Why YOU NEVER Volunteer In War First
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War in general isn’t a pleasant place to be, however, it's quite clear that there are some jobs that are simply worse than others. While some soldiers may find themselves in unfortunate positions through direct orders of command, there are other roles that people have willingly volunteered for... and then discovered exactly why it was a terrible, terrible idea. Here are some jobs throughout military history you absolutely do NOT want to volunteer for.
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"I need 5 volunteers."
"what for, Sergeant?"
"I need 4 volunteers."
😂
“What did you say sarge?”
“Make that 3 volunteers”
😂😂😂😂literally how it works
😊
diidieidkdkkd@@macko1416
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You never want to be the first attacking wave.
Not true. Sometimes you volunteer to drive if it’s freezing and you know the vehicle has a heater. You just have to know where to play your hand.
Ah the first wave or first encounter dudes.
Poor dudes but a necessary sacrifice to move forward..
Something a person who was blown out of the sky by an alien spaceship after going to a secret research facility as a first respondent to an invasion of said aliens would of course know.
Isn't that right Mr. Shepard?
@@lampionmancz Being an MTF operative is worse.
Well, there is the chance of becoming a nobleman if you actually managed to breech the castle gate. Poor odds of surviving to achieve that though
Fun fact:
Half of this stuff he says "don't volunteer for" is not a volunteer position. It's punishment duty or part of a regular rotating duty that is passed among all members of a unit.
Latrine duty is rotated or is assigned as a punishment.
Night watch can't even be volunteered for - its on rotation so that day-time operations aren't hindered by a portion of your force constantly at risk of exhaustion
Yes, but it's not always like that, there are cases when they may suddenly allocate someone for another duty and they will ask around if anyone is willing to volunteer to take that person's shift plus your own.
@nyandesu9165
"No volunteers, eh? Alright, nyan, you are ordered to volunteer for this vital and thank you for your dedication to unit morale."
The phrase is *literally called* being "volun-told."
NAVY = never again volunteer yourself
Lived that...also, if you did a great job, the higher ups would get the recognition even if they never even showed up to the jobsite or even if they didn't know what was being done.
FTN
=P
@@daemon.mythos in any organization that has a complex structure of leadership, good results of a team are seen as the results of good leadership until proven otherwise.
😂😂😂
"We have reviewed your case and determined your injury is not service related...." 😢
Waiiit is this an actual thing like...my leg was blown off due to a bomb or something and they'd view it as not service related????
@@fryyiy1322 It's based on the fact they seem to try to get out of paying your benefits. 😂😢😢😂
@@fryyiy1322 yeah because essentially they are trying not to pay your claims so as to save the government money as if the government needs money to be saved. Troops are expendable that's the way they see it.
Countless veterans have been left destitute since the VA refuses to pay for medical treatment.
This is why the stereotype of the homeless population consisting of mostly old man hobos all being war veterans exists.
@@fryyiy1322Maybe not that extreme. If you get a leg blown off in combat, they can't really fight that. But for things like hearing loss, joint damage, respiratory damage due to asbestos and Agent Orange, etc, the VA will try to do everything they can to deny your claim and keep you under a certain percentage of disability. My dad is fighting it right now after serving our country in Vietnam. Thankfully there are a lot of resources now that try to counter the VA's bullshit.
In Chess you send the Pawns first♟ ♟ ☠️☠️
Wise words.
You can also send the knights too but yeah.
Knights are better equipped and have the option to retreat@@Textago
@@Textagoknights=modern cavalry 💀
Survival chance lower than infantry if sent first.
Second Rook.
An old Sgt told me, be first in the chow line, first in the pay line, and NEVER volunteer for anything. He also said, never stand when you can sit, never sit when you can lie down, and never lie down without copping some z's. Oh, and always eat all you can. When you can because you may not get another chance.
A lot of us have seen ‘The Pacific’ as well, buddy 😂
@@ismarwinkelman5648 I haven't but I'll laugh at plagiarism
@@ismarwinkelman5648bro really tried lol
You served with captain haldane? How cool.
@@ismarwinkelman5648Actually, my experience is real. 10 years in the Marine Corps. I learned from some salty NCOs. Unlike today's youth, whose life experience comes from pop culture and social media. As to The Pacific, I don't watch such stuff. I have seen the real thing, and no media can duplicate it.
Mustard gas would also cling onto uniforms so when a soldier went from a cold environment such as out in the trench, where the mustard gas is a light fairly harmless powder, to a warmer environment such as oh, say a bunker where it's nice and warm, chaos ensues. Upon warming, the powder reverts back to a gas thus causing casualties amongst the bunker dwellers. Nasty, insidious stuff.
On top of that it's my understanding that it was a more lethal response to the French implementing chlorine gas which was meant to maim; while mustard gas would also leave some lingering effects. I'm unfamiliar with the more toxic gases mentioned and always heard of mustard gas as being the deadliest in use at the time.
Damn I didn’t know about that. Scary stuff
@@derchozenvun83 The french first used tear gas. Gas warfare developed after that.
@@Trebor74 thanks, I understood that the French introduced gas warfare to the front in WWI and that the Germans went for a more direct approach that inevitably wound up being more a weapon of affliction than slaying despite the intent of its creation.
My friends dad volunteered to join the military during the Vietnam War. His draft number was pretty low so he decided to have a little more say in what branch he'd join and what'd he do. Because of this he was able to enroll in special forces training to become a green beret. He had to remain state side for a bit longer to complete his training and once his training was complete, the war was winding down and he was never shipped over seas.
Same exact thing happened to my step-father. He knew he was doomed when they pulled a super draft low number for his birthday (I believe it was #12), so he choose to volunteer instead, knowing he would get a much greater say in what he did and where he was deployed. Because of that he was able to showcase how smart of a young lad he was and ended up getting assigned to a (relatively) very comfy missile base in (what was at the time) Eastern Germany for the entire duration of the war. Crazy to think about what would have happened had your friend's dad and my step-dad not had the wisdom and foresight to volunteer instead of letting themselves get drafted...
Eastern Germany was Russian controlled at the time of the Vietnam War. I'm calling BS in this one.
@@WarentesterMaybe he meant Berlin. Surrounded by the GDR but still with allied bases
@@kaiserthescouser8067 That would still be West Germany. But this said, the United States Army Berlin had no missile base in Berlin.
How?
Thanks. I was debating it, but now i know that ill NEVER volunteer for WW1
How about WW2?
@@lieutenant8968Hell yeah. In the 101st Airborne Division
during my brief stint as a reservist, my section commander openly told me he didnt like me and if we didnt know where we were taking fire from, on exercise, it was me and my fireteam partner who were told to go first while everyone else would watch where we got shot from. good times?
Wtf????
☠ Hurt him back by saying, he's the weakest link himself and you'd never want to deploy with him
id tell him make sure i never get issued frag grenades
lmao god speed you magnificent man
let me guess.. a stray grenade enter his tent when he was sleeping?
The Marine Corps taught me never volunteer until you are voluntold 😂😂😂
Like conscription?
Haha 😂 right for sure ooorah
My grandfather (who was in the British Army) always told my father, who told me: "Never volunteer for *anything*." He knew that when somebody starts asking for volunteers, it is almost always for a job that is dangerous, unpleasant, or both. Why else would they have to try to find people to do it?
My father was a WWII combat vet Silver Saar Bronze Star and 3 Purple Hearts. When I joined USAF in 1972 he said never volunteer for anything. He said his unit had been in combat for weeks when they got to rest. The Lt. said we need volunteers for truck drivers. Lots of the guys said great and volunteered. Later my father saw them using wheelbarrows hauling dirt and rocks. These were the only storied my father told about the war.
wouldnt they just lose trust to the superiors if they got treated like that?
@@seanpaulmagbanua745 it's the military. You must not ever been in military. lol
The US government testing mustard gas on active servicemen and not continuing the long term research is a classic government move.
YOU want them to continue the research😳
@@johnumukoro1244 they didn’t follow through with the long term research. Due to the unpopularity of the program they essentially stopped conducting observations and allowed for the damage to the soldier’s health without gaining the most out of the research. I’m not saying they should have used more subjects, but rather follow through on the ones who were already tested on.
Bit of a mild one though, compared to what they did with those nuclear tests etc.
Mustard gas tests are not mild but yes they did worse with the nuclear tests or with what they did to everyone in the last years
Being a tunnel rat would be the worst. I think they wanted them to be 5’5” at the most? Thank god I’m 5’6”.
Thank god I'm full sized
I’m 6’ 2”, so I’d be out of that duty thankfully! All the power and respect to the soldiers who had to perform that task though 🫡 🇺🇸
Another Shorty L
@@kotzpenner sure, whatever you say man.
@@kotzpenner Taller people more likely to die than shorter people due to blood circulation and bone support.
The fastest way to clear a room in the army is for someone saying "I need 4 volunteers"
I was new out of basic training assigned to the engine room on an oiler in 1968. The NCOS thought they'd screw when they asked me to volunteer to look for some "shore line". It was 120 degrees in the engine room, but above deck, where I looked for the remaining 3 hours of my watch it was only mid 80s. When I went back they thought it was funny
I'm suffering chemical poisoning. "Oh we're sorry, here have a glass of milk, it will make you feel better."
Dairy fat actually cleans and heals the lungs, welders used to always drink a lot of whole milk to clean the lungs
Well, if I'm ever at Passchendaele during WW!, I'll make sure to not volunteer
you forgot . at the end and 1 after WW, you forgot your home keys at weed shop.
you welcom3:*
Knowing how military works, if they don't want you to sleep on duty, then they should let you sleep properly to begin with.
You don’t always get to sleep on a battlefield
@@user-hj4hg5cy6g Soldiers get rotated on a weekly basis even in the worst parts of the front in WW1, no excuse for making your troops sleep deprived when they've got a war to win
@@ReikerForge Forget rotation and sleep, Nazl scientist literally invented the captain America super soldier serum at the end of the war. Good ole Chocolate bar mixed with a improved recipe of Speed, Pure Columbian Chalk and rocks from Afghanistan. According to the old research this stuff will having you running 40 miles in four hours while carrying 40 kilos (80 pounds) of gear.
@@user-hj4hg5cy6g Yes, but only once....
good luck mate, have enjoyed watching your content for quite some time!
The first time that mustard gas used in combat wasn’t in Ypres in 1917, as stated in the video. It was during the second battle of Ypres in 1915. What you guys mentioned is the third battle of Ypres and by then mustard gas had been used quite a lot of times. Should take more time double-checking these things, being a history channel.
The first use of mustard gas was in 1917, 1915 was the first use of chlorine gas and poison gas in general. I don't know why, but if you google "first use of mustard gas" all of the sources talk about the first use poison gas in general even though you asked about mustard gas specifically, and they don't even say that they are talking about chlorine gas so it's easy to get it mixed up with mustard gas since that's what you looked up. You have to actually click the links and read the articles to realize that they are talking about chlorine gas instead of mustard gas.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_gas#History it says "Mustard gas was first used in World War I by the German army against British and Canadian soldiers near Ypres, Belgium, "on the night of July 12, 1917.""
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK236059/ it says "As outlined above, prior to the actual use of sulfur mustard as a war gas in 1917, the substance was little more than an interesting compound produced,"
These were the first 2 sources about mustard gas that I checked.
Excellent work dudes!!
Don't be first, never be last, and never volunteer for anything!
What if others comment after you
04:41 in combat/war you have to take shifts on night duty, this is called 'Stag'
00:14 they kept on doing this until recent eras called 'Forlorne Hopes', meaning 'Abandoned Hope' because there was no/little chance of survival
correction: first use of poison gas (chlorine gas) was in the second battle of ypres in 1915, not 1917.
He never said poison gas was first used in 1917. He said specifically mustard gas was.
@@owenpook2262"using weapons LIKE mustard gas" I took that as gas in general. Would be a weird phrasing if he specifically meant mustard gas. But to be fair to you and the video, after listening to it again, I'm splitting hairs
This was a very interesting video, well done Simple History. That's why some soldiers considered volunteering for these duties because they were either deadly or simply unpleasant. It also pains me of the suffering those people went through and how it affected them for the rest of their lives😔.
Instructions unclear now im yellow and somehow working in a latrine in 1916 in france.
Im 💯 % sure this video thumbnail is based on the scene where Blythe got shot when he volunteered to scout the farmhouse at the tv series Band of Brothers!
I read this somewhere probably a WW2 US Army quote:
Never volunteer
Never be the first
Never be the last
Unlike as shown in show, he actually survived the shot and went on to live a long life.
@@ghost28896long life is a bit of an overstatement. He served in Korea after the war but died in the mid 1960’s to my knowledge
yeah, then you still gonna die for sure.
@@ghost28896 he lived a mid life.
Age 44, Albert Blithe died in 1967 while on active duty at Germany due to a perforated ulcer.
What happened on the tv series is most easy company guys have not been in touch with Blithe since he got shipped off due to his injury. So most likely they thought he died.
Also a fault on the writer of the tv series as well for not fact checking with the Army if he really died. Atleast we know he lived on as an Army man till the end. RIP Albert!
@@ghost28896 unless you want to live on with long term disfigurements
Average Japanese Kamikaze:
'First time?'
Whos asking them?
@@RussianNationalist the ones that had "engine problems" on the first run.
@@jpowens2253Or couldn't find a suitable target before fuel levels became too low. Even these extra-expendable pilots were deemed too valuable to simply waste.
I learnt 75% of history from Simple History. Thank you.
thats sad
I have not so fond of my CO regularly walking in and saying "I need 3 volunteers, You, You, and YOU. Let's GO!". WE didn't volunteer for nuttin'!
Nice touch with the subtle movie references at the beginning of this clip.
Could you do a video on the Irish Brigade or the Royal Catholic Army of Vendée France; both have interesting and extensive history
Ernst Jünger: “Lol. Lmao, even.”
6:16 the Connaught rangers I recognise the cap badge as I own an original
Simple History can you a video on the worst military despots in history.
I never volunteered for anything but i was voluntold quite a bit.
0:18 yet in every movie the main actor is always the one to climb first while also magically coordinating the whole platoon somehow
Probably because it makes for some quite unheroic scenes if the so heroic protagonist is sacrificing his own people to ensure his own safety in battle.
I’d volunteer for AWOL
I remember watching as a kid "The Greatest Tank Battles in History" on Discovery. The show featured context explanation, 3D battle animation, and it was told not from the POV of generals, but common soldiers, who were guests talking themselves. To this day I remember what one American or Brit said: "I've learned that #1 rule in war is to NEVER volunteer for anything. You get an order, then you do it, but as long as it's not an order, always refuse, no matter how trivial or safe it seems".
More or less like that.
That was the first thing I picked up on in basic lol I use to be back head down and all allowing the high speed soldiers do the dirty work like it was going to get them anywhere lol Good times
I remember being in crap situations and they would ask volunteers. I always did thinking it would be better then the current situation. It never was and I never learned lol.
This reminds me of Tanya the devil where she send some nobles to a „safe” observation post.
They were happy to be going there - until the enemy artillery killed them all as easy targets.
Army joke: Captain received news that Pvt Kowalski's mother had passed away. The Captain and his Lieutenants talked about how they should tell him. They decided it best that the First Sgt should do it. Off he went and he gathered the platoon. The First Sgt had everyone fall in. The First Sgt said "Everyone who has a mother raise your hand". Then said "Not you Kowalski"
Read about the Edgewood Experiments. Happened in Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland.
When i was younger in school, i saw my seniors watching simple history. And as a young junior, I hoped that would happen to me too, but it uh never happened sadly.
4:15
Speaking of which....
This rarely ever gets mentioned when history is talked about.
First guy: “I’m not going out there.”
Second guy: “I’m not going out there.”
Third guy: “I’m not going out the- oh. I’m last. Well, god preserve me.”
In fact, I would volunteer. What do you prefer, fighting with someone who wants to fight or with someone who doesnt want to?
My dad says the same thing. He was a CO in ‘Nam.
"War's tragedy is that it uses man's best to do man's worst." - Harry Emerson Fosdick
A couple of years ago I mixed cleaning products while doing the bathroom. I realised i shouldn't have done that quickly enough and flushed the toilet and left ASAP, but now I'm paranoid that I might devellop something. But I went to the doctor, asked about it and told me not to worry, that if something should have happened, it would have been more inmediate, but she even checked my resporation, but still, I'm paranoid
You should never start a war first
You literally have the Isreali flag as yout profile pic 💀
Tell that to Putin...
You also wouldn’t ever want to be a tunnel rat or other similar job in a confined space I would think, love the vids, keep up the good work!❤❤
Like the phrase goes: 'Every rule/warning have its history'. Volunteering,especially at war, is something you should do only when you are very, very, sure what you are getting into. Especially if it's involve government stuff.
0:06 Saving Private Ryan
"he(she) needs some milk"- meme should have popped up somewhere at around 7:35!
My great great grandfather said about the great war you don't volunteer for different places you are needed like night watch or something else. If you refuse. You get shot, or if lucky enough you had to crawl on no mans land to place mines or do things
Yeah, in my time in service, we didn't have volunteer. We had voluntold!!
Hey can you please make a video of the gun truck of vietnam war please and thank.
It’s a matter of respawning in a closer place
If they Come to my country i'm signing up straight away
I was just talking about NOT volunteering to a new(er) nurse on my unit, who 'volunteered' for temporary charge nurse. Never volunteer!
The Australian and New Zeland nurses were tough as nails in WW1 and WW2
I volunteered to go get water when we did an assault. Nearly got blown up for it.
The Forlorn hope 😬
Did anyone else get a Frenchs mustard commercial durring the mustard gas part? 😅
I've never been here this early before
NCO: I need 3 volunteers
Soldier: What for
NCO: Ok I need 2 more
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. Either there's volunteers, or there'll be "voluntolds"...
@08:48 Honestly considering the sheer level of destruction and death, only 128 nurses dying in WWI shows how chivalrous the sides were when it came to targeting Healthcare
Can we please acknowledge how much more advanced this guys animations have gotten
You never want to be in GTA5 Online 10Th Wave gang attack
" I could take a walk on the wild side sir" - Ray Phillups 2003.
Can you make a video on John rabe or Oskar Schindler, I feel like they are neglected for their humanitarian acts of saving thousands of lives during WW2 and their selflessness that were demonstrated in doing so.
The way the decorated that black guys house 🤣 they gone do my boy like that?
If you ever hear a knock never open the door, if you do make sure you have a beer in your hands or else you’ll be sweeping the barracks hallway
How do you make videos like this?
Hi ive been watching I was 5 and now im im 3 days two my 13th Birth day thank you for teaching me all of this history
My great grandfather fought the Japanese in the Philippines and sadly died there..! BUT; not before he left behind my great grandmother with a family of 14 that’s multiplied into the 100s now , all the men who never made it back would do it again in a heartbeat if they were to see the fruits of all their sacrifice!!
"Hey, Beckett! You said we are going to pull a quick job!"
I’d fall for the night watch.
Before I went to Navy boot camp I was told to never volunteer for anything in the military. They want volunteers because no one else wants to do it.
Most practices in this video are no longer in use in current day war zones
Great, Great Uncle was in WW1, enlisted and was a Sapper. Survived the war, was hospitalized 6 times for gas shelling. Spent two weeks on furlow in Liverpool. England and returned two weeks later. Reason for discharge: Demobilization
Some armies in the middle ages & Antiquity there was a bounty paid for the first man up the ladder. If you survived, its yours. This made the men want to be first & to fight like a maniac once you drop in. The odds of the first guy on the wall surviving aren't good. But they aren't good for the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th either. So if you are in the first wave, it was best to be first, because if you lived you got a big reward.
My childhood friend and I has the following artituse. 'Nwvee volunteer for anything unless you know EXACTLY what you're volunteering for.'
I served in navy and one thing navy and marines have taught me is don’t do anything unless told too 😂 of course volunteering is better than draft because you pick what MOS you want and a chance to go where you want too
The volunteers are the Ines where us generals are still developing ideas on what works and what doesn't. 3 or 4 years into a war is when the generals have been properly chosen or have developed a decent understanding in not wasting troops. Battle of somme human wave tactic. Another example would be the soviets before zhukov was appointed command of the main army.
dont volunteer to test mustard gas, ahh man i was just about to sign up, lucky i saw this video it seemed like such a good idea.
00:23 guys, can you remind me which movie this scene in?
1917
Night watch is the only role I'm fit for. Exceptional low light vision and hearing. My only problem would be staying entertained without being distracted.
In a perfect world, the children of leadership and politicians would require to serve first in any major conflict or declaration of war. That of course would never happen, thus is the world.
Stalins son was captured. The Germans offered to trade him and Stalin refused. His died in custody in Sachsenhausen camp. So it doesn’t necessarily work.
@@robplazzman6049 Oh man I remember that story from history class! Yeah…cringe…….
as a certain gentleman once said "either I'm the first one out or it wont be my problem anyway" a very disgruntled CPL.
"Never, ever volunteer for anything is my rallying cry." - the Specialist's Creed
I have 5 kuds they won't let me sign up.
We need those who go first there the real ones you want around you
Night watch would be perfect for me, I'm like a mega night owl
😂😂😂😂😂
Like me
😐 guys, This is my 5917 night on night watch, I'm not gonna make it (28373 days later) 😐
Until a massive attacking wave comes 🫥