Liverpool 2 Nottingham Forest 1 09/04/1988 FA Cup SF
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- Brief highlights of the 1988 FA Cup semi final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest. 2 John Aldridge goals gave Liverpool victory, with Nigel Clough scoring for Forest.
Not the easiest watch given the venue. Justice for the 96. - Sport
John Barnes made me love football. 87, 88 and 89 he was probably the best player on the planet.
As a kid I learned from them and the way he played. Him and Beardsley. I was a good young player but they both 100% made me into a better one.
Barnes in full flow, worth the admission fee alone
Barnes really had an exquisite left foot , on par with Maradona. I run out of superlatives describing this player. What a baller he was...
You are absolutely right about that.
Even a year earlier the back end off goal is really full and almost crushing fans
u shud watch the documentary "the hillsborough ripple effect"......u wont get it on here anymore tho......
it wasn't an accident - very much the opposite in fact
@tiarnan - would you care to elaborate? Are you just confirming that the deaths were caused by gross negligence manslaughter, as per the inquest verdicts?
@@DaveWallerLFC no this was pre meditated murder - search for hillsborough 1981 (u'll get it here) - then watch the doc - I wont need to elaborate after that
Im assuming you know why they gave Liverpool fans that end 2 years running?
@@DaveWallerLFC if you cant find the doc online I'll send you a link....
@@tiarnan76 I watched a bit but it feels like conspiracy theory stuff that it was caused deliberately. Clearly many people benefitted financially from the changes that happened to football after Hillsborough, but I didn't see evidence here that would in any way prove that this led those people to engineer a disaster. There has been a vast amount of investigation into Hillsborough by people like Phil Scraton, uncovering the failings of the police, Sheffield Wednesday, the ambulance service etc, but nothing to suggest deliberate complicity. If he didn't find it, I don't believe it exists. Certainly it was in many people's interest for the incompetence and negligence of those reponsible for safely to be covered up, which certainly happened, via smears of the fans from the outset. But to say those people actively and deliberately caused the disaster doesn't feel credible. Given that I don't have time to watch the full 1.5 hours, particularly as it contains unnecessarily graphic footage from the day, is there specific evidence I might have missed that makes you believe it was deliberate?
How good was Barnes. One of the greats
When Liverpool heard that their SF game was again to be played at Hillsborough the following year, they had already complained about serious crowd congestion at that game & wanted it to be played elsewhere. The request was refused, with catastrophic results.
A Liverpool fan wrote to the FA after this game complaining about the intense crushing that happened on the leppings lane terrace. He said that his umbrella broke in 2, it was that crowded. The actual capacity of the 2 central pens was 1,600-1,800 not the 2,100-2,200 that was said. So 400-600 extra tickets were sold for the 2 central pens that shouldn’t have been. That’s why it was always uncomfortable in there. All it took was a police commander who didn’t know what he was doing and you saw the results of that the following year.
For all-ticket Sheffield Wednesday matches they held back hundreds of tickets for that end as they knew the capacity wasn't safe. For a semi-final this wasn't possible for some reason. Tickets weren't sold for specific pens, and a proposal to have individual turnstiles for each pen was rejected a few years earlier as too expensive. The police are rightly given the majority of the blame for what happened a year later, but a ground requiring police intervention to avoid a fatal crush in the centre pens because of its flawed design should never have been used for big matches. A ground with no current safety certificate and countless near misses even less so.
@@DaveWallerLFC I've seen pictures of the ground before it was redeveloped for the 1966 World Cup, when Hillsborough was chosen to stage some games. The Leppings Lane end pre-development for that had a capacity pretty much the same as the kop opposite. Part of the development was to build a stand with an upper seating area at Leppings Lane, thus much reducing standing capacity which would soon cause problems. All the rest is known.
I don't see how reducing the capacity caused problems. The problems were with the turnstiles and the layout within the ground.
@@DaveWallerLFC Have you seen pictures of the Leppings Lane end before redevelopment for the World Cup? It looked a lot safer back then & in truth should have been left alone.
As I grew older, I always got confused between this SF and the 1989 one regarding the goals. Kind of haunting watching the very same stage of the cup at Hillsborough and the very same two teams, a year prior. It's interesting reading some of the comments here that this was basically a disaster waiting to happen.
The very worst part is that everyone was asleep at the wheel. They had played there 5 times at the same stadium in the 80's and every time there was either a crush or overcrowding concerns. Each time they got a ignored and essentially a big middle finger to the fans. This didn't need to happen and a whole bunch of factors just made the disaster waiting to happen which it did the next year.
I was there 14 year old Liverpool 8 boy
The warning signs about the leppings lane end of hillsborough were clearly there the season before. From 3:02....You can see how packed the leppings lane end was. Why wasn't old trafford picked for the semi final a year later?...
No one came through side gates no one died this game. Was overcrowding in pens every weekend. Police crambed fans in 2 pens when they could have had more space in 3 pens
They closed the tunnel leading to the central pens in 1988. If that had been done in 1989 before opening gate C no one would have died.
Or even Elland Road could have been an option
@@rajnirvan3336 nope that was too small as well
@@nikreece6295 what about Villa Park
Did Shilton ever save a penalty....?
The Forest keeper was Steve Sutton. Peter Shilton did save some penalties. Only 2 according to this website (www.transfermarkt.com/peter-shilton/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/101383), but I don't think it's accurate as it doesn't include one against West Genrmany in an international friendly in Mexico in 1985:
czcams.com/video/uwdwGi1Ae1A/video.html
Shilton wasn't in goal!
he probably did but he wasn't in goal in this game!
It was Bob Bolder lol
It was Steve Sutton.