject Před 5 měsíci +1

    Look forward to it, thanks!

  • @MattMelon519
    @MattMelon519 Před 5 měsíci

    "It was weird". A Twin Peaks book? Weird? Shocker!

  • @scrollmadnessmedia
    @scrollmadnessmedia Před 5 měsíci

    and rewatching in multiple parts because it s looong 🍿 ⏰

  • @LadyGoggles
    @LadyGoggles Před 5 měsíci

    loved the conversation! i'm glad to know i wasn't the only one who said "uh, what the hell?" when reading it! hope to see more collabs in the future!

    • @TakeTheRing
      @TakeTheRing  Před 5 měsíci +1

      there will be 2 more parts to this talk and 1 (maybe 2) for our Final Dossier chat ♥

    • @LadyGoggles
      @LadyGoggles Před 5 měsíci

      @@TakeTheRing can't wait to see it

  • @Landon_Davis
    @Landon_Davis Před 5 měsíci +4

    bought this as a coffee table book. it’s very anti twin peaks of me to prefer to be spoon fed by your channel but i always prefer it

  • @xeganxerxes4319
    @xeganxerxes4319 Před 3 měsíci

    Do you know any good books on Twin Peaks?

  • @Investigate_Mermaids
    @Investigate_Mermaids Před 5 měsíci

    29:58 🤣 My favourite part

  • @mabonman
    @mabonman Před 5 měsíci

    Have you done / are you gonna do final dossier?

  • @jasonisjasondoes
    @jasonisjasondoes Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hurley must not have been forced to watch Charlotte's Web in school.

  • @catzilla1616
    @catzilla1616 Před 5 měsíci +2

    E-lec-tri-ci-ty

  • @user82938
    @user82938 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I also watched FWWM first and I don't regret it.

  • @gorehound3414
    @gorehound3414 Před 5 měsíci +3

    My issue is it makes the world smaller by answering too much mythology then leaving it open ended and in mystery like how it is in the show and movie.

    • @scottlillard5066
      @scottlillard5066 Před 4 měsíci +3

      But…part of the point was that it explains nothing and Milford spent his entire life chasing something that he eventually had to let go because so much of it was unknowable…I mean…were you reading it?

  • @UncleJamie
    @UncleJamie Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ruined by the music being too loud.
    Seriously, why do so many CZcamsrs make this same stupid mistake?

  • @happyclam1266
    @happyclam1266 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I thought this was going to add something new to the conversation. It does not.

    • @boblydecker5951
      @boblydecker5951 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I thought your comment was gonna make a difference.
      ………………… IT DID NOT!!!
      🤣