Rockwood Geo-Pro and Flagstaff E-Pro Factory Tour Part 2 | My Reaction 👍or 👎
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- In this follow up to our Rockwood Geo-Pro and Flagstaff E-Pro factory tour, I share my reaction to everything we took in. I also wanted to have a look at a completed trailer at a dealer. We're currently in South Florida, so we inspected a Geo-Pro G19QB at Tropical RV Sales in Fort Pierce, Florida. They were very nice people and allowed us to film the G19QB. If you are in the South Florida area, look them up! They sell a lot of Geo-Pro's and have great reviews!
Contact Jim at:
sales@tropicalrvsales.com
or
772-464-0753. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
So if the Geo Pro and E Pro are the same trailers, is Rockwood and Flagstaff the same companies under Forest River like Ford and Mercury cars are the same cars but just a slightly different cosmetic trims. Both under the Ford Motor Company?
👉 Correction: Viewer Eric Edmondson informed me the TPMS monitor comes with EVERYTHING you need including the in-vehicle monitor. Thanks Eric! 👈
In this follow up to our Rockwood Geo-Pro and Flagstaff E-Pro factory tour, I share my reaction to everything we took in. I also wanted to have a look at a completed trailer at a dealer. We're currently in South Florida, so we inspected a Geo-Pro G19QB at Tropical RV Sales in Fort Pierce, Florida. They were very nice people and allowed us to film the G19QB. If you are in the South Florida area, look them up! They sell a lot of Geo-Pro's and have great reviews!
Check out Tropical RV Sales
www.tropicalrvsales.com/
Contact Jim at:
sales@tropicalrvsales.com
or
772-464-0753.
Get more info on the Rockwood Geo-Pro
forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/rockwood-geo-pro
Or, find a dealer
forestriverinc.com/rvs/dealer-locator/rockwood-geo-pro
Get more info on the Flagstaff E-Pro
forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/flagstaff-e-pro
Or, find a dealer
forestriverinc.com/rvs/dealer-locator/flagstaff-e-pro
If you would like to schedule your own factory tour, please contact Anthony Yoder at:
AMYoder@forestriverinc.com
(574) 642-8920
forestriverinc.com/rvs/contact-us/rockwood-geo-pro
Have any questions? 👇Drop me a comment!👇 I try to answer each one.
We purchased the G12RK. Love the little trailer with the full outside kitchen. Had it for 3 yrs now with no problems. 13500btu ac on top really cools you down fast
Lee Warner 👋 thanks for watching & commenting. Glad you love your Geo!!
Have really enjoyed your videos on the Geo-Pro factory tour and your thoughts on the G19QB. We just purchased the Goo-Pro G19FBS and absolutely love it. The G19FBS has a slideout with a couch. The slideout really expands the living area so you don't feel cramped. During the walk-through we had 5 people inside and it never felt 'crowded'.
I appreciate your comments on the many features. All things that are hard to appreciate until you see for yourself. The one thing I wanted to add is that the trailer included the remote tire pressure monitor display for the towing vehicle, so it's ready to go right off the lot. The other thing I really like is that the Geo-Pro comes pre-wired for the Furiion backup camera system. The camera mount is already on the trailer waiting for the camera, pre-wired for plug and play installation. I have one on order and will update after the install.
Eric Edmondson hello 👋! I’m glad you live your G19FBS!
Thanks for your correction on the TPMS monitor. This is good to know and I will post the info.
🧡Thanks for watching & commenting Eric!💙
Eric, the 19FBS is what I'm looking at currently. Now that you're 7+/- month into it. Are you liking it still? Anything I need to know?
Your video convinced my wife and I to purchase our 1st rv.! We went to Tropical Rv and purchased it. We have to wait for about 8 weeks for delivery due to the rush on these units but well wrth the wait. Thank you and keep on making the videos. Love them!
Paul Terrazas - hello!! 👋
Congratulations on your purchase! What model did you buy? We bought a Geo Pro 20BHS in January and moved into it in late June. We got about 6,000 miles on it so far and love it!
I’m going to restart videos soon and am editing our next one right now. Thanks for watching & commenting! Check in again after you take delivery of your new RV!
Now I want an 19fd. Thanks for the tour.
I think that murphy bed is awesome, no need in a slide out with this, as the sofa is under the murphy bed and sets up in a flash once bed is retracted. Cool! Well laid out trailer for sure.
Add me to that list.
What do you need for the hitch setup? Such as weight distribution, sway bars, or additional width mirrors? I am thinking of using a Toyota 4Runner.
That WiFi Ranger is a huge selling point for me. I work with a small surveying and engineering firm that allows me to work remotely. I'm a very senior civil engineer and land surveyor, so it's a full/part time gig and travel would just sweeten the mix! Thanks!
Bill Sprague you’re welcome!
Great video! My wife and I looked at a used 2019 Epro 19FBS yesterday and I came away thoroughly impressed. I will start with my negatives, which are few. The kitchen sink is tiny. There was room to make it bigger, but I guess you would give up counter space. I also thought 413 pound tongue weight was pretty high. Some of my favorite things were the Azdel construction with all aluminum framing. The arched roof is awesome, water wont sit on the roof, the number one RV enemy. Black tank flush and tpms standard? Battery cut out standard? Wow. A dry bath in this size? Power tongue jack and two lp’s with a bike rack mount is unbelievable and this price and size rv. A ladder was something I would have to add on to most I’ve looked at. Our Gulfstream Visa had staples popping out everywhere on the interior walls. I think I found a great alternative to the Intech Sol and Little Guy Max I have been drooling over, but was choking over the pricing.
Mike StClair 👋 hello! Thanks for your thoughtful comment! While looking at a 16BH the other day, my wife and I found another personal negative. It had the small fridge with the freezer in the top part of the fridge compartment. At around a square foot, the freezer is too small for us. We need the medium fridge with the separate freezer door. I think the medium fridges are on the 19s.
You mentioned staples popping out... the only thing I have heard so far about in service issues are loosening nuts on the trailer frame. They are the ones which bolt the flooring to the frame and you can see them being installed on my factory tour vid. The nuts are working loose and even falling off. The problem is solved by installing self locking nylock nuts. I’ll be looking for this change to be made at the factory soon.
🧡Thanks for watching & commenting!💙
About the nuts are you adding to the exposed thread or replacing if so are the bolts accessible to prevent spinning
I see you mentioned in your comments that the TPMS does come with a vehicle display. Also, dealers may not install the water filter. Mine didn’t and I have seen where others have said the same thing. The filter comes in a bag with extra electrical cables for a 2nd battery, water filter housing wrench and a nice Forest River spatula. I have a 2020 19BH and really like it so far.
Ricochet_JP thanks for the extra info!
Thanks for the tour. It's great to get a look behind the scenes.
@Kristian Chester you are quite welcome! Are you ready to place your order for a sweet Rockwood or Flagstaff?😁
Thank You
You’re welcome @David Murray! Glad it was helpful!
Subscribed. You're a great guy. Best wishes. 👍💯
Thanks @Agustin Morales Rodriguez!
I watched THE JOHNNY O SHOW on you tube his experience with the GEO PRO THANK GOD I DID..I ordered the Winnebago
Do the torflex axles have ez grease zeros on the hubs?
Thanks Ben & Michelle 👍👌🙂
On 2021 e pro the max air fan is extra option, the water filter is an option as well
This is a change which I’m hearing about for the first time. Was this true on all r pro floor plan models?
Thanks for the heads up on this @john os!
We've been video shopping / researching for months now, looking at just about every RV trailer this size, and keep coming back to the Geo Pro / E Pro (same unit, different trims) again and again for size, weight, construction, features, quality, etc. We learned the hard way about water leaks, sealant and the result on a sticks and staples wrapped in a cola can RV construction failures. We may wind up driving from GA to OH to get the best price (RVwholesalers), but we'll see as the end of year sales discounts hit the market.
Silas Longshot that’s great! Please check in again when you’ve made your purchase!
We’re currently preparing to buy a 20bhs. We hope to be have it around the first of the year.
@@CrowdFreeRV One other thing on the Azdel wall construction, is that material on BOTH sides of the wall skin or just the exterior wall? I haven't seen a vid that details exactly which material is on both sides, even the vids of the walls being layered together before the go into the vacuum press.
@@silaslongshot941 Watched a factory tour recently and they do laminated both sides of the aluminum frame. . . no energy bleeds.
@@CrowdFreeRV We took delivery of our 2021.5 Geo Pro 19FD mid Feb, have been on one 'shakedown cruse' to a state park. All worked well. Heading to the coast for next trip.
@@silaslongshot941 that’s great!! Hope all is going well & you have many good adventures to come!
We’re still parked for a few more weeks & working on the website. We’re getting our travel kicked of here in about 3 weeks!
Check out the website & tell me what you think! It’s about 95% complete.
crowdfreerv.com/
“Size does matter” 😍
Shelle Belle “That’s what she said” 😋😂
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I really enjoyed the factory tour video. My wife and I just purchased the updated 2020 G19FBS and we are loving it. We have only had it out once (boondocking on forrest service roads). We can get to places most other campers cannot.
OpIndependence congrats!! Enjoy your GeoPro! 🧡Thanks for watching & commenting💙
I have been looking a long time. Its between this one and winnebago.
Ha! Headed there tomorrow to take a look at a the 15TB :)
Sonya Hoffman that’s great! If you see Jim tell him I said hello 😃
You’re going to love the Geo Pro. Please let us know if you buy one!
@@CrowdFreeRV Will do!
We purchase a 2019 Epro 19fd this summer and we love it. It's our first trailer and agreed many nice features, contruction techniques and the lighter color scheem are what sold us. Just a caution that build quality appears good on the surface, assembly quality in our experience has been spotty. For example, on our trip home from the dealer the two drawers fell appart because the rails were missing most of their screws. During the same trip one of the dinette seats broke loose from the floor, damaged the wall an broke one of the aluminium braces under the seat. A month later a screw finaly ate through the 120 cuircuit shorting it out and because the wires were run in the floor we had to cut the wire and run another one under the floor. I would still buy another one but would definetly spend more time on the inspecttion before signing any paperwork.
Steven Bushey thanks for sharing your experience! Some manufacturers and dealers have come a long way to improving build quality and initial delivered quality. But, as you have experienced, more improvement needs to be done. I appreciate shedding light on manufacturing processes, both good and bad. The more knowledgeable customers are the more we can reject the junk and reward those who are raising the bar for the better. 🧡Thanks for watching & commenting!💙
My 2019 EPro 19FD did the EXACT same thing.
While watching FreeBirds factory tour, the thing that had me concerned was the pace of the production line. I just kept thinking that, as fast as the workers were going, it was inevitable that mistakes and misses would happen. It's just not humanly possible to sustain the production pace I saw in that factory, and deliver consistent quality over an entire work shift. I applaud Forest River for their innovation and great standard features on these trailers, but real world experience, as witnessed by Steven Bushey and TPD, is the reality check that all is not perfection at Forest River.
I've done a ton of research and it seems that dealing with these kinds of things is just a fact of life with an RV, no matter which brand you buy.
Spent a busy first year with my 2020 19fd,after 5 trips only problem was with the water saver in tub screwing up pressure in kitchen sink,they replaced it once,no change,so they removed it,works fine now.Really wish they put Goodyear tires on it, like Jayco does now.
We live in Stuart. We just bought a 2020 Geo Pro 19FD.
Your welcome to see it, just let me know.
Congrats Michael!
I've towed sailboats with galvanized leaf spring double axle trailers and found it to be super smooth. One of my sailboats displacement was 5500 lbs. (close to 7500lb. with trailer) and you would forget you were towing. I'm not sure about longevity for the camper and the trailer structure with the Dexter Torflex (which has been around for several years) They tend to shake the hell out of whats riding above it...and I wouldn't have faith in a single torsion axle...at least have a double axle...what weight is riding on that Torflex?..3200lb? I've seen them fail with less weight. Those cords are not dependable. That camper must be shaking apart.
No slide topper option which is disappointing and will likely keep me from getting one with a slideout.
Does anyone have one that could tell me how they feel about the micro fridge? To me that might be the deal breaker. I have a pop up and just use a ice chest and upgrading to something with a fridge and freezer is something I dream about... that micro fridge stresses me out
taylor behle 👋 hello! The fridge in our 20BHS is not the micro size, but we do like it. Domestic makes a good product. I have a recommendation to help you get an answer. Look for Geo pro groups on Facebook & Instagram. In those groups start asking people your question. Someone there will have the fridge size you are interested in an be able to answer from experience. Thanks for watching & the question!!
I would like to point out the TV is 12 volt/110
Only thing I'd like to see is slam latches on the exterior cargo doors. (I hate the thumb latches) Under mount kitchen sink and stainless under mount bathroom sink.
In your Rockwood Geo-Pro and Flagstaff factory tour do you feel there should be a sold and heavier weight floor decking installed. If I understood correctly was wondering 1/2 OSB decking on 16 inch centers was enought??
Hello 👋 Jerry!
Yes, from both the factory tour and my experience owning & using our Geo Pro 20BHS, I feel the floor structure is solid enough. With that being said though, I wish they would go with a different material for additional water resistance.
New wood replacement materials are beginning to be used in floor decking. Keystone RV has begun using a material called HyperDeck, which is stronger, lighter and more water resistant than wood material. I wish Rockwood would look at a material like that for their floor decking.
For myself though, I feel the current Geo Pro deck is good. The main factor is to keep your rig leak free.
Hope this helps Jerry!
Thanks for watching & the question!
@@CrowdFreeRV I would agree. My wife and I are thinking about purchasing a RV and Geo-Pro 19FD gets our attention. Living in South Texas is a little far for a factory tour so your visit was helpful. I watch you video on the factory tour and overall just the floor decking was the only concern . Thanks for responding. Jerry
@@jerrymoore8024 did you see my latest vid? czcams.com/video/g0dNRyqKXjo/video.html
Isn't the solar on the 2021 now 190 watts?
That's correct @Dan Unger!
I tell people that this is not a downsize/step down from a house, this is a step up from a tent.
Where’s the link to part 1 ?
Conny Bjaaland czcams.com/video/HbAZT_-8FX4/video.html
Can you show is how to maintain our seals. What to look for as the tour guide told us to inspect. Thanks.
CR that’s a great idea & I’ll put that on the list for a future episode. We’re working on buying our Geo Pro soon. Thanks for watching & commenting!
FreeBirds I just this weekend picked up my geo pro. First night in the rig at pismo beach tonight.
CR that is AWESOME!! Congrats! What model did you get?
CR, Congrats on your purchase, so exciting! Love camping on the beach.
FreeBirds I got the 19BH. It’s such a cool unit. Nice options for taking granddaughter camping with the bunks.
Azdel in sidewalls ??
Greg Gonzalez 👋 hello! Azdel is a sidewall material guaranteed not to delaminates. You can learn about it here - www.azdelonboard.com/
Not the cheapest but well built. Had Murphy bed model for a year with No problems. However my generic advice is almost all warranties are pretty much useless . Dealer blames Factory- Factory blames individual component suppliers . Plan on doing lots of preventive maintenance and keep unit out of repair facility as much as you can!🤔 Happy Camping and God Bless🌈
Isn't a WiFi ranger obsolete tech. We all have WiFi hotspots on modern smartphones
Can you upgrade to a 1000W solar?
Sergeant Danelarton that is a great question! I recently bought a 2020 Geo Pro 20BHS. Upgrading the solar is on the to do list. Stay tuned....
@@CrowdFreeRV I am undecided whether to get this trailer or the winnebago 2108fbs
Sergeant Danelarton wish I could weigh in on this. The only thing I know about the Winnebago is the brand is one of the oldest and most admired. I would love it if you would check back in when you decide which one to buy. I’ll have a look at that Winnebago.
Beyond that, I feel we are in a great era in the RV industry. The industry isn’t perfect but there are a lot of new innovations happening which are solving long standing problems. I wish you all the best with your decision. Thanks for watching & commenting!
Only single axle trailers to buy better have the 4500 axle
Again, they don't ALL come with a fantastic fan as standard equipment. My 2019 Geo Pro 16th does NOT have a fantastic fan, nor does it have a black tank flush system.
I'm an E-Pro 19bh owner for 4 years and I disagree a little bit. They still use wood in their construction. This industry wide needs to change. There are better and cheaper materials that can be used that don't rot.... at all.
"Factory" tour??
Factory tour? Yes! Look for Rockwood Geo Pro travel trailer (we go behind the curtain) video.
I find the beginning of this video very rude! Talk to your wife with respect.