Guys I hear what you are saying about saliba and his ceiling but he was asked about Real Madrid links in a post euros tournament and his quote was “they can buy me on fifa” so let’s have some faith that his love for this club is motivation enough for him to drive our team to the major trophy’s
yeah cool. how many players in the past have said things like this and leave eventually, when they realise that they aren't getting what they should. Saliba knows he is world class, if Arsenal aren't winning anything, he will eventually leave.
English media criticising Jude but praising their poster boy Foden, who had absolutely no contribution, is telling. Kane as usual getting away with a horrendous showing
so is rice...he is at the heart of problem. slow build up, no transition, no guile, no vission...declan sideways was England's worst player in this tournament. if saliba gets injured and we don't sign a proper midfielder this season, we are going to see same at Arsenal...first half of last season is the proof
Sareth Gouthgate was just cooking! He had a pot, water boiling and just chucked in the best ingredients he had then, just waited. Chin resting on hand, he decided to test the mix. Its not good. He forgot the salt, the pepper and tho its too late, he added it in at the end hoping...it will be fine. It tasted wrong but it was so close to being great 😢
Lee makes me laugh, in the saliba chat “it’s not about trophy’s anymore” then 10 seconds later, “it’s about winning the league and champions league on regular occasions”
Big up the panel I watched every one last season missed the last couple due to the passing of my father and watching this has made me smile and laugh. Love this podcast and keep it up
To be fair I think it’s completely plausible. Obviously I don’t want that to happen but he’s not a local boy and we didn’t treat him great for a couple years. Real Madrid is the pinnacle and the biggest club in the world. It’ll be very difficult for him to turn down in years to come. But of course I hope he stays im just pessimistic.
@@divyanshujha7314 Coming online and saying things that didnt happen just makes you look like the massive 🛎 🔚 you clearly are. Best of luck in your keyboard battles kiddo ✌️
As a football fan, not English, I remember World Cup in South Africa. The wibe in England was as usually in all tournaments: thousands of lions in a country, flags "its coming home" all over the streets, media, pundits telling "it's time to deliver". But then it all finished very quickly and badly...and streets became empty suddenlly. That's why I agree with James, that maybe Southgate got unified England fans, got them hopes to be again proud of their team on international level, hoping to really win Euros. I only witnessed South Africa campaign.
Communication is not only key on the field but off the field also, clearly Jordan needs to work on it with his GF because surely you must inform her youre doing a podcast 😂
I overall like Jude. I liked the it's always me celebration. But I agree with Lee, his attitude when he thought he was being subbed off was abit eh. As if he thought he was untouchable.
Rice play with the handbrake on, he might be having fear of making mistakes if he play a forward pass. Arteta will unlock him this season so that he starts dictating the game. I think keeping Thomas Partey this season will be better for Rice to learn from.
Bellingham is superb player and justifiably confident in his abilities, hence not only going to Real Madrid, but see what he has done in his first season at the biggest, most pressurized club in the World! But Jordan he has got a narkey side to him, I saw a clip yesterday, he's playing for Dortmund, there's break on and the midfielder gets the pass 1m short to Jude, he throws a strop, waving arms shouting at the player for the bad pass, then you can clearly see him saying the player was $**t! I've never seen a player shout out to his team mate on the pitch, during a game, for the cameras to relay and the fans to hear, that he was $**t! Also when he scored that overhead kick to rescue ENG, he says to the fans, "Who else!". In other saying to his team mates, none of you could have done this. Guarantee Watkins, Toney, Saka, Palmer could have done that techique.
Declan Rice was a DM, I agree with Turkish, dunno what the criticism was for. Creating chances is not his job. Just because Rodri does everything doesn't mean everyone should. Rice is one of the best at breaking up play, he is a destroyer type player. Going forward is not his purpose. Rodri is a rare type.
Id say Wilshere is the English player produced thats most like the Spanish type midfielders The way he used to manipulate the ball, low centre of gravity, could dribble, short sharp passes. He for me more so than Scholes
Gotta do a pod on how much longer can are star players go without winning, I really don’t want to fall short in a title race again this season imagine how the players are gonna feel; Saliba especially but Saka also
@01:17:58 Turkish asking "Jordan, did you see the thumbnail?" Jordan: "Some one put it in the group, some one sent it to me". Which translates to "I didn't see the whole thumbnail, but I did watch the highlights of the thumbnail".
Countless exciting options on the bench for the final and just the usual bluuurgh from Southgate. Real Madrid’s hottest property gave his best showing by screaming at Southgate to change it! Yes that was his best showing.
I see the value of Jordan now. There needs to be someone contrarian in the group so that the podcast can go on for an hour +. He takes all the bullets only for the sake of the podcast. He doesn't actually believe anything he says.
Also with England this tournament it seemed as soon as we go a goal down we would always ramp it up and get a goal even against Spain and if there was another 10-15 mins left after their second I think we would have ramped up again and scored a second, I don’t understand why we could do that at 0.0 instead of boring football, it was a terrible tournament but the best team won, Yamal should have had 2 goals in that final so 2.1 was flattering
Hey guys sorry for the late comment had watched this when it came out but I have an idea for you guys to do a 2023/2024 season review game by game before we start the next season. Like talk about it game by game and what was learned and what changed in the following games and etc. some games can be skimmed over but like the arsenal season review but from your eyes. Much love from Uganda. Jordan, Lee, James, Turkish. Big up. Love this podcast. Will comment again on the next episode. 😅
Here’s a stat regarding English managers, since the start of the premier league there hasn’t been one English manager to lead their side to a title, Scottish is the closest, we are so depleted in top managers from here it’s hard to see us winning at international level but I hope I’m wrong 😑
The perception -in seems to me- is that someone will now come in and get England 'over the line' to win a tournament. These are/were salad days - I think it dissipates from here moving forward for England.
Social media tells a different story with the Calafiori deal. I think it has been dragging for too long and it seems like we don't want to offer the payment structure that Bologna want. I have a feeling the deal might not happen.
@@FootballAndSuch I wouldn't go that far. England has always had good players, Keegan, Brooking, Hoddle, Barnes, Gascoigne, Shearer, Owen, Rooney, etc, but so have other teams. If you come from a generation that only watched live the last decade, it's understandable to a degree, but if you're complaining about coming second, considered when they failed to qualify for the 1974, and 78 World Cup finals. 1970 to 1982 was a really long time.
On the Ben White situation I think the next England manager pulls him aside and clears the air, explains the plan and Benjamin is reintroduced. Agree with Turkish.
Rest of the panel laughed at Lee for saying Saliba was sitting on his beach as if it was an outlandish comment. You can own private sections of beach, my friend's family owned some in Italy.
The problem for me is that fans and pundits sell themselves on the idea of a sportsmans credentials. When they're proven wrong they will throw said player under the bus. When the truth is they should be criciticed for having no semblance or rationality when accessing players actual abilities. Ill be honest i dont think Saka is exceptionally skilled or a great crosser or passer of the ball, but what he is...he has good mental strength, is fairly strong on the ball, can finish and makes good runs. He is what he is, no more no less. Thats my point...take players as they are not how you percieve them. Rice is what he is, he's an exceptional ball wining 6 if you want a ball winner. He's no more than that though. This idea hes an 8 is highly questionable for me. Where his ability to score or particularly good passing range to create if you're not a goak scorer? It doesn't exist with Rice. He can advance foward but he always goes square. Im not slating him because i rate him. He just is what he is though.
Look at man city and Liverpool, it’s hard for Real Madrid to get the biggest players because of the cost of these players which are just too high! As long as we are competing these players are here to stay!
@@JackBowyer-rn1py hey so when there’s an ‘s’ at the end of a word that means it’s plural. Plural means more than 1. We have 3 away games against teams in the top 5 for last season, hope this helps
@@joshhenry2389 I didn't ask for an English lesson. I asked is Wolves at home a difficult game? FYI, FA rules state every club has to play every other club twice in an EPL season Hope this helps...
Sorry Jordan, individually, based on talent and club form, we do have the best squad. Maybe it doesn't work as a team but as talent we definitely do. Which is why the performance are so disappointing
Rice done his job. Its just the players infront of him was negative. No movement which means. He had no options to go forward. U cant blame him solely for the teams mistakes. English mentality stops us from doing possesion based. Got the technique. But not the mentality
Turkish’s take on the short break is ridiculous. People are more than bodies, they have to get into the right mindset and they need to physically recover. Do you know how many athletes we see in hospital with crazy injuries from lack of rest?
Southgate should have changed his back room staff after the first euro final loss, for a more attacking coaches. Alex Ferguson changed his back room staff to freshen things up and move forward with new ideas and styles. So for me I blame him for not changing things after they went wrong against Italy ! You don’t need back room staff that just tell you your doing the right things, when obviously your not ! You don’t want yes men you want people to show you a better way to develop a better style of play !
Turkish saying we have to win is more him than the club or the majority of the fanbase imo. Yes I want us to lift trophies but we are challenging again, which is more than we've done for 12 years. Stop being greedy my G lol
When people say "boring" football, they mean not creativity and no imagination. Southgate doesn't have that, it's not his fault, he just hasn't got the tools to play modern, progressive, football. Either in possession or on the counter attack. When you take it all into consideration, what he started with when he took over to what he's walking away from, he's definitely left things in a better state than he inherited.
Why does jordan always bring up race ? Bellingham is mixed race not just black. Look at his parents. I would say Kane has had the most criticism. Jordan needs to lose the chip on his shoulder.
Once again, we can trust Lee to call it out and speak straight! Kneelgate's tactics threw away that Euro20 final v Italy. Then brings on 2 young players to take PENS, who didn't even kick the ball yet. Fair play to Saka for not letting that whole experience get to him and his game. Get lost Jordan about Kneelgate is a leader, just because you've met him and he's a nice guy, so what! After the 1st dreadful Euro game, he pines for his 'Kalvin-Comfy' blanket, that's some leader you got there, or you've rewritten the definition of that very word. You sound like a member of the FA manager appointing commitee. What trophy did his touch-feely-kneely media PR get the team/country? And that's despite having 3 back2back spookey-Flukey draws and a home final, with a packed roaring Wembley. If he was this leader you say, why was a clearly unfit, grossly underperforming Kane played in every game? Looks like Kane was the leader, as no of the Elite managers would've put up with that version of Kane, especially with Watkins & Toney getting splinters on the bench. Venables is the last ENG manager that took the team to the max, gallantly & narrowly loosing to PENs to a great German team, who won it. 28 flipping years ago! Then 34yrs back to Robson.
THE REASON PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH EXCITING STYLE OF PLAY FOR ENGLAND IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXCITING PLAYERS AND WE SEE THAT IN THERE CLUB TEAMS! Duuuuuuuhhh! Jordan!
To continue selling the project you have to have results(trophies) otherwise players will eventually stop believing and check out.Liverpool won the league and the Champions league and that proved to players that Liverpool was the place to be.
England hve good quality players they know hw to win international frindelies , tournaments ,but their problem is to get over the line like my arsenal that is big similarities to overcome both of them
Talking about Englands team selection is pointless. They got to the final and was managed poorly. Why take another lb Shaw was fit for the final. Why take maguire? Our defense was fine. The only issue was how he managed the squad he had at his disposal
Jordan just likes to arggue. We didnt have a betyersquadback when...... Everyone, U included, has said this is thebest SQUAD ever. The 1st 11 maybe..... this guy says anything to be different......
Around the 31 minute mark you guys are so on. I grew up in Jam. supporting German football from age 8 and always argued with the English supporters that England had one world class mid who gets into any team in all its years. Scholes. Jamaica which has the England DNA has the same issues today. A dearth of Midfielders who are as strong defensively and offensively. Yet you hear and see the call for and attempts to play 4:3:3 With what?!!! Southgate set up his team to force Spain back in the finals. I've always found that thinking faulty - to play offense as defense against an ultra attacking team. It never works. Its fire against fire but the greater fire will always win. Four mids ( 3 attacking profile) and your 3 CBs are 1:1 90% of the time. That's laughable. That's being in a worse position than starting straight up honest (4 back). I became an England fan after WC 2014. The squads have been used poorly, without trust of everyone. These modern English players are playing in the top clubs in the world. Let any of them go play. England will win. Need a style of play, needs legitimate midfield presence/control. You have those players to the wazoo in the academies now, in youth level. Find the coach.
Lee is an absolute legend! But I really want to see him pot a few balls on that table. Can't wait for this show all season long.
Love 4 the love
Guys I hear what you are saying about saliba and his ceiling but he was asked about Real Madrid links in a post euros tournament and his quote was “they can buy me on fifa” so let’s have some faith that his love for this club is motivation enough for him to drive our team to the major trophy’s
No he said that about Newcastle 6 months ago
Spreading fake news.
yeah cool. how many players in the past have said things like this and leave eventually, when they realise that they aren't getting what they should. Saliba knows he is world class, if Arsenal aren't winning anything, he will eventually leave.
@@user-yp1hb3eu8n he’s part of the team tho he’s one of the players who are on the pitch who’s job it is to win us the trophies
English media criticising Jude but praising their poster boy Foden, who had absolutely no contribution, is telling. Kane as usual getting away with a horrendous showing
That's a lie.
100
so is rice...he is at the heart of problem. slow build up, no transition, no guile, no vission...declan sideways was England's worst player in this tournament. if saliba gets injured and we don't sign a proper midfielder this season, we are going to see same at Arsenal...first half of last season is the proof
@@kevina2365No its not
Jude arguably the most overrated footballer in the world
Sareth Gouthgate was just cooking!
He had a pot, water boiling and just chucked in the best ingredients he had then, just waited.
Chin resting on hand, he decided to test the mix.
Its not good.
He forgot the salt, the pepper and tho its too late, he added it in at the end hoping...it will be fine.
It tasted wrong but it was so close to being great 😢
Jordan if you have to blow your nose, turn the mic off not the camera
Both would be great
@@jamesjustice21 nooo! I want to hear more race-baiting victimhood bullshit!
That is why Jordan is so dumb!
Lee makes me laugh, in the saliba chat “it’s not about trophy’s anymore” then 10 seconds later, “it’s about winning the league and champions league on regular occasions”
Part of me wants Jordan to show up to a random game in the states without telling everyone beforehand… “surprise mf ”😂
Big up the panel I watched every one last season missed the last couple due to the passing of my father and watching this has made me smile and laugh. Love this podcast and keep it up
May his gentle soul rest in peace ameen, accept my condolences bro
It’s coming home
So sorry for u loss Rip
Turkish, thought you were spot on about Jude around 16 minute mark. The senior players in the side need to rein him in just a touch.
Who would have that type of authority in the squad nowadays?
@@Rooler694 Stones mainly
Why are Arsenal fans trying to speak Saliba's exit into existence, its weird.
this fan base is efin weird and much more.
Small club mentality. They take pride in the fact Real Madrid might take one of their players.
To be fair I think it’s completely plausible. Obviously I don’t want that to happen but he’s not a local boy and we didn’t treat him great for a couple years. Real Madrid is the pinnacle and the biggest club in the world. It’ll be very difficult for him to turn down in years to come. But of course I hope he stays im just pessimistic.
It's social media that influences fans and toxicity
@@divyanshujha7314 Coming online and saying things that didnt happen just makes you look like the massive 🛎 🔚 you clearly are. Best of luck in your keyboard battles kiddo ✌️
As a football fan, not English, I remember World Cup in South Africa. The wibe in England was as usually in all tournaments: thousands of lions in a country, flags "its coming home" all over the streets, media, pundits telling "it's time to deliver". But then it all finished very quickly and badly...and streets became empty suddenlly. That's why I agree with James, that maybe Southgate got unified England fans, got them hopes to be again proud of their team on international level, hoping to really win Euros. I only witnessed South Africa campaign.
Communication is not only key on the field but off the field also, clearly Jordan needs to work on it with his GF because surely you must inform her youre doing a podcast 😂
Jordan loves name dropping, “I know Gareth, we get on well” probably asked him for an autograph outside the stadium 😂
Like AFTV hounding Wenger out, then wanted selfies with him when they meet him
Spend most of the pod trying to work out who Lee ACTUALLY means whenever he name drops someone. Never change Lee 😂🤣
37:05 Jordan, just give up man
The balance of this pod is outrageously perfect 👌🏿
I overall like Jude. I liked the it's always me celebration. But I agree with Lee, his attitude when he thought he was being subbed off was abit eh. As if he thought he was untouchable.
Lee Hodgson was in charge when we got knocked out by Iceland Euros 2016.
Iceland are no Italy or Spain or Croatia or France.
Rice play with the handbrake on, he might be having fear of making mistakes if he play a forward pass.
Arteta will unlock him this season so that he starts dictating the game. I think keeping Thomas Partey this season will be better for Rice to learn from.
Bellingham is superb player and justifiably confident in his abilities, hence not only going to Real Madrid, but see what he has done in his first season at the biggest, most pressurized club in the World!
But Jordan he has got a narkey side to him, I saw a clip yesterday, he's playing for Dortmund, there's break on and the midfielder gets the pass 1m short to Jude, he throws a strop, waving arms shouting at the player for the bad pass, then you can clearly see him saying the player was $**t!
I've never seen a player shout out to his team mate on the pitch, during a game, for the cameras to relay and the fans to hear, that he was $**t!
Also when he scored that overhead kick to rescue ENG, he says to the fans, "Who else!".
In other saying to his team mates, none of you could have done this.
Guarantee Watkins, Toney, Saka, Palmer could have done that techique.
Declan Rice was a DM, I agree with Turkish, dunno what the criticism was for. Creating chances is not his job. Just because Rodri does everything doesn't mean everyone should. Rice is one of the best at breaking up play, he is a destroyer type player. Going forward is not his purpose. Rodri is a rare type.
No way playing the race card loooooool
Id say Wilshere is the English player produced thats most like the Spanish type midfielders
The way he used to manipulate the ball, low centre of gravity, could dribble, short sharp passes. He for me more so than Scholes
Gotta do a pod on how much longer can are star players go without winning, I really don’t want to fall short in a title race again this season imagine how the players are gonna feel; Saliba especially but Saka also
Jordan try get a shortcut to turn off your camera quicker mate. U might as well invite everyone round
@01:17:58 Turkish asking "Jordan, did you see the thumbnail?"
Jordan: "Some one put it in the group, some one sent it to me".
Which translates to "I didn't see the whole thumbnail, but I did watch the highlights of the thumbnail".
I can understand lee judges frustration but we all know what a great job Southgate done for English football
Countless exciting options on the bench for the final and just the usual bluuurgh from Southgate. Real Madrid’s hottest property gave his best showing by screaming at Southgate to change it! Yes that was his best showing.
Jordan actually speaking the most facts for once! Fair play
Jude has to be like CR7 the media will hate you but you just have to deliver on the pitch (Simple 👍🏾)
I see the value of Jordan now. There needs to be someone contrarian in the group so that the podcast can go on for an hour +. He takes all the bullets only for the sake of the podcast. He doesn't actually believe anything he says.
1 30 am, Sean in Adelaide Australia, watching Robbie and the notification came up.. Sorry Boss....Wiped...Show means a lot .. Cheers..Up The Arsenal
Nice meeting you Sean
@@cider3608 cheers mate
Also with England this tournament it seemed as soon as we go a goal down we would always ramp it up and get a goal even against Spain and if there was another 10-15 mins left after their second I think we would have ramped up again and scored a second, I don’t understand why we could do that at 0.0 instead of boring football, it was a terrible tournament but the best team won, Yamal should have had 2 goals in that final so 2.1 was flattering
Lee talking absolute facts. Say it how it is!!!
I heard Jordan asking Declan Rice questions in the press conference before the final.
Well done. That's amazing!
Hey guys sorry for the late comment had watched this when it came out but I have an idea for you guys to do a 2023/2024 season review game by game before we start the next season. Like talk about it game by game and what was learned and what changed in the following games and etc. some games can be skimmed over but like the arsenal season review but from your eyes. Much love from Uganda. Jordan, Lee, James, Turkish. Big up. Love this podcast. Will comment again on the next episode. 😅
I am black and not a fan of Bellingham. He is arrogant and I couldnt stand the 'who else' comment. He is full of himself! Its not a nice trait.
Absolutely. I'm so tired of the race-bating and victimhood. Nobody ever had worse stick than Beckham.
Here’s a stat regarding English managers, since the start of the premier league there hasn’t been one English manager to lead their side to a title, Scottish is the closest, we are so depleted in top managers from here it’s hard to see us winning at international level but I hope I’m wrong 😑
I am afraid that we will have an horrendous transfer window and not get a single player that we want !
I hear what Jordans saying but I thought that about bellingham before that article came out
Fantastic insight and takes on Jude Bellingham by Jordan and James 👌🏾
Get that black word user out of aftv
I see why Jordan likes Southgate. Their ball knowledge is terrible. Jordan probably helped him with the tactics.
Am I the only one that wants to give Smith Rowe one more chance?
The perception -in seems to me- is that someone will now come in and get England 'over the line' to win a tournament.
These are/were salad days - I think it dissipates from here moving forward for England.
Got a feeling that we’ll see Timber over White a lot this season.
Klopp for England manager, rock n roll football with England's players would be dangerous.
Social media tells a different story with the Calafiori deal. I think it has been dragging for too long and it seems like we don't want to offer the payment structure that Bologna want. I have a feeling the deal might not happen.
Football is a historical game. To appreciate Southgate, you would have to been watching England since the 1970s.
Yes its historical. To appreciate Southgate you'd have to endure The Great Plague in order to understand the depravity.
@@FootballAndSuch I wouldn't go that far. England has always had good players, Keegan, Brooking, Hoddle, Barnes, Gascoigne, Shearer, Owen, Rooney, etc, but so have other teams. If you come from a generation that only watched live the last decade, it's understandable to a degree, but if you're complaining about coming second, considered when they failed to qualify for the 1974, and 78 World Cup finals. 1970 to 1982 was a really long time.
U can see when he plays Bellingham is like Bruno fernandes always bitching at his team mates
The FA picks the players to represent the national team. The new manager will be directed by them on which players should play.
Foden had a good 30min all tournament
Which was 29 mins more than Saka did
@@JackBowyer-rn1py no goals no assist you do the maths 😂🤣😂
On the Ben White situation I think the next England manager pulls him aside and clears the air, explains the plan and Benjamin is reintroduced. Agree with Turkish.
Hopefully not
Once a shithouse always a shithouse
I’m still yet to figure out this italian defender Jordan mentioned like two episodes ago.
Rest of the panel laughed at Lee for saying Saliba was sitting on his beach as if it was an outlandish comment. You can own private sections of beach, my friend's family owned some in Italy.
Well said Jordan & James on Bellingham situation 👏🏾👏🏾
Lee I had Spain 11/2 from the start easy money 💰
The problem for me is that fans and pundits sell themselves on the idea of a sportsmans credentials. When they're proven wrong they will throw said player under the bus. When the truth is they should be criciticed for having no semblance or rationality when accessing players actual abilities. Ill be honest i dont think Saka is exceptionally skilled or a great crosser or passer of the ball, but what he is...he has good mental strength, is fairly strong on the ball, can finish and makes good runs. He is what he is, no more no less. Thats my point...take players as they are not how you percieve them. Rice is what he is, he's an exceptional ball wining 6 if you want a ball winner. He's no more than that though. This idea hes an 8 is highly questionable for me. Where his ability to score or particularly good passing range to create if you're not a goak scorer? It doesn't exist with Rice. He can advance foward but he always goes square. Im not slating him because i rate him. He just is what he is though.
Look at man city and Liverpool, it’s hard for Real Madrid to get the biggest players because of the cost of these players which are just too high! As long as we are competing these players are here to stay!
Watching England play U shape football was hard, but Southgate appears to be a good guy...
The way Turkish defends and speaks on Ben White you’d think he’s Arda Guler 😂
Lee said, “Saliba is best defender in Europe “ hahahaha “ not even 10th …
What’s the biggest trophy with Saliba?? Community sheild??
Ruto must go
Also, this next 6 weeks are so pivotal because of our opening fixtures are very difficult games
Wolves at home is a difficult game?
@@JackBowyer-rn1py hey so when there’s an ‘s’ at the end of a word that means it’s plural. Plural means more than 1. We have 3 away games against teams in the top 5 for last season, hope this helps
@@joshhenry2389 I didn't ask for an English lesson. I asked is Wolves at home a difficult game?
FYI, FA rules state every club has to play every other club twice in an EPL season
Hope this helps...
If anything arteta will leave not so much the players if we dont win.
Let’s keep a close eye on Rice this year, I’m not convinced by his effectiveness
Rodri is criminally underrated
Over hyped dogshit
What? Be quiet man 😂
Sorry Jordan, individually, based on talent and club form, we do have the best squad. Maybe it doesn't work as a team but as talent we definitely do. Which is why the performance are so disappointing
The best part of England was the defence, why do they need Maguire Jordan?
Rice done his job. Its just the players infront of him was negative. No movement which means. He had no options to go forward. U cant blame him solely for the teams mistakes. English mentality stops us from doing possesion based. Got the technique. But not the mentality
Corlys Velaryon out here waffling about Southgate
Turkish’s take on the short break is ridiculous. People are more than bodies, they have to get into the right mindset and they need to physically recover. Do you know how many athletes we see in hospital with crazy injuries from lack of rest?
Ben White would have helped if they didn’t have Trent!! The best best talent in England
Southgate should have changed his back room staff after the first euro final loss, for a more attacking coaches. Alex Ferguson changed his back room staff to freshen things up and move forward with new ideas and styles. So for me I blame him for not changing things after they went wrong against Italy ! You don’t need back room staff that just tell you your doing the right things, when obviously your not ! You don’t want yes men you want people to show you a better way to develop a better style of play !
Turkish saying we have to win is more him than the club or the majority of the fanbase imo. Yes I want us to lift trophies but we are challenging again, which is more than we've done for 12 years. Stop being greedy my G lol
When people say "boring" football, they mean not creativity and no imagination. Southgate doesn't have that, it's not his fault, he just hasn't got the tools to play modern, progressive, football. Either in possession or on the counter attack.
When you take it all into consideration, what he started with when he took over to what he's walking away from, he's definitely left things in a better state than he inherited.
Jordan u made great points but …… why bring race into it ??? That’s poor ……
Quick question, where is caliofiori? arsenal will always be arsenal
Why does jordan always bring up race ? Bellingham is mixed race not just black. Look at his parents. I would say Kane has had the most criticism. Jordan needs to lose the chip on his shoulder.
Once again, we can trust Lee to call it out and speak straight!
Kneelgate's tactics threw away that Euro20 final v Italy.
Then brings on 2 young players to take PENS, who didn't even kick the ball yet.
Fair play to Saka for not letting that whole experience get to him and his game.
Get lost Jordan about Kneelgate is a leader, just because you've met him and he's a nice guy, so what!
After the 1st dreadful Euro game, he pines for his 'Kalvin-Comfy' blanket, that's some leader you got there, or you've rewritten the definition of that very word.
You sound like a member of the FA manager appointing commitee.
What trophy did his touch-feely-kneely media PR get the team/country?
And that's despite having 3 back2back spookey-Flukey draws and a home final, with a packed roaring Wembley.
If he was this leader you say, why was a clearly unfit, grossly underperforming Kane played in every game?
Looks like Kane was the leader, as no of the Elite managers would've put up with that version of Kane, especially with Watkins & Toney getting splinters on the bench.
Venables is the last ENG manager that took the team to the max, gallantly & narrowly loosing to PENs to a great German team, who won it.
28 flipping years ago! Then 34yrs back to Robson.
WTF is this thumbnail and how did i miss it?
THE REASON PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH EXCITING STYLE OF PLAY FOR ENGLAND IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXCITING PLAYERS AND WE SEE THAT IN THERE CLUB TEAMS! Duuuuuuuhhh! Jordan!
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To continue selling the project you have to have results(trophies) otherwise players will eventually stop believing and check out.Liverpool won the league and the Champions league and that proved to players that Liverpool was the place to be.
England hve good quality players they know hw to win international frindelies , tournaments ,but their problem is to get over the line like my arsenal that is big similarities to overcome both of them
YOU GUYS FIRE A MANAGER WHO TOOK YOU TO TWO FINAL THE PLAYERS DID NOT PLAY WELL
Talking about Englands team selection is pointless. They got to the final and was managed poorly. Why take another lb Shaw was fit for the final. Why take maguire? Our defense was fine. The only issue was how he managed the squad he had at his disposal
Gareth Southgate managed to take the best midfielder in the PL and turn him into a below average player
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Not playing with good team in the group or even the knock out round worked against Southgate
May who ever thinks or have doubts or slagged off rice are the idots this kid is world class the stats prove it.. End off story
It’s just nice to be the first comment 👌, love the pod guys
ESR was never given a chance on his return…Playing 10 mins here and there is no good….
Jordan just likes to arggue. We didnt have a betyersquadback when...... Everyone, U included, has said this is thebest SQUAD ever. The 1st 11 maybe..... this guy says anything to be different......
Around the 31 minute mark you guys are so on. I grew up in Jam. supporting German football from age 8 and always argued with the English supporters that England had one world class mid who gets into any team in all its years. Scholes. Jamaica which has the England DNA has the same issues today. A dearth of Midfielders who are as strong defensively and offensively. Yet you hear and see the call for and attempts to play 4:3:3
With what?!!!
Southgate set up his team to force Spain back in the finals. I've always found that thinking faulty - to play offense as defense against an ultra attacking team. It never works. Its fire against fire but the greater fire will always win. Four mids ( 3 attacking profile) and your 3 CBs are 1:1 90% of the time. That's laughable. That's being in a worse position than starting straight up honest (4 back). I became an England fan after WC 2014. The squads have been used poorly, without trust of everyone. These modern English players are playing in the top clubs in the world. Let any of them go play. England will win. Need a style of play, needs legitimate midfield presence/control. You have those players to the wazoo in the academies now, in youth level. Find the coach.
Sell players and bring me Ivan Toney to the Emirates, bruv
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Walker made team of the tournament. How
Exactly- both goals in the final came from the right side… how did he let coocoorella get an assist??
@37:01 LOOOL again
What’s happing with Nico Williams
Going to barca
@@ashdgreat1977not neccesarily
Jordan bragging bout only one on the pod going to the finals. He still only caught the highlights.